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Re: C-Drive Oil drain - Alternative
Porter McRoberts
Re milky oil: also for us just now, the oil seemed very slightly milky after an oil change in NZ about 50 hours ago. Now after about another 10 hours all seems fine. I also would love an explanation of the circulatory system!
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Porter Porter McRoberts S/V IBIS A54-152 WhatsApp:+1 754 265 2206Www.fouribis.net
On Oct 17, 2020, at 9:12 AM, Rudolf Waldispuehl <Rudolf@...> wrote:
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Re: C-Drive Oil drain - Alternative
Thanks Craig, your message is relaxing me. ;-) Von: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of "Craig Briggs via groups.io" <sangaris@...> Antworten an: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> Datum: Donnerstag, 15. Oktober 2020 um 19:22 An: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> Betreff: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] C-Drive Oil drain - Alternative I commented on this in post #47906, which you might want to read. I suggested that 2-3 months with emulsified water-oil will not cause a problem and show pictures of my pristine drive shaft after 9 months of a "milk" bath. I doubt that suction on one of the hoses will be effective as both are at the top of the upper unit and you'll just suck air once the oil level drops a bit. Craig, -- SN68 Sangaris, Tropic Isle Harbor, FL
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Re: C-Drive Oil drain - Alternative
HI Daniel and Lori Thanks for sharing your experience and the explanation Best regards Ruedi & Sabina, sv WASABI A54#55 Von: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Dan Carlson <carlsdan61@...> Antworten an: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> Datum: Freitag, 16. Oktober 2020 um 00:05 An: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> Betreff: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] C-Drive Oil drain - Alternative Hello Ruedi, I did have some slight milky color just after changing my seals a previous time. I don't think they seated properly right away. First I drained and cleaned our the reservoir well. Then filled it with clean oil. Then I sucked about a liter of the bad oil that comes off of the small "return" line and attaches to the top of the reservoir. I did this twice and that removed some of the milky oil (can't be much as there are 8+ liters in the system). I can tell you that the water did settle out of what I removed after a few days. I repeated this twice when the drive was heated up and the oil was mixed up. Then after that it remained clear. I was using the boat regularly during the next 6 months living aboard in the Caribbean. At the end of the season when I pulled the boat and drained the c-drive only the first liter or so out of the bottom of the drive appeared to have some residual water. The seals appeared to be in perfect condition. I think in my case I only had a small initial contamination and once the seals seated well then there was no subsequent leaking. I wish someone could provide a clear explanation of how the oil circulates? I was able to watch as the drive heated up with use that there was milky oil coming in the return line at the top of the reservoir. There is also a filter screen in the middle of the reservoir that appears to trap some of the water that settles out. For something so important and so discussed I've not seen a good explanation of that. Thanks and regards, Daniel and Lori Carlson on sv BeBe, SM #387
On Thu, Oct 15, 2020, 12:11 PM Rudolf Waldispuehl <Rudolf@...> wrote:
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Re: Registering an SM in Canada
Randall Walker
Hello Jeff, I looked into buying Moon dog an SM in Pennsylvania. When they told me how much the tax and duty with the need for the Government survey, I found it easier to just go to France and buy an Amel with a french flag. So to save on the import duties as Canada has a free trade agreement with Europe. You can buy a boat from the country of the manufacturer duty-free. You then pay only the local tax in Canada. Alberta has no provincial sales tax so there is only the GST to pay, in all other provinces you pay HST. All this said you save yourself a load of money. (but yes the survey still has to be done) In the end, I went to Spain and purchased my boat from a Brit. The vat was paid already, So I left the registry British paid 250 pounds for the 5-year registry, just a name change on the registry. Done with no pain or tax. And fly the red ensign. This is the cheapest way to do it. My plans were to sail in sunny equatorial waters, so I will not enter Canadian waters to subject to any import fees. Good luck, Randall A54#56 Gibraltar
On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 7:53 PM Jeff Williams <jeff99williams@...> wrote: Hi All,
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Re: Galley fridge intermittently cooling
Sv Garulfo
Hi all, To give an update: An refrigeration engineer friend came to have a look and found the system low on refrigerant, but couldn’t find a leak. The usual culprit (the seals in the quick fittings) were not at fault. We opted to top it up and see the evolution. 2 weeks later, it’s still good. Keeping an eye on it. I also found the fan that cools the heat sink on the compressor to be dead and replaced it. Pic attached in case you want to get spares. It’s a 24V unit but the system runs it at 12V. It’s pretty standard and costs a few dollars on Amazon. Thanks Thomas GARULFO A54-122 Papeete, Tahiti
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 at 19:37, Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...> wrote:
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Re: Offshore Health Insurance
Kent,
I think you mentioned in the past you use Growie Insurance and their Jack-line policy. Check with them for offshore medical plans. If I recall correctly they represent IMG.
There are many
options available for international healthcare. We tend to shop outside of the
USA for international insurance since the policies are much easier to understand
and cost a lot less. Our international policy is more for catastrophic stuff
and has a high deductable. We pay out of pocket for most healthcare. We have
found outside of the USA, good affordable healthcare is readily available in
most countries and is about 1/5th the price of care in the USA. The
price for our $2M policy is about $1800 per year for both of us. The deductable
is US$5,000 each.
I think I deserve a cookie for restraining myself from going on a rant about the state of the USA healthcare system – {smile}
With best regards,
Mark
Skipper Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275 Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia www.creampuff.us
From:
main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On
Behalf Of karkauai via groups.io
Hi all,
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Re: VP TMD 22 muffler
Karen Smith
Hello Paul!
My suggestion to you on this topic would be, "It depends." It seems like that is always the answer to a sailing question, but let me expand a bit. The Amel metal muffler does have a finite life, although ours is still going strong at 25 years, and pushing 9000 engine hours. I have never heard of one failing catastrophically, but rather they seem to develop slow leaks that grow slowly, giving you the luxury of selecting the time for replacement. If you were heading off to the remote islands in the South Pacific, this might be a good time for a little proactive replacement since getting an alternative would be expensive and difficult. On the other hand, if you are coastal cruising in Europe, I would suggest waiting, since a replacement is relatively inexpensive and fast and easy to source. Bill Kinney SM#160 Harmonie Annapolis, MD, USA http://fetchinketch.net
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Re: Registering an SM in Canada
Hi Jeff,
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in Austria is the same issue for registration. I send the drawing, every Amel have it in its papers to a nautical engineer and he did this for me. So the tax can calculate by the government. It was a small amount. Best Arnold Zephyr SM 203 Am 16.10.2020 um 22:40 schrieb amelforme <jfpottercys@...>: Hello Jeff as you have probably come to understand, the Canadian tonnage is a nearly but not exactly the same thing as the UK tonnage. It is based on ancient and arcane measurements that support the formulation of a "tonnage" that measures the volumetrics of the interior. It was used long ago to calculate how much "stuff" a commercial vessel could carry and hence, how much tax could be applied by the government. It has nothing to do with weight or displacement. I was told not too long ago, but don't have this on any authority, that you can get Transport Canada to give you the forms to fill out by any accredited marine surveyor. Again, I was told this worked by someone who should know but I was not part of the process. Also, TransCan used to have a list of world wide surveyors that were approved for this particular survey but that was at least a decade ago and maybe longer. Maybe worth digging a bit deeper? Good luck with it. JOEL F. POTTER CRUISING YACHT SPECIALIST LLC THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY Office 954-462-5869
On Oct 16, 2020, at 3:09 PM, Jeff Williams <jeff99williams@...> wrote:
-- Arnold SY Zephyr SM203
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Re: Registering an SM in Canada
amelforme
Hello Jeff as you have probably come to understand, the Canadian tonnage is a nearly but not exactly the same thing as the UK tonnage. It is based on ancient and arcane measurements that support the formulation of a "tonnage" that measures the volumetrics of the interior. It was used long ago to calculate how much "stuff" a commercial vessel could carry and hence, how much tax could be applied by the government.
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It has nothing to do with weight or displacement. I was told not too long ago, but don't have this on any authority, that you can get Transport Canada to give you the forms to fill out by any accredited marine surveyor. Again, I was told this worked by someone who should know but I was not part of the process. Also, TransCan used to have a list of world wide surveyors that were approved for this particular survey but that was at least a decade ago and maybe longer. Maybe worth digging a bit deeper? Good luck with it. JOEL F. POTTER CRUISING YACHT SPECIALIST LLC THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY Office 954-462-5869
On Oct 16, 2020, at 3:09 PM, Jeff Williams <jeff99williams@...> wrote:
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Re: Registering an SM in Canada
Since 2018 incident where a Dutch ICP registered GERMAN vessel illegally entered MALTESE waters with 234 migrants the Dutch government swiftly issued a law that Dutch ICP Registry is no good and is NOT allowed to fly the Dutch flag; and how do I know ??? However, The Dutch KADASTER registry is perfect & 100% legal and recognized worldwide but means the KADASTER officers have to visit the boat in person. Difficult now with COVID-19 (especially now THE NETHERLANDS as well as BELGIUM are the hotbeds of CORONA – EU code RED ☹) and expensive.
Working on a solution for AMELIT I got a couple of weeks ago this Email – it seems that Italy as well as PORTUGAL are really creating problems on the EU ICP since 2019 and clamping down.
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Several disturbing signals have reached us concerning the Italian acceptance of the EU ICP Light Registration.
Since last week it seems that the Italian nautical authorities no longer accept the EU ICP Light Registration.
In some cases this has resulted in the fact that the yacht was detained and only could leave the marina once the owner switched from registration type.
This because of the fact that the EU ICP Light Registration is a ownerships registration and not a flag (Title) registration. The Italians since this week only accept flag certificates.
In the case you sail in Italy or plan to sail in Italy we strongly advise you to check what kind of registration you have and consider to update it to a (Title) flag registration.
At this moment the most popular registration for yacht owners who sail in Italy is the Polish EU Flag registration and which includes a provisional registration which will be released in just a few days after the registration request.
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Best Regards Teun
A54 2009 #128 October 16, 2020 13:30:03
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Germain Jean-Pierre via groups.io
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2020 12:33 To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Registering an SM in Canada
Hi Jeff,
Hmmm. Have you thought of a Dutch or Belgian registry?
Resale might be simpler....
Good luck
Jean-Pierre Germain
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Re: Registering an SM in Canada
Germain Jean-Pierre
Hi Jeff,
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Hmmm. Have you thought of a Dutch or Belgian registry? Resale might be simpler.... Good luck Jean-Pierre Germain
On 17/10/2020, at 8:09 AM, Jeff Williams <jeff99williams@...> wrote:
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Re: Registering an SM in Canada
Jeff Williams
Hi Jean-Pierre, It is a Canadian Transport Canada thing. Need a Canadian registered surveyor to complete a tonnage certificate form if the boat is over 15m to register the boat in Canada. I used Olivier for my survey and he was excellent. Thanks, Jeff
On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 2:57 PM Germain Jean-Pierre <jp.germain45@...> wrote:
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Re: Registering an SM in Canada
Germain Jean-Pierre
Hello Jeff,
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I am Canadian as well and my reg is UK. Why do you need CDN surveyor for tonnage? I used the renowned surveyor named Olivier Beauté, ex director of after sales at Amel. He is completely qualified to tell you the tonnage... they are all identical!! Good luck Jean-Pierre Germain, Eleuthera, SM007, Opua, NZ
On 17/10/2020, at 6:53 AM, Jeff Williams <jeff99williams@...> wrote:
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Re: Toilet Seawater Valves
Hi Ian,
My forward intake valve handle corroded such that I couldn't turn it and broke off the valve stem trying. The corrosion was from sea water accumulating from an inconspicuous leak in the attached small manifold that branches to the anchor wash which had a pin-hole from corrosion, although it was nicely fabricated by Amel of copper tube. I fabricated a new manifold (actually just a Pex "T" and some nipples) and replaced the valve - easy fix. Also had one of the head outflow valves seriously freeze up but was able to disassemble the valve in place and clean it up. -- Cheers, Craig - SN68 Sangaris, Tropic Isle Harbor, FL
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Re: Waterproofing the mast and wires for the electric motors
Karen Smith
Mike,
There is no real reason to seal them. They should have a drip leg so most of the water runs off outside the mast, but any water than does follow the wire into the mast runs down and accumulates in a purpose-designed box under the mast in the head, and then drips on the floor of the head, and out the shower drain. There is a similar arrangement under the mizzen mast, but that box drains into the engine room. At least that's the setup on our boat, SM#160. This system of managing water that gets into the mast is much better than assuming you can completely eliminate any water intrusion into the wire chase in the mast, which is practically impossible. The wires should all have a low point drip loop in the drain box, and you should check the outlet of the drain box periodically to be sure it is not plugged up. If it overflows, it soaks the bulkhead, and you really, really, REALLY don't want a water damaged bulkhead. Somehow seeds eaten by birds end up there, and the pits of some palm fruits and wild cherries are the perfect size to plug the drain! Bill Kinney S/V Harmonie SM#160 Annapolis, MD
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Registering an SM in Canada
Jeff Williams
Hi All,
In the process of buying SM#379 Spruzzo (thinking of keeping the name). Boat is currently in Sicily and plan on cruising the Med for the next few years. I'm going to register the boat in Canada....has anyone used a Canadian surveyor to get a Canadian Tonnage Certificate for their SM 2000? If so can you give me the name of the surveyor? Thanks! Jeff Williams
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Re: Offshore Health Insurance
Thomas Peacock
Boy, Kent, you’ve opened up a can of worms, that fortunately non-Americans may not have to deal with.
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I don’t know if you have “traditional” Medicare, or the other privately administered plans. I’m not sure how “traditional” Medicare handles overseas illnesses. However, as Craig pointed out, if you have Part C (so-called Medicare Advantage), privately administered, overseas illnesses are generally paid for. All plans differ. My plan, Aetna Silver PPO, has a $7,550 out of pocket maximum for the year. So, if I were to get ill or injured overseas, I would have to pay the bill. Since it is “out of network”, it is likely that I would be responsible for the first $7,550. In addition, I would have to pay the hospital and doctors myself for the whole bill. However, Aetna would reimburse me for any expenses over the $7,550. When I crunched the numbers last year, it did not seem worth it to me to buy overseas insurance. Worst case scenario, I’m out $7,550. The premiums for extra insurance seemed too steep. I should add that my wife broke her arm in St Lucia. We chose to go a private hospital rather than the government run facility. The hospital bill was over $12,000. They would not admit her to the hospital until I paid in full (credit card). They wouldn’t even take an X-ray until I paid for that. After the deductible, her insurance paid the balance. Hope this helps. Tom Peacock SM 240 Aletes Chesapeake Bay for the winter, public health issues in the Caribbean just seem too iffy, especially with the second wave upon us
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Toilet Seawater Valves
Our 1996 SM153 has a seawater valve for each of the toilets. Has anyone with these ever had either the valve or the thruhull fail? A surveyor just told me that he has inspected the same valves/thruhulls on other European boats like a Hallberg-Rassey where they had a failure. Ours are in good shape so I am inclined to keep them with a wood plug nearby in case of a problem. But if there is anyone here on the forum that has experienced an issue, I will change them out. Many thanks.
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Re: C-Drive Oil drain - Alternative
Well said, Bill.
Cheers, Craig -- SN68 Sangaris, Tropic Isle Harbor, FL
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Re: Offshore Health Insurance
Hey Kent,
Know you're the Doc, but my Medicare Part C plan let's me get reimbursed for overseas care (yes, I've got to pay first and then submit for reimbursement, and it can't exceed "normal and customary" which is a rarity in other countries). Just a thought. Yes, US health care is WAY too complicated. I think I read that overhead costs - insurance companies and government - are much more than the actual health care itself. Glad you're a real Doctor, but you'd have an Amel 60 or maybe two if you had gone into health insurance! Cheers, Craig -- SN68 Sangaris, Tropic Isle Harbor, FL
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