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Re: Differences between Super Maramu (SM) and Super Maramu 2000 (SM2000; SM2k)

Courtney Gorman
 

Your best bet would be to reach out to Joel Potter 


On Oct 28, 2020, at 9:18 PM, jimbo ken <jimbokennedy@...> wrote:

I have searched the group but can not find anything that lists what are the main differences between the early SM and the SM 2000 - could somebody please point me to the post if they know it or list the top differences - 

Jim

Differences between Super Maramu (SM) and Super Maramu 2000 (SM2000; SM2k)

jimbo ken
 

I have searched the group but can not find anything that lists what are the main differences between the early SM and the SM 2000 - could somebody please point me to the post if they know it or list the top differences - 

Jim
Re: winterizing the watermaker

CW Bill Rouse
 

Ryan,

As I said, it was from someone else and I have zero experience winterizing...as I tell everyone, I am allergic to cold.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 1:19 PM Ryan Meador <ryan.d.meador@...> wrote:
Miles,

Where/how do you connect your hand pump to the flow meter and other tubes?

Bill,
I appreciate the additional instructions, but as with so many winterization instructions for this unit, they mainly talk about the seawater side.  The fresh water side seems to be almost an afterthought -- "take care ... there is no fresh water inside".  I don't know how to put that into practice.

We're expecting the first freeze of the year this Friday night, and our boat is already on the hard.

Thanks,

Ryan and Kelly
SM 233 Iteration
Salem, MA, USA


On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 1:08 PM CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:
Recently a trusted owner wrote the following:
Winterizing: Recommend using -50F degrees non-toxic water system antifreeze. (2 gallons for a D160)
With the pressure regulator fully counter-clockwise, pump this into the inlet of the high-pressure pump
and through the membrane tubes under minimum pressure. Once the solution has been pumped in, turn
the pressure regulator valve fully clockwise to close it off and retain the solution inside the membrane
tubes. Make sure to blow out the product water lines - take care to make sure there is no fresh water
inside the product flow meter tube. Open, drain, and clean the pre-filter housings.

Disclaimer: I have no experience in winterizing...brrrrr

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 11:43 AM Miles <milesbid@...> wrote:

Ryan,

 

I have a small hand pump.  I connect the plastic tube to the flow meter and pump it full of pink stuff, and continue pumping until I think the surrounding tubes are full.  I also use this on the hot water pipes. 

 

Miles

 

s/y Ladybug,  sm216  200 miles off Bermuda heading south.
Re: winterizing the watermaker

Ryan Meador
 

Miles,

Where/how do you connect your hand pump to the flow meter and other tubes?

Bill,
I appreciate the additional instructions, but as with so many winterization instructions for this unit, they mainly talk about the seawater side.  The fresh water side seems to be almost an afterthought -- "take care ... there is no fresh water inside".  I don't know how to put that into practice.

We're expecting the first freeze of the year this Friday night, and our boat is already on the hard.

Thanks,

Ryan and Kelly
SM 233 Iteration
Salem, MA, USA


On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 1:08 PM CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:
Recently a trusted owner wrote the following:
Winterizing: Recommend using -50F degrees non-toxic water system antifreeze. (2 gallons for a D160)
With the pressure regulator fully counter-clockwise, pump this into the inlet of the high-pressure pump
and through the membrane tubes under minimum pressure. Once the solution has been pumped in, turn
the pressure regulator valve fully clockwise to close it off and retain the solution inside the membrane
tubes. Make sure to blow out the product water lines - take care to make sure there is no fresh water
inside the product flow meter tube. Open, drain, and clean the pre-filter housings.

Disclaimer: I have no experience in winterizing...brrrrr

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 11:43 AM Miles <milesbid@...> wrote:

Ryan,

 

I have a small hand pump.  I connect the plastic tube to the flow meter and pump it full of pink stuff, and continue pumping until I think the surrounding tubes are full.  I also use this on the hot water pipes. 

 

Miles

 

s/y Ladybug,  sm216  200 miles off Bermuda heading south.
Re: winterizing the watermaker

CW Bill Rouse
 

Recently a trusted owner wrote the following:
Winterizing: Recommend using -50F degrees non-toxic water system antifreeze. (2 gallons for a D160)
With the pressure regulator fully counter-clockwise, pump this into the inlet of the high-pressure pump
and through the membrane tubes under minimum pressure. Once the solution has been pumped in, turn
the pressure regulator valve fully clockwise to close it off and retain the solution inside the membrane
tubes. Make sure to blow out the product water lines - take care to make sure there is no fresh water
inside the product flow meter tube. Open, drain, and clean the pre-filter housings.

Disclaimer: I have no experience in winterizing...brrrrr

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 11:43 AM Miles <milesbid@...> wrote:

Ryan,

 

I have a small hand pump.  I connect the plastic tube to the flow meter and pump it full of pink stuff, and continue pumping until I think the surrounding tubes are full.  I also use this on the hot water pipes. 

 

Miles

 

s/y Ladybug,  sm216  200 miles off Bermuda heading south.
Re: winterizing the watermaker

Miles
 

Ryan,

 

I have a small hand pump.  I connect the plastic tube to the flow meter and pump it full of pink stuff, and continue pumping until I think the surrounding tubes are full.  I also use this on the hot water pipes. 

 

Miles

 

s/y Ladybug,  sm216  200 miles off Bermuda heading south.
Re: winterizing the watermaker

Jamie Wendell
 

You have to manually disconnect the small plastic fittings at the flow meter and drain it, as well as the return hose at the panel. There will be water in both the hose and the sight glass if you do not. I learned the hard way a couple of years ago.
The sight glass froze over the winter and broke - very expensive part from Dessalator.
Pumping pink through the LP pump is all you need to do otherwise based on the many times I have winterized my watermaker (230V only).
Jamie
Phantom, A54 #44
Re: Anchor guide measurement

Karen Smith
 

Arnold,

Our setup looks identical to yours, and the width between the plates is exactly 4 inches (103 mm), BUT.... it does narrow down where the forestay chainplate is located to 3.375 inches (87 mm).

We also protected the deck in that area from abrasion by the chain.  We used a 3 inch wide strip of kevlar fabric set in polyester resin that is holding up very well, but also considered a 4 or 5 mm thick plate of Delrin instead of stainless.  A lot easier to machine on the boat :), and very durable to the kind of sliding abuse that the chain inflicts.  It also looks better as it wears.

Bill & Karen
s/v Harmonie
SM160
Annapolis MD, USA
Re: winterizing the watermaker

eric freedman
 

Ryan,
The gauges on my 160 lph watermaker are oil filled.
Fair Winds,
Eric
SM376 Kimberlite

On October 27, 2020 at 7:54 PM Ryan Meador <ryan.d.meador@...> wrote:

Hi Arnold,

Thanks for the info.

We followed basically those instructions already.  Blowing into the blue hose (I assume this is the one marked with blue tape, which is the product water output) did not clear the flowmeter.  It also didn't empty the membranes, nor the pressure gauge.  Has anyone been able to do this procedure successfully?

Thanks,

Ryan and Kelly
SM 233 Iteration
Salem, MA, USA


On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 4:42 PM Arnold Mente via groups.io <Arnold.mente=me.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi,

DESALATOR SAYS:

FREEZING CONDITIONS: If the boat stays in a very cold region, please take a bucket containing 8 litres of warm fresh water mixed with one glycerine litre (you will find it in a drugstore) and let the seawater inlet hose suck up the mixture by starting the watermaker without pressure. You should then empty the flow meter tube on the control panel by blowing into the blue hose connected to the membranes. In normal winter conditions, only empty the flow meter tube and use the sterilizing cartridge ST2.

Arnold
SV Zephyr
SM203


Am 27.10.2020 um 20:17 schrieb Ryan Meador <ryan.d.meador@...>:

Hi all,

We have the 60L/hr, 24V-only Dessalator.  Following the great instructions from past threads on this subject, we've successfully winterized the raw water side with pink antifreeze.  But none of the threads we've found have gone into detail on how to winterize the fresh (product) water side of the system, and we can't figure it out.  We disconnected the product water fittings near the end of the tubes, but little water came out.  I suspect the control panel tubes drained, but the membranes did not.  Also, I still see water inside the flow meter and pressure gauge.  Do any of you know how to drain these and/or replace the fresh water with antifreeze?

Thanks,

Ryan and Kelly
SM 233 Iteration
Salem, MA, USA



--
Arnold
SY Zephyr SM203


 

Re: winterizing the watermaker

Ryan Meador
 

Hi Arnold,

Thanks for the info.

We followed basically those instructions already.  Blowing into the blue hose (I assume this is the one marked with blue tape, which is the product water output) did not clear the flowmeter.  It also didn't empty the membranes, nor the pressure gauge.  Has anyone been able to do this procedure successfully?

Thanks,

Ryan and Kelly
SM 233 Iteration
Salem, MA, USA


On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 4:42 PM Arnold Mente via groups.io <Arnold.mente=me.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi,

DESALATOR SAYS:

FREEZING CONDITIONS: If the boat stays in a very cold region, please take a bucket containing 8 litres of warm fresh water mixed with one glycerine litre (you will find it in a drugstore) and let the seawater inlet hose suck up the mixture by starting the watermaker without pressure. You should then empty the flow meter tube on the control panel by blowing into the blue hose connected to the membranes. In normal winter conditions, only empty the flow meter tube and use the sterilizing cartridge ST2.

Arnold
SV Zephyr
SM203


Am 27.10.2020 um 20:17 schrieb Ryan Meador <ryan.d.meador@...>:

Hi all,

We have the 60L/hr, 24V-only Dessalator.  Following the great instructions from past threads on this subject, we've successfully winterized the raw water side with pink antifreeze.  But none of the threads we've found have gone into detail on how to winterize the fresh (product) water side of the system, and we can't figure it out.  We disconnected the product water fittings near the end of the tubes, but little water came out.  I suspect the control panel tubes drained, but the membranes did not.  Also, I still see water inside the flow meter and pressure gauge.  Do any of you know how to drain these and/or replace the fresh water with antifreeze?

Thanks,

Ryan and Kelly
SM 233 Iteration
Salem, MA, USA



--
Arnold
SY Zephyr SM203

Re: Volvo 12v alternator

Mike Ondra
 

So here’s a couple of things that we learned about the alternator systems on the Volvo. Our original problem was that the 24 V alternator was not charging until fairly high rpm above 1800. Ultimately what we determine was that the warning light on the 24 v panel in the main salon was burned out therefore not completing the exciter circuit. When replaced by a new indicator light the 24 V system behaved properly.

During troubleshooting we noticed the yellow wire on the 12 V alternator was disconnected. It must’ve happened recently because the 12 V alternator was not putting out any voltage today but we didn’t have a problem with the battery in the past several weeks.. The battery was down to 12.4 V. Interestingly the tachometer did not work either, Which makes sense since it’s connected with the black and gray wire to the alternator picking up the unrectified voltage to pace the RPM. 

Turns out that the yellow wire should have been and perhaps was attached to a tab on the main positive lug on the alternator to the battery. That yellow wire appears to feed the 12 V voltage regulator.

Anyway, with the 24 V warning light replaced and the yellow wire connected to the positive lug on the 12 V alternator everything is working great. Thank you all for your input. Note that the above is our rationalization for what happened and may not necessarily be 100% correct.

Mike
Aletes SM240




On Oct 27, 2020, at 1:56 PM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:


Mike,

I am not sure if the following applies to the Volvo 12v alternator, but it applies to the Yanmar 12v alternator:

There is an unused tachometer output wire on all SM Yanmar 12v alternators. See the photo below. Please let me know if yours is the tachometer wire.

Also, possibly there is an issue with the "excite circuit." The alternator will self-excite at higher rpm. Try revving the engine in neutral to 1800 rpm.
<image.png>
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 10:28 AM Mike Ondra via groups.io <mdondra=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:
Lost output from 12 V alternator. Doing initial  trouble shooting  trying to understand the function of the short yellow wire which arises from near the voltage regulator and is not connected to anything else at the female terminal end. Should it be? And to what?


Mike Ondra
Aletes SM 240
Re: Anchor guide measurement

Arnold Mente
 


Hi Amelians,

is someone able to give me the measurement of the anchor guide?
I have attached the picture.

Thank you so much for help, I am now far away and search a solution to build in a SS plate that the chain not damage further the last 20 cm to the bow roller.

Best

Arnold
SV Zephyr
SM 203



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--
Arnold
SY Zephyr SM203
Anchor guide measurement

Arnold Mente
 

Hi Amelians,

is someone able to give me the measurement of the anchor guide?
I have attached the picture.

Thank you so much for help, I am now far away and search a solution to build in a SS plate that the chain not damage further the last 20 cm to the bow roller.

Best

Arnold
SV Zephyr
SM 203



--
Arnold
SY Zephyr SM203
Re: winterizing the watermaker

Arnold Mente
 

Hi,

DESALATOR SAYS:

FREEZING CONDITIONS: If the boat stays in a very cold region, please take a bucket containing 8 litres of warm fresh water mixed with one glycerine litre (you will find it in a drugstore) and let the seawater inlet hose suck up the mixture by starting the watermaker without pressure. You should then empty the flow meter tube on the control panel by blowing into the blue hose connected to the membranes. In normal winter conditions, only empty the flow meter tube and use the sterilizing cartridge ST2.

Arnold
SV Zephyr
SM203


Am 27.10.2020 um 20:17 schrieb Ryan Meador <ryan.d.meador@...>:

Hi all,

We have the 60L/hr, 24V-only Dessalator.  Following the great instructions from past threads on this subject, we've successfully winterized the raw water side with pink antifreeze.  But none of the threads we've found have gone into detail on how to winterize the fresh (product) water side of the system, and we can't figure it out.  We disconnected the product water fittings near the end of the tubes, but little water came out.  I suspect the control panel tubes drained, but the membranes did not.  Also, I still see water inside the flow meter and pressure gauge.  Do any of you know how to drain these and/or replace the fresh water with antifreeze?

Thanks,

Ryan and Kelly
SM 233 Iteration
Salem, MA, USA



--
Arnold
SY Zephyr SM203
Re: Credit when credit is due

Porter McRoberts
 

I have to agree completely. On so many issues. 
The after sales support from Amel is mind bogglingly good. 
Thierry rocks. He’s bailed us out of so many situations, expeditiously and courteously. 

Porter

Porter McRoberts 
S/V IBIS A54-152
WhatsApp:+1 754 265 2206
Www.fouribis.net

On Oct 27, 2020, at 3:29 AM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:


Amel is ranked above all other boat builders in terms of supplying parts to boats built 20+ years ago. I agree and it is one of the reasons that Amel owners support Amel and have given Amel this special reputation. This special reputation sells new Amels and will allow Amel continued success. It is in the BEST interests of all Amel owners to support Amel SAV and all of the people that support us every day. 

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 1:46 AM eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:

I cannot begin to tell all of you how impressed I am  with Amel and particularly Thierry.

They never fail to surprise me..

Last night Monday about 1-2 AM I wrote to Thierry at Amel with my tale of woe with my bow thruster.

Around 10:30 AM I received Thierry's offer for a new gear set for my bow thruster.

I accepted and sent him my card info- I just assumed that it was late in the day Monday and POSSIBLY my parts would go out Tuesday .

I sent an email to Thierry earlier tonight asking when he expects to ship my parts. He sent me a note just now saying 

he was driving to work and that the parts were sent out MONDAY. He said he would give me the tracking info when he gets to the office.

For those of us who try a work around of Amel spares. Please bear in mind the incredible support we receive from 

Amel.. They cannot afford to stock our parts and provide us with such exceptional support without our support.

GREAT JOB AMEL --- THIERRY

Fair Winds,

Eric

SM 376 Kimberlite
Navpod at the helm installation

Arlo
 

Hello all. I will be installing a Navpod at the helm in the next week and aside from clearance on my traveler (far left of photo) and trying to preserve visibility to 3 or 4 of my raymarine instruments on the dash, does anyone have any pearls of wisdom to share regarding placement? Picture attached....
winterizing the watermaker

Ryan Meador
 

Hi all,

We have the 60L/hr, 24V-only Dessalator.  Following the great instructions from past threads on this subject, we've successfully winterized the raw water side with pink antifreeze.  But none of the threads we've found have gone into detail on how to winterize the fresh (product) water side of the system, and we can't figure it out.  We disconnected the product water fittings near the end of the tubes, but little water came out.  I suspect the control panel tubes drained, but the membranes did not.  Also, I still see water inside the flow meter and pressure gauge.  Do any of you know how to drain these and/or replace the fresh water with antifreeze?

Thanks,

Ryan and Kelly
SM 233 Iteration
Salem, MA, USA
Re: Volvo 12v alternator

CW Bill Rouse
 

Mike,

I am not sure if the following applies to the Volvo 12v alternator, but it applies to the Yanmar 12v alternator:

There is an unused tachometer output wire on all SM Yanmar 12v alternators. See the photo below. Please let me know if yours is the tachometer wire.

Also, possibly there is an issue with the "excite circuit." The alternator will self-excite at higher rpm. Try revving the engine in neutral to 1800 rpm.
image.png
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 10:28 AM Mike Ondra via groups.io <mdondra=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:
Lost output from 12 V alternator. Doing initial  trouble shooting  trying to understand the function of the short yellow wire which arises from near the voltage regulator and is not connected to anything else at the female terminal end. Should it be? And to what?


Mike Ondra
Aletes SM 240
Volvo 12v alternator

Mike Ondra
 

Lost output from 12 V alternator. Doing initial trouble shooting trying to understand the function of the short yellow wire which arises from near the voltage regulator and is not connected to anything else at the female terminal end. Should it be? And to what?


Mike Ondra
Aletes SM 240
Re: Amel parts

CW Bill Rouse
 

Rob, contact SAV@... for a new motor and gearbox.
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 8:38 AM Rob Smith <robfromcornwall.1966@...> wrote:
Hi 

I'm after a new motor and gearbox for my outhaul, can you help please?

Kind regards 

Rob

S/Y FORESIGHT 
SM #152

On Thu, 16 Jul 2020, 20:43 Bill Shaproski, <bill.shaproski@...> wrote:
I ordered some parts from Amel last week and they arrived two days later.  
Regards
Bill

On Wed, Jul 15, 2020, 12:02 AM Elaine Leishman via groups.io <leishman.elaine=yahoo.com.au@groups.io> wrote:
Does anyone on the forum know whether Amel is open for business at the moment, or on summer holidays.  I have emailed Maud at sav@... for availability for some parts and have had no response.
Thanks,
Elaine SM2000 Nebo No. 251

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