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Re: Genoa Chain Plate bolts Leaking in aft hanging closet
Ken, I realize that we all use what we have available or can get when we are in remote areas, but, 5200? I am guessing if it seals the leak you have, you'll never get the chainplate off, and if it does not stop the leak, you will never get the chainplate off without taking some of the hull with it. I hope that this seals the leak for you,
On Sat, Oct 31, 2020 at 3:40 AM Ken Powers SV Aquarius <ken@...> wrote: 1. Remove Rub Rail starting from Aft.
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Re: New 175 am alternator
Rink De Haan
Dear Stefan
I am no expert on this but when I was researching for a new 24v alternator for our 2001 SM with the Yanmar 75hp engine the Prestolite dealer advised me to stay with the original size.
The snap in replacement for the original is
For me completely sufficient and working like a dream.
But also interested in the advise of others
Best regards Rink SM2k #330 Razor’s Edge
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Re: New 175 am alternator
He Stefan and Anne
i would also like to see my Volvo Penta TMD 222 and 98 for under SM 222 bj 1998 At 175 AH, I'd be a little nervous about the power of 75 p of the engine, because a 175 Altinator also takes power from the engine. i've been watching Alpha/110 or 24/150 they have a good cargo glider who makes the altinator have a three-step load and the altinator produce high AH by smal upm / min . https://www.mastervolt.de/light machine-24v/ But the tape doesn't fit and something needs to be changed. I would be grateful for experiences from the gupp ? Von meinem iPhone gesendet
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Re: .Re: LiFePO4 Conversion on sv BeBe - SM#387
Scott SV Tengah
We have 450ah victron smart lithium and during fault testing have run the bow thruster on our a54 with engine off. Voltage stays well above 24v so amperage is not spiking as it would with lead acid.
The wind lass draws much less wattage and more than once have used it with engine off to shorten scope when our desired 7:1 swings a bit close to the neighbors. This is all with a set of batteries that have been used for 2 years full time live aboard and cycled over 100 thousand amp hours total. So my experience is that, yes , the high amp problem will be solved. -- Scott 2007 A54 #69 SV Tengah http://www.svtengah.com
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Re: New 175 am alternator
https://www.prestolite.com/pgs_products/alt_search.php Prestolite is a good brand, you can find product and advice with the link above Fair winds Philippe Belloir +33 781 709 791
-------- Message d'origine -------- De : Stefan and Anne Deerberg <stefan.deerberg@...> Date : 30/10/2020 20:33 (GMT+01:00) À : main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Objet : [AmelYachtOwners] New 175 am alternator we bought our OYA, a SM 2000, 373 in April. now we want to change the alternator to a bigger 175 amp. The engine is still the original Yanmar 75hp from 2002. Is there anyone with good experience with a special brand? Do we have to pay attention to something when converting? Which alternator fits this engine? thanks for your ideas, tips and experience Stefan SV OYA, SM 373, Carriacou / Grenada
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Re: Genoa Chain Plate bolts Leaking in aft hanging closet
Ken Powers SV Aquarius
1. Remove Rub Rail starting from Aft.
2. Remove all four lower bolts, then remove the upper single bolt holding the chainplate. 3. Clean hole and bolt with acetone. 4. Clean the Chainplate, Bolts, and Nuts. Also clean the gelcoat where Chainplate will be attached. 5. Verify no damage or pitting on all Stainless surfaces. 6. Put good amount of 5200 into holes. Use a small toothbrush or q-tip to make sure that 5200 is completely covering the walls of bolt hole. 7. Made the same pattern of 5200 which was originally on the chainplate. 8. Set the Chainplate in place and replace upper single bolt and nut. 9. Replace the 4 lower bolts and nuts. 10. Clean up the huge mess of 5200. 11. Glue interior back together with 3M Super 77 Spray Adhesive. 12. Replace Rub Rail rubber piece, this was fairly easy. Job, start to finish, should take about 3 hours. if you have all the materials at hand. 1. 5200, Butyl Tape, or 4200 2. 3M SUPER 77 Spay Adhesive 3. Proper sized wrenches (two) 4. A friend that can handle some choice words, and he may also repeat these words, over and over. 5. Acetone. 6. Rags, and paper towels. 7. Large screwdriver to start the Rub Rail Removal. 8. Something like a screwdriver with a blunt face and a plastic hammer to push the Rub Rail back into place.
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Re: Genoa Chain Plate bolts Leaking in aft hanging closet
Ken Powers SV Aquarius
Well, I ended up using 5200. I bought some Sikaflex 295 (which is supposed to be like 4200) to do the job, as I could not find 4200 or Butyl Tape for sale anywhere in Krabi Thailand. But, after I pulled the chainplate off, with the help of a friend, found that the new batch of SikaFlex had already gone off. So, my friend helper, who has owned a boat for 40 years said WHY ARE YOU USING SIKAFLEX anyway... That stuff is crap!
Then he said a few things like -
When was the last time you had the chainplate off?.... I answered - Well, never!
So, when's the next time you are going to take it off?... I answered - Hopefully never!
Sounds like you need to use 5200, and I'll tell you another thing... There is no way you're not going to be able to get the chainplate off if you need to...
I had some 5200 in my fridge, so I pulled it out, and sealed it up.... After making a huge mess. The job was done.... It was a pretty easy job, including removing and replacing the Rub Rail, it took about 3 hours. The hardest job was cleaning up the extra 5200.
Ken
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Re: Main Furler - Sail stuck / jammed
Germain Jean-Pierre
Hi Ken,
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I remember the event; quite a surprise indeed Jean-Pierre Germain, Eleuthera, SM 007, NZ
On 31/10/2020, at 10:59 AM, Ken Powers SV Aquarius <ken@...> wrote:
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Re: Main Furler - Sail stuck / jammed
Ken Powers SV Aquarius
Hello,
While in Fiji, SM007 and SM2K262 were parked next to each other. JP had a problem with his main, it was not unfurling completely. So I volunteered, and JP hoisted me up SM007's mast. What we found amazed both JP and myself. There was a fiberglass ring around the sail about 1/2 way down the sail. So JP could only unfurl 1/3 of the main, and then it would get stuck. Together we worked the ring back up to the top, unfurled the main and dropped it. We found that the ring had separated from the Mainsail Swivel. We were able to reattach the fiberglass ring back onto the Mainsail Swivel with some 5200. This could have been a bigger problem if happened at a different time. The Mainsail Swivel on Aquarius SM2K262 is different than that of SM007. Aquarius does not have the fiberglass ring, so at some point there was a change in the Mainsail Swivel. When dropping your mainsail on a Super Maramu, one should verify all the parts on the Mainsail Swivel are tight and well attached. If you have this ring on your SM, I would suggest using some 5200 on it and make sure it never becomes a problem in the future. I was wondering if anyone else had this problem. All the best, Ken Aquarius SM2K262 Currently in Krabi Thailand
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Re: New 175 am alternator
Stephan, 175 amps of 24 volts is a lot, but if you do change to a bigger alternator, you will likely need to increase the size of the wire from the battery bank switch to the 24-volt alternator. You will also probably need to change belts and pulleys. I really loved the fact the on the Yanmar engine all 3 belts were exactly the same. Additionally, if the Leece-Neville 24-volt, 175 amp alternator is still working, I can think of several SM owners who will want to buy it. It is very difficult to find an alternator with that high of amperage and that is built as good as the Leece-Neville. Let me know if you want to sell it and I will pass the information to those interested. Bill
On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 2:33 PM Stefan and Anne Deerberg <stefan.deerberg@...> wrote: Dear all!
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New 175 am alternator
Dear all!
we bought our OYA, a SM 2000, 373 in April. now we want to change the alternator to a bigger 175 amp. The engine is still the original Yanmar 75hp from 2002. Is there anyone with good experience with a special brand? Do we have to pay attention to something when converting? Which alternator fits this engine? thanks for your ideas, tips and experience Stefan SV OYA, SM 373, Carriacou / Grenada
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.Re: LiFePO4 Conversion on sv BeBe - SM#387
rossirossix4
Maybe I missed it but does the ability to put 12 lithiums in our SM Redline models solve the high amp problem?? In theory the 4 extra 31 series provide 50% more amp capacity. KAIMI SM429 2004 Redline Emeritus BRITTANY DE LA MER SN86
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Re: Bow Thruster Amps rating.
Hi, On my maramu I have a Leroy Sommer motor 12v 500A 6000w Philippe Belloir +33 781 709 791
-------- Message d'origine -------- De : Chris Doucette <amaroksailing@...> Date : 30/10/2020 18:25 (GMT+01:00) À : main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Objet : Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Bow Thruster Amps rating. I certainly will share what I land on here.. Also In the Class-T vs ANL. The Class-T max out at 400A (what you have and seems to be working). I chose ANL due that I can put one on at the the Amp rating that will match the bow thruster (thus my original question of this thread). I guess I will find out if it blows! It seems here there is not a write or wrong- but it is good to see others being safe as well. Here is a good guide I found to fuses, use, and sizes. http://assets.bluesea.com/files/resources/reference/Quick_Guide_to_Blue_Sea_Systems_Fuses_and_Fuse_Holders.pdf
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Re: A question about coppercoat
ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
Hi Arnold,
We have had no need to clean and grind Coppercoat in the ten years that we have had it , other than occasionally wiping off slime after a few months which we can do swimming.
Have a look at the Coppercoat website--I think you will find that their major market is commercial vessels, oil rigs etc They know about long water times and the huge cost of taking vessels out of use for maintenance.
Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Kilada, Greece
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Matt Salatino via groups.io <helmsmatt@...>
Sent: 30 October 2020 17:17 To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io> Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] A question about coppercoat We’ve only sanded once, 4 days after application. That was 7 years ago.
~~~⛵️~~~Matt
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Re: Bow Thruster Amps rating.
Chris Doucette
Hi Dan,
I certainly will share what I land on here.. Also In the Class-T vs ANL. The Class-T max out at 400A (what you have and seems to be working). I chose ANL due that I can put one on at the the Amp rating that will match the bow thruster (thus my original question of this thread). I guess I will find out if it blows! It seems here there is not a write or wrong- but it is good to see others being safe as well. Here is a good guide I found to fuses, use, and sizes. http://assets.bluesea.com/files/resources/reference/Quick_Guide_to_Blue_Sea_Systems_Fuses_and_Fuse_Holders.pdf
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Re: A question about coppercoat
We’ve only sanded once, 4 days after application. That was 7 years ago.
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~~~⛵️~~~Matt
On Oct 30, 2020, at 1:03 PM, Arnold Mente via groups.io <Arnold.mente@...> wrote:
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Re: A question about coppercoat
We have hauled every hurricane season to store our boat. CC is a hard epoxy. One nice feature is, when cleaning slime, you can take a 6” metal putty knife to scrape it with no ill effects. Straps won’t affect it. No worries.
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~~~⛵️~~~Matt
On Oct 30, 2020, at 12:49 PM, Ruslan Osmonov <rosmonov@...> wrote:
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Re: A question about coppercoat
From my point of view, the elementary problem is that you still have to go to the crane every year to clean it and grind it again so that it works.
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Of course, this increases the costs if you don't want to get out of the water every year. My personal recommendation for those with long water times is still the tried and tested antifoulings for 2 or 3 years (Micron, Seajet ..). This form may be helpful for yachts that do not have epoxy protection under water from the shipyard. My personal question is always why is it not used by commercial shipping? Best Arnold SV Zephyr SM203 Am 30.10.2020 um 17:49 schrieb Ruslan Osmonov <rosmonov@...>: Does CopperCoat stay in tact when hauling out? Given it is epoxy mix coats, I assume so, but still would like to ask. I use regular ablative water based antifoul and every year my boat has marks from straps. and where the straps go, antifoul paint is mostly wiped off and needs painting.
-- Arnold SY Zephyr SM203
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Re: A question about coppercoat
Ruslan Osmonov
Does CopperCoat stay in tact when hauling out? Given it is epoxy mix coats, I assume so, but still would like to ask. I use regular ablative water based antifoul and every year my boat has marks from straps. and where the straps go, antifoul paint is mostly wiped off and needs painting.
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Re: A question about coppercoat
CopperCoat has been the least expensive antifoul I’ve ever used. Spread that “high” cost across 10 or more years.... Matt ~~~_/|)~~~ A50#27
On Friday, October 30, 2020, 10:05:24 AM CST, Patrick McAneny via groups.io <sailw32@...> wrote:
Craig, That sounds expensive, but I spent $1500.00 on bottom paint a couple of years ago. If you got six years for $2300. ,that would work out pretty well,if it works for you ,seems to have had different results for different people ,probably application error.
Pat
SM Shenanigans
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From: Craig Briggs via groups.io <sangaris@...> To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Sent: Fri, Oct 30, 2020 11:20 am Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] A question about coppercoat Hi Pat - check out coppercoatusa.com - they list an SM as needing 18 "Kits" for $2340. Site is a "must read and study".
-- Cheer, SN68 Sangaris, Tropic Isle Harbor, FL
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