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Re: Silicone BT seals

Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond
 

Hi David 

Just a question do you have the bow thruster  shaft lip seal, 29x42x8 as we are struggling to obtain these in Turkey?

Kind regards

Ross Hickey
SV Intrepid Kiwi
SM 2K 356


On Wed, 4 Nov 2020 at 8:32, david bruce
<davidcbruce57@...> wrote:
Hello All, 
I am ordering 10 pr (min order size) of the silicone BT seals pioneered by Jose Venegas a while back. Although I have not used them myself they are apparently quite effective and I am anxious to install them on Liesse (if I ever manage to see her again).   I will have an extra 4 pr at USD 81.00/pr. plus shipping for anyone that would like a pair or two.  If you have specific questions about them I would refer you to the archives.  Private message me if you are interested.  Thanks. 
Best regards, 
David Bruce
Liesse
SN006


Re: Hatch door repair

Jarek Zemlo
 

Slavko Hi,

I replaced my companionway door this August with a brand new made by boat carpenter. There was no problem with lifting the hard dodger and putting it back. You need 1 person to help you with lifting the dodger.
Jarek Zemlo
S/Y NOA BLUE


Silicone BT seals

david bruce
 

Hello All, 
I am ordering 10 pr (min order size) of the silicone BT seals pioneered by Jose Venegas a while back. Although I have not used them myself they are apparently quite effective and I am anxious to install them on Liesse (if I ever manage to see her again).   I will have an extra 4 pr at USD 81.00/pr. plus shipping for anyone that would like a pair or two.  If you have specific questions about them I would refer you to the archives.  Private message me if you are interested.  Thanks. 
Best regards, 
David Bruce
Liesse
SN006


Galley sink plug.

michael winand
 

Hi, we would like to source some new plugs for the galley sink. These are for a sm2000  with the original sink. I have searched the website and not found any information. 
I did hear a mention awhile ago that these sinks are still available in the French Islands of the south pacific. 
We are located in Australia. 
Thanks  Michael and Elaine  Nebo  sm251. 


Re: Hatch door repair

Karen Smith
 

This topic come around about every year, I think!

Actually, the companionway vertical door most certainly can be removed, and without raising the dodger.  Ours is out right now for renewal of its varnish. Once you make a minor modification to the woodwork, removing it for maintenance is easy from then on.  For me, any reveneering  or even just refinishing job, done without removing the door from its tracks would be a half job.  Here is how it is done:

Using a very fine saw (a fine tooth blade in an oscillating multi tool like a Fein works well) cut off the inside of the track on the starboard side. Once the track is opened, the door can easily be removed for proper veneering or painting, or varnish, or whatever.  If this step is beyond your woodworking tools or skills, it’s worth hiring a good marine carpenter to do it for you.

Before cutting, remove  the screws that go into the wood from the cockpit, or you’ll have to cut through them. Not impossible, but annoying.

This part of the door track can be reattached with spacers of wood, plastic or metal to make up for the saw kerf. We installed ours with flush flat head screws we left visible on the inside, but you certainly could countersink and plug them if you wanted them hidden.  To keep the hatch as waterproof as it started you can run a bead of brown colored silicone to seal the saw kerf as you put it back together.  Although short of filling the cockpit with water, it would not make much difference.  Done with a bit of care, the whole process ends up being quite invisible to any but the most fastidious inspection.

We had a post about this some time ago with pictures. Here is a relink to it: https://fetchinketch.net/boat-projects/refinishing-and-repairing-the-super-maramu-companionway/

Giving credit where credit is due, this way of dealing with the companionway came as a suggestion from Joel Potter.

Bill Kinney
SM#160
Harmonie
Annapolis MD.


Re: Hatch door repair

Ian Townsend
 

We did ours with African Mahagony veneer. Ordered thru Amazon. We did it in place, no door removal required. 


Ian
Loca Lola II
SM 153
US East Coast



Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.


-------- Original message --------
From: Dan <danny.rico@...>
Date: 2020-11-03 15:37 (GMT-05:00)
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Hatch door repair

Hi Slavko.  
 I used veneer on mine. Mahogany 
Good luck
Daniel 
Mango 33 Sarqui



On Nov 3, 2020, at 2:46 PM, Alan Grayson <bazgrayson@...> wrote:


Hi Slavko, we painted ours with awlgrip after sanding and fairing. It all has to be done in place but you can lift the door all the way to the dodger roof by removing a piece of plywood which stops the door raising all the way. It was a bit messy with the sanding dust but lots of plastic and tape keeps most of it outside.
Alan Grayson
SM 406 Ora Pai
<Image.jpeg>


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Slavko D. <slavko@...>
Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2020 12:30:50 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Hatch door repair
 
I have very bad hutch door on my SM. Does not look nice at all. See photo attached. I am not sure how to get it better. Just sand it, put some epoxy and then several layers of UV protected varnish. Is this the way to go? I am going to boat tomorrow and will check if door an be taken out, or all the work has to be done on the boat.
Thank you.
--
Slavko
SM 2000
#279


Re: Rudder Stuffing Box Packing Material

Alan Leslie
 

The shaft being 50mm in diameter means the circumference of the SHAFT is 157.08mm. 
The packing has to occupy the space between the shaft and the housing.
Given that the packing is 8mm, the actual length of the packing at the housing side would be about 207mm
If you cut your packing to 157.08 mm (good luck with that) I think you'll find it a bit short.  
The BEST way to do it is to wrap the packing around the shaft (or some other 50mm mandrill) and cut through it diagonally.
That way you get an almost perfect fit which will completely seal when it is compressed by the nut bearing down on it.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: Hatch door repair

Dan
 

Hi Slavko.  
 I used veneer on mine. Mahogany 
Good luck
Daniel 
Mango 33 Sarqui



On Nov 3, 2020, at 2:46 PM, Alan Grayson <bazgrayson@...> wrote:


Hi Slavko, we painted ours with awlgrip after sanding and fairing. It all has to be done in place but you can lift the door all the way to the dodger roof by removing a piece of plywood which stops the door raising all the way. It was a bit messy with the sanding dust but lots of plastic and tape keeps most of it outside.
Alan Grayson
SM 406 Ora Pai
<Image.jpeg>


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Slavko D. <slavko@...>
Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2020 12:30:50 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Hatch door repair
 
I have very bad hutch door on my SM. Does not look nice at all. See photo attached. I am not sure how to get it better. Just sand it, put some epoxy and then several layers of UV protected varnish. Is this the way to go? I am going to boat tomorrow and will check if door an be taken out, or all the work has to be done on the boat.
Thank you.
--
Slavko
SM 2000
#279


Re: Shore Power Breaker Trip - Problem apparently on the boat

Chris Doucette
 


Re: Hatch door repair

Alan Grayson
 

Hi Slavko, we painted ours with awlgrip after sanding and fairing. It all has to be done in place but you can lift the door all the way to the dodger roof by removing a piece of plywood which stops the door raising all the way. It was a bit messy with the sanding dust but lots of plastic and tape keeps most of it outside.
Alan Grayson
SM 406 Ora Pai
Image.jpeg


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Slavko D. <slavko@...>
Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2020 12:30:50 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Hatch door repair
 
I have very bad hutch door on my SM. Does not look nice at all. See photo attached. I am not sure how to get it better. Just sand it, put some epoxy and then several layers of UV protected varnish. Is this the way to go? I am going to boat tomorrow and will check if door an be taken out, or all the work has to be done on the boat.
Thank you.
--
Slavko
SM 2000
#279


Re: Hatch door repair

 

FYI,

The companionway door cannot be removed. I found Chris Waelen in Jolly Harbour Boatyard, Jolly Harbour, Antigua. Chris works wonders with anything wood. I looked him up because he replaced the veneer on the companionway door of an Amel 54 with teak veneer. He does this job with the door in place.
Here is a photo:

The turnkey price is $300 US.
Contact Information
Anything Wood Boat Builder
+1 268-726-1690

I include all of this information because even if you are not in Antigua, I believe if you find a capable wood-working guy, you can probably match the quality and price.
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at 1:14 PM Germain Jean-Pierre <jp.germain45@...> wrote:
I never perform this task but I have heard the following from others who have. 

You cannot remove the door unless you remove the dodger and most people refuse to do that. You can lift the door as far up as it can, affix it there so you can work on the surface and perhaps just sand and then recover with hi quality gloss epoxy paint would be my choice. Apparently, only the very bottom of the door remains covered by the sliders and this is not visible in normal use. 

Good luck in your project. 

Jean-Pierre Germain, Eleuthera, SM007, New Zealand


On 4/11/2020, at 6:30 AM, Slavko D. <slavko@...> wrote:

I have very bad hutch door on my SM. Does not look nice at all. See photo attached. I am not sure how to get it better. Just sand it, put some epoxy and then several layers of UV protected varnish. Is this the way to go? I am going to boat tomorrow and will check if door an be taken out, or all the work has to be done on the boat.
Thank you.
--
Slavko
SM 2000
#279
<TRRF7530.pdf>


Re: Shore Power Breaker Trip - Problem apparently on the boat

Mark Garver
 

Thanks John Pierre, does anyone have the part number of the switch they used? I know Alan was going to try to locate it for me.

Thanks again everyone!

Mark
S/V It’s Good
SM #105
Gloucester, VA


On Nov 3, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Germain Jean-Pierre <jp.germain45@...> wrote:

Hello Alan,

I extended the wires into the forward face of the cockpit locker and installed my manual selector above the Oban controls. 

Tidier and less faffing to get shore power connected. :-)

Cheers,

Jean-Pierre Germain,Eleuthera, SM007, NZ


On 4/11/2020, at 5:21 AM, Alan Grayson <bazgrayson@...> wrote:


Hi Mark that is the auto switch over for shore power and Generator. It is a common fault after this long. I removed mine and put in a manual switch Which means I have to go into the engine room and manually switch over from generator to shore power on the rare occasions I go into a marina. I’ll hunt down the part number of the manual switch and post when I find it?
<Image.jpeg>
And here is the new installation 
<Image.jpeg>

Regards
Alan Grayson
SM 406 Ora Pai
Brunswick, GA


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Mark Garver via groups.io <mgarver@...>
Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2020 10:37:00 AM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Shore Power Breaker Trip - Problem apparently on the boat
 
Two nights ago our shore power breaker tripped, so I shut all power circuits down on the boat and tried to reset it and got a spark and smoke at the shore power pedestal. Tried another pedestal so began to investigate on the boat. Found a problem, but since I don’t have a complete wiring diagram I’m kind of guessing as I go along. Does anyone know what this is or function of this? It appears to be where shore power comes in and out. There are a lot of burnt wires behind it.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Mark
S/V It’s Good
SM #105
Gloucester Point, VA

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Re: Shore Power Breaker Trip - Problem apparently on the boat

Germain Jean-Pierre
 

Hello Alan,

I extended the wires into the forward face of the cockpit locker and installed my manual selector above the Oban controls. 

Tidier and less faffing to get shore power connected. :-)

Cheers,

Jean-Pierre Germain,Eleuthera, SM007, NZ


On 4/11/2020, at 5:21 AM, Alan Grayson <bazgrayson@...> wrote:


Hi Mark that is the auto switch over for shore power and Generator. It is a common fault after this long. I removed mine and put in a manual switch Which means I have to go into the engine room and manually switch over from generator to shore power on the rare occasions I go into a marina. I’ll hunt down the part number of the manual switch and post when I find it?
<Image.jpeg>
And here is the new installation 
<Image.jpeg>

Regards
Alan Grayson
SM 406 Ora Pai
Brunswick, GA


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Mark Garver via groups.io <mgarver@...>
Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2020 10:37:00 AM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Shore Power Breaker Trip - Problem apparently on the boat
 
Two nights ago our shore power breaker tripped, so I shut all power circuits down on the boat and tried to reset it and got a spark and smoke at the shore power pedestal. Tried another pedestal so began to investigate on the boat. Found a problem, but since I don’t have a complete wiring diagram I’m kind of guessing as I go along. Does anyone know what this is or function of this? It appears to be where shore power comes in and out. There are a lot of burnt wires behind it.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Mark
S/V It’s Good
SM #105
Gloucester Point, VA

<IMG_6212.PNG>
<IMG_6211.PNG>


Re: Hatch door repair

Germain Jean-Pierre
 

I never perform this task but I have heard the following from others who have. 

You cannot remove the door unless you remove the dodger and most people refuse to do that. You can lift the door as far up as it can, affix it there so you can work on the surface and perhaps just sand and then recover with hi quality gloss epoxy paint would be my choice. Apparently, only the very bottom of the door remains covered by the sliders and this is not visible in normal use. 

Good luck in your project. 

Jean-Pierre Germain, Eleuthera, SM007, New Zealand


On 4/11/2020, at 6:30 AM, Slavko D. <slavko@...> wrote:

I have very bad hutch door on my SM. Does not look nice at all. See photo attached. I am not sure how to get it better. Just sand it, put some epoxy and then several layers of UV protected varnish. Is this the way to go? I am going to boat tomorrow and will check if door an be taken out, or all the work has to be done on the boat.
Thank you.
--
Slavko
SM 2000
#279
<TRRF7530.pdf>


Re: Shore Power Breaker Trip - Problem apparently on the boat

Mark Garver
 

Thanks guys I know how I’m proceeding!

Fair Winds,

Mark
S/V It’s Good
SM #105
Gloucester Point, VA


On Nov 3, 2020, at 12:25 PM, Chris Doucette <amaroksailing@...> wrote:



Mark,
 
I replaced the solenoid based shore-power Gen switch and landed on the exact BlueSeas switch Alan used- I don't like automagical switching, especially with the 50 /60 hz issue.  I also have an isolation transformer that will be going in very soon for the shore power.

In my case, I did not install the switch in the engine room, rather I ran the necessary AC  wiring to this box (now a junction box) to a location in the Gally next to the AC Panel and just above the Genset Start t so I can work everything AC from there.

Chris
SM 385 Amorak


Hatch door repair

Slavko Despotovic
 

I have very bad hutch door on my SM. Does not look nice at all. See photo attached. I am not sure how to get it better. Just sand it, put some epoxy and then several layers of UV protected varnish. Is this the way to go? I am going to boat tomorrow and will check if door an be taken out, or all the work has to be done on the boat.
Thank you.
--
Slavko
SM 2000
#279


Re: Shore Power Breaker Trip - Problem apparently on the boat

Chris Doucette
 


Mark,
 
I replaced the solenoid based shore-power Gen switch and landed on the exact BlueSeas switch Alan used- I don't like automagical switching, especially with the 50 /60 hz issue.  I also have an isolation transformer that will be going in very soon for the shore power.

In my case, I did not install the switch in the engine room, rather I ran the necessary AC  wiring to this box (now a junction box) to a location in the Gally next to the AC Panel and just above the Genset Start t so I can work everything AC from there.

Chris
SM 385 Amorak


Re: Shore Power Breaker Trip - Problem apparently on the boat

Alan Grayson
 

Hi Mark that is the auto switch over for shore power and Generator. It is a common fault after this long. I removed mine and put in a manual switch Which means I have to go into the engine room and manually switch over from generator to shore power on the rare occasions I go into a marina. I’ll hunt down the part number of the manual switch and post when I find it?Image.jpeg
And here is the new installation 
Image.jpeg
Regards
Alan Grayson
SM 406 Ora Pai
Brunswick, GA


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Mark Garver via groups.io <mgarver@...>
Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2020 10:37:00 AM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Shore Power Breaker Trip - Problem apparently on the boat
 
Two nights ago our shore power breaker tripped, so I shut all power circuits down on the boat and tried to reset it and got a spark and smoke at the shore power pedestal. Tried another pedestal so began to investigate on the boat. Found a problem, but since I don’t have a complete wiring diagram I’m kind of guessing as I go along. Does anyone know what this is or function of this? It appears to be where shore power comes in and out. There are a lot of burnt wires behind it.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Mark
S/V It’s Good
SM #105
Gloucester Point, VA


Re: Rudder Stuffing Box Packing Material

Paul Stascavage
 

I haven’t gotten that far yet Bill.

Currently working on cleaning everything up.

I will report back when I do.

All the best,

Paul Stascavage
SM #466 - s/v Rita Kathryn
On The Hard - Severn Yachting Center - Hayes, VA


Shore Power Breaker Trip - Problem apparently on the boat

Mark Garver
 

Two nights ago our shore power breaker tripped, so I shut all power circuits down on the boat and tried to reset it and got a spark and smoke at the shore power pedestal. Tried another pedestal so began to investigate on the boat. Found a problem, but since I don’t have a complete wiring diagram I’m kind of guessing as I go along. Does anyone know what this is or function of this? It appears to be where shore power comes in and out. There are a lot of burnt wires behind it.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Mark
S/V It’s Good
SM #105
Gloucester Point, VA

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