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Re: What is this for?

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

It is an at sea foot rest for when you are sitting on the head. It slots into the grill on the floor. Adjust to your leg length. Henri thinks of every need.

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 18 November 2020 at 00:26 Slavko Despotovic <slavko@...> wrote:

I found this wooden part in front and aft head. Any idea what is this for and where it is mounted. Sorry I feel stupid but can not figure out where to use it.

Thank you.

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Slavko
SM 2000
#279


Re: What is this for?

Pietro Zaccari
 

Slavko,

if you sit on your throne you can position the foot rest by inserting it into the holes in the shower grate based on your height, in case you need when the boat is heeling.

Pietro and Licia
SM2K 364 BOLERO


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Oggetto: [AmelYachtOwners] What is this for?

I found this wooden part in front and aft head. Any idea what is this for and where it is mounted. Sorry I feel stupid but can not figure out where to use it.

Thank you.

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Slavko
SM 2000
#279


Re: More battery questions

ngtnewington Newington
 

Dean,

Thanks I will order a pair. I checked the Lifeline technical data and general information and they say nothing about balancing. They do talk about not mixing old with new, but we all know that batteries age differently so it makes sense to balance.

Nick
AML 54-019

On 17 Nov 2020, at 11:38, Dean Gillies <stella@...> wrote:

Nick,

I would recommend balancers as I have personal experience of AGM getting unbalanced, and I believe this should be avoided. Especially since the balancer is cheap. 

Victron suggest their balancer can be used for up to 3x 200Ah strings (pairs), so I would suggest you use two balancers.  You should connect the midpoints of two strings together and use the balancer on two strings.  Do this twice for your 4 strings.

I will be doing something similar with my 6 strings if my replacement batteries end up being AGM.

Cheers
Dean
SY Stella
A54-154


Re: What is this for?

Jason Rutledge
 

A post like this, just isn't complete without a photo/photos of the subject item, being demonstrated.....


Re: What is this for?

Keith Tice
 

It is for you to put your feet on when the boat is heeled over and you need to sit on a toilet.

It anchors in the wooden floor grid.

Keith
Bikini - SM2k #282


On 17 Nov 2020, at 12:27, Slavko Despotovic <slavko@...> wrote:

I found this wooden part in front and aft head. Any idea what is this for and where it is mounted. Sorry I feel stupid but can not figure out where to use it.

Thank you.

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Slavko
SM 2000
#279
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Re: What is this for?

Thomas Peacock
 

Indeed, both the foot rests and the water tank gauge impressed me so much when I first viewed an Amel that I figured that a lot of other things were equally clever and well engineered. And that has been the case.

Tom Peacock
SM 240 Aletes
Chesapeake Bay

On Nov 17, 2020, at 7:36 AM, Slavko Despotovic <slavko@...> wrote:

Joel,
If nothing else, this is a great reason to buy Amel. You made my day.
Thank you,
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Slavko
SM 2000
#279 Bonne Anse in Portoroz


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Tom Peacock
SM 240 Aletes
Chesapeake Bay


Re: What is this for?

Slavko Despotovic
 

Joel,
If nothing else, this is a great reason to buy Amel. You made my day.
Thank you,
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Slavko
SM 2000
#279 Bonne Anse in Portoroz


Re: What is this for?

amelforme
 

These are foot rests that encourage one to be able to better brace
themselves when using the marine toilet.
They fit into the teak grate over the shower sump.
Anecdotal rumor suggests Captain Amel was launched from the throne into the hanging locker opposite to starboard by an unexpected lurch and then crafted these foot rests...

JOEL F. POTTER
CRUISING YACHT SPECIALIST LLC
THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY
Office 954-462-5869 

On Nov 17, 2020, at 6:27 AM, Slavko Despotovic <slavko@...> wrote:

I found this wooden part in front and aft head. Any idea what is this for and where it is mounted. Sorry I feel stupid but can not figure out where to use it.

Thank you.

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Slavko
SM 2000
#279
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Re: Rolls Batteries

Ulrich Michael Dangelmeyer
 

Dear all!

just my small contribution to the endless battery discussion:
after 10 months we came back to Soleil Bleu in September and all batteries were completely dead. None of them had more than 7 volts. Although the years before our 800 watt solar panels always kept them fresh. But after 7 years these lead acid boxes were obviously at the end. May be our marina people have been manoeuvring too much with the bow thruster in spring to steer the boat into the travel lift for servicing. Without power supply.

Then I asked Amel, they recommended a replacement with AGM 110 Ah, preferably from Victron, also they match perfectly into the batt compartment and with the installed setup.
We then immediately ordered 12 Victron AGMs from our marina, at a very fair price and not more expensive than from Germany and by freight forwarder. The batteries were there after 3 days by ship from Athens. No tinkering and experiments necessary.
The MasterVolt charger was adjusted accordingly and everything works perfectly. We are now back in Germany until spring, in the meantime the batteries are supplied by the solar panels. I am also considering whether to install one or two additional battery balancers. I follow Nick and Dean. I will ask Victron / TransWatt here in Germany for expertise.
Lithium batteries were not an issue for us at the moment, the boat was completely without power and the marina people were kind enough to help us with spare batteries for a few days. Lithium is only interesting for us in the next generation.

Cheers and stay safe and well.

Ulrich
„Soleil Bleu“ A54#88
Leros Marina / GR
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Slavko,
I researched Rolls batteries last year and my choice was the S12-128 model, but this was driven partly by the fact that they are drop-in replacements for my existing Zenith AGM's.  Rolls batteries seem to have a good reputation.

I did not find them to be cheap, but also not particularly expensive, in the UK they are about GBP240 each. 

Cheers
Dean
SY Stella
A54-154



Re: What is this for?

Slavko Despotovic
 

Ann-Sofie,

Great, thank you. Would never figure it out. Very much appreciated.

All the best,

Slavko


Re: What is this for?

Ann-Sofie, S/Y Lady Annila
 

It is to get a foot support when you are sitting on the toilet and the boat is healing.

You attach in to the teak floor (don’t lnow the proper name of it)

Regards
Ann-Sofie at S/Y Lady Annila, SM232, 1998


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17/11/2020 kl. 11:27 skrev Slavko Despotovic <slavko@...>:

I found this wooden part in front and aft head. Any idea what is this for and where it is mounted. Sorry I feel stupid but can not figure out where to use it.

Thank you.

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Slavko
SM 2000
#279
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Re: Rolls Batteries

Slavko Despotovic
 

Dean,

I was looking at S12-116 AGM. This is what I can get here. Price is 413 euro, and S12-128 are 438 euro. I am not sure if 12-128 would go in to battery compartment on SM 2000. I need to measure, mainly the hight that 240mm comparable to 233mm of 12-116. Will have t go to the boat in next few days :)).
They are definitely cheaper in UK. I need to put some pressure on Rolls dealer here :)).

Regards,
Slavko
Slavko


Re: Rolls Batteries

Dean Gillies
 

Slavko,
I researched Rolls batteries last year and my choice was the S12-128 model, but this was driven partly by the fact that they are drop-in replacements for my existing Zenith AGM's.  Rolls batteries seem to have a good reputation.

I did not find them to be cheap, but also not particularly expensive, in the UK they are about GBP240 each. 

Cheers
Dean
SY Stella
A54-154


Re: More battery questions

Dean Gillies
 

Nick,

I would recommend balancers as I have personal experience of AGM getting unbalanced, and I believe this should be avoided. Especially since the balancer is cheap. 

Victron suggest their balancer can be used for up to 3x 200Ah strings (pairs), so I would suggest you use two balancers.  You should connect the midpoints of two strings together and use the balancer on two strings.  Do this twice for your 4 strings.

I will be doing something similar with my 6 strings if my replacement batteries end up being AGM.

Cheers
Dean
SY Stella
A54-154


What is this for?

Slavko Despotovic
 

I found this wooden part in front and aft head. Any idea what is this for and where it is mounted. Sorry I feel stupid but can not figure out where to use it.

Thank you.

--
Slavko
SM 2000
#279


Rolls Batteries

Slavko Despotovic
 

Sorry to add some more about batteries. Previous owner replaced batteries 10 years ago with Victron AGM . So far I did not have any problems but I know from my previous boat that they much overdue for replacement. On my 2003 40th foot  I was replacing batteries every 5-7 years. Sailing 3-6 months per year and consuming 120-160Ah at 12V per day.
I am not ready for lithium as this is my first year of Amel ownership so I would go for AGM or GEL batteries. At first the Victron was a choice but then I found Rolls battery AGM with very high numbers of cycles. So, my question is strait-forward, What is the experience with Rolls 105Ah batteries, and as they very expensive for AGM, are they worth the price.

Thank you.
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Slavko
SM 2000
#279 currently in Portoroz, Slovenia


More battery questions

ngtnewington Newington
 

Sorry to go on about batteries……

I have 8 Lifeline AGM batteries set up as four pairs of 24v. So the four pairs are in parallel. I set them up as I found the original and as Amel must have set them up. That is I have not installed a battery balancer.  

At the moment I am on the boat half time so the batteries end up being 100% charged for weeks and months on end from the solar system which will hopefully balance them up. 

Given the cost of a balancer from Victron  energy of about $100 and the value of the battery bank I should install one.

Does anyone have an opinion on this and know if I only need one balancer or should I buy two?

Kind regards

Nick

S/Y Amelia
AML 54-019 Leros Gr



Re: Lithium Batteries under Consideration

Dean Gillies
 

Scott,
I would definitely agree that changing from Lithium to Lead is highly unlikely, for anyone.  I started this comparative investigation because I'm impressed by the Lithium system which came with my new "Covid" caravan. I'd be happy with similar characteristics in my Amel.

Grant,
Interesting concept. Are both your engine and start batteries are operating at the same voltage? 

cheers
Dean
SY Stella
A54-154

 


Re: Lithium Batteries under Consideration

Grant Starling
 

Dean (Scott),

I did a full upgrade to lithium about a year ago and am now adding to my battery capacity which is currently 400AH with another 500AH in preparation for world cruising next year.  

Lots of good advice given in the previous posts, and I would support much of what Scott has said about the challenge of designing a ‘system’ with lithium.  Any idea of a ‘drop-in’ replacement lithium battery should be treated with caution for the reasons outlined previously.

if I can add anything to the debate it would be the use of a DC battery to battery charger (may have missed this?).  I use a Sterling B2B 60amp charger between both my 90amp engine alternator and my 90amp prop shaft alternator and my lithium bank.  This allows all my alternator charging into my lithium bank to be done via a programmed lithium profile provided on the B2B60. 

As the alternators are both linked first to my engine starter battery (Optima red top), then through the B2B to my lithium bank, they cannot (easily) overcharge my lithium bank, preventing battery BMS from disconnecting due to high current.  This system also prevents the alternators from being destroyed from a voltage spike due to BMS disconnect.  As a fail safe I can also turn off the B2B manually to stop it sending charge to my lithium bank if I feel the need I.e. I don’t like floating my lithium batteries for long so if I am on motor for an extended period I simply switch the B2B off using the remote panel at my nav station.

This setup has worked well for me so far, so check it out if you are interested.

best
Grant

SV Allonzee


Re: New Thread on A54 fridge pumps (ATTN: OLIVER Vela Nautica)

Scott SV Tengah
 

Second update: I measured the pump flow rate on the original flojet with a hose and bucket and it was 6.5 liters per minute. 

I measured the flow rate on the brushless set at 25% duty cycle and it was a bit over 5 liters per minute. That lower flow rate probably explains some, but not all of the 60% energy savings I am seeing vs. the brushed motor.

Frigoboat literature states that you need to supply 3.8 liters per minute, so even at my lower flow rate, I'm well over the requirement.

What is really odd is that the fridges seem to run better in that they're running less and use less energy. I surmise there may be some truth in Craig Briggs explanation about how warmer water results in more efficient compressor operation. My freezer, which gets cooling water that has been warmed by the first and second fridges, seems to be drawing less energy. Overall, I have a daily power surplus that is greater than the water pump energy savings (with solar output accounted for) can explain.

So far so good. Now let's see if it lasts!



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Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com

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