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Re: Replacing standing rigging - advice for other jobs?

Matt Salatino
 

Make sure to get an antenna cable with tinned copper shielding. Non tinned shielding turns to dust in a few years.

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Nov 21, 2020, at 2:13 PM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

Trey,

The VHF coax cable in the mainmast is good for 10-20 years. Maybe now is a good time. Choose a high-quality low-loss coax if you do this.
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Sat, Nov 21, 2020 at 1:08 PM Trey Cobb <tcobb775@...> wrote:
Hi all,

I'm the new caretaker of Balthazar (A54-102). Due to a fracture on the main sail foil, it is being replaced and I'm taking the opportunity to also replace the original mainsail. In the process of taking down the mast, a crack was found in the original standing rigging so we've decided the timing is good to have it all replaced as well.

Since the boat is hauled out and the mast is down, are there any other preventative maintenance jobs I should consider? I am replacing the main mast sole. Anything else you wish you had done when having your own rigging replaced?

Thanks,
Trey Cobb.


Re: Replacing standing rigging - advice for other jobs?

Mark Erdos
 

I am replacing mine within the next couple of weeks as I replace the entire VHF.

 

Out of curiosity, what causes the VHF coax to fail?

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2020 9:13 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Replacing standing rigging - advice for other jobs?

 

Trey,

 

The VHF coax cable in the mainmast is good for 10-20 years. Maybe now is a good time. Choose a high-quality low-loss coax if you do this.

CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School

Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 

 

View My Training Calendar

 

 

On Sat, Nov 21, 2020 at 1:08 PM Trey Cobb <tcobb775@...> wrote:

Hi all,

I'm the new caretaker of Balthazar (A54-102). Due to a fracture on the main sail foil, it is being replaced and I'm taking the opportunity to also replace the original mainsail. In the process of taking down the mast, a crack was found in the original standing rigging so we've decided the timing is good to have it all replaced as well.

Since the boat is hauled out and the mast is down, are there any other preventative maintenance jobs I should consider? I am replacing the main mast sole. Anything else you wish you had done when having your own rigging replaced?

Thanks,
Trey Cobb.


Re: Replacing standing rigging - advice for other jobs?

 

Trey,

The VHF coax cable in the mainmast is good for 10-20 years. Maybe now is a good time. Choose a high-quality low-loss coax if you do this.
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Sat, Nov 21, 2020 at 1:08 PM Trey Cobb <tcobb775@...> wrote:
Hi all,

I'm the new caretaker of Balthazar (A54-102). Due to a fracture on the main sail foil, it is being replaced and I'm taking the opportunity to also replace the original mainsail. In the process of taking down the mast, a crack was found in the original standing rigging so we've decided the timing is good to have it all replaced as well.

Since the boat is hauled out and the mast is down, are there any other preventative maintenance jobs I should consider? I am replacing the main mast sole. Anything else you wish you had done when having your own rigging replaced?

Thanks,
Trey Cobb.


Replacing standing rigging - advice for other jobs?

Trey Cobb
 

Hi all,

I'm the new caretaker of Balthazar (A54-102). Due to a fracture on the main sail foil, it is being replaced and I'm taking the opportunity to also replace the original mainsail. In the process of taking down the mast, a crack was found in the original standing rigging so we've decided the timing is good to have it all replaced as well.

Since the boat is hauled out and the mast is down, are there any other preventative maintenance jobs I should consider? I am replacing the main mast sole. Anything else you wish you had done when having your own rigging replaced?

Thanks,
Trey Cobb.


Re: Amel original hard antifouling?

 

Scott, I was told that Amel used the International Micron series, including Micron 66 and the less effective Micron Extra were used in the past. I believe that Hempel makes a reasonably good hard antifouling. They have several ranges including one for fast boats that you do not want. I am not 100% sure which one you want for cruising, although I suspect it is Hempel Cruising Performer.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Sat, Nov 21, 2020 at 10:30 AM Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...> wrote:
Thanks Bill. 

We are scraping as much as we can and then going to feather sand and paint over it. The yard here can't do soda blasting so I don't want to risk a hand sanding. Tengah is 13 years old so maybe next time around its time to go down to gel coat. 

The manual specifies a hard bottom paint so I presume it was something other than the self ablative Shogun 33. Any idea which hard paints were used in the past? 


--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: Amel original hard antifouling?

Scott SV Tengah
 

Thanks Bill. 

We are scraping as much as we can and then going to feather sand and paint over it. The yard here can't do soda blasting so I don't want to risk a hand sanding. Tengah is 13 years old so maybe next time around its time to go down to gel coat. 

The manual specifies a hard bottom paint so I presume it was something other than the self ablative Shogun 33. Any idea which hard paints were used in the past? 


--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: Amel original hard antifouling?

 

Scott,

Amel has changed antifouling over the years. Amel currently uses SEAJET 033 SHOGUN. Amel SAV told me that SEAJET antifouling is compatible with all others, although I would double-check that. I continue to respect the quality of Micron 66.

I had antifouling flaking upon haul-out as you describe. It was traced to an unscrupulous painter who substantially thinned my Micron 66 before application with an airless sprayer. Like you, it was fine as long as it was wet, but once it dried, it started flaking. The manufacturer of Micron 66, International, traced the problem to a well-known painter in New Zealand. International reimbursed me for some of the costs of removing all of the antifouling. I am not saying this is your issue, but it definitely happened to me. We had everything scraped and sanded down to the gelcoat and started over. 

CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Sat, Nov 21, 2020 at 3:27 AM Gerhard Mueller via groups.io <carcode=me.com@groups.io> wrote:
During the decades I have sailing I have learned the kind of antifouling does not depend of the brand of the boat but rather more of the water the boat is swimming in.
--
Gerhard Mueller
Amel Sharki #60
Currently Kalamata, Greece


Re: NIKIMAT spare parts

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Sorry about my misunderstanding Pat, 



On Friday, November 20, 2020, 06:01:59 PM CST, Patrick McAneny via groups.io <sailw32@...> wrote:


Eric, That makes more sense , Alex said you were sailing back in a few weeks , May sounds about right, that would be great ,I have a cardboard tube I will Fed Ex you. Enjoy the winter . 
Thanks,
Pat 
SM Shenanigans 


-----Original Message-----
From: eric freedman <kimberlite@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io; Patrick McAneny via groups.io <sailw32@...>
Sent: Fri, Nov 20, 2020 1:06 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] NIKIMAT spare parts

Hi Pat,
I will be sailing back to n]NY mid May.
I could bring it with me and tghen UPS it to you.
Best,
Eric

On November 19, 2020 at 6:44 PM "Patrick McAneny via groups.io" <sailw32@...> wrote:

Alex, Did you mean , fly back, he just sailed down ,it was 28 degrees here this morning ! I would still like to buy the dipstick .
Pat
SM Shenanigans


-----Original Message-----
From: Alexandre Uster von Baar via groups.io <uster@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Nov 19, 2020 3:04 pm
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] NIKIMAT spare parts

Eric on Kimberlite is currently in Sint Maarten and will sail back to the US in 5 or 6 weeks.  

If anyone is interested by some of the parts I have left, this would be a good opportunity to save on shipping.  

http://supermaramu2000.com/parts_for_sale/

Sincerely, Alexandre

 


Re: Amel original hard antifouling?

Gerhard Mueller
 

During the decades I have sailing I have learned the kind of antifouling does not depend of the brand of the boat but rather more of the water the boat is swimming in.
--
Gerhard Mueller
Amel Sharki #60
Currently Kalamata, Greece


Amel original hard antifouling?

Scott SV Tengah
 

Hi all,

We're hauled out right now and the antifouling seems to be flaking off the boat down to a very hard, shiny antifoul. The odd thing was that the antifoul looked great upon haulout and slowly started flaking after it dried out. Underwater, it looked fine.

I have read somewhere that I can't recall the brand of antifoul that Amel puts on new hulls, particularly the Amel54 / SM. Anyone know what the brand/model antifoul originally used by Amel? Thanks.

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: Lithium Batteries under Consideration

Randall Walker
 

Hello Arno,
I am in the process of replacing mine, What is the price range you have?

Cheers,
Randall

Virus-free. www.avg.com


On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 6:03 PM Arno Luijten <arno.luijten@...> wrote:
For those in the vicinity and that also think Lithium is still too much complication for their needs, we are currently doing a group-purchase of Firefly Carbon Foam batteries on St. Maarten in the Caribbean.

If interested, let me know as the more we buy the better the price will be.

Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121


Re: NIKIMAT spare parts

Patrick McAneny
 

Eric, That makes more sense , Alex said you were sailing back in a few weeks , May sounds about right, that would be great ,I have a cardboard tube I will Fed Ex you. Enjoy the winter . 
Thanks,
Pat 
SM Shenanigans 


-----Original Message-----
From: eric freedman <kimberlite@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io; Patrick McAneny via groups.io <sailw32@...>
Sent: Fri, Nov 20, 2020 1:06 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] NIKIMAT spare parts

Hi Pat,
I will be sailing back to n]NY mid May.
I could bring it with me and tghen UPS it to you.
Best,
Eric

On November 19, 2020 at 6:44 PM "Patrick McAneny via groups.io" <sailw32@...> wrote:

Alex, Did you mean , fly back, he just sailed down ,it was 28 degrees here this morning ! I would still like to buy the dipstick .
Pat
SM Shenanigans


-----Original Message-----
From: Alexandre Uster von Baar via groups.io <uster@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Nov 19, 2020 3:04 pm
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] NIKIMAT spare parts

Eric on Kimberlite is currently in Sint Maarten and will sail back to the US in 5 or 6 weeks.  

If anyone is interested by some of the parts I have left, this would be a good opportunity to save on shipping.  

http://supermaramu2000.com/parts_for_sale/

Sincerely, Alexandre

 


Re: Adjusting Ultraflex steering cables?

Scott SV Tengah
 

Thank you Olivier! Exactly what I was looking for.
--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: NIKIMAT spare parts

eric freedman
 

Hi Pat,
I will be sailing back to n]NY mid May.
I could bring it with me and tghen UPS it to you.
Best,
Eric

On November 19, 2020 at 6:44 PM "Patrick McAneny via groups.io" <sailw32@...> wrote:

Alex, Did you mean , fly back, he just sailed down ,it was 28 degrees here this morning ! I would still like to buy the dipstick .
Pat
SM Shenanigans


-----Original Message-----
From: Alexandre Uster von Baar via groups.io <uster@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Nov 19, 2020 3:04 pm
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] NIKIMAT spare parts

Eric on Kimberlite is currently in Sint Maarten and will sail back to the US in 5 or 6 weeks.  

If anyone is interested by some of the parts I have left, this would be a good opportunity to save on shipping.  

http://supermaramu2000.com/parts_for_sale/

Sincerely, Alexandre

 


Re: Lithium Batteries under Consideration

Arno Luijten
 

For those in the vicinity and that also think Lithium is still too much complication for their needs, we are currently doing a group-purchase of Firefly Carbon Foam batteries on St. Maarten in the Caribbean.

If interested, let me know as the more we buy the better the price will be.

Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121


Re: NIKIMAT spare parts

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Excellent!

My email is:  uster at rocketmail dot com

sincerely, Alexandre


On Friday, November 20, 2020, 10:51:35 AM CST, Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...> wrote:


Hi Alexandre;

 

I’m interested in a couple of the items you had listed. What is a good e-mail to contact you on?

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alexandre Uster von Baar via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2020 12:04 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] NIKIMAT spare parts

 

Eric on Kimberlite is currently in Sint Maarten and will sail back to the US in 5 or 6 weeks.  

 

If anyone is interested by some of the parts I have left, this would be a good opportunity to save on shipping.  

 

http://supermaramu2000.com/parts_for_sale/

 

Sincerely, Alexandre


Re: NIKIMAT spare parts

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Hi Alexandre;

 

I’m interested in a couple of the items you had listed. What is a good e-mail to contact you on?

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alexandre Uster von Baar via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2020 12:04 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] NIKIMAT spare parts

 

Eric on Kimberlite is currently in Sint Maarten and will sail back to the US in 5 or 6 weeks.  

 

If anyone is interested by some of the parts I have left, this would be a good opportunity to save on shipping.  

 

http://supermaramu2000.com/parts_for_sale/

 

Sincerely, Alexandre


Re: Adjusting Ultraflex steering cables?

Beaute Olivier
 

Hello Scott,

in order to tension the cables' sheaths, you need to turn the threaded tubes clockwise when looking to portside.
Before this, you need to undo the big nut of each cable while you hold firmly the threaded tube with plyers.
Once released, mark the tubes with a blade in order to know how much you turn. Both tubes must be turned of the same amount, usually between 1 and 2 turns.
The best way to assess how much you need to turn is to have someone at the helm and someone at the quadrant.
Turn the wheel of a quarter of a turn, watch the quadrant and mark the position, then turn the wheelslowly the other way until the person at the quadrant says STOP as soon as he sees the quadrant move. Then you knwo how much slack you have on the wheel circumference. 5 cm is acceptable and necessary. 10 cm and more is too much.
Your goal is to turn the tubes until you have only 5 cm slack on the wheel.

Hope this is clear.

it's just like when you adjust the tension on your bicycle brake cable sheath.

Olivier

On Friday, November 20, 2020, 08:25:21 AM GMT+1, Scott SV Tengah <scott.nguyen@...> wrote:


Hi all,

I have Ultraflex M61 ft 25 82 steering cables on my A54 and they're in need of adjustment. I believe these are the same cables in the SM. There's a bit too much play and well, Olivier's purchase survey stated that I should tighten them. Additionally when using the linear AP, there's a bit of a clunk that I've isolated to the steering quadrant end of the cables. The steering rack end is totally quiet.

Has anyone successfully tightened these cables? If I try to turn the large bronze nut, entire assembly rotates and it seems the cable does seem to tighten a bit momentarily.  But because black jacketed portion of the steering cable also rotates, once I remove my wrench from the large bronze nut, the entire assembly rotates back to the previous position.

I took the steering quadrant off and tried to rotate the end "toggle" that attaches to the quadrant, but that too will rotate back to the previous position if I try to tighten it.

Any help appreciated!



--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: NIKIMAT spare parts

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Hello Pat, 

noted for the fuel stick

Eric just arrived, he suggested he could bring some parts back when he goes back (I understood in 6 weeks - wil ask him again this afternoon). 

alexandre



On Thursday, November 19, 2020, 05:45:05 PM CST, Patrick McAneny via groups.io <sailw32@...> wrote:


Alex, Did you mean , fly back, he just sailed down ,it was 28 degrees here this morning ! I would still like to buy the dipstick .
Pat
SM Shenanigans


-----Original Message-----
From: Alexandre Uster von Baar via groups.io <uster@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Nov 19, 2020 3:04 pm
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] NIKIMAT spare parts

Eric on Kimberlite is currently in Sint Maarten and will sail back to the US in 5 or 6 weeks.  

If anyone is interested by some of the parts I have left, this would be a good opportunity to save on shipping.  

http://supermaramu2000.com/parts_for_sale/

Sincerely, Alexandre


Adjusting Ultraflex steering cables?

Scott SV Tengah
 

Hi all,

I have Ultraflex M61 ft 25 82 steering cables on my A54 and they're in need of adjustment. I believe these are the same cables in the SM. There's a bit too much play and well, Olivier's purchase survey stated that I should tighten them. Additionally when using the linear AP, there's a bit of a clunk that I've isolated to the steering quadrant end of the cables. The steering rack end is totally quiet.

Has anyone successfully tightened these cables? If I try to turn the large bronze nut, entire assembly rotates and it seems the cable does seem to tighten a bit momentarily.  But because black jacketed portion of the steering cable also rotates, once I remove my wrench from the large bronze nut, the entire assembly rotates back to the previous position.

I took the steering quadrant off and tried to rotate the end "toggle" that attaches to the quadrant, but that too will rotate back to the previous position if I try to tighten it.

Any help appreciated!



--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com

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