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Welcome aboard! I am sure you will find this group to be an incredible source of information and inspiration.
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Mark and Jennifer Garver S/V It’s Good SM #105
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Re: It´s time to introduce ourselves.
Roque
Wow!! The bar keeps going up!! Welcome Anke and Martin Roque Attika A54 #117 Paraty Brazil Em ter., 8 de dez. de 2020 às 12:02, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> escreveu:
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Re: New member, one foot in San Francisco, one in the Med
JB, If I were insuring in today's environment, I would be tempted to buy liability insurance and sell-insure for all other damages. If this appeals to you there is a broker I trust in the business who will write liability only insurance. Gary and his son, Elliott, write marine policies worldwide: Gary Golden & Elliott Golden Manifest Marine 604 Stonewall Lane Fredericksburg, Virginia 22407 USA Gary@...
On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 8:51 AM JB Duler <jbduler@...> wrote: Hi Pat,
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Re: Heater and fuel bladder
Please, please don't play with propane!!!!
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Up in the California Sierras where we have our winter cabin, every year we get one or two people who die in their van from bad stoves. The typical story is that the snow is blowing, sometimes blocking the exhaust or pushing bad air under the door where it finds its way inside (because in this case the doors are not sealed well or there are holes for wires in the chassis). In our van we installed a very simple regular Airtronic D2 made by the German company espar. We bought it online with heatso in the UK. The Sprinter has something set up to get your fuel supply directly into our diesel tank. You can do the same thing directly from the diesel line next to the Raccor filters. Fresh air in (inlet in the cockpit in a sheltered place), warm air out and exhaust away from that (outside the hull). It is super efficient, powerful, takes hours to install, and can easily heat the whole boat. If you want to heat the driver area, super easy, you add a Y connector and a duct. Very, very powerful. If you are a solo navigator, just put the controls near the wheel. At 2.200 m altitude we go from 20F to 75F in 15 minutes. Even if you don't die, bad fumes will cause nausea and headaches (I am not an MD). Cheers,
On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 3:42 AM JEFFREY KRAUS <jmkraus@optonline.net> wrote:
-- John-Bernard Duler --
John Bernard "JB" Duler San Francisco Meltem # 19, Western Med
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Re: It´s time to introduce ourselves.
A very cordial welcome to Anke and Martin. I hope you enjoy our group as much as we do. Bill
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Re: New member, one foot in San Francisco, one in the Med
Hi Pat,
Better late than never! Pantaenius is just a broker, even though they want to portray themselves as an insurer. They used to be one of our agents. I am still working and a bit busy (hopefully will go back to more sailing/cruising at some point), and I will look into the past thread. Where are you based? Cheers, JB On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 6:46 AM Patrick McAneny via groups.io <sailw32=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
-- John-Bernard Duler -- John Bernard "JB" Duler San Francisco Meltem # 19, Western Med
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Re: New member, one foot in San Francisco, one in the Med
Patrick McAneny
John,
Too bad you did not join the group last spring , you could have contributed greatly to a discussion the group had about group insurance.
I was in the market to insure my boat after Pantaenius pulled out of the US market and insurance was more difficult and costly to acquire . I thought it possible for a group such as the Amel Owners to self insure , I suggested it to another owner and we put a thread out to the group ,suggesting it. I envisioned keeping it simple ,but suggestions came in ,going in many directions , more complex , with objections ,etc.
Not having a background in the insurance industry ,and not willing to answer basically the same concerns and questions over and over ,I gave up on herding the cats. I still think the idea has merit , if lead by someone that has the background and the willingness to invest the time and energy to get it off the ground. You may find it interesting to go back and read the posts
Welcome to the group,
Pat
SM Shenanigans
Search the topic "Self Insurance" post # 52235 dated May 18, 2020
here is a link below;
https://amelyachtowners.groups.io/g/main/message/52235
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From: JB Duler <jbduler@...> To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Sent: Mon, Dec 7, 2020 9:37 pm Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] New member, one foot in San Francisco, one in the Med Hello all,
I wanted to introduce myself. I bought Bill Reilly's Meltem. What can I say? Just fell in love with her. Dealing directly with Bill instead of a broker was like day and night. I have been around boats all my life, started with an Opti, then a 420, then a Finn with 470s and 505s. I still race a Laser at European and World championships. I have also raced and cruised all kind of boats. My best memories were with my Swan 47. BUT no more teak decks for me (!). Racing in the freezing cold and windy San Francisco Bay took a toll on me, hence a Meltem with cold beers, and in the Med will be a nice change. On the business side I am an engineer and I have been in the insurance and software business all my life, throughout the world. Anything from owning a brokerage company to Exec or CEO of insurance companies, one of them I founded. I hate to mix pleasure and business but I have to say I don't like the state of yacht insurance, and maybe Amel owners are a special breed. If anybody wants to discuss a self insured group, a rent a captive, just reach out to me. Totally doable and we will put our Mentor, Bill Rouse, as Trustee (Bill, I should have asked before). I love the vibe of that group. Where do you find the time the find to maintain your boat with such a high standard? I hope to meet some of you in person :-) -- John Bernard "JB" Duler San Francisco Meltem # 19, Western Med
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Re: It´s time to introduce ourselves.
ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
Welcome, Martin and Anke,
We spent three years in Chile on Pen Azen including two seasons ( 2003 and 2005) in and around the Beagle Channel and also got to know Mariolina and Giorgio and their wonderful cruising guide ( we even feature with a small entry in their second edition ).
Very envious of your going back! An Amel is the perfect boat for those waters.
Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Kilada, Greece
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Martin Birkhoff <mbirkhoff@...>
Sent: 08 December 2020 12:33 To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] It´s time to introduce ourselves. It´s time to introduce ourselves. We started our sailing careers in 1978 (Anke) and (1985) Martin. Since 1998 we spent our time sailing SV “Just do it” a bilge keel 39 feet Reinke Super 11. This is a double chine aluminum design of German engineer Kurt Reinke. Sailing areas have been Baltic Ocean and North Sea. From 2004 to 2009 we made a circumnavigation including Patagonia and Tierra del Fuego. Here it happened after meeting Mariolina Rolfo and Giorgio Adrizzi and their Amel "Saudade III" in Ushuaia that we decided if we ever would buy a GRP design it has to be an Amel. In 2016 we changed to our 54 Mago del Sur (ex Bronwyn owned by Robin Griffith who did a circumnavigation with her from 2011 to 2013). During the last years she got a refit and now she is ready to start milemunching again. Ok, there are still one or two repairs to be done ... Anke and I are landscape architects. She is civil servant in the Government of Bremen, I Martin had run my own company for environmental impact studies and landscape architecture. We plan to sail the Med in 2021 and leave for Caribean waters end of the year. Than continuing through the Panama Chanal and heading South to Patagonia and Tierra del Fuego again. To be continued … Martin SV Mago del Sur – 54#40
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Re: A55 , # 9
Billy Newport
I'm in the process of adding more MV also. I switched my Victron 35A MPPT to a SCM60 during the week and added an Easyview 5 above the AC panel in the galley. I replaced the 675A fuse/holder under the nav seat with a MV shunt and put the 675A fuse in the shunt instead of the original fuse holder I removed. I will finish this weekend by connecting the Alpha pro II to both my chargers 100A and 60A, then the Easyview and then the SCM60 then the shunt. At least thats the plan anyway. I will also add a MV NMEA bridge so I can get data out of MV to store on my logging device which I have everything else besides MV being logged to right now (NMEA, Volvo data, gen data, various 433Mhz temp sensors around the boat on compressors, rooms etc).
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It´s time to introduce ourselves.
It´s time to introduce ourselves. We started our sailing careers in 1978 (Anke) and (1985) Martin. Since 1998 we spent our time sailing SV “Just do it” a bilge keel 39 feet Reinke Super 11. This is a double chine aluminum design of German engineer Kurt Reinke. Sailing areas have been Baltic Ocean and North Sea. From 2004 to 2009 we made a circumnavigation including Patagonia and Tierra del Fuego. Here it happened after meeting Mariolina Rolfo and Giorgio Adrizzi and their Amel "Saudade III" in Ushuaia that we decided if we ever would buy a GRP design it has to be an Amel. In 2016 we changed to our 54 Mago del Sur (ex Bronwyn owned by Robin Griffith who did a circumnavigation with her from 2011 to 2013). During the last years she got a refit and now she is ready to start milemunching again. Ok, there are still one or two repairs to be done ... Anke and I are landscape architects. She is civil servant in the Government of Bremen, I Martin had run my own company for environmental impact studies and landscape architecture. We plan to sail the Med in 2021 and leave for Caribean waters end of the year. Than continuing through the Panama Chanal and heading South to Patagonia and Tierra del Fuego again. To be continued … Martin SV Mago del Sur – 54#40
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Re: Heater and fuel bladder
JEFFREY KRAUS
Just a quick note regarding my use of the propane heater.
It wasn't left on for an extended period of time, I only had the screw on little canister, so it was used sparingly. It was brought for just such emergency use. Unfortunately, the propane switch in the propane locker had failed, so the stove wasn't an option. Perhaps we shouldn't use the stove aboard either, considering it too runs on propane. Making the solo run, and north of the gulf stream within 75 miles of the coast, boat and ship traffic is very active, and it gets cold at night. It was November. From the entrance of Delaware Bay , north across the Fairways leading into NY harbor it was extremely active. I made that crossing at night. There were a bunch of draggers working the "mud hole", which is just off the harbor entrance, complicating the crossing. They haul back, turn, and go the other way indiscriminantly. Ask me how I know that. If you think I was down below long enough to drop dead of carbon monoxide poisoning you are mistaken. I was lucky to come down and light the stove and warm up for an hour. Jeff Spirit Amel 54 #14
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Mastervolt on 54 goes Lithium
Wolfgang Weber <webercardio@...>
Hi Arno, Great informations, thank you very much. 1. They only sell now the mastervolt alpha pro 3 2. I will put a fuse 500A in the MV shunt 500. I will not use the MV fuse (85€) but a flat fuse for 13€. 3.our Amel had not the optional inverter,so when adding the MV ultra combi I put it on the place of the MV chargemaster 100A to keep work for installation simple.It is easy to bring 220V near to the batteries. 4.yes the MV lithium is great and with bus-system unique on the market. But the costs are very high. 5.there is a nice youtube video made by a young independent man who tested the batteries, cut them in pieces and gives comments. 6.I will take the 24v batteries and bring them in parallel in 3 or 4 groups to the electric connection point in the batterycompartment- but all this I will decide when hopefully be back on the boat. And I will ask these point the people from Battle born. I have send a mail to a premium MV service, but did receive an answer to my thoughts and questions. I wish you all a safe and happy Christmas time, stay healthy. Wolfgang Weber ( in Germany) SY Elise Amel 54 #162(Fort Lauderdale)
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Re: New member, one foot in San Francisco, one in the Med
Roque
Welcome JB! If you brouse this Forum you will find a thread where self-insurance was discussed for a while. Enjoy your Amel Roque Attika A54 Paraty- Brazil Em ter., 8 de dez. de 2020 às 05:30, David Crisp <david@...> escreveu:
Welcome to the community John,
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Re: New member, one foot in San Francisco, one in the Med
David Crisp
Welcome to the community John,
You have stirred up happy memories of when I lived in Tiburon and raced out of Tiburon Yacht Club on a J105. Now living back in the UK but cruising on my Amel 54 in the Med in the summer. I'm currently based near Toulon but heading to Greece in the Spring, hope we get to cross paths and share stories over a beer. -- David Crisp SV Wilna Grace Amel 54 #58
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Re: 3 topics Smart Regulator Hydronic diesel heater
Hi Kent,
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I think this has been done before by an Amel in Scandinavia, with success. Not sure who?? It would be easy to try it with some flexible ducting pipe run from the outlet, over the cockpit combing and into the tented cockpit. For sure it would work as a heater. Then if successful plumb it in properly. I have not found much dirt around the existing outlet but I guess it would smell a bit engine roomy, and of course there is the Amel bilge...on a positive note a weekly wash down of the engine room with bucket of hot soapy water, stiff brush and an aquavac is a good discipline anyway...maybe add a filter like on a cooker hood extractor? On the subject of heating. I was thinking of installing a mini heated towel rail in the aft cabin head. The idea was to plum it into the hot water from the engine. Only need to drill two 15mm holes in the bulkhead with towel rail directly hanging the other side. The pipe would be copper or stainless. There could be a simple diverter valve in the engine domestic hot water circuit so the flow would come from the hot water tank return and the return would (have either a one way valve or just an on off) go back to the engine. In hot countries the towel rail would be out of the circuit and thus off. I have not got around to this, but in cold climates it would be really great. There could also be a 220v heating element so with either the engine or the generator or shore power there would be heat. Problems ? It would have to be custom made. Maybe it would get too hot, like 80 centigrade.....I know the hot water can get scalding hot after a motor! Nick, (back in U.K. in hospital after knee replacement. Hoping to be ready to sail by March.) S/V Amelia AML 54 Leros Gr.
On 8 Dec 2020, at 01:21, karkauai via groups.io <karkauai@...> wrote:
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Re: 3 topics Smart Regulator Hydronic diesel heater
Kent, I remember one of the beautiful Amel 54’s (Tinto IV) that I looked at very closely had done a circumnaviation of Norway, Sweden, Finland (through the Russian canals) and the owner (Bengt Martinson) had rigged a similar setup as they were sailing well north of the Arctic circle. Here is a picture I had found on Facebook explaining what he did… he said it consisted of a plastic 90 degree elbow and 150 cm of flexible ventilation hose attached to the existing vent. He said it kept the enclosure nice and toasty as long as they were motor sailing and gave off absolutely no smell (although I can attest that the engine room on Tinto IV was spotless). Bengt has since sold Tinto IV to another lucky buyer so not sure he is still watching these pages or not.
 Brent
On Dec 7, 2020, 11:43 PM -0500, Porter McRoberts via groups.io <portermcroberts@...>, wrote:
Seems like a great idea Kent. --
Brent Cameron Future Amel Owner & Amel Owner Registry Moderator Oro-Medonte, Ontario, Canada
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Re: Heater and fuel bladder
Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Yes there are but increasingly they are being recognized as being dangerous. In older homes that were less airtight, not as bad. But in the modern home with the modern attitude of shut everything up, very dangerous. It is all about volume. In a home with the internal doors open there is a reasonable volume. One room with doors and windows tight shut, very different. Take care good friends. Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl
On 08 December 2020 at 09:49 "Matt Salatino via groups.io" <helmsmatt@...> wrote:
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Re: 3 topics Smart Regulator Hydronic diesel heater
Seems like a great idea Kent.
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Go for it! Porter Porter McRoberts S/V IBIS WhatsApp:+1 754 265 2206Www.fouribis.net
On Dec 7, 2020, at 3:21 PM, karkauai via groups.io <karkauai@...> wrote:
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Re: New member, one foot in San Francisco, one in the Med
Mohammad Shirloo
Welcome to the group and family John, and congrats on your new Amel. Having sailed Southern California, before our now 6 seasons in the Med, you are in for a treat.
Happy Sailing;
Mohammad and Aty B&B Kokomo AMEL 54 #099
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
On Behalf Of JB Duler via groups.io
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 6:38 PM To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] New member, one foot in San Francisco, one in the Med
Hello all,
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New member, one foot in San Francisco, one in the Med
Hello all,
I wanted to introduce myself. I bought Bill Reilly's Meltem. What can I say? Just fell in love with her. Dealing directly with Bill instead of a broker was like day and night. I have been around boats all my life, started with an Opti, then a 420, then a Finn with 470s and 505s. I still race a Laser at European and World championships. I have also raced and cruised all kind of boats. My best memories were with my Swan 47. BUT no more teak decks for me (!). Racing in the freezing cold and windy San Francisco Bay took a toll on me, hence a Meltem with cold beers, and in the Med will be a nice change. On the business side I am an engineer and I have been in the insurance and software business all my life, throughout the world. Anything from owning a brokerage company to Exec or CEO of insurance companies, one of them I founded. I hate to mix pleasure and business but I have to say I don't like the state of yacht insurance, and maybe Amel owners are a special breed. If anybody wants to discuss a self insured group, a rent a captive, just reach out to me. Totally doable and we will put our Mentor, Bill Rouse, as Trustee (Bill, I should have asked before). I love the vibe of that group. Where do you find the time the find to maintain your boat with such a high standard? I hope to meet some of you in person :-) -- John Bernard "JB" Duler San Francisco Meltem # 19, Western Med
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