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Re: B&G autopilot installation

 

I really like the install in your Sharki. I think it is perfect and gets rid of the chain-drive noise. That looks like the Jefa 150 KgM autopilot direct drive unit type I. I think a Mango or SM will need a Jefa 3600 Nm (375 KgM) autopilot direct drive unit type DD2 (12 or 24 volts).

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
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On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 11:30 AM Volker <Puchta@...> wrote:
Hi Arlo,

we did a similar project on our Sharki. But I we have choosen a more compact drive from JEFA, which is mounted to a stainless L shaped steel profile, bolted to the stringer.

Regards,
Volker 
SV Mickmoon; Sharki hull 176


Re: Fresh Water Pump

Arnold Mente
 

Hello,

I change last year to Jabsco PAX MAX 24V. Cheap, working well, spare parts easy to get. I take a second on Bord.

Best
--
Arnold
SY Zephyr SM203


Fresh Water Pump

Ian Townsend
 

We would like to convert to a diaphragm type fresh water pump. We are looking two options right now.  Shurflo Aqua King II 4.0 gpm (55 PSI sealed switch, shutoff at 3.8 bar, ) and Seaflo Series 54 5.0 gpm (adjustable switch).

1. Is there another pump you have experience with that you would recommend?
2. Given the old FEIT/AMFA pump was 15/30, should I even consider the Aqua King with set cutoff PSI of 55?

Many thanks.

Ian
SM153
Bahamas


Re: B&G autopilot installation

Volker
 

Hi Arlo,

we did a similar project on our Sharki. But I we have choosen a more compact drive from JEFA, which is mounted to a stainless L shaped steel profile, bolted to the stringer.

Regards,
Volker 
SV Mickmoon; Sharki hull 176


Re: B&G autopilot installation

Karen Smith
 
Edited

Ario,

I think you are on the right track.  The key will be having a good robust way of transferring the thrust forces from the ram to the hull so the design of the bracket is important. Remember: Nothing too strong ever breaks!

it is normally considered best practice to have the autopilot drive attach to the rudder shaft with a tiller arm separate from the normal steering system. Thus is done for two reasons.  It avoids needing to add a hole in the existing structure and thereby weakening it, and in the highly unlike event the existing quadrant was to fail or come loose, the autopilot is a completely redundant system.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Charleston, SC, USA



B&G autopilot installation

Arlo
 

Hello all. I have a 1985 Amel Mango hull # 46. I am installing a new B&G autopilot using the B&G T2 marine linear actuator. The space is tight but It will fit fine. I unfortunately need to cut some of the original plywood top where the starboard mattress rest on for access to the compartment where I plan to have a stainless steel support bracket made to support the torque generated forward and aft and side to side when actuated. Also the Ram will not fit down in the space unless I remove some of the mattress support temporarily. I made sure I have clearance for all hard over rudder angles. I also verified my rudder feedback mechanism will fit. 


So having said all of that before I start cutting (which I hate doing) has anyone else installed a similiar or same setup in your Amel? Any challenges or issues I need to be aware of? I attached a few pictures as well and will follow up with more pics once the project is completed. The ram is sitting on top of the mattress support but will be under it once installation is completed.

Thanks
Arlo


Re: Bilge pump activation switch

Thomas Kleman
 

Once again thanks Bill. My initial research yielded some plastic toggle switch extensions (apparently popular with the motor-head crowd) but nothing durable looking. I might bring a toggle switch to Home Depot and see if I can find some kind of thin metal tubing to replicate your design.
One curiousity of my crisis last night (happy hour approaching, bilge float not working, need to use the shower).....the Amel supplied switch/mount was inexplicably slightly different in shape and orientation. I had to make new holes and rivet the replacement.

Tom and Kirstin
SM2K 422
Oahu


Re: Bilge pump activation switch

 

Thomas,

Amel made the one on SM 387 from copper tube. I could not find copper tube when I needed it, but found aluminum tube. See a snippet of a page from my Amel Book:
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Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
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On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 3:41 PM Thomas Kleman <lorient422@...> wrote:
As I was cleaning the terminals of my bilge pump activation switch, it disintigrated and fell into the bilge. Oops. Fortunately I had 2 spare switches with mountings so no big deal. But a question to the group. This switch is an Apem 631H with an extension mounted over the toggle for the strings which attach to the float. What exactly is that extension made of and how is it mounted (by Amel, I assume) ? It almost looks like some kind of heat shrink plastic shroud. It would be nice to have a few of these.

Thomas Kleman
SV L'ORIENT
SM2K 422


Bilge pump activation switch

Thomas Kleman
 

As I was cleaning the terminals of my bilge pump activation switch, it disintigrated and fell into the bilge. Oops. Fortunately I had 2 spare switches with mountings so no big deal. But a question to the group. This switch is an Apem 631H with an extension mounted over the toggle for the strings which attach to the float. What exactly is that extension made of and how is it mounted (by Amel, I assume) ? It almost looks like some kind of heat shrink plastic shroud. It would be nice to have a few of these.

Thomas Kleman
SV L'ORIENT
SM2K 422


An Amel Survey by Olivier Beaute - Sat, 01/16/2021 20:00-21:00, Please RSVP #cal-reminder

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Reminder: An Amel Survey by Olivier Beaute

When: Saturday, 16 January 2021, 20:00 to 21:00, (GMT+00:00) UTC

Where:From La Rochelle, France

An RSVP is requested. Click here to RSVP

Organizer: Bill Rouse brouse@...

Description:

All,
 
It is my great pleasure to announce that Olivier Beaute will present at our first ZOOM Meeting of 2021. It will be held on 16 January 2021 20:00 to 21:00 UTC. Details:
 
Many members of the Amel Yacht Owners Group trained on their new Amels with Olivier in La Rochelle. Many of us relied on Olivier as the manager of Amel SAV. And, a substantial number of our Group have used Olivier's surveys when purchasing their pre-owned Amels. As most of you know, after a long and successful career with Amel, Olivier Beaute went into the survey business and established ATLANTIC YACHT SURVEY.
 
The topic of Olivier's ZOOM Meeting will be "An Amel Survey." His presentation will last about 30 minutes with 30 minutes for questions. Tilo Peters will monitor, queue, and ask Olivier your texted questions.  
 
This meeting will be very good for all of our members. 
  • Members who own an Amel will someday face having their Amel surveyed. These members will be interested in how to maintain and prepare their boat for a survey and some of the common things that are overlooked by Sellers in preparation to sell their Amel. This will be important information to know in advance of a survey. 
  • Members who are searching for an Amel will need a survey to complete the purchase. These members will enjoy learning more about the survey process, especially the Olivier Beaute survey process. This should be extremely valuable.

I suspect that this meeting may book to capacity and urge you to register soon.

Topic: AYOG January Gathering: An Amel Survey
Time: Jan 16, 2021 08:00 PM (20:00) GMT
 
Join Zoom Meeting
 
Meeting ID: 821 2513 7503
 
Join by Skype for Business
 
YouTube Livestream: https://youtu.be/zYika5HEkZE


Re: Engine Battery Drain - Is it the Prop Shaft Alternator?

Clive Chapman
 

You could try disconnecting the engine start battery and see if the voltage drop continues. That would establish if the continuing volts drop is actually due to a dead battery or because there’s an unexpected load remaining connected to the battery (alternator exciter coils maybe? Alternator regulator failed?).

I don’t know the Amel electrical systems so am basing this on a reasonable knowledge of car electrics. 


Engine Battery Drain - Is it the Prop Shaft Alternator?

Alan "Woody" Wood
 

We're currently in a marina, on shore power with the battery charger on.. and the starter battery (2 year old Victron 110ah) has suddenly died - showing less than 2v! and reducing 0.01v every 5 minutes).

We had our Valeo prop shaft alternator bench tested recently by a local electrician and put back.  When he replaced it, the switch for the generator had been reversed.. ie 'on' was now 'off' and vice versa.  I suspected the diode had been reversed or damaged in the re-istallation so disconnected the prop alternator hoping this would stop the drain - it didn't - so maybe it wasn't the problem.

The Mastervolt Chargemaster 24/100 has had intermittent display problems lately although still keeping the house batteries at 100% throughout.. could that be related?

I am at a loss at what investigate next - any suggestions? 

Cheers

Woody
SM 1997
Mothership


Re: ULTRA anchor 45KG or 35KG

Jarek Zemlo
 

Victor Hi,

many thanks for the pictures.
All the best

Jarek Zemlo
NOA BLUE


Re: FEIT Freshwater Pump Troubleshooting

 

Ian,

Here are a few things for you:
  1. You should not need to prime it, but you usually need to open a tap so air can escape.
  2. The accumulator tank should be set with the pump OFF and the system depressurized. Set the tank pressure at Cut-Off pressure less 15%.
  3. If the one-way valve is leaking it can cause this cycling and constant running because the pressure and water will leak back into the tank.
  4. The Square D pressure switch can be purchased in many places in the world.
Bill
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CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
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On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 5:20 PM Juan de Zulueta <jdezulue@...> wrote:
Hello Ian,

Last time I changed the fresh water pump i had to prime it.
I just dropped water through the exit hose.

You might have rust in the pressure tank going into the diaphragm.

Envoyé de mon iPhone

Le 14 janv. 2021 à 19:14, Orange <jdezulue@...> a écrit :



Envoyé de mon iPhone

Le 14 janv. 2021 à 19:07, Ian Townsend <smlocalola@...> a écrit :



Our FEIT freshwater pump won’t stop cycling. I have tried:

- adjusting cutin bolt spring
- cleaning the diaphragm
- changing out the D Squared switch
- playing with contacts
- sanding the brushes 
- spraying with Corrosion X and WD40

When I tap it with a rubber hammer it stops. But then starts again when a tap is opened and won’t stop until another tap of the breaker is switched off.

The only thing left to try is the Accumulator tank pressure. Tomorrow I will pump it to about 12 PSI.

Two questions:

1. Last time I serviced the unit, it did not need priming. But if it does, what is the best way? 
2. Is there anything else I might try?


Many thanks.



Ian
Loca Lola II
SM153
Bahamas


Re: FEIT Freshwater Pump Troubleshooting

Juan de Zulueta
 

Hello Ian,

Last time I changed the fresh water pump i had to prime it.
I just dropped water through the exit hose.

You might have rust in the pressure tank going into the diaphragm.

Envoyé de mon iPhone

Le 14 janv. 2021 à 19:14, Orange <jdezulue@...> a écrit :



Envoyé de mon iPhone

Le 14 janv. 2021 à 19:07, Ian Townsend <smlocalola@...> a écrit :



Our FEIT freshwater pump won’t stop cycling. I have tried:

- adjusting cutin bolt spring
- cleaning the diaphragm
- changing out the D Squared switch
- playing with contacts
- sanding the brushes 
- spraying with Corrosion X and WD40

When I tap it with a rubber hammer it stops. But then starts again when a tap is opened and won’t stop until another tap of the breaker is switched off.

The only thing left to try is the Accumulator tank pressure. Tomorrow I will pump it to about 12 PSI.

Two questions:

1. Last time I serviced the unit, it did not need priming. But if it does, what is the best way? 
2. Is there anything else I might try?


Many thanks.



Ian
Loca Lola II
SM153
Bahamas


Re: FEIT Freshwater Pump Troubleshooting

Juan de Zulueta
 



Envoyé de mon iPhone

Le 14 janv. 2021 à 19:07, Ian Townsend <smlocalola@...> a écrit :



Our FEIT freshwater pump won’t stop cycling. I have tried:

- adjusting cutin bolt spring
- cleaning the diaphragm
- changing out the D Squared switch
- playing with contacts
- sanding the brushes 
- spraying with Corrosion X and WD40

When I tap it with a rubber hammer it stops. But then starts again when a tap is opened and won’t stop until another tap of the breaker is switched off.

The only thing left to try is the Accumulator tank pressure. Tomorrow I will pump it to about 12 PSI.

Two questions:

1. Last time I serviced the unit, it did not need priming. But if it does, what is the best way? 
2. Is there anything else I might try?


Many thanks.



Ian
Loca Lola II
SM153
Bahamas


FEIT Freshwater Pump Troubleshooting

Ian Townsend
 

Our FEIT freshwater pump won’t stop cycling. I have tried:

- adjusting cutin bolt spring
- cleaning the diaphragm
- changing out the D Squared switch
- playing with contacts
- sanding the brushes 
- spraying with Corrosion X and WD40

When I tap it with a rubber hammer it stops. But then starts again when a tap is opened and won’t stop until another tap of the breaker is switched off.

The only thing left to try is the Accumulator tank pressure. Tomorrow I will pump it to about 12 PSI.

Two questions:

1. Last time I serviced the unit, it did not need priming. But if it does, what is the best way? 
2. Is there anything else I might try?


Many thanks.



Ian
Loca Lola II
SM153
Bahamas


Re: ULTRA anchor 45KG or 35KG

VICTOR MOLERO
 

Hello Jared.
All I dd was to cut part of the fibre glass under de bow pulpit inox plaque. With just that centimeter in the aft part and also another cut of fibre and inox in the outer forward side, the shank of the anchor fits perfectly well. I am sending picture. If you need more explanations, let me know.
Victor


Re: ULTRA anchor 45KG or 35KG

VICTOR MOLERO
 

Hello Jared.
All I dd was to cut part of the fibre glass under de bow pulpit inox plaque. With just that centimeter in the aft part and also another cut of fibre and inox in the outer forward side, the shank of the anchor fits perfectly well. I am sending picture. If you need more explanations, let me know.
Victor

El jue., 14 ene. 2021 23:42, Jarek Zemlo via groups.io <noa_blue=protonmail.com@groups.io> escribió:
Victor Hi,
Thanks and would appreciate if you could send some pictures of modifications done on the bow roller for fitting 45KG Ultra.

Jarek Zemlo
NOA BLUE


Re: Replacing C Drive mounts while boat is in the water.

Paul Guenette
 

Thank you Ian,

I checked and I have not been able to see or find that ring, (I will dig a little deeper).

Paul Guenette
Aramis
SM - 444
Comox, BC Canada

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