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Super Maramu later model with a Secondary Saltwater Manifold

 

The folks at SOFOMARIN in France (supplier to Amel for PVC manifolds for the 55, 50, & 60) and I have been working on a PVC Secondary Saltwater Manifold in PVC for late model SM's.

The original Saltwater manifold looks like this:
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The Secondary Saltwater Manifold we are designed looks similar to this, but assembled by gluing and welding. In the photo below parts are taped together.
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What I would like to do is to have 1 or 2 SM owners order and install the above design (see attached proforma). I am 99% sure it will work, but you never know. In case there are any issues, it would be best if an owner of a SM located in France or Europe is the first to try. The cost of the manifold complete is 437.36 euro less 15% or 371.76 euro. This includes 1 meter of 35mm wire reinforced hose to replace the secondary manifold to the primary manifold is included. That hose is hard to find.

Please let me know if you will be the first to try this.

Regarding the Amel 54 Secondary Saltwater Manifold, a 54 owner is ordering it and as soon as I know there are no problems, I will release order information here.

CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


Re: Any SM owners use a Beta engine??

Dan Wilcox
 

Hi Mark, 

I did end up moving the motor mounts.  The ones closest to the "C" drive remained basically in the same place.  Center pin is approximately 2" aft of "C" drive body.  Both sets of new mounts are centered 18.25 inches apart.  The aft (towards stern) are 39" back (on center).  Forward I used the HY150, for the aft I went to the HY230 (This takes bulk of weight from engine and 24v alternator).

Note:  I did this install myself and in no way consider myself an expert.  There is a slight vibration when idling in neutral, but smooths out completely when placed in forward or reverse.  I'm guessing that is normal.

Thanks Dan
Feierabend SM #86

On Wednesday, January 20, 2021, 09:16:59 AM PST, Dan Wilcox via groups.io <dwilcox123@...> wrote:


i can take some pictures and measurements for you, and will also include mount models.  I'll run down to the boat today and send them tonight.

Thanks, Dan
Feierabend SM #86

On Wednesday, January 20, 2021, 05:19:30 AM PST, Mark Barter <markbarter100@...> wrote:


Hi Dan,

Sorry to resurrect this old topic but the installation didn't go well because the fitter failed to install new engine mounts meaning that we have excessive vibration and noise. I am going to have the mounts changed. 

What mounts did you end up using please? I can see they are different to the originals. Were you able to put them in the same place as the old mounts without alteration?

Thanks
Mark
--
Mark & Nicky Barter
S/V Nunky
SM 110


Re: SM spare halyard on main mast

Jarek Zemlo
 

Slavko,
thanks, that looks nice and with good distance from the genoa so there is no interference.
Regards
Jarek
NOA BLUE


Re: SM spare halyard on main mast

Slavko Despotovic
 

Jarek,

this is how is done on my Amel. Never mind the broken FM antenna that have been replaced. 

Regards,
--
Slavko
SM 2000
#279 Bonne Anse in Portoroz


Re: SM spare halyard on main mast

Miles
 

Hi Bill,

 

For interest you are correct.  Amel did change the mast top along with many other things.  When I bought Ladybug, my SM 216, from Amel, they offered the extra halyard holder as an expensive option.  I accepted.  It was a beautifully crafted plate of stainless steel that was fitted to the top of the mast and had over hangs on the front two sides for halyard blocks.  I am not at the boat now (the boat is in Le Marin.  I am in Newport), but I will take a photo when I return in an two months or so if anyone is interested.

 

Regards,

 

Miles


Re: Where do you send the grey water from a washing machine?

Ian Townsend
 

On our SM, the washing machine grey water goes from the drain pipe to a tee in the hose that runs aft to the bilge in the engine room. It works perfectly. The washing machine you have might be different but ours does not require a fresh water pump with PSI above 30. 

Ian & Margaret
S/V Loca Lola II 
SM153

On Jan 20, 2021, at 12:33 PM, JB Duler <jbduler@...> wrote:

Hello,

We are rebuilding the whole plumbing system.

1. For the washing machine, where do you send the grey water? In the bilge and then you pump it out? There is an used thruhull above the water line with a sea cock. Any of you sending the grey water above the water line. If you heel on the wrong you run the risk of sending sea water inside the washing machine. Not good. If you close the sea cock you run the risk of a memory lapse and running the washing machine through a closed sea cock. Not good either.
What is your setup?
2. Fresh water pump: is 6GPM, 60 PSI too much pressure?

Thks!
--
John Bernard "JB" Duler
San Francisco
Meltem # 19, Western Med


Re: SM spare halyard on main mast

Jarek Zemlo
 

Juan
thank you, looks like the best solution for the masts we have
Regards
Jarek
NOA BLUE


Re: SM spare halyard on main mast

 

OK, the next time someone asks this same question, here is my answer😀☺😀
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CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 11:36 AM Juan de Zulueta <jdezulue@...> wrote:
Jarek,

I have the same mast head on my SM#32.
Using the hole at the front there is a big eye as per the picture attached on which you can put a block for a spinnaker or genaker halyard.

Juan de Zulueta
Ophelie X
SM#32
Envoyé de mon iPhone

Le 20 janv. 2021 à 10:56, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> a écrit :


Well, obviously Amel changed the mast top during the production of the SM to allow for a specific mounting for an external halyard. I am betting Mr. Amel resisted this addition.😀

This is another simple reminder, that although SMs look alike from the beginning of production until the last one produced, changes were made a lot more frequently than most of us realize. I try to remember when answering a question to include this statement in all answers.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 6:54 AM Jarek Zemlo via groups.io <noa_blue=protonmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
another picture from the front
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Jarek
NOA BLUE


Re: Fuel line exiting fuel tank

Bill Hall
 

It seems you can see and access the copper line where the hose attaches.  good luck!


On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 11:20 AM Thomas Kleman <lorient422@...> wrote:
Thanks for that insight Bill Hall. When you buy your Amel, I think you'll realize how valuable your answer was. The copper pipe runs under the starboard engine rail and is virtually invisible without removing the Yanmar's muffler and first 6 ft of exhaust hose. I was hoping someone who owns an Amel (like me) has spare fuel line and knows the measurement to save this effort.

Tom and Kirstin
SM2K 422
Oahu


Re: Fuel line exiting fuel tank

Thomas Kleman
 

Thanks for that insight Bill Hall. When you buy your Amel, I think you'll realize how valuable your answer was. The copper pipe runs under the starboard engine rail and is virtually invisible without removing the Yanmar's muffler and first 6 ft of exhaust hose. I was hoping someone who owns an Amel (like me) has spare fuel line and knows the measurement to save this effort.

Tom and Kirstin
SM2K 422
Oahu


Re: Where do you send the grey water from a washing machine?

Juan de Zulueta
 

Hello John,

On the Super Maramu the water of the washing machine goes into the bilge.
By the way the lye will help clean the bilge.

Juan de Zulueta
+33680895892
sent from my Ipad.
SM#32
Ophelie X

Le 20 janv. 2021 à 13:34, JB Duler <jbduler@...> a écrit :

Hello,

We are rebuilding the whole plumbing system.

1. For the washing machine, where do you send the grey water? In the bilge and then you pump it out? There is an used thruhull above the water line with a sea cock. Any of you sending the grey water above the water line. If you heel on the wrong you run the risk of sending sea water inside the washing machine. Not good. If you close the sea cock you run the risk of a memory lapse and running the washing machine through a closed sea cock. Not good either.
What is your setup?
2. Fresh water pump: is 6GPM, 60 PSI too much pressure?

Thks!
--
John Bernard "JB" Duler
San Francisco
Meltem # 19, Western Med


Re: SM spare halyard on main mast

Juan de Zulueta
 

Jarek,

I have the same mast head on my SM#32.
Using the hole at the front there is a big eye as per the picture attached on which you can put a block for a spinnaker or genaker halyard.

Juan de Zulueta
Ophelie X
SM#32
Envoyé de mon iPhone

Le 20 janv. 2021 à 10:56, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> a écrit :


Well, obviously Amel changed the mast top during the production of the SM to allow for a specific mounting for an external halyard. I am betting Mr. Amel resisted this addition.😀

This is another simple reminder, that although SMs look alike from the beginning of production until the last one produced, changes were made a lot more frequently than most of us realize. I try to remember when answering a question to include this statement in all answers.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 6:54 AM Jarek Zemlo via groups.io <noa_blue=protonmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
another picture from the front
<dummyfile.0.part>


Jarek
NOA BLUE


Where do you send the grey water from a washing machine?

JB Duler
 

Hello,

We are rebuilding the whole plumbing system.

1. For the washing machine, where do you send the grey water? In the bilge and then you pump it out? There is an used thruhull above the water line with a sea cock. Any of you sending the grey water above the water line. If you heel on the wrong you run the risk of sending sea water inside the washing machine. Not good. If you close the sea cock you run the risk of a memory lapse and running the washing machine through a closed sea cock. Not good either.
What is your setup?
2. Fresh water pump: is 6GPM, 60 PSI too much pressure?

Thks!
--
John Bernard "JB" Duler
San Francisco
Meltem # 19, Western Med


Re: Any SM owners use a Beta engine??

Dan Wilcox
 

i can take some pictures and measurements for you, and will also include mount models.  I'll run down to the boat today and send them tonight.

Thanks, Dan
Feierabend SM #86

On Wednesday, January 20, 2021, 05:19:30 AM PST, Mark Barter <markbarter100@...> wrote:


Hi Dan,

Sorry to resurrect this old topic but the installation didn't go well because the fitter failed to install new engine mounts meaning that we have excessive vibration and noise. I am going to have the mounts changed. 

What mounts did you end up using please? I can see they are different to the originals. Were you able to put them in the same place as the old mounts without alteration?

Thanks
Mark
--
Mark & Nicky Barter
S/V Nunky
SM 110


Re: Amel Yacht Owners Group YouTube Video Channel #ZOOM #IMPORTANT

Ceriolim
 

GREAT. THANKS
MAURIZIO

Il martedì 19 gennaio 2021, 20:25:52 CET, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> ha scritto:


All,

You can view any of our previous ZOOM meetings.

Here is a link to our YouTube channel which has all of our video meetings: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-ykjC22ewCUSqR34deZe0A
 
Here is a link to the meeting with Olivier Beaute on Amel Surveys: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c26xpu51mMY&t=1s

Here is an image of what you will see if you go to Amel Owners Group Monthly Zoom Meetings at https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLU9o3Ph9NZqHmMryjS9xbR6W8KuWYHuaV

--
 
Best,
 
CW Bill Rouse
Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970


Re: SM spare halyard on main mast

 

Well, obviously Amel changed the mast top during the production of the SM to allow for a specific mounting for an external halyard. I am betting Mr. Amel resisted this addition.😀

This is another simple reminder, that although SMs look alike from the beginning of production until the last one produced, changes were made a lot more frequently than most of us realize. I try to remember when answering a question to include this statement in all answers.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 6:54 AM Jarek Zemlo via groups.io <noa_blue=protonmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
another picture from the front


Jarek
NOA BLUE


Re: Any SM owners use a Beta engine??

Mark Barter
 

Hi Dan,

Sorry to resurrect this old topic but the installation didn't go well because the fitter failed to install new engine mounts meaning that we have excessive vibration and noise. I am going to have the mounts changed. 

What mounts did you end up using please? I can see they are different to the originals. Were you able to put them in the same place as the old mounts without alteration?

Thanks
Mark
--
Mark & Nicky Barter
S/V Nunky
SM 110


Re: SM spare halyard on main mast

Jarek Zemlo
 

another picture from the front


Jarek
NOA BLUE


Re: Fuel line exiting fuel tank

Bill Hall
 

Measure the diameter of the copper tube 

On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 8:29 PM Thomas Kleman <lorient422@...> wrote:
I'm looking for the inner diameter of the fuel line which exits the main tank. It's not marked on the hose. This hose runs about a foot out of the tank, then into a copper pipe along the starboard side of the engine, then the same size hose connects it to the racors. It's only markings assure me that it is 7840 A2 01 compliant, but no size is visible.

Tom and Kirstin

SM2K 422
Oahu











Re: SM spare halyard on main mast

Ian Park
 

Now
I reckon someone removed the spare halliards  to use the holes for the forward  aerial and the wind transducer. They seem to be occupying the places where my two halliards are located.

Ian

Ocean Hobo SN 96

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