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Re: ACMO Rigging

 

All, 

I locked this email thread because it violates posting rules, but I also contacted ACMO with the original poster's complaints about his rigging. The Amel Yacht Owners Group has this posting policy (in part): "Please refrain from criticism of persons or businesses in which you may have experienced unsatisfactory results, because it would be one-sided, without the ability of the other side to respond." I am sure we could argue the validity of this rule, but I believe it is one of the things that separate the Amel Yacht Owners Group from many other similar groups.
 
Please do not respond to this posting with further negative remarks about ACMO. If you believe that you have an issue with a purchase you made from ACMO, contact ACMO directly. ACMO has been an exceptional resource for many Amel owners. ACMO is the supplier of rigging to Amel and it is unusual that ACMO will deal directly with Amel owners. ACMO makes a quality product and if there is an issue, they have responded professionally.
 
And, BTW, I find it admirable that privately Laetitia Boudon said to me: 
"In your place, I would not have deleted this gentleman's post but try to help him, thank you, but I find it not the best solution :("

This was ACMO's complete response:
Hello Bill
I thank you for your feedback.
Do you know why the customer did not come to us to ask for help with this problem?

For cables:
It is very important that people understand that during the first months it is necessary to clean the cables with water and mild soap, because during the manufacture grease is used and the cleaning products are more environmentally friendly. When the cable is under tension, a little grease may come out and dust will stick to it! There is therefore appearance of this "rust" color which does not have any! You just have to scrub with a soft brush.

For the turnbuckles:
Do you know the place where the boat is "stowed"? According to my chromeur, the chlorine in the air can cause this problem, so I can change the turnbuckle cages for him.

For the axis:
I have no explanation for the moment. Can you have a photo of the axis side.


Do you think it's a good idea for me to talk to Mr. Mark Barter? I would like this client to contact me.

I will also contact SEANERGIE.

Thanks in advance.

Best regards
Laetitia Boudon

laetitia@....

 





--
 
Best,
 
CW Bill Rouse
Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970


locked Re: Rigging

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 
Edited

Hi Craig and Mark,
 
 We were rerigged in Hyeres about 4 years ago, ACMO turn buckles and wire direct from the German manufacturers.
 
 
 
Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Kilada, Greece
 


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Craig Briggs via groups.io <sangaris@...>
Sent: 29 January 2021 03:34
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Rigging
 
Mark Barter's "edited" post about his recently purchased ACMO rigging originally noted seemingly premature rusting of the wires and tarnished turnbuckles that could not be polished. I've had the same experience with my now 10 year old ACMO rigging and now that Mark mentions it, it did start seemingly early on but I dismissed that as normal. The turnbuckles, of course, are chromed bronze, not stainless, and, yes, the finish on mine, too, seemed to become dull quickly (a year or two)  and will not take a polish.

Mark went a bit overboard by stating things in a way that seem disparaging to a "favored" Amel vendor when he said he presumes "substandard stainless steel was used".  I strongly doubt that is the case as ACMO has been the factory supplier for years, but I think his concerns about the cosmetics are legitimate and I share his curiosity as to whether other owners have had similar experience, and/or a remedy.  I do take my favorite muriatic acid to the shrouds now and then and it does a great job of clearing the rust stains, but the turnbuckles remain a bit dingy and do not polish well.

Here's Mark's unedited post (without the pictures he notes). I don't know why but there was a link to this original when I read the post. 
In December 2019 we had our standing rigging replaced by Seanergie in Hyeres.They used ACMO rigging and WDS wire. I have attached some photos taken a week ago. As you will see the rigging is badly tarnished and rusting in places. The bottle screws won't polish. I can only presume that seriously sub standard stainless steel has been used because the guard rails which are 28 years old are still gleaming. Has anybody else experienced this problem with ACMO rigging?--Mark & Nicky BarterS/V NunkySM 110
Cheers, Craig --
SN68 Sangaris, Tropic Isle Harbor, FL


locked Rigging

Craig Briggs
 
Edited

Mark Barter's "edited" post about his recently purchased ACMO rigging originally noted 


Cheers, Craig --
SN68 Sangaris, Tropic Isle Harbor, FL


ACMO Rigging

Mark Barter
 
Edited

In December 2019 we had our standing rigging replaced by Seanergie in Hyeres.

They used ACMO rigging and WDS wire.


--
Mark & Nicky Barter
S/V Nunky
SM 110


Re: The maintenance fuel bladders

Scott SV Tengah
 

Thomas,

Can't help ya on maintaining the fuel bladder, but I can give you our experience on the Hawaii-Tahiti passage.

It sucked.

Our 31 day 4848 nm passage from Panama to Hawaii was much much easier. And this one was only a bit more than half the distance.

More detail: We left from Maui and went leeward of Big Island. Alenuihaha channel delivered on its threats and we got 40+ knots right when we hit the wind line. Leeward of B.I. is a confused swelly mess with little wind. We stayed close to shore to take advantage of the little sea/land breeze, but we motored a good 8 hours on that side, I think. Friends who went further offshore in the lee hated life even more.

As you know, Mie had some visa extension uncertainty so we had to leave Hawaii by a certain date. First tip is time departure for a northerly and shoot east. Try to go windward of all the islands. When they say you should focus on making easting, you should really take it to heart, especially early in the passage. As you know, current and wind are kind of against you and only gets worse. Second tip: download the RTOFS models in the highest resolution possible, for the entire passage, before you leave. You can get updates via satellite/ssb along the way for smaller areas, but the overall pattern didn't change too much during our passage. There are a few eddies as you near the ITCZ that will help you immensely if you can get to them. Speaking of which, once we passed the ICTZ, we got winds from due south, so we shot straight east. 

We crossed the equator at 144W. That makes life easier once you hit the South Pacific trades.

We used around 200 liters fuel total, I think. We only run our genset for an hour every 2.5-3 days or so while sailing, but I think with your wind gen and prevailing winds forward of the beam, you'll be using your genset as little or even less than we did. Do what makes you feel comfortable re: carrying fuel but I think you'll be using less fuel than you think.

Good luck and aside from the less than pleasant sail down, FP is definitely worth the effort and IMO is better than Hawaii in many ways. We are at the Papeete airport on the way out now, but will be back in 3 months. Hope to see you guys then!

Sorry for the thread drift, but hope this info makes your passage a little easier than ours.

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: Machine shop in Tahiti

Scott SV Tengah
 

Have you friend reach out to me and I can set him up with the Russian. That guy is cheap and knows the lay of the land. 

He can also look up the Societies compendium written by fellow cruisers. A few companies listed there. There's a local who lived in NZ for many years and speaks great English. Haven't used him but hear good things. He's in the doc. 

Technimarine could maybe do it but $$$$$ and you might not get what you pay for. 
--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: Machine shop in Tahiti

Porter McRoberts
 

There is plenty of support there. You can buy all the replacement seals and bearings at Tahiti Roulement. And plenty of folks who can help. Scott, have the number of your Russian engineer?  


Porter McRoberts 
S/V IBIS 
A54-152

On Jan 27, 2021, at 1:03 PM, Mike Longcor (SV Trilogy) <svtrilogy53@...> wrote:

Hello Everybody,

Can anyone recommend a good machine shop in Pape'ete for rebuilding the outhaul gearbox? Has anyone had this done in Tahiti before? The bronze worm gear has likely been sheared by the steel worm. The unit is a Leroy Somer.

Asking for a friend who is currently on passage from NZ to Tahiti on a Super Maramu.

Cheers,
Mike Longcor
SV Trilogy SM23
Opua, NZ


Machine shop in Tahiti

Mike Longcor (SV Trilogy)
 

Hello Everybody,

Can anyone recommend a good machine shop in Pape'ete for rebuilding the outhaul gearbox? Has anyone had this done in Tahiti before? The bronze worm gear has likely been sheared by the steel worm. The unit is a Leroy Somer.

Asking for a friend who is currently on passage from NZ to Tahiti on a Super Maramu.

Cheers,
Mike Longcor
SV Trilogy SM23
Opua, NZ


Re: Amel 55 Webasto install

Billy Newport
 

Found 2 things this morning. The light for the heater indicator in the engine room is an normal bulb and was blown hence no flashing.

The burner on the webasto was seriously burned up and coked. The unit doesn't look like it's been serviced since factory and I put 3 months on it up to this week or 2k hours. You are supposed to clean the burner every 1000-1500 hours so this isn't unexpected at this point. New burner is 500 USD more or less.


Amel 55 Webasto install

Billy Newport
 

My Webasto is acting up and stopping during operation. Normally, there would be a switch with on/off and a LED to indicate fault codes. There is also a fuse block with a F1 (20A), F2 (5A) and a F3 (20A).

Amel custom installs this heater so there is no "normal" switch and no normal fuse block. There is a heater start/stop on the DC breaker panel by the nav table. This normally starts/stops it. There is on a box on the fwd bulk head in the engine room a white box with bilge/inverter/heater breakers. If the panel is removed then there is also 2 x 2A fuses seemingly attached to the harness from the webasto.

My question is how is this all wired up? Is the breaker in the engine room the normal switch? Are the 2 2A fuses F1/F2/F3 or something else? The amel manual doesn't really cover this much.

The LED in the engine room does not flash in my case to indicate the fault code. The heater was running 24/7 for about 2.5 months before it stopped while I was away and I have managed to get it to run twice since returning but it shuts down again with no code after 10-18 hours of normal operation.

When I got the boat, the pressure guage for the heater was 0 bar. I added water to the circuit, bringing it up to 1 bar and when it ran, the pressure rose to just under 1.5 bar.

When I returned this weekend after it stopped, I noticed the cold pressure was back to 0 again. I recharged it to 1 bar and the heater worked later that night but not when I recharged it.

When it stopped today, the pressure was still normal (1.4 bar hot).

Without the code, it's hard to get any remote help. I cannot get out of lock mode (when it stopped with a fault) without knowing where F1/F2/F3 are.

Any help appreciated.


Re: Hardtop for Amel 54 and SM

VICTOR MOLERO
 

Hello all.
I am interested. Of course it depends on price and design.
Thanks.
Victor  
SM314 Alendoy


looking for a good friend a Super Maramu

jlm@jlmertz.fr
 

Hello,
I'm looking for a good friend who just sold his boat a Super Maramu or Super Maramu 2000.
If you know of someone who sells their boat, please let me know.
Best regards
Jean Luc MERTZ
CottonBay
Agde France
00 33 663 393 174
SM 316


Re: Hardtop for Amel 54 and SM

Paul Osterberg
 

I'm also interested in a hard top, Might be a project for next off season, if anyone have ideas or photos please let us know
Paul on SY Kerpa SM#259, Lagos Portugal


Re: Hardtop for Amel 54 and SM

Dimitris Krasopoulos
 

I agree if the shipment is from Europe to avoid taxes and custom

D Krasopoulos
Amel 54

Στάλθηκε από το iPhone of Dimitris Krasopoulos 

On 26 Jan 2021, at 11:29, Philippe Chatton <chattonp960@...> wrote:


Hi everyone
I noticed that several SM owners seem to have an interest in a hard top - including myself.
At one point in time we might consider a group order, assuming we can identify a model / manufacturer, and should an interest be confirmed.  
Kind regards
Philippe
S/V Chameleon - Antibes FR
 

Le lun. 25 janv. 2021 à 21:54, Annsofie & Jonas Svanberg <ann-sofie@...> a écrit :
Hi Mohammed
I have got some requests for more pictures. I will put a .pdf together showing it. Just give me a day or two.

The original roof is made by a friend if us and is a sandwich construction with divinycell inbetween the GRP.

Regards
Ann-Sofie
S/Y Lady Annila
SM 232, 1998
Present in Algarve, Portugal 


Skickat från min iPhone

25/01/2021 kl. 19:17 skrev Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...>:



Hello Halsinger;

 

Nice looking hard top. Do you have more pictures and/or videos that show more detail?

 

Where did you have this top fabricated?

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Annsofie & Jonas Svanberg via groups.io
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2021 10:51 AM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Hardtop for Amel 54

 

Here is our hard top on S/Y Lady Annila, SM 232.

 

It has been there since 2010 and during 2020 we hade it renovated. On top we have 2 solar panels 364 W each. (And an orher three on the arch)


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Hälsningar

Ann-Sofie 

S/Y Lady Annila

SM 232, 1998

 

 

Skickat från min iPhone



25/01/2021 kl. 17:36 skrev VICTOR MOLERO <victor.moleroxx@...>:



Congratulations! I love it!

Do you, or anyone, know if the solution is feasible for a Super Maramu 2000? Any idea about the cost?

It's a wonderful improvement, very well thought out.

Thanks for sharing.

Victor 

SM314 Alendoy


Re: Hardtop for Amel 54 and SM

Philippe Chatton
 

Hi everyone
I noticed that several SM owners seem to have an interest in a hard top - including myself.
At one point in time we might consider a group order, assuming we can identify a model / manufacturer, and should an interest be confirmed.  
Kind regards
Philippe
S/V Chameleon - Antibes FR
 

Le lun. 25 janv. 2021 à 21:54, Annsofie & Jonas Svanberg <ann-sofie@...> a écrit :
Hi Mohammed
I have got some requests for more pictures. I will put a .pdf together showing it. Just give me a day or two.

The original roof is made by a friend if us and is a sandwich construction with divinycell inbetween the GRP.

Regards
Ann-Sofie
S/Y Lady Annila
SM 232, 1998
Present in Algarve, Portugal 


Skickat från min iPhone

25/01/2021 kl. 19:17 skrev Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...>:



Hello Halsinger;

 

Nice looking hard top. Do you have more pictures and/or videos that show more detail?

 

Where did you have this top fabricated?

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Annsofie & Jonas Svanberg via groups.io
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2021 10:51 AM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Hardtop for Amel 54

 

Here is our hard top on S/Y Lady Annila, SM 232.

 

It has been there since 2010 and during 2020 we hade it renovated. On top we have 2 solar panels 364 W each. (And an orher three on the arch)


<image001.jpg>

Hälsningar

Ann-Sofie 

S/Y Lady Annila

SM 232, 1998

 

 

Skickat från min iPhone



25/01/2021 kl. 17:36 skrev VICTOR MOLERO <victor.moleroxx@...>:



Congratulations! I love it!

Do you, or anyone, know if the solution is feasible for a Super Maramu 2000? Any idea about the cost?

It's a wonderful improvement, very well thought out.

Thanks for sharing.

Victor 

SM314 Alendoy


Re: Webasto thermopro question

Peter Tiner
 

Hi

i run the Webasto from remote over gsm. Boat is in the water some 500km away in Sweden. It gets cold now and then so i use it if the radiators should not be sufficient. You can can find the swedish supplier here : https://gsm-start.se/en/
Attaching some pics showing possibilities.

\Peter @ SY Maiken A54 #52


Re: Hardtop for Amel 54

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Hi Ann-Sofie;

 

That’s great, thank you.

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Annsofie & Jonas Svanberg via groups.io
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2021 12:38 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Hardtop for Amel 54

 

Hi Mohammed

I have got some requests for more pictures. I will put a .pdf together showing it. Just give me a day or two.

 

The original roof is made by a friend if us and is a sandwich construction with divinycell inbetween the GRP.

Regards

Ann-Sofie

S/Y Lady Annila

SM 232, 1998

Present in Algarve, Portugal 

 

 

Skickat från min iPhone



25/01/2021 kl. 19:17 skrev Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...>:



Hello Halsinger;

 

Nice looking hard top. Do you have more pictures and/or videos that show more detail?

 

Where did you have this top fabricated?

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Annsofie & Jonas Svanberg via groups.io
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2021 10:51 AM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Hardtop for Amel 54

 

Here is our hard top on S/Y Lady Annila, SM 232.

 

It has been there since 2010 and during 2020 we hade it renovated. On top we have 2 solar panels 364 W each. (And an orher three on the arch)

 

<image001.jpg>

Hälsningar

Ann-Sofie 

S/Y Lady Annila

SM 232, 1998

 

 

Skickat från min iPhone




25/01/2021 kl. 17:36 skrev VICTOR MOLERO <victor.moleroxx@...>:



Congratulations! I love it!

Do you, or anyone, know if the solution is feasible for a Super Maramu 2000? Any idea about the cost?

It's a wonderful improvement, very well thought out.

Thanks for sharing.

Victor 

SM314 Alendoy


Re: Hardtop for Amel 54

VICTOR MOLERO
 

Thank you Ann Sophie.
I will appreciate more pictures, if you have them available and willing to share.
Thanks.
Victor 
SM314 Alendoy


Re: Hardtop for Amel 54

Ann-Sofie, S/Y Lady Annila
 

Hi Mohammed
I have got some requests for more pictures. I will put a .pdf together showing it. Just give me a day or two.

The original roof is made by a friend if us and is a sandwich construction with divinycell inbetween the GRP.

Regards
Ann-Sofie
S/Y Lady Annila
SM 232, 1998
Present in Algarve, Portugal 


Skickat från min iPhone

25/01/2021 kl. 19:17 skrev Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...>:



Hello Halsinger;

 

Nice looking hard top. Do you have more pictures and/or videos that show more detail?

 

Where did you have this top fabricated?

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Annsofie & Jonas Svanberg via groups.io
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2021 10:51 AM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Hardtop for Amel 54

 

Here is our hard top on S/Y Lady Annila, SM 232.

 

It has been there since 2010 and during 2020 we hade it renovated. On top we have 2 solar panels 364 W each. (And an orher three on the arch)


<image001.jpg>

Hälsningar

Ann-Sofie 

S/Y Lady Annila

SM 232, 1998

 

 

Skickat från min iPhone



25/01/2021 kl. 17:36 skrev VICTOR MOLERO <victor.moleroxx@...>:



Congratulations! I love it!

Do you, or anyone, know if the solution is feasible for a Super Maramu 2000? Any idea about the cost?

It's a wonderful improvement, very well thought out.

Thanks for sharing.

Victor 

SM314 Alendoy


Re: Hardtop for Amel 54

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Hello Halsinger;

 

Nice looking hard top. Do you have more pictures and/or videos that show more detail?

 

Where did you have this top fabricated?

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Annsofie & Jonas Svanberg via groups.io
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2021 10:51 AM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Hardtop for Amel 54

 

Here is our hard top on S/Y Lady Annila, SM 232.

 

It has been there since 2010 and during 2020 we hade it renovated. On top we have 2 solar panels 364 W each. (And an orher three on the arch)


Hälsningar

Ann-Sofie 

S/Y Lady Annila

SM 232, 1998

 

 

Skickat från min iPhone



25/01/2021 kl. 17:36 skrev VICTOR MOLERO <victor.moleroxx@...>:



Congratulations! I love it!

Do you, or anyone, know if the solution is feasible for a Super Maramu 2000? Any idea about the cost?

It's a wonderful improvement, very well thought out.

Thanks for sharing.

Victor 

SM314 Alendoy

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