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Re: Parasailor on A54

Porter McRoberts
 

Awesome description and setup Scott. Thank you. I think we will change a bit of how we set up our asymmetric based on your tips. And agree, the soft shackles are super helpful as well as a lot of blocks and fairleads 

Appreciated 

Porter McRoberts 
S/V IBIS A54-152 Rangiroa
WhatsApp:+1 754 265 2206
Www.fouribis.net

On Feb 15, 2021, at 8:04 AM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:


If anyone wants to buy one for a deep discount from the original price, contact Dimitris Krasopoulos <dkrasopoulos"at"gmail.com>. The last time I talked to him, he wanted to sell his ParaSailor, used only a few times.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 12:00 PM Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...> wrote:
Stefan,

We do like it. - the size seems to be about right. We can sail at windspeeds where before, the motor would definitely come on. On the other end, we had a situation at night in an area with low forecasted CAPE and of course a squall hit and we saw over 30 knots apparent.I made the decision to just keep the parasailor up rather than risk crew going forward to try to wrestle it down. No damage or difficulty steering whatever. We just flew along at 9-10 knots.

The motion is MUCH improved over the wing on wing setup. The only downside is setting it up can be more work than the wing on wing. I just bought the ATN tacker and will try that out next time we fly it. Joerg seems to love the ATN, so I have high hopes.



On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 2:31 PM Stefan Schaufert <mail@...> wrote:
Hi Scott,

regarding the size of your Parasailor.
Are you satisfied with it? Or do you recommend different size?

Btw, the little welded loops far forward on the life rails, circled in blue, are - on my opinion - for connecting a belt as a safety element for the seat / your wife :-) / not falling out forward.
Mine made a kind of webbing for it - see attached.

Best regards
Stefan
A541#119 Lady Charlyette, currently Exumas

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--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: Climma Air Conditioning from shore power

Andrew & Kate Lamb
 

Hi Peter

Is you boat 230v circuit and generator a 50hz system?

Andrew
SM472
Canet-en-roussillon


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of eric freedman <kimberlite@...>
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 8:29:26 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Climma Air Conditioning from shore power
 

Hello Peter,

Would you be so kind as to send me this wiring diagram as a JPG.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Peter de Groot
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2021 5:44 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Climma Air Conditioning from shore power

 



Greetings,
I’m hoping someone has run into this before, and can shed some light.  I have the feeling the answer is staring me right in the face and I just can’t see it.

For 3 years of owning la Querida SM#207 I’ve always run the heaters and Air Conditioning from generator power.  The marina where I was berthed only offered a 30A 120VAC circuit.  Now that we’re in Mexico, we’ve had occasion to run the water heater and Air Conditioning from shore power.  It has not gone well.  Upon plugging into shore power the breaker on the side of the 220VAC load center in the galley immediately tripped.  Mind you this is North American 220(230) VAC with two hot legs and no neutral.  Together with an electrician we found the offending circuit and disconnected the blue (normally neutral) wire and all circuits worked except the Climma air conditioning.  Restoring that connection A to B in the diagram above, the Air conditioning works being powered from the generator.  However the main breaker trips immediately when connected to shore power.  Power feed “1” comes off the main power distribution, no circuit separate circuit breaker.  Power feed “2” comes off the “Climma” individual breaker on the Amel Panel.

Measuring voltage from “B” to a brown junction point reads 125VAC.  From “B” to a blue wire junction point (normally neutral) also reads about 125 VAC.  “B” to ground is open.

The electrician did his work three ports ago (and we were sailing the next day) when our priority was to get the hot water heater to work without bothering the neighbors with generator noise and exhaust.  Now our priority is getting the air conditioning working from shore power.  We’re much further south and the cabin is a sauna most evenings.  The previous owner was on board for a week in Zihuatenejo and reiterated he was able to run all circuits (including the air conditioning) from shore power.  He also did his cruising in Mexico with 2 hot leg 230VAC power.

Any tips or similar past experience/solutions would be welcome.

Peter de Groot
la Querida, SM#207
now in Barra de Navidad
(just back from Ixtapa where the mosquitoes forced us to close the hatches making the problem worse)


Re: Climma Air Conditioning from shore power

eric freedman
 

Hello Peter,

Would you be so kind as to send me this wiring diagram as a JPG.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Peter de Groot
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2021 5:44 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Climma Air Conditioning from shore power

 



Greetings,
I’m hoping someone has run into this before, and can shed some light.  I have the feeling the answer is staring me right in the face and I just can’t see it.

For 3 years of owning la Querida SM#207 I’ve always run the heaters and Air Conditioning from generator power.  The marina where I was berthed only offered a 30A 120VAC circuit.  Now that we’re in Mexico, we’ve had occasion to run the water heater and Air Conditioning from shore power.  It has not gone well.  Upon plugging into shore power the breaker on the side of the 220VAC load center in the galley immediately tripped.  Mind you this is North American 220(230) VAC with two hot legs and no neutral.  Together with an electrician we found the offending circuit and disconnected the blue (normally neutral) wire and all circuits worked except the Climma air conditioning.  Restoring that connection A to B in the diagram above, the Air conditioning works being powered from the generator.  However the main breaker trips immediately when connected to shore power.  Power feed “1” comes off the main power distribution, no circuit separate circuit breaker.  Power feed “2” comes off the “Climma” individual breaker on the Amel Panel.

Measuring voltage from “B” to a brown junction point reads 125VAC.  From “B” to a blue wire junction point (normally neutral) also reads about 125 VAC.  “B” to ground is open.

The electrician did his work three ports ago (and we were sailing the next day) when our priority was to get the hot water heater to work without bothering the neighbors with generator noise and exhaust.  Now our priority is getting the air conditioning working from shore power.  We’re much further south and the cabin is a sauna most evenings.  The previous owner was on board for a week in Zihuatenejo and reiterated he was able to run all circuits (including the air conditioning) from shore power.  He also did his cruising in Mexico with 2 hot leg 230VAC power.

Any tips or similar past experience/solutions would be welcome.

Peter de Groot
la Querida, SM#207
now in Barra de Navidad
(just back from Ixtapa where the mosquitoes forced us to close the hatches making the problem worse)


Re: Parasailor on A54

Wolfgang Weber <webercardio@...>
 

Hello to the group,
This is the recommendation for my Amel 54 which I received last  year from Sven Mohr /Oxley sail :

Levante 18.50 mit dem 18m Twinlinesnuffer
Or
Bora 18.70 mit 19m Twinlinesnuffer .
You may download dimension and price list.
The other company is ISTEC ( first on market ) with Thomas Wibberenz.
They both made for our club an amazing zoom meeting for the TRANS-OCEAN.org .
Perhaps we should ask them for a meeting with the Amel group.
Sorry, there is no youtube or recording of this meeting.
Wolfgang Weber SY Elise Amel 54 #162




Re: AMEL Group Insurance -- Update?

Jose Venegas
 

Bill
I am also looking for insurance
Currently in Cartagena but planning to make it to the Pacific this or next year
Please pot me in the list

José Venegas
Ipanema SM2000 278


Re: Parasailor on A54

 

If anyone wants to buy one for a deep discount from the original price, contact Dimitris Krasopoulos <dkrasopoulos"at"gmail.com>. The last time I talked to him, he wanted to sell his ParaSailor, used only a few times.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 12:00 PM Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...> wrote:
Stefan,

We do like it. - the size seems to be about right. We can sail at windspeeds where before, the motor would definitely come on. On the other end, we had a situation at night in an area with low forecasted CAPE and of course a squall hit and we saw over 30 knots apparent.I made the decision to just keep the parasailor up rather than risk crew going forward to try to wrestle it down. No damage or difficulty steering whatever. We just flew along at 9-10 knots.

The motion is MUCH improved over the wing on wing setup. The only downside is setting it up can be more work than the wing on wing. I just bought the ATN tacker and will try that out next time we fly it. Joerg seems to love the ATN, so I have high hopes.



On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 2:31 PM Stefan Schaufert <mail@...> wrote:
Hi Scott,

regarding the size of your Parasailor.
Are you satisfied with it? Or do you recommend different size?

Btw, the little welded loops far forward on the life rails, circled in blue, are - on my opinion - for connecting a belt as a safety element for the seat / your wife :-) / not falling out forward.
Mine made a kind of webbing for it - see attached.

Best regards
Stefan
A541#119 Lady Charlyette, currently Exumas



--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: Parasailor on A54

Scott SV Tengah
 

Stefan,

We do like it. - the size seems to be about right. We can sail at windspeeds where before, the motor would definitely come on. On the other end, we had a situation at night in an area with low forecasted CAPE and of course a squall hit and we saw over 30 knots apparent.I made the decision to just keep the parasailor up rather than risk crew going forward to try to wrestle it down. No damage or difficulty steering whatever. We just flew along at 9-10 knots.

The motion is MUCH improved over the wing on wing setup. The only downside is setting it up can be more work than the wing on wing. I just bought the ATN tacker and will try that out next time we fly it. Joerg seems to love the ATN, so I have high hopes.



On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 2:31 PM Stefan Schaufert <mail@...> wrote:
Hi Scott,

regarding the size of your Parasailor.
Are you satisfied with it? Or do you recommend different size?

Btw, the little welded loops far forward on the life rails, circled in blue, are - on my opinion - for connecting a belt as a safety element for the seat / your wife :-) / not falling out forward.
Mine made a kind of webbing for it - see attached.

Best regards
Stefan
A541#119 Lady Charlyette, currently Exumas



--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: AMEL Group Insurance -- Update?

karkauai
 

There is a small group of us that are looking at group insurance options again. We have a group member now who has experience with this who is taking the lead.  Rather than get everyobe involved now, we are going to see what we can put together first, then present it to the group. A new poll should be going out in the near future, I hope everyone will complete it so we have a good understanding of what interest there is, and what owners are looking for.
--
Kent & Iris
KRISTY
SM243


Re: Curtain Sizes for SM2000

Denise McGovern
 

The curtains on the latter model SMs was a blue and yellow stripe with a UV backing.  Ours faded, likely from washing by a previous owner because they were slightly shrunk too.   I used an outdoor fabric because I liked it and backed it with Roc-Lon blackout liner.

If you make your own replacements, I recommend you follow your own measurements and don't use the old ones as a template (because of the above mentioned shrinking).  I would also checkout some of the new fabrics that are blackout built-in so no need to line.

Photo is from our cabin and yes, I like the crazy fabric, it's a bit dark back there.

Denise
Super Maramu #440
Deale, MD, USA


Re: Curtain Sizes for SM2000

 

Kathy has SM2k drapery which is a cotton print with an expected life of 10-12 years. That cotton print is no longer available because cotton prints have a design lifetime of 1-2 years, then replaced with something new by the manufacturer. The cotton print was preceded with a Woven Draylon Velvet which will likely last 100 years.😀

Karen is correct. Making these draperies is very straightforward and I believe almost anyone with a simple sewing machine can make them. Use UV Blackout liner fabric.

CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 10:43 AM Karen Smith via groups.io <karenharmonie=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Kathy,

The face fabric for the curtains on our SM Harmonie are the original synthetic velour-like upholstery fabric that Amel used throughout the interior.  The curtains are a very simple construction of fabric inside, with a UV proof lining facing the window hemmed around the edges.  After 25 years of sun exposure several of the linings had disintegrated.  We simply ripped the seams along the edges and replaced it.  Looks like new.

Bill & Karen
SM160, Harmonie
Charleston, SC, USA


Re: Curtain Sizes for SM2000

Karen Smith
 

Kathy,

The face fabric for the curtains on our SM Harmonie are the original synthetic velour-like upholstery fabric that Amel used throughout the interior.  The curtains are a very simple construction of fabric inside, with a UV proof lining facing the window hemmed around the edges.  After 25 years of sun exposure several of the linings had disintegrated.  We simply ripped the seams along the edges and replaced it.  Looks like new.

Bill & Karen
SM160, Harmonie
Charleston, SC, USA


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] electrolysis on jib furling gearbox? [1 Attachment]

rossirossix4
 

We use the Shoresafe galvanic insulator and it is mounted in the engine room just before the automatic shorepower/generator switch (do not connect after this point because the ground connection of that switch is connected to everything that is 220 and it is not switched.

The Shoresafe product is 1)relatively inexpensive  2)has extra reserve amperage capacity and high quality 3)has an external monitor that indicates both AC and DC leakage and 4)the company will respond quickly and thoroughly to issues or questions.  If you read their material you will see that it is well thought out.  Once we started using the product our zinc usage decline dramatically.

The external monitor can be mounted on the side of the "white 220v box" so you can immediately check for a leak when connecting to shore power (vs having to go into the engine room).

https://www.safeshoremarine.com/products/

Bob,  KAIMI SM429


Re: Parasailor on A54

Stefan Schaufert
 

Hi Joerg and the other Amelians,

regarding your Parasailor/ Oxley.
Which size is yours?
Are you satisfied with it? Or do you recommend different size?

Best regards
Stefan
A541#119 Lady Charlyette, currently Exumas


Re: Parasailor on A54

Stefan Schaufert
 

Hi Scott,

regarding the size of your Parasailor.
Are you satisfied with it? Or do you recommend different size?

Btw, the little welded loops far forward on the life rails, circled in blue, are - on my opinion - for connecting a belt as a safety element for the seat / your wife :-) / not falling out forward.
Mine made a kind of webbing for it - see attached.

Best regards
Stefan
A541#119 Lady Charlyette, currently Exumas



Re: Forward Looking Sonar

 

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CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 6:35 AM Nick Fowle SM 404 Rascal via groups.io <svrascal=protonmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Ken,

many thanks for this, super helpful as usual...

Will leave the Beneteau comment well alone...🙈

Hope you are both well

Nick
SV Rascal SM 404


Re: Forward Looking Sonar

Nick Fowle SM 404 Rascal
 

Ken,

many thanks for this, super helpful as usual...

Will leave the Beneteau comment well alone...🙈

Hope you are both well

Nick
SV Rascal SM 404


Re: BILGE WATER PUMP #replacement

Giovanni TESTA
 

Hi Alan& Ross,
many thanks for your suggestions.
Ross and Donna, where are you in Turkey ?
All the best
Giovanni Testa
 sv Eutikia
https://www.youtube.com/user/eutikia1

Il 15/02/2021 00:07, Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond via groups.io ha scritto:
Hi Giovanni,

Another option you may consider is the TF Marine bilge pump we purchased from TF Marine in May last year. TF Marine has now been taken over by Gianeschi.

I have attached photos of the pump. 

Kind regards
Ross and Donna
SV Intrepid Kiwi
SM2K #356
Currently in Turkey







Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad

On Sunday, February 14, 2021, 1:01 pm, Giovanni TESTA <giovannitesta53@...> wrote:

Hi Alan,
may I have please a photo of the position/installation connections ?
many thanks
Cheers
Giovanni Testa
sv Eutikia SM 428

Il 13/02/2021 23:33, Alan Leslie ha scritto:
Hi Victor,

Our AMFA pump fell to bits years ago
I replaced it with a Johnson Viking 32 pump


The pumps and spare parts are available everywhere.
It is a very good pump.

Cheers

Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: Forward Looking Sonar

Ken Powers SV Aquarius
 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOQeR_3fQcE&t=7s

Hello Nick,

This video shows the placement of the transducer, from the outside while Aquarius was on the hard, and video from the inside of Aquarius.   You need to build up the fiberglass where you plan to install the transducer.  Should not be difficult, and fairly cheap.  Then drill and install the through hole.  I would install the display in the same location as on Aquarius.  This was installed before I bought Aquarius, so I can not take credit,  but I have found the placement of the display perfect!  Running the transducer cable through the boat take about 1 hour with two people.  Had to do this because I hit a log in Columbia and this cracked my transducer.   I felt blind without my EchoPilot.

Some have said that the forward looking sonar is worthless because you can't see more than a boat length in less than 4 meters of water.    When I have 4 meters of water under Aquarius, I can see out about 40 meters.  When it gets really shallow, 2.5M, I can usually see about 30 meters.  And this information is priceless in those situations.  And for those Amel Owners that want to go 6 knots in 2.5 meters of water....  Buy a boat that is better suited for this task..  A    Beneteau.  Sorry Beneteau owners, but there are so many Beneteau's, 1 missing won't be a big deal.  We have a very limited amount of Amel's and we need to keep our fleet safe and sound.

Ken Powers
Aquarius SM2K#262


Re: Watermaker #photo-notice

Karen Smith
 

These gauges might be filled with either glycerine, mineral oil, or food grade silicone oil.  Basically, something inert, that if it leaks into the water side of the gauge will not be toxic.  If the "oil" in the gauge dissolves in water--it is glycerine.  I can't think off hand of a quick and easy test to differentiate mineral oil from silicone oil.  

My preference for a watermaker pressure gauge would definitely be glycerine.  Mineral oil and silicone oil would destroy the membranes if they ever leaked into the water side even if they did not poison the resulting drinking water.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Charleston, SC, USA


Re: AMEL Group Insurance -- Update?

william reynolds
 

Insurance
My insurance broker recently  informed me that  they would no longer cover any sailing vessels in the Caribbean, After much discussion with other cruisers and soliciting  bids for coverage I could not find  acceptable coverage. I was in Grenada at the time and another cruiser had just gotten coverage from a little known company there.
The company is Netherlands Ins. Ltd. Based in Grenada with offices in the Netherlands. They don't advertise much but do have an ad in the Caribbean Compass. They have only recently started covering cruising boats and don't have the history of massive hurricane losses. Their main business is large cargo vessels. They are the insurers (carriers) not a broker.'
They are slightly more expensive BUT some of the good points are - No depreciation when replacing or repairing, they cover all arbitration and legal fees in damage matters, they cover lighting strike damage, their deductable is 2% for normal damage and 4% for named storm damage and the real kicker is your cruising limits are worldwide! No limits during named storm season. Contact me if you want more details of my coverage.
Bill Reynolds
S/V Cloudstreet SM2K 331

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