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Re: Curtain Sizes for SM2000

Karen Smith
 

Kathy,

The face fabric for the curtains on our SM Harmonie are the original synthetic velour-like upholstery fabric that Amel used throughout the interior.  The curtains are a very simple construction of fabric inside, with a UV proof lining facing the window hemmed around the edges.  After 25 years of sun exposure several of the linings had disintegrated.  We simply ripped the seams along the edges and replaced it.  Looks like new.

Bill & Karen
SM160, Harmonie
Charleston, SC, USA


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] electrolysis on jib furling gearbox? [1 Attachment]

rossirossix4
 

We use the Shoresafe galvanic insulator and it is mounted in the engine room just before the automatic shorepower/generator switch (do not connect after this point because the ground connection of that switch is connected to everything that is 220 and it is not switched.

The Shoresafe product is 1)relatively inexpensive  2)has extra reserve amperage capacity and high quality 3)has an external monitor that indicates both AC and DC leakage and 4)the company will respond quickly and thoroughly to issues or questions.  If you read their material you will see that it is well thought out.  Once we started using the product our zinc usage decline dramatically.

The external monitor can be mounted on the side of the "white 220v box" so you can immediately check for a leak when connecting to shore power (vs having to go into the engine room).

https://www.safeshoremarine.com/products/

Bob,  KAIMI SM429


Re: Parasailor on A54

Stefan Schaufert
 

Hi Joerg and the other Amelians,

regarding your Parasailor/ Oxley.
Which size is yours?
Are you satisfied with it? Or do you recommend different size?

Best regards
Stefan
A541#119 Lady Charlyette, currently Exumas


Re: Parasailor on A54

Stefan Schaufert
 

Hi Scott,

regarding the size of your Parasailor.
Are you satisfied with it? Or do you recommend different size?

Btw, the little welded loops far forward on the life rails, circled in blue, are - on my opinion - for connecting a belt as a safety element for the seat / your wife :-) / not falling out forward.
Mine made a kind of webbing for it - see attached.

Best regards
Stefan
A541#119 Lady Charlyette, currently Exumas



Re: Forward Looking Sonar

 

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On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 6:35 AM Nick Fowle SM 404 Rascal via groups.io <svrascal=protonmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Ken,

many thanks for this, super helpful as usual...

Will leave the Beneteau comment well alone...🙈

Hope you are both well

Nick
SV Rascal SM 404


Re: Forward Looking Sonar

Nick Fowle SM 404 Rascal <svrascal@...>
 

Ken,

many thanks for this, super helpful as usual...

Will leave the Beneteau comment well alone...🙈

Hope you are both well

Nick
SV Rascal SM 404


Re: BILGE WATER PUMP #replacement

Giovanni TESTA
 

Hi Alan& Ross,
many thanks for your suggestions.
Ross and Donna, where are you in Turkey ?
All the best
Giovanni Testa
 sv Eutikia
https://www.youtube.com/user/eutikia1

Il 15/02/2021 00:07, Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond via groups.io ha scritto:
Hi Giovanni,

Another option you may consider is the TF Marine bilge pump we purchased from TF Marine in May last year. TF Marine has now been taken over by Gianeschi.

I have attached photos of the pump. 

Kind regards
Ross and Donna
SV Intrepid Kiwi
SM2K #356
Currently in Turkey







Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad

On Sunday, February 14, 2021, 1:01 pm, Giovanni TESTA <giovannitesta53@...> wrote:

Hi Alan,
may I have please a photo of the position/installation connections ?
many thanks
Cheers
Giovanni Testa
sv Eutikia SM 428

Il 13/02/2021 23:33, Alan Leslie ha scritto:
Hi Victor,

Our AMFA pump fell to bits years ago
I replaced it with a Johnson Viking 32 pump


The pumps and spare parts are available everywhere.
It is a very good pump.

Cheers

Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: Forward Looking Sonar

Ken Powers SV Aquarius <ken@...>
 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOQeR_3fQcE&t=7s

Hello Nick,

This video shows the placement of the transducer, from the outside while Aquarius was on the hard, and video from the inside of Aquarius.   You need to build up the fiberglass where you plan to install the transducer.  Should not be difficult, and fairly cheap.  Then drill and install the through hole.  I would install the display in the same location as on Aquarius.  This was installed before I bought Aquarius, so I can not take credit,  but I have found the placement of the display perfect!  Running the transducer cable through the boat take about 1 hour with two people.  Had to do this because I hit a log in Columbia and this cracked my transducer.   I felt blind without my EchoPilot.

Some have said that the forward looking sonar is worthless because you can't see more than a boat length in less than 4 meters of water.    When I have 4 meters of water under Aquarius, I can see out about 40 meters.  When it gets really shallow, 2.5M, I can usually see about 30 meters.  And this information is priceless in those situations.  And for those Amel Owners that want to go 6 knots in 2.5 meters of water....  Buy a boat that is better suited for this task..  A    Beneteau.  Sorry Beneteau owners, but there are so many Beneteau's, 1 missing won't be a big deal.  We have a very limited amount of Amel's and we need to keep our fleet safe and sound.

Ken Powers
Aquarius SM2K#262


Re: Watermaker #photo-notice

Karen Smith
 

These gauges might be filled with either glycerine, mineral oil, or food grade silicone oil.  Basically, something inert, that if it leaks into the water side of the gauge will not be toxic.  If the "oil" in the gauge dissolves in water--it is glycerine.  I can't think off hand of a quick and easy test to differentiate mineral oil from silicone oil.  

My preference for a watermaker pressure gauge would definitely be glycerine.  Mineral oil and silicone oil would destroy the membranes if they ever leaked into the water side even if they did not poison the resulting drinking water.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Charleston, SC, USA


Re: AMEL Group Insurance -- Update?

william reynolds
 

Insurance
My insurance broker recently  informed me that  they would no longer cover any sailing vessels in the Caribbean, After much discussion with other cruisers and soliciting  bids for coverage I could not find  acceptable coverage. I was in Grenada at the time and another cruiser had just gotten coverage from a little known company there.
The company is Netherlands Ins. Ltd. Based in Grenada with offices in the Netherlands. They don't advertise much but do have an ad in the Caribbean Compass. They have only recently started covering cruising boats and don't have the history of massive hurricane losses. Their main business is large cargo vessels. They are the insurers (carriers) not a broker.'
They are slightly more expensive BUT some of the good points are - No depreciation when replacing or repairing, they cover all arbitration and legal fees in damage matters, they cover lighting strike damage, their deductable is 2% for normal damage and 4% for named storm damage and the real kicker is your cruising limits are worldwide! No limits during named storm season. Contact me if you want more details of my coverage.
Bill Reynolds
S/V Cloudstreet SM2K 331


Re: AMEL Group Insurance -- Update?

JB Duler
 

Rick, the subject of insurance is back on the table. A small group is looking into it (Teun BAAS, Kent Robertson, Ken Powers, Brent Cameron, David Kurtz, David Vogel and myself).

We recently had a brainstorming session, have drafted a survey that hopefully will be out soon after several comments.

We will keep you posted.




--
John Bernard "JB" Duler
San Francisco
Meltem # 19, Western Med


Re: Watermaker #photo-notice

Matt Salatino
 

I believe mineral oil can be used.

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Feb 14, 2021, at 8:40 PM, Susan Commarato via groups.io <sueisnuts@...> wrote:

Can anyone tell me what type of oil is in the high pressure gauge of the watermaker? It’s a Watermaker HR BY4. I’m  on a friends boat and he has a leak. 
S/V Rochelle
2007 Amel54
Thanks 
Susan 


Re: Watermaker #photo-notice

Arno Luijten
 

Hi, I had the very same problem. I bought some special oil that goes into these gauges. I found the cap on the top of the gauge parished. So I put some tape over it, but it kept loosing oil so I gave up on it and bought a new one.
Be aware that once you start taking the panel apart to replace the gauge you will most likely find more parts that need replacement also because of the taking apart.

This is the oil I used:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00D0HVY8W/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Regards,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121


Re: AMEL Group Insurance -- Update?

Mark Erdos
 

I’ll send a PM

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2021 4:00 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] AMEL Group Insurance -- Update?

 

Hi Mark, can you share with us your premium as a % of insured value.

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 15 February 2021 at 14:44 Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:

I just re-upped with Topsail. It was Y-Yacht policy and then was purchased last year by Topsail. They honored the OCC (Ocean Cruising Club) discount and we have a good policy with cyclone coverage in the South Pacific if we remain at Tahiti or east of 150 during the cyclone season. The underwriter changed but the policy is still underwritten by an A+ company per by Ambest.

 

During the time I was waiting for the new policy, I checked with The Marine Shop Ltd. In New Zealand bases on a neighbors recommendation. The offering they sent me was identical to the policy offered by Topsail with the same underwriter. They were willing to allow a change even though the last survey of our vessel is very old.

 

If you are unfamiliar with Topsail (UK), they are the go to insurance company for OCC members. The Marine Shop also has a good reputation among the cruising crowd.

 

My rate went down considerably since we will be only in French Polynesia this next period.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rick Stanley
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2021 2:00 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] AMEL Group Insurance -- Update?

 

I was curious is there was any updates ragarding the AMEL group insurance initiative discussed during one of the ZOOM meetings several months ago. Any headway on that issue at all?

Thanks,

Rick & Meadow

 

 


 


 


Re: AMEL Group Insurance -- Update?

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Mark, can you share with us your premium as a % of insured value.

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 15 February 2021 at 14:44 Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:

I just re-upped with Topsail. It was Y-Yacht policy and then was purchased last year by Topsail. They honored the OCC (Ocean Cruising Club) discount and we have a good policy with cyclone coverage in the South Pacific if we remain at Tahiti or east of 150 during the cyclone season. The underwriter changed but the policy is still underwritten by an A+ company per by Ambest.

 

During the time I was waiting for the new policy, I checked with The Marine Shop Ltd. In New Zealand bases on a neighbors recommendation. The offering they sent me was identical to the policy offered by Topsail with the same underwriter. They were willing to allow a change even though the last survey of our vessel is very old.

 

If you are unfamiliar with Topsail (UK), they are the go to insurance company for OCC members. The Marine Shop also has a good reputation among the cruising crowd.

 

My rate went down considerably since we will be only in French Polynesia this next period.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rick Stanley
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2021 2:00 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] AMEL Group Insurance -- Update?

 

I was curious is there was any updates ragarding the AMEL group insurance initiative discussed during one of the ZOOM meetings several months ago. Any headway on that issue at all?

Thanks,

Rick & Meadow

 



 


 


Re: Watermaker #photo-notice

michael winand
 

I would think it is glycerine 
Michael  Nebo  sm251 


On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 at 11:40 am, Susan Commarato via groups.io
<sueisnuts@...> wrote:
Can anyone tell me what type of oil is in the high pressure gauge of the watermaker? It’s a Watermaker HR BY4. I’m  on a friends boat and he has a leak. 
S/V Rochelle
2007 Amel54
Thanks 
Susan 


Watermaker #photo-notice

Susan Commarato
 

Can anyone tell me what type of oil is in the high pressure gauge of the watermaker? It’s a Watermaker HR BY4. I’m  on a friends boat and he has a leak. 
S/V Rochelle
2007 Amel54
Thanks 
Susan 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] electrolysis on jib furling gearbox? [1 Attachment]

Arno Luijten
 

Hi Scott,

There are a number of things that can cause galvanic corrosion. Typically a poor grounding system in the marina can be a cause. But there can also be a DC component on the AC power. That is exceptional though.

Amels bonding system is connected to the shore power earth wire via the A/C systems and the watermaker 230V motor so there is that.
There are quite a few marinas that use these steel plates at one more sides of the marina. Quite often these are protected with a galvanic potential to save them from corrosion. This can lead to problems on a boat. I’m not so sure if the threshold voltage of the Victron device will offer enough protection. Also there can be boats next to you with poorly designed shore power systems. Again, I’m not sure if the threshold voltage is sufficient.

So in short, I don’t know if the Victron device will provide enough protection. It may be a good solution for some cases. For sure it is much cheaper and easier to install.
When I read about the device I was not convinced and because of that I did go for the full separation of the shore power. Also because the shore power in this marina is a mess. We are most of the time in this marina as we are residents of St Maarten.
Maybe just for fun I should measure the difference between the shore power earth and the boat’s earth.

To the lazarette: Ours was leaking badly as well, but this was because of the poorly fitted twistlocks as well as worn out O-rings inside the twist locks. Another cause was the pot where the middle stanchion normally resides. Amel made a poor choice here to simply drill a hole and put the pot in with some bolts and caulking. However the core of the deck at that place is balsa. That and the forces exhibited by the stanchion makes that after a while you will get water ingress. In my case the balsa core was rotting in a ring around the hole. So I removed the wet core for the biggest part. Then I left it drying in the hot sun we have here for a few days. Finally I filled the cavity with epoxy and redrilled the bolt holes. Since then the lazarette is dry, even with extensive green water over deck. 

Regards,
Arno
SV Luna,
A54-121


Re: AMEL Group Insurance -- Update?

Mark Erdos
 

I just re-upped with Topsail. It was Y-Yacht policy and then was purchased last year by Topsail. They honored the OCC (Ocean Cruising Club) discount and we have a good policy with cyclone coverage in the South Pacific if we remain at Tahiti or east of 150 during the cyclone season. The underwriter changed but the policy is still underwritten by an A+ company per by Ambest.

 

During the time I was waiting for the new policy, I checked with The Marine Shop Ltd. In New Zealand bases on a neighbors recommendation. The offering they sent me was identical to the policy offered by Topsail with the same underwriter. They were willing to allow a change even though the last survey of our vessel is very old.

 

If you are unfamiliar with Topsail (UK), they are the go to insurance company for OCC members. The Marine Shop also has a good reputation among the cruising crowd.

 

My rate went down considerably since we will be only in French Polynesia this next period.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rick Stanley
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2021 2:00 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] AMEL Group Insurance -- Update?

 

I was curious is there was any updates ragarding the AMEL group insurance initiative discussed during one of the ZOOM meetings several months ago. Any headway on that issue at all?

Thanks,

Rick & Meadow


AMEL Group Insurance -- Update?

Rick Stanley
 

I was curious is there was any updates ragarding the AMEL group insurance initiative discussed during one of the ZOOM meetings several months ago. Any headway on that issue at all?

Thanks,

Rick & Meadow

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