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Re: Many Yanmar owners can eliminate the fuel filter with the warer sensing wiring.

eric freedman
 

Mark,

You just unplug the sensor and unscrew the filter. Then bring it to a Yanmar dealer and get the filter without the sensor as in my photo.

Where is your boat now?

Fair Winds

Eric

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mark Pitt
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 4:32 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Many Yanmar owners can eliminate the fuel filter with the warer sensing wiring.

 

Eric,

I have never had water in my fuel filter, perhaps as a result of my fuel polishing system, and would like to eliminate the wiring and sensor.  Don't I need a different setup under the filter?  Where would one get that?

Mark Pitt
Sabbatical III, SM#419, Rhode Island, USA

On 2/21/2021 3:42 AM, eric freedman wrote:

If you have a 4jh Yanmar engine and your instrument panel does not have a light to indicate you have water in the filter

you can eliminate the expensive filter, wiring,  and sensor. The only purpose of that sensor is to indicate you have water in the filter. I eliminated that setup from my new engine and added the one shown in the photo. It is so much easier to  change without the wiring.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 


Re: Mastervolt Batery Monitor

Slavko Despotovic
 

I have checked setting on MV monitor and they are as it should be. When ever I go to marina I plug 220V to my boat so I assume that it is charging to 100% as I stay at the boat 10-12 hours. Strange thing is that it never shows negative value, even when I am only on batteries, the remanning time is all the time CCCC that is strange as well. The remaining  Ah  is number higher than 1000, and I have 440Ah of batteries. On  my previous boat I had AMG 400Ah batteries and Mastervolt monitor that worked perfectly (showing Ah, Voltage, Current drain, ..., including voltage of starting battery as well).  I know the importance of the charging AMG batteries (currently on my Amel). Indication is that most likely  monitor have failed. 
--
Slavko
SM 2000
#279 Bonne Anse in Portoroz


Re: Mastervolt Batery Monitor

Wolfgang Weber <webercardio@...>
 

Amel 54 #162 came with XANTREX Batteriecheck
Original Programm for 630 Ah wet-cell :
F1  : 630 Ah                   F7 :   1,75                 r.b. : off
F2  :  27,3 V                   F 8  :  500 A              f.f.  : off
F3  :  7,0 %                      F9  :     30 A
F4  :  70 %                      F10 :  none
F5  :  23,5 V                    F11:  - - -
F6 :   80 %                       F12 :  off





Re: alarm unit

Steven Nieman
 

Dear Mike & Peta,

Thank you very much for the explanation🙏😁😁

Kindest Regards,

Steven nieman
#SM 476

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone


Re: Mastervolt Batery Monitor

 

The 712 from Victron is a good monitor, but all battery monitors used with conventional batteries become inaccurate the longer you wait to fully charge your batteries to 100%. Someone could probably write a book as to why this exists, but it does. If it has been longer than 1 week since your batteries were charge to 100%, the readings on the percent of charge will be inaccurate...longer, more inaccurate. Additionally, your Amel came with a Link 10 battery monitor, so someone has changed it to Mastervolt. Do you know if the settings programmed into the Mastervolt are accurate?

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 5:26 AM Slavko Despotovic <slavko@...> wrote:
I have Mastervolt BM on my SM that is not working well as it is shoving only positive values of current and very fluctuating (changing value all the time), remaining time is not shown, Ah are unreliable . So I assume that the unit is broken or shunt might send wrong info. Before buying new unit, most likely 712 from Victron I would like to know if there is any similar experience with Mastervolt unit.
--
Slavko
SM 2000
#279 Bonne Anse in Portoroz


Re: Many Yanmar owners can eliminate the fuel filter with the warer sensing wiring.

 

I believe that all Yanmars installed in Amels originally had a water sensor in the fuel filter assembly. This sensor does two things. It eventually cuts off the supply of fuel to the injection pump and it lights up the Yanmar Panel Oil Lamp. The wiring to the sensor which is on the bottom nut of the fuel filter has a junction connection that should be unplugged when changing the fuel filter.

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Changing the fuel filter with a water sensor:
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CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 3:32 AM Mark Pitt <mark_pitt@...> wrote:

Eric,

I have never had water in my fuel filter, perhaps as a result of my fuel polishing system, and would like to eliminate the wiring and sensor.  Don't I need a different setup under the filter?  Where would one get that?

Mark Pitt
Sabbatical III, SM#419, Rhode Island, USA
On 2/21/2021 3:42 AM, eric freedman wrote:

If you have a 4jh Yanmar engine and your instrument panel does not have a light to indicate you have water in the filter

you can eliminate the expensive filter, wiring,  and sensor. The only purpose of that sensor is to indicate you have water in the filter. I eliminated that setup from my new engine and added the one shown in the photo. It is so much easier to  change without the wiring.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 


la Querida for sale

Peter de Groot
 

Greetings,
It is with mixed feelings that my wife and I have decided to sell la Querida, Super Maramu hull # 207 (year built 1998), currently in the Marina at Barra de Navidad, Mexico.
I have posted more specifics in “yachts for sale” (the sub group)
Please feel free to contact me by email:
pandmdegroot at sbcglobal dot net.

I’ve appreciated this group and the support from all the Amel community.

Fair Winds.
Peter


Amel 55 fuel tank guage accuracy

Billy Newport
 

I've been running my boat in the marina this winter with the diesel heater running. It was down at a quarter in late Dec so I filled it with 103 gallons. I had fuel coming up the fill pipe in to the overflow bowl when I stopped so I'm pretty sure I filled it.
It was still about 1/2 full a couple of weeks ago and it's dropped to just under a quarter again yesterday. So, something is up here. A 230 gallon tank thats a quarter full doesn't fill with 103 gallons.
Has anyone any experience with the guages on a 55? I've ordered a yachtd tank level sensor which can be calibrated so I'll switch to that. But, without the sight guage from the SM's, what does a quarter full mean (130 gallons left?)

Billy
Amel 55#56


Re: Vindvane on a 54?

Martin Bevan
 

I was the previous owner of Randall’s boat. Based on previous experience of short handed ocean sailing and being new to Amel with the 54, I thought I needed a wind and water powered self steering rig as a backup and to conserve power. After a great deal of research and endless discussions with Hydrovane I fitted one. Due to the boarding ladder it had to be offset. Whilst this arrangement might work on some similar sized boats it did not work for me. The water flow on the stern varies in direction with speed and heel, thus the mechanism does not stand a chance. Hydrovane were very good and took it back. I spent the money on a complete spare autopilot to carry as a spare. This eventually came in useful 60,000nm later in St Helena when the linear drive failed - somewhere not renown as a source of spare parts.  I hope that this information helps. 

Martin


Mastervolt Batery Monitor

Slavko Despotovic
 

I have Mastervolt BM on my SM that is not working well as it is shoving only positive values of current and very fluctuating (changing value all the time), remaining time is not shown, Ah are unreliable . So I assume that the unit is broken or shunt might send wrong info. Before buying new unit, most likely 712 from Victron I would like to know if there is any similar experience with Mastervolt unit.
--
Slavko
SM 2000
#279 Bonne Anse in Portoroz


Re: alarm unit

Mike Johnson
 

HI Steven,

 

It the control panel for the Active Echo radar reflector.

 

When switched on it enhances the boats response to a radar signal reflecting back a stronger response.

 

When the buzzer is selected on an audible warning is given when a radar signal is received.  This can be annoying!

 

Very best wishes

 

Mike & Peta

 

SM2k 461

SOLITUDE

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steven Nieman
Sent: 22 February 2021 10:04
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] alarm unit

 

Hi,
does anyone know what this unit is for?


alarm unit

Steven Nieman
 

Hi,
does anyone know what this unit is for?


Re: Many Yanmar owners can eliminate the fuel filter with the warer sensing wiring.

Mark Pitt
 

Eric,

I have never had water in my fuel filter, perhaps as a result of my fuel polishing system, and would like to eliminate the wiring and sensor.  Don't I need a different setup under the filter?  Where would one get that?

Mark Pitt
Sabbatical III, SM#419, Rhode Island, USA

On 2/21/2021 3:42 AM, eric freedman wrote:

If you have a 4jh Yanmar engine and your instrument panel does not have a light to indicate you have water in the filter

you can eliminate the expensive filter, wiring,  and sensor. The only purpose of that sensor is to indicate you have water in the filter. I eliminated that setup from my new engine and added the one shown in the photo. It is so much easier to  change without the wiring.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 


Re: Another mystery parts question

 

The bolt is for the C-Drive oil drain. It was likely replaced with the V Bolt for the Spurs Line Cutter.
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CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Sat, Feb 20, 2021 at 2:59 PM Wolfgang Weber via groups.io <webercardio=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Yes, the bolt for using with line cutter has a V-cut at the head of the bolt. So this was perhaps before adding the line-cutter
Wolfgang Weber SY Elise Amel 54#162




Re: Vindvane on a 54?

Martin Birkhoff
 

Thanks to all of you for your input,

affirming our decision not to add a windvane (though I would like to fuss with it ...). 
At present we have a spare linear drive in a locker and an installed chain drive too. We can choose the preferred drive by switch. A spare controll unit / computer will be added soon. To improve the energy situation we will add an hydro generator.

Martin
Mago del Sur 54#40   


Re: Vindvane on a 54?

Ian Park
 

Agree fully with Bill.
I took my hydrovane off and sold it. I would have loved it on my previous boat (Jeanneau 37). I'm not the best sail trimmer and if the boat went off course it meant releasing the locked steering wheel and getting the boat back on course - or - going to the back of the boat to disengage it. At night this was more of a problem. The rudder on it is vertical and is great at gathering sargasso weed. So even on autopilot it can be a pain. The hydrovane rudder is very difficult to put on in a seaway so you have to fit it before departure. It is easy enough to remove under way but not to replace it.
As an ever ageing couple of was obvious that 'we' on this boat didn't need it. We just carry a spare rotary drive.
If you do install a hydrovane reinforce the transom. It wasn't built to take the forces of the mounting struts.

Ian
Ocean Hobo SN96


Re: Vindvane on a 54?

Bill Kinney
 

I love windvanes.  They are awesome pieces of mechanical kit.  I have spent many hours on a long ocean passage just watching one, which can be endlessly fascinating to an engineering nerd like me.  There is something very satisfying about working to get the sails trimmed right and the boat in perfect tune and steering itself.  But... other than the entertainment value, there are really only two practical reasons I can think of for having one.

First is the low power usage.  On an Amel this is not an issue.  You can have all the power you need to run an electric autopilot.  The amount of extra energy used by the autopilot over and above what we need to run our fridges and other "routine" stuff is really pretty trivial.

Second reason is the perceived reliability of a windvane over an electric autopilot.  In all of my ocean sailing I have had ONE self-steering system failure that left me needing to change plans for my trip. That was a windvane that cracked an aluminum casting 800 miles out in the Pacific.  By my measure--an admittedly very limited in number of data points--electric auto pilots have been much more reliable.  For much less than the cost of a windvane you can buy a spare linear drive for your autopilot (our boat came to us with a spare) and have a ready to drop in backup for all the mechanical bits in the system.

What we have on Harmonie is an installed linear drive, with a backup in the locker, and an installed chain drive, and two independent autopilot computers each of which can run either drive unit.  Short of a lightning strike taking down all of our electronics, I have confidence we have sufficient redundancies.

As far as I know, for an Amel 54 the only practical option you have for a windvane is a Hydrovane.  If there are no arches, or other obstructions on the stern of the boat, I would bet it would work, but would take quite a bit of fussing to balance the boat well enough to make it reliable. I would enjoy that fussing, not everybody would.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Charleston, SC, USA


Many Yanmar owners can eliminate the fuel filter with the warer sensing wiring.

eric freedman
 

If you have a 4jh Yanmar engine and your instrument panel does not have a light to indicate you have water in the filter

you can eliminate the expensive filter, wiring,  and sensor. The only purpose of that sensor is to indicate you have water in the filter. I eliminated that setup from my new engine and added the one shown in the photo. It is so much easier to  change without the wiring.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 


Re: Amel Club still active??? http://www.club-amel.fr/home-community/

Teun BAAS
 

JB,

 

I am a subscriber; virtually never go there. Just checked and it appeared unchanged from last time I logged in.

 

Best Regards Teun

SV AMELIT  A54  #128

 

In Storage on the hard in COOMERA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA

February 20, 2021 16:06:08

 

USA cell: +1 832 477 8842

AUSTRALIA cell: +61 5951 8909

 

You can follow AMELIT via this link: https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/display/AMELIT

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From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of JB Duler via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 09:56
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Amel Club still active??? http://www.club-amel.fr/home-community/

 

The Amel Yard seems to run a Forum/  Amel Club (http://www.club-amel.fr/home-community/).
Does anybody know if that forum/club is still maintained?
It takes forever to load (I am in San Francisco, so I assume they are using a local server in France), there are lots of broken links, outdated posts, little activity, and on the top of it the site is not secure.
As we are trying to gather feedback from Amel owners on insurance issues (potentially leading to a self insured plan) I am trying to reach as many Amel Owners as possible.
Fill out the survey if you have not done so:
English version: https://kivfinance.typeform.com/to/weCULvfW


French version:https://kivfinance.typeform.com/to/bsWP60ko

--

John Bernard "JB" Duler
San Francisco
Meltem # 19, Western Med


Re: Vindvane on a 54?

Randall Walker
 


Hey Martin,

I believe when the solar panels and wind generators went on, the run your autopilot full time was less of an energy issue.
But with the newer tender davit, the hydrovane just had to go.
My opinion is the Hydrovane would spend way to much time popping up out of the water on a 54.
Just work toward good electrical power.
Randall
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On Sat, Feb 20, 2021 at 8:52 PM Martin Birkhoff <mbirkhoff@...> wrote:

Randall,
did the former owner say something about his experiences? 

I would expect - as Bill said - the 54 to be to big to be steered by a windvane. 
But because we made good experiences using a Windpilot Pacific and knowing that there are some big boats up to 60 feet with wind gear its interesting to know more if possible.

Martin
Mago del Sur 54#40

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