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Re: Mastervolt Batery Monitor

Wolfgang Weber <webercardio@...>
 

Hello Bill,
We have Xantrex LinkLite - so working only with F1-F12. No history etc.
Wolfgang Weber SY Elise Amel 54 #162 (2010)






Re: Many Yanmar owners can eliminate the fuel filter with the warer sensing wiring.

 

Eric, the Yanmar manual clearly says that the Oil Lamp (Oil Pressure) will come on. In my experience, as it was originally wired, this is true.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 9:26 AM eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:

Hi Bill,

Yes they do come with a water sensor in the filter. However if the sensor is not hooked up  to a lamp

as in the case of both my  engines they are only set up to light a lamp which is not on my panel. In your quote from

Yanmar they are referring not to a fuel shutoff , they are referring to trying to run an engine with water in the filter.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

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Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Many Yanmar owners can eliminate the fuel filter with the warer sensing wiring.

 

I believe that all Yanmars installed in Amels originally had a water sensor in the fuel filter assembly. This sensor does two things. It eventually cuts off the supply of fuel to the injection pump and it lights up the Yanmar Panel Oil Lamp. The wiring to the sensor which is on the bottom nut of the fuel filter has a junction connection that should be unplugged when changing the fuel filter.

 

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Changing the fuel filter with a water sensor:

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On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 3:32 AM Mark Pitt <mark_pitt@...> wrote:

Eric,

I have never had water in my fuel filter, perhaps as a result of my fuel polishing system, and would like to eliminate the wiring and sensor.  Don't I need a different setup under the filter?  Where would one get that?

Mark Pitt
Sabbatical III, SM#419, Rhode Island, USA

On 2/21/2021 3:42 AM, eric freedman wrote:

If you have a 4jh Yanmar engine and your instrument panel does not have a light to indicate you have water in the filter

you can eliminate the expensive filter, wiring,  and sensor. The only purpose of that sensor is to indicate you have water in the filter. I eliminated that setup from my new engine and added the one shown in the photo. It is so much easier to  change without the wiring.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 


Re: Mastervolt Batery Monitor

 

There were 2 different versions of the Xantrex battery monitor used on 54s. 

I believe the Link 10 was used on early 54s, the LinkPro on mid-build 54s, and if I am not mistaken, Mastervolt on the last 54s.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 9:29 AM Ulrich Michael Dangelmeyer <ulrich.dangelmeyer@...> wrote:
Hello Wolfgang, and other related Amelians,

your hint and listing of the Xantrex values are very interesting and important for me. we also have the Xantrex battery monitor on "Soleil Bleu" #088, as I'm sure many other 54s do. However, in the operator's manual I find a different listing of the positions as you describe. I have always wanted to readjust our Xantrex, also because we installed a complete AGM bank with Victrons 110 Ah last year, but I don't know the correct basic settings in the Xantrex for Amel 54. Do you perhaps have a newer Xantrex than we do? The manual I have just called up on the net is from Oct 2004. We took over the setting from the previous owner, with classic lead-acid batteries. Surely there are differences? 

Thank you for your much appreciated recommendations.

Fair finds and stay safe.
Ulrich
#



Amel 54 #162 came with XANTREX Batteriecheck
Original Programm for 630 Ah wet-cell :
F1  : 630 Ah                   F7 :   1,75                 r.b. : off
F2  :  27,3 V                   F 8  :  500 A              f.f.  : off
F3  :  7,0 %                      F9  :     30 A
F4  :  70 %                      F10 :  none
F5  :  23,5 V                    F11:  - - -
F6 :   80 %                       F12 :  off






Re: Many Yanmar owners can eliminate the fuel filter with the warer sensing wiring.

Mark Pitt
 

Eric,

   Thanks for the info.  The boat is at the Safe Harbor Wickford Marina in Wickford (North Kingstown), Rhode Island.

  Best,

   Mark

On 2/22/2021 5:20 PM, eric freedman wrote:

Mark,

You just unplug the sensor and unscrew the filter. Then bring it to a Yanmar dealer and get the filter without the sensor as in my photo.

Where is your boat now?

Fair Winds

Eric

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mark Pitt
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 4:32 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Many Yanmar owners can eliminate the fuel filter with the warer sensing wiring.

 

Eric,

I have never had water in my fuel filter, perhaps as a result of my fuel polishing system, and would like to eliminate the wiring and sensor.  Don't I need a different setup under the filter?  Where would one get that?

Mark Pitt
Sabbatical III, SM#419, Rhode Island, USA

On 2/21/2021 3:42 AM, eric freedman wrote:

If you have a 4jh Yanmar engine and your instrument panel does not have a light to indicate you have water in the filter

you can eliminate the expensive filter, wiring,  and sensor. The only purpose of that sensor is to indicate you have water in the filter. I eliminated that setup from my new engine and added the one shown in the photo. It is so much easier to  change without the wiring.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 


Re: Mastervolt Batery Monitor

Ulrich Michael Dangelmeyer
 

Hello Wolfgang, and other related Amelians,

your hint and listing of the Xantrex values are very interesting and important for me. we also have the Xantrex battery monitor on "Soleil Bleu" #088, as I'm sure many other 54s do. However, in the operator's manual I find a different listing of the positions as you describe. I have always wanted to readjust our Xantrex, also because we installed a complete AGM bank with Victrons 110 Ah last year, but I don't know the correct basic settings in the Xantrex for Amel 54. Do you perhaps have a newer Xantrex than we do? The manual I have just called up on the net is from Oct 2004. We took over the setting from the previous owner, with classic lead-acid batteries. Surely there are differences? 

Thank you for your much appreciated recommendations.

Fair finds and stay safe.
Ulrich
#



Amel 54 #162 came with XANTREX Batteriecheck
Original Programm for 630 Ah wet-cell :
F1  : 630 Ah                   F7 :   1,75                 r.b. : off
F2  :  27,3 V                   F 8  :  500 A              f.f.  : off
F3  :  7,0 %                      F9  :     30 A
F4  :  70 %                      F10 :  none
F5  :  23,5 V                    F11:  - - -
F6 :   80 %                       F12 :  off






Re: Many Yanmar owners can eliminate the fuel filter with the warer sensing wiring.

Eric Freedman
 

Hi Bill,

Yes they do come with a water sensor in the filter. However if the sensor is not hooked up  to a lamp

as in the case of both my  engines they are only set up to light a lamp which is not on my panel. In your quote from

Yanmar they are referring not to a fuel shutoff , they are referring to trying to run an engine with water in the filter.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 9:27 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Many Yanmar owners can eliminate the fuel filter with the warer sensing wiring.

 

I believe that all Yanmars installed in Amels originally had a water sensor in the fuel filter assembly. This sensor does two things. It eventually cuts off the supply of fuel to the injection pump and it lights up the Yanmar Panel Oil Lamp. The wiring to the sensor which is on the bottom nut of the fuel filter has a junction connection that should be unplugged when changing the fuel filter.

 

image.png

 

Changing the fuel filter with a water sensor:

image.png

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CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School

Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 

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View My Training Calendar

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On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 3:32 AM Mark Pitt <mark_pitt@...> wrote:

Eric,

I have never had water in my fuel filter, perhaps as a result of my fuel polishing system, and would like to eliminate the wiring and sensor.  Don't I need a different setup under the filter?  Where would one get that?

Mark Pitt
Sabbatical III, SM#419, Rhode Island, USA

On 2/21/2021 3:42 AM, eric freedman wrote:

If you have a 4jh Yanmar engine and your instrument panel does not have a light to indicate you have water in the filter

you can eliminate the expensive filter, wiring,  and sensor. The only purpose of that sensor is to indicate you have water in the filter. I eliminated that setup from my new engine and added the one shown in the photo. It is so much easier to  change without the wiring.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 


Re: Many Yanmar owners can eliminate the fuel filter with the warer sensing wiring.

Eric Freedman
 

Mark,

You just unplug the sensor and unscrew the filter. Then bring it to a Yanmar dealer and get the filter without the sensor as in my photo.

Where is your boat now?

Fair Winds

Eric

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mark Pitt
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 4:32 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Many Yanmar owners can eliminate the fuel filter with the warer sensing wiring.

 

Eric,

I have never had water in my fuel filter, perhaps as a result of my fuel polishing system, and would like to eliminate the wiring and sensor.  Don't I need a different setup under the filter?  Where would one get that?

Mark Pitt
Sabbatical III, SM#419, Rhode Island, USA

On 2/21/2021 3:42 AM, eric freedman wrote:

If you have a 4jh Yanmar engine and your instrument panel does not have a light to indicate you have water in the filter

you can eliminate the expensive filter, wiring,  and sensor. The only purpose of that sensor is to indicate you have water in the filter. I eliminated that setup from my new engine and added the one shown in the photo. It is so much easier to  change without the wiring.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 


Re: Mastervolt Batery Monitor

Slavko Despotovic
 

I have checked setting on MV monitor and they are as it should be. When ever I go to marina I plug 220V to my boat so I assume that it is charging to 100% as I stay at the boat 10-12 hours. Strange thing is that it never shows negative value, even when I am only on batteries, the remanning time is all the time CCCC that is strange as well. The remaining  Ah  is number higher than 1000, and I have 440Ah of batteries. On  my previous boat I had AMG 400Ah batteries and Mastervolt monitor that worked perfectly (showing Ah, Voltage, Current drain, ..., including voltage of starting battery as well).  I know the importance of the charging AMG batteries (currently on my Amel). Indication is that most likely  monitor have failed. 
--
Slavko
SM 2000
#279 Bonne Anse in Portoroz


Re: Mastervolt Batery Monitor

Wolfgang Weber <webercardio@...>
 

Amel 54 #162 came with XANTREX Batteriecheck
Original Programm for 630 Ah wet-cell :
F1  : 630 Ah                   F7 :   1,75                 r.b. : off
F2  :  27,3 V                   F 8  :  500 A              f.f.  : off
F3  :  7,0 %                      F9  :     30 A
F4  :  70 %                      F10 :  none
F5  :  23,5 V                    F11:  - - -
F6 :   80 %                       F12 :  off





Re: alarm unit

Steven Nieman
 

Dear Mike & Peta,

Thank you very much for the explanation🙏😁😁

Kindest Regards,

Steven nieman
#SM 476

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone


Re: Mastervolt Batery Monitor

 

The 712 from Victron is a good monitor, but all battery monitors used with conventional batteries become inaccurate the longer you wait to fully charge your batteries to 100%. Someone could probably write a book as to why this exists, but it does. If it has been longer than 1 week since your batteries were charge to 100%, the readings on the percent of charge will be inaccurate...longer, more inaccurate. Additionally, your Amel came with a Link 10 battery monitor, so someone has changed it to Mastervolt. Do you know if the settings programmed into the Mastervolt are accurate?

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 5:26 AM Slavko Despotovic <slavko@...> wrote:
I have Mastervolt BM on my SM that is not working well as it is shoving only positive values of current and very fluctuating (changing value all the time), remaining time is not shown, Ah are unreliable . So I assume that the unit is broken or shunt might send wrong info. Before buying new unit, most likely 712 from Victron I would like to know if there is any similar experience with Mastervolt unit.
--
Slavko
SM 2000
#279 Bonne Anse in Portoroz


Re: Many Yanmar owners can eliminate the fuel filter with the warer sensing wiring.

 

I believe that all Yanmars installed in Amels originally had a water sensor in the fuel filter assembly. This sensor does two things. It eventually cuts off the supply of fuel to the injection pump and it lights up the Yanmar Panel Oil Lamp. The wiring to the sensor which is on the bottom nut of the fuel filter has a junction connection that should be unplugged when changing the fuel filter.

image.png

Changing the fuel filter with a water sensor:
image.png
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 3:32 AM Mark Pitt <mark_pitt@...> wrote:

Eric,

I have never had water in my fuel filter, perhaps as a result of my fuel polishing system, and would like to eliminate the wiring and sensor.  Don't I need a different setup under the filter?  Where would one get that?

Mark Pitt
Sabbatical III, SM#419, Rhode Island, USA
On 2/21/2021 3:42 AM, eric freedman wrote:

If you have a 4jh Yanmar engine and your instrument panel does not have a light to indicate you have water in the filter

you can eliminate the expensive filter, wiring,  and sensor. The only purpose of that sensor is to indicate you have water in the filter. I eliminated that setup from my new engine and added the one shown in the photo. It is so much easier to  change without the wiring.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 


la Querida for sale

Peter de Groot
 

Greetings,
It is with mixed feelings that my wife and I have decided to sell la Querida, Super Maramu hull # 207 (year built 1998), currently in the Marina at Barra de Navidad, Mexico.
I have posted more specifics in “yachts for sale” (the sub group)
Please feel free to contact me by email:
pandmdegroot at sbcglobal dot net.

I’ve appreciated this group and the support from all the Amel community.

Fair Winds.
Peter


Amel 55 fuel tank guage accuracy

Billy Newport
 

I've been running my boat in the marina this winter with the diesel heater running. It was down at a quarter in late Dec so I filled it with 103 gallons. I had fuel coming up the fill pipe in to the overflow bowl when I stopped so I'm pretty sure I filled it.
It was still about 1/2 full a couple of weeks ago and it's dropped to just under a quarter again yesterday. So, something is up here. A 230 gallon tank thats a quarter full doesn't fill with 103 gallons.
Has anyone any experience with the guages on a 55? I've ordered a yachtd tank level sensor which can be calibrated so I'll switch to that. But, without the sight guage from the SM's, what does a quarter full mean (130 gallons left?)

Billy
Amel 55#56


Re: Vindvane on a 54?

Martin Bevan
 

I was the previous owner of Randall’s boat. Based on previous experience of short handed ocean sailing and being new to Amel with the 54, I thought I needed a wind and water powered self steering rig as a backup and to conserve power. After a great deal of research and endless discussions with Hydrovane I fitted one. Due to the boarding ladder it had to be offset. Whilst this arrangement might work on some similar sized boats it did not work for me. The water flow on the stern varies in direction with speed and heel, thus the mechanism does not stand a chance. Hydrovane were very good and took it back. I spent the money on a complete spare autopilot to carry as a spare. This eventually came in useful 60,000nm later in St Helena when the linear drive failed - somewhere not renown as a source of spare parts.  I hope that this information helps. 

Martin


Mastervolt Batery Monitor

Slavko Despotovic
 

I have Mastervolt BM on my SM that is not working well as it is shoving only positive values of current and very fluctuating (changing value all the time), remaining time is not shown, Ah are unreliable . So I assume that the unit is broken or shunt might send wrong info. Before buying new unit, most likely 712 from Victron I would like to know if there is any similar experience with Mastervolt unit.
--
Slavko
SM 2000
#279 Bonne Anse in Portoroz


Re: alarm unit

Mike Johnson
 

HI Steven,

 

It the control panel for the Active Echo radar reflector.

 

When switched on it enhances the boats response to a radar signal reflecting back a stronger response.

 

When the buzzer is selected on an audible warning is given when a radar signal is received.  This can be annoying!

 

Very best wishes

 

Mike & Peta

 

SM2k 461

SOLITUDE

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steven Nieman
Sent: 22 February 2021 10:04
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] alarm unit

 

Hi,
does anyone know what this unit is for?


alarm unit

Steven Nieman
 

Hi,
does anyone know what this unit is for?


Re: Many Yanmar owners can eliminate the fuel filter with the warer sensing wiring.

Mark Pitt
 

Eric,

I have never had water in my fuel filter, perhaps as a result of my fuel polishing system, and would like to eliminate the wiring and sensor.  Don't I need a different setup under the filter?  Where would one get that?

Mark Pitt
Sabbatical III, SM#419, Rhode Island, USA

On 2/21/2021 3:42 AM, eric freedman wrote:

If you have a 4jh Yanmar engine and your instrument panel does not have a light to indicate you have water in the filter

you can eliminate the expensive filter, wiring,  and sensor. The only purpose of that sensor is to indicate you have water in the filter. I eliminated that setup from my new engine and added the one shown in the photo. It is so much easier to  change without the wiring.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 


Re: Another mystery parts question

 

The bolt is for the C-Drive oil drain. It was likely replaced with the V Bolt for the Spurs Line Cutter.
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CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
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On Sat, Feb 20, 2021 at 2:59 PM Wolfgang Weber via groups.io <webercardio=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Yes, the bolt for using with line cutter has a V-cut at the head of the bolt. So this was perhaps before adding the line-cutter
Wolfgang Weber SY Elise Amel 54#162



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