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Re: Lofrans Tigres Windlass gipsy

 

The cause is that the chain builds up like a volcano then falls on itself, making it difficult to exit via the motor. Normally this volcano building is mitigated by the vertical wall in the middle of the chain locker. The ratcheting is caused by the built-in ratchet mechanism which is needed to operate the windlass manually. There is a longer version of this explanation, but it is boring.😀

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Sat, Feb 27, 2021 at 3:40 PM Patrick McAneny via groups.io <sailw32=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
This is somewhat related. I find that sometimes when I try to drop my anchor the windlass will not turn and just makes a clicking sound ,I have to pull down on the chain to get it working .What causes that ?
Thanks,
Pat 
SM Shenanigans


-----Original Message-----
From: Derick Gates <derickgates@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Sent: Sat, Feb 27, 2021 4:00 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Lofrans Tigres Windlass gipsy

I have found that if I add too much grease to the cone/gypsy surfaces, they slip past each other too easily and will not have enough friction to haul up the anchor. After wiping off much of the excess grease, the proper functioning was restored. The anchor would haul up without slipping, but the gypsy would slip as intended if the pull weight became too strong. Moderation in all things!


Re: Lofrans Tigres Windlass gipsy

Patrick McAneny
 

This is somewhat related. I find that sometimes when I try to drop my anchor the windlass will not turn and just makes a clicking sound ,I have to pull down on the chain to get it working .What causes that ?
Thanks,
Pat 
SM Shenanigans


-----Original Message-----
From: Derick Gates <derickgates@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Sent: Sat, Feb 27, 2021 4:00 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Lofrans Tigres Windlass gipsy

I have found that if I add too much grease to the cone/gypsy surfaces, they slip past each other too easily and will not have enough friction to haul up the anchor. After wiping off much of the excess grease, the proper functioning was restored. The anchor would haul up without slipping, but the gypsy would slip as intended if the pull weight became too strong. Moderation in all things!


Re: Amel Mango in Split - Can somebody take a look at it for me? I'm happy to pay for the Service. #solution

Umberto Milici
 

Hello Jean-Pierre,

thank you I will evaluate all the opportunities before deciding
greetings



Umberto


Da: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> per conto di Germain Jean-Pierre <jp.germain45@...>
Inviato: sabato 27 febbraio 2021 21:15
A: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Oggetto: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Amel Mango in Split - Can somebody take a look at it for me? I'm happy to pay for the Service. #solution
 
Hello Umberto,

If you research this topic on sailing sites, you’ll find some support for these devices but much more for solar panels.

If you have a shaft generator on your main engine, this unit is much more effficient.

But... it is your decision :-)

Kind regards,

Jean-Pierre Germain, Eleuthera, SM007, New Zealand



On 28 Feb 2021, at 07:58, Umberto Milici <umberto@...> wrote:



hello to all,
I would like to install at the stern of my SM2K 456 an wind generator Air Breeze type mounted on a pole, someone has some photos or ideas to report to me.
thanks


Umberto

SM2K 456 "Be Quiet2"


Da: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> per conto di Daniel Alexander Thompson <Thompson.Xander@...>
Inviato: giovedì 25 febbraio 2021 16:32:41
A: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Oggetto: [AmelYachtOwners] Amel Mango in Split - Can somebody take a look at it for me? I'm happy to pay for the Service. #solution
 

[Edited Message Follows]

Hello Guys

I'm currently hoping to purchase an Amel Mango in Split, Croatia. Right now, I am in Panama City and unable to get to Croatia in the next four weeks. I am hoping there be an Amel owner in Split or the surrounding area who might be able to take a look at her for me. I would be more than willing to pay an hourly rate for the time taken and cover any and all travel expenses. 

Also if anybody knows a respected marine surveyor in Croatia (perhaps Split) please do let me know.

Bestest Regards


Re: Lofrans Tigres Windlass gipsy

Derick Gates SM2K #400 Brava
 

I have found that if I add too much grease to the cone/gypsy surfaces, they slip past each other too easily and will not have enough friction to haul up the anchor. After wiping off much of the excess grease, the proper functioning was restored. The anchor would haul up without slipping, but the gypsy would slip as intended if the pull weight became too strong. Moderation in all things!


Re: Amel Mango in Split - Can somebody take a look at it for me? I'm happy to pay for the Service. #solution

Germain Jean-Pierre
 

Hello Umberto,

If you research this topic on sailing sites, you’ll find some support for these devices but much more for solar panels.

If you have a shaft generator on your main engine, this unit is much more effficient.

But... it is your decision :-)

Kind regards,

Jean-Pierre Germain, Eleuthera, SM007, New Zealand



On 28 Feb 2021, at 07:58, Umberto Milici <umberto@...> wrote:



hello to all,
I would like to install at the stern of my SM2K 456 an wind generator Air Breeze type mounted on a pole, someone has some photos or ideas to report to me.
thanks


Umberto

SM2K 456 "Be Quiet2"


Da: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> per conto di Daniel Alexander Thompson <Thompson.Xander@...>
Inviato: giovedì 25 febbraio 2021 16:32:41
A: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Oggetto: [AmelYachtOwners] Amel Mango in Split - Can somebody take a look at it for me? I'm happy to pay for the Service. #solution
 

[Edited Message Follows]

Hello Guys

I'm currently hoping to purchase an Amel Mango in Split, Croatia. Right now, I am in Panama City and unable to get to Croatia in the next four weeks. I am hoping there be an Amel owner in Split or the surrounding area who might be able to take a look at her for me. I would be more than willing to pay an hourly rate for the time taken and cover any and all travel expenses. 

Also if anybody knows a respected marine surveyor in Croatia (perhaps Split) please do let me know.

Bestest Regards


Re: Amel Mango in Split - Can somebody take a look at it for me? I'm happy to pay for the Service. #solution

Umberto Milici
 

hello to all,
I would like to install at the stern of my SM2K 456 an wind generator Air Breeze type mounted on a pole, someone has some photos or ideas to report to me.
thanks


Umberto

SM2K 456 "Be Quiet2"


Da: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> per conto di Daniel Alexander Thompson <Thompson.Xander@...>
Inviato: giovedì 25 febbraio 2021 16:32:41
A: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Oggetto: [AmelYachtOwners] Amel Mango in Split - Can somebody take a look at it for me? I'm happy to pay for the Service. #solution
 

[Edited Message Follows]

Hello Guys

I'm currently hoping to purchase an Amel Mango in Split, Croatia. Right now, I am in Panama City and unable to get to Croatia in the next four weeks. I am hoping there be an Amel owner in Split or the surrounding area who might be able to take a look at her for me. I would be more than willing to pay an hourly rate for the time taken and cover any and all travel expenses. 

Also if anybody knows a respected marine surveyor in Croatia (perhaps Split) please do let me know.

Bestest Regards


Re: Mastervolt Batery Monitor

Rudolf Waldispuehl
 

Servus Ulrich

Our XANTREX Akku Monitor on WASABI A54#55 does have 20 settings (Parameters). I played around with it last year and found out it is more a monitoring and alarming systems. So the settings are for example to set low/high voltage threshold, etc. The manual says that there are parameters which should be kept as default, and some important one can/should be adapted. 

I’m back on WASABI by mid of March and can send you the settings which I have on our AMEL-54. We can even talk on whatsup or Skype if you like. 

Best regards
Ruedi 

Ruedi & Sabina Waldispuehl
"SY WASABI - Amel 54. #55
E-Mail: mail@... 
Currently in ALMERIMAR

Von: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Ulrich Michael Dangelmeyer <ulrich.dangelmeyer@...>
Antworten an: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Datum: Montag, 22. Februar 2021 um 17:07
An: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Betreff: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Mastervolt Batery Monitor

Hi Bill, Servus Wolfgang,

THX for your quick response. But our´s square housing shaped Xantrex is in the product data sheet only as "Xantrex Akku Monitor" named. No "Link , Link Pro, Link Lite" or so.

I found in the Web the same manual as we have obviously on board, but the listing of values to adjust is little different as Wolfgang mentioned, regarding his LinkLite.
May be I can match these settings over on ours? It´s a Monitor, not a charging management, mhm?

If there is anybody in the Group who’s is familiar with same type of monitor, he is able to sent me the correct adjustments (24V), very much appreciated. 

THX for help.
Best wishes and stay safe.

Ulrich.
<>



Am 22.02.2021 um 16:49 schrieb CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>:

There were 2 different versions of the Xantrex battery monitor used on 54s. 

I believe the Link 10 was used on early 54s, the LinkPro on mid-build 54s, and if I am not mistaken, Mastervolt on the last 54s.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
  
View My Training Calendar


On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 9:29 AM Ulrich Michael Dangelmeyer <ulrich.dangelmeyer@...> wrote:
Hello Wolfgang, and other related Amelians,

your hint and listing of the Xantrex values are very interesting and important for me. we also have the Xantrex battery monitor on "Soleil Bleu" #088, as I'm sure many other 54s do. However, in the operator's manual I find a different listing of the positions as you describe. I have always wanted to readjust our Xantrex, also because we installed a complete AGM bank with Victrons 110 Ah last year, but I don't know the correct basic settings in the Xantrex for Amel 54. Do you perhaps have a newer Xantrex than we do? The manual I have just called up on the net is from Oct 2004. We took over the setting from the previous owner, with classic lead-acid batteries. Surely there are differences? 

Thank you for your much appreciated recommendations.

Fair finds and stay safe.
Ulrich
#



Amel 54 #162 came with XANTREX Batteriecheck
Original Programm for 630 Ah wet-cell :
F1  : 630 Ah                   F7 :   1,75                 r.b. : off
F2  :  27,3 V                   F 8  :  500 A              f.f.  : off
F3  :  7,0 %                      F9  :     30 A
F4  :  70 %                      F10 :  none
F5  :  23,5 V                    F11:  - - -
F6 :   80 %                       F12 :  off









Re: Source of double lipped seals in the EU

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Thanks, Craig,
                          You're right. The guy who wants the seals said in his email that " A standard rotary oil seal with one lip will do as well "
 I guess he's a belt and braces guy.

 Ian


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Craig Briggs via groups.io <sangaris@...>
Sent: 27 February 2021 12:59
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Source of double lipped seals in the EU
 
Hi Ian,
I was about to comment about your mechanic (unnecessarily) wanting to use double lip seals but then got to your last sentence where you said the originals were (appropriately) single lips. Doubles are really not called for (not that they will hurt anything). The 2nd lip does not perform any sealing function whatsoever - it is simply there to keep dirt and contaminants away from the 1st lip, which does all the work. They are appropriate in really dusty and dirty environments like, say, farm equipment.  Definitely unnecessary overkill on our boats. They are only useful to allow the mechanic to charge more.
Cheers,
SN68 Sangaris, Tropic Isle Harbor, FL


Re: Source of double lipped seals in the EU

Craig Briggs
 

Hi Ian,
I was about to comment about your mechanic (unnecessarily) wanting to use double lip seals but then got to your last sentence where you said the originals were (appropriately) single lips. Doubles are really not called for (not that they will hurt anything). The 2nd lip does not perform any sealing function whatsoever - it is simply there to keep dirt and contaminants away from the 1st lip, which does all the work. They are appropriate in really dusty and dirty environments like, say, farm equipment.  Definitely unnecessary overkill on our boats. They are only useful to allow the mechanic to charge more.
Cheers,
SN68 Sangaris, Tropic Isle Harbor, FL


Re: Source of double lipped seals in the EU

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Thanks , Paul , 
I will pass that on also 
Ian


On 26 Feb 2021, at 16:48, Paul Osterberg <osterberg.paul.l@...> wrote:

I buy from 123 bearing. com
They have fast delivery
Paul on sykerpa SM 259 Lagos Portugal 


Re: Super Maramu interior upgrades

Eloi Bamberg
 

Hallo Kent,
I thought already about modifying the settee as you described (reclining the back and footrests). Have you some details or photos of your modification.

On Red Lion there were already drawers under each steps of the companionway when we bought it, great storage!

regards,

Eloi
Red Lion
SM2K 426


Re: Amel Mango in Split - Can somebody take a look at it for me? I'm happy to pay for the Service. #solution

eric freedman
 

Olivier worked at Amel for over 20 years.

In fact he was my instructor for the one week class at Amel  when I received Kimberlite.

Fair Winds

Eric

Olivier BEAUTE / ATLANTIC YACHT SURVEY
32 avenue des Corsaires
17000 LA ROCHELLE
Tel: +33 546 522 147   Mob: +33 674 028 243
 http://atlanticyachtsurvey.com

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Daniel Alexander Thompson
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2021 12:00 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Amel Mango in Split - Can somebody take a look at it for me? I'm happy to pay for the Service. #solution

 

Thanks Eric

How do i get in contact with Olivier to find out a quote for this work?


Re: Amel Mango in Split - Can somebody take a look at it for me? I'm happy to pay for the Service. #solution

Daniel Alexander Thompson
 

Thanks Eric

How do i get in contact with Olivier to find out a quote for this work?


Re: Source of double lipped seals in the EU

Paul Osterberg
 

I buy from 123 bearing. com
They have fast delivery
Paul on sykerpa SM 259 Lagos Portugal 


Re: Source of double lipped seals in the EU

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Thanks, Arno,

 I will pass that on.

 Ian


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Arno Luijten <arno.luijten@...>
Sent: 26 February 2021 15:25
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Source of double lipped seals in the EU
 
Hi,

I bought some for the C-Drive ingoing shaft here:

https://www.tridistribution.fr/roulements-et-paliers/29741-22186-joint-a-double-levre-din-3760-as-jl-as54-85.html

Those are according to the drawing the C-Drive 60x90x10 (innerxouterxthickness)

Cheers,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121


Re: Source of double lipped seals in the EU

Arno Luijten
 
Edited

Hi,

I bought some for the C-Drive ingoing shaft here:

https://www.tridistribution.fr/roulements-et-paliers/29741-22186-joint-a-double-levre-din-3760-as-jl-as54-85.html

Those are according to the drawing of the C-Drive 60x90x10 (innerxouterxthickness)

Cheers,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121


Source of double lipped seals in the EU

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

A good Austrian run yacht services business in Greece is having difficulty sourcing double lipped seals for two Supermaramu genoa gearboxes ( not ours ). They normally import them from an SKF agency in Scotland.
 Brexit has caught the Greek customs unawares , with massive delays and confusion in Athens.
 Can anyone recommend a source for double lip seals in the EU ?

 The original seals are single lipped, but these guys prefer the double lipped seals.

 Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302 Kilada, Greece


Re: Mango Refit?

Arlo
 

I have Mango number 46 from 1985. The Mango is a great boat and IMHO (I know this will be controversial) the best design that Henry came up with. Yes, they are older boats but if they have been maintained consistently and well and not extensively modified they are great cruising boats. I have lived aboard mine now for 3 + years and she was and still is in pristine condition and has been a great boat.  (ok the hull needs to be painted)

So having said that, Yes a Mango in great shape is a solid boat. However any boat that has been neglected should be avoided. Hire a good surveyor that knows these boats, and go into it with your eyes open and with as much of that particular boats problems identified. Any 53 foot  boat can be a money pit during a refit and repair.
 
An easy way to rule out a potential boat (before hiring a surveyor) is look at the wiring, bilges and the engine room. If they are not in near perfect order, I would avoid looking any further into any vessel that fails that initial sniff test. 

Just my 2 cents  from a Mango owner.

- Arlo
1985 Mango Hull # 46


Mango Refit?

Carles Dolz
 

Hello to all!

We are a couple looking for a sailboat to live aboard within some years and perhaps crosse some oceans. Obviously, we have on the radar the Amels, perhaps a Santorin (the SM are a bit of of ou budget).

Some days ago I found an old Mango for sale near home from 1980, and we visit it. The boat is in a better condition than we expected, the wood inside is in good condition, no leaks from the port-holes, some glued carpet in the floors, upholstery old fashioned but in good condition. The deck seems had be painted, the hard dogger is ok... One owner.

Seems as if this boat have with the same equipment from factory: engine is a Perkins, no genset. Old bow thruster type. No furling genoa or main sail, agged electronics... During visit the broker tell us that don't know the boat's history, and nothing about the maintenance, engine condition...(he don't found the engine keys)

The boat have osmosis, I don't know how serious it is. Perhaps I can have a very good discount on his low asking price.

Apart of the osmosis treatment, engine rebuild, and other specialized works, I can make many of the jobs myself.

So, I my main doubt now is if its a good idea to do the refit of this boat or to leave pass and go for a smaller Santorin around 100k €. One of my concern is that I like the easy management of sails on the newest Amels (Santorin) with his furling sails with electric engines, and I don't want to have to go to the mast to control halyards, reefs,..

What do you thing: the Mango is a model that deserve such refit? The furling main sail is a must? Things that I should check before buy?

Best regards


Re: Super Maramu interior upgrades

karkauai
 
Edited

We modified the settee so that the back can recline a little, and added pullout footrests.  It is much more comfortable to sit in than before.  We are adding a mini projection TV above the settee and a pull down screen for watching movies.  The screen will be removed while sailing and stored wrapped in a blanket with the emergency tiller.
Also added a tool storage area in forward hanging locker and drawer under bottom step of companionway ladder.

When all is finished I'll post pics.
--
Kent & Iris
KRISTY
SM243

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