Date   

Re: Searching for outdoor, motion activated 24V LED light for stern arch

Scott SV Tengah
 

Could you send a pic or the model number?

Have you ever considered angling it or putting tape on the sensor so that it only covers the transom forward? 

My understanding is that PIR sensors don't detect just motion, but rather detect infrared heat, so I'm surprised it picks up a dinghy at night!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive_infrared_sensor
--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: Depth Sounder Replacement in a SM 2000

Peter de Groot
 

Greetings all,
While cruising Mexico’s Pacific coast this year I had the Garmin Pan optic PS-51 forward sonar start to behave irregularly and ultimately overheat and fail. Garmin replaced it on warranty but I spent several weeks anchoring about in different bays with no depth readings available at the helm. My take-away from this experience is to have a back up available whether it be an on-board spare replacement transducer, or a complete functioning back up system.

BTW: a toilet plunger with a diver underneath worked great for minimizing the water entry when we exchanged the transducer.

Peter de Groot
La Querida SM207
Barra de Navidad, Mexico


Re: Searching for outdoor, motion activated 24V LED light for stern arch

Ian Townsend
 

We have a motion activated solar light on the arch. It works well. However, the motion sensor is sensitive. You must ensure there is nothing back there to constantly trip the sensor. If you keep your dinghy in the water overnight then the sensor can be activated by the dinghy itself or the davit lines.

Ian & Margaret
Loca Lola II
SM153

On Mar 21, 2021, at 9:35 AM, Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...> wrote:

Hey Amelians,

I figure someone has found/installed a motion-activated 24v LED light. We would like to have it there so that when we dinghy back at night and hop on the swim step, the light comes on for say, 30 seconds. That's the primary use but, of course, it would function as a security light, too.

A few more features I'd love to have:

- IP68 waterproof or better
- Mounts easily on 2 inch / 5cm stainless tubing
- Wide enough sensor coverage so the light will come on if you step anywhere on the stern. But not so sensitive that waves trigger it.
- 24v as I have that wiring in place, already. Solar would be ok, too.
- Only comes on if it detects motion at night.

Anyone find/install anything that meets these requirements?

Thanks!

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Deck light / Steaming light SM2000

Tim Melbourne
 

My old one did that, too.  
Super advice, thank you and thanks for the photo, too- super helpful. 
-Tim
SM2K #306


Re: Searching for outdoor, motion activated 24V LED light for stern arch

Matt & Michelle Day, SM#208 SV Talia
 

Scott,

I am still building my marine experience, so you are far ahead of me.  From a terra-firma perspective, motion sensors are used for their greater range verses IR sensors.  IR sensors tend to get pretty expensive to pick-up a person/animal in a large back yard in the US.

I like your security idea, and by no means was intending to insinuate you eliminate that option.  My thought process was that a 4-6 output IP68 digital switch (~$200) would give you many options to do both with flexibility and ease of install/maintenance. 

For example, you could use the digital switch to:
1. Turn the light on manually with a simple wifi gateway and your cellphone (tender arrival) or some external device (i.e. FOB)
2. Turn the light on with a motion/IR sensor as a first alert sensor when on the boat (when you are on the boat)
3. Turn the light on when unwelcome guests board, but also send you a cellphone alert if the companionway hatch is opened (when you are away form the boat)
4. Send a cellphone alert if your bilge is running at a set 'excessive' rate  

Maybe more than you want to take on, just what I have been noodling lately as an option for Talia.

Matt
SM#209 - Talia


Re: Searching for outdoor, motion activated 24V LED light for stern arch

Scott SV Tengah
 

Matt,

My understanding was that passive infrared sensors, the type normally used, detect heat emitted by humans/animals, not motion. Some of them have sensitivity adjustments too, just haven't been able to find a 24v one! The human detection part is to detect both us and unwelcome guests. :)

Your solution could work if you don't need the unwelcome guest detection. Make sure it's well sealed against the elements and won't go crazy with all the interference on a boat. Our Simpson davits came with a remote controller and the receiving unit would sometimes randomly lift or lower the dinghy. 

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: Depth Sounder Replacement in a SM 2000

 

I think all of the B&G Hydra depth transducers installed when SMs were new were 38mm. 

B&G makes a 51mm 2" depth transducer that is also forward looking sonar. Something to think about with a new B&G System

image.png
image.png

Your wallet might suffer. But I know I would love to have this with a new B&G suite.


CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 1:36 PM Matt & Michelle Day <charlesmatthewday@...> wrote:
Chris,

I cannot speak to your hull number (we need Bill's expertise).  We are hull number 209.

The AMEL installed transducer at the fwd head is 38mm diameter.  The new transducer (DST810 and DX900) is 51mm diameter.  I refuse to leave the old thru hull, so I will oversize the exiting for the new install. 

Matt
SM209 Talia


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Deck light / Steaming light SM2000

Mark Erdos
 

One more thought on this. It is a good idea to add washers to the screws holding on the deck light part. My new one was slapped with the halyard and came apart (made in China). The screws pulled through the plastic housing.

 

mast light.JPG

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tim Melbourne
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2021 6:05 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] [Amel Yacht Owners] Deck light / Steaming light SM2000

 

Mark, Alan,
My steaming/deck light just self-destructed.
Did the holes line up for this new unit versus the original Amel installed, or did you have to drill any new holes in the mast? 
Thanks
Tim
SM2K #306


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Deck light / Steaming light SM2000

Mark Erdos
 

Hi Tim,

 

Mine fit perfectly and the holes aligned. 3 wires – easy peasy. It is mounted with pop rivets. I carefully drilled out the old ones and had no issue getting the new one to align.  

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tim Melbourne
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2021 6:05 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] [Amel Yacht Owners] Deck light / Steaming light SM2000

 

Mark, Alan,
My steaming/deck light just self-destructed.
Did the holes line up for this new unit versus the original Amel installed, or did you have to drill any new holes in the mast? 
Thanks
Tim
SM2K #306


Re: Depth Sounder Replacement in a SM 2000

Matt & Michelle Day, SM#208 SV Talia
 

Chris,

I cannot speak to your hull number (we need Bill's expertise).  We are hull number 209.

The AMEL installed transducer at the fwd head is 38mm diameter.  The new transducer (DST810 and DX900) is 51mm diameter.  I refuse to leave the old thru hull, so I will oversize the exiting for the new install. 

Matt
SM209 Talia


Re: Depth Sounder Replacement in a SM 2000

Eloi Bamberg
 

I am changing my navigation electronics at the moment. I ordered the Airmar UDST800, no moving parts, less power consumption than the DX900 (125mA instead of 400mA) and i think as cruiser i don't need necessarily to mesure the lateral speed through the water.
Eloi
Red Lion
SM2K 426


Re: Depth Sounder Replacement in a SM 2000

Chris Doucette
 

Matt- Thanks for the reply-

So, from your experience you think I will have to replace my ST850 P17 houseing to accomidate the DST800 I linked or the DST810?
It says ut us a 2" houseing. 

Chris


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Deck light / Steaming light SM2000

Ken Powers SV Aquarius <ken@...>
 

OK, I made a mistake.  I bought the light listed below to replace the Deck and Steaming light:

Aqua Signal Series 43 Masthead/Foredeck Mast Mount Led Combo Light - 12v/24v - White Housing

SKU: AQS3108202000

It was about $420 at Hodges Marine Sales.

Best,

Ken Powers


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Deck light / Steaming light SM2000

Ken Powers SV Aquarius <ken@...>
 

I bought the same light for my steaming and deck light, but have not installed it yet.   It will not fit the same holes, and due to the fact that the SM has the Deck light mounted lower than the Steaming light, the wiring will also need a bit of work.  So, expect to do a bit of rewiring, and new mounting holes for the rivets on your new LED lights.  But, it should look and work wonderfully for the next few years.

Best,

SM2K#262
Aquarius
Ken Powers


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Deck light / Steaming light SM2000

Tim Melbourne
 

Mark, Alan,
My steaming/deck light just self-destructed.
Did the holes line up for this new unit versus the original Amel installed, or did you have to drill any new holes in the mast? 
Thanks
Tim
SM2K #306


Re: Searching for outdoor, motion activated 24V LED light for stern arch

Matt & Michelle Day, SM#208 SV Talia
 

Scott,

Michelle and I will be doing something similar in the near future.  In addition, I would like to add the ability to turn on the mizzen light on command as well, upon return to the boat.

We are looking at moving to a digital switch to perform both functions.  With the digital switch we can use any marine light we want, and use a remote (key fob, garage door opener, etc) to carried with us on the dinghy.  Simple tap into switched 12/24V, a little programming of the relay, and routing to device.

I think it cleaner than dealing with motion sensors on a moving vessel.

Matt


Re: Depth Sounder Replacement in a SM 2000

Matt & Michelle Day, SM#208 SV Talia
 

Chris,

All the major electronics brands use the Airmar sensors.  All will work on your NMEA2K network.

We elected for a DST810 sensor with the paddle wheel.  Now Airmar has recently brought out the DX900 that is all ultrasonic.  Seems like a cool piece of kit...lower maintenance for sure.  However, I can't seem to find one in stock in the market, and the quoted prices are at least 2X the DST810.

I am now questioning if I change to the DX900, or just have a spare DST810 (clean it in my own time after change).

Either way you will have to replace the original thru hull with a larger unit. We opted for the bronze unit because I just don't like the idea of a plastic fitting as a critical component. 

Matt  


Re: Depth Sounder Replacement in a SM 2000

Eric Freedman
 

Hi Chris,

Airmar also makes a speed transducer that does not have a paddle wheel.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io On Behalf Of Chris Doucette
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2021 10:49 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Depth Sounder Replacement in a SM 2000

 

As most of my sailing instramentation and hardware is now NMEA 2000, the last two sensors I need to address are the transducers (Depth, Temp, Speed).  After these I can Retire my Hydra 2000 and all the assicated mountain of wires.

I have three devices in the forward hallway floor hatch- all of them seem to be analog and designed to connect to the Hydra. 
1) Some small temperature sensor transduces that is not hooked up.
2) A "small diameter"  depth sounder (two wires pins 29,30 oh hydra) with a cable that has Airmar tranducer printed on it.
3) A "Larger diameter" Airmar ST850 device (Speed and Temp) (ST850-INS-BG P/N: 31-590-23-02)

I "think" that the ST850 device is a P17 housing ( 51mm or 2") from searches. 



Proposed soluton-
There is this device that seems like it could be fit for replacing the ST850 that has NMEA 2K Speed, Depth, and Temp.  
https://www.westmarine.com/buy/simrad--dst800-nmea-2000-thru-hull-traditional-transducer--12019311?recordNum=7

Am I correct that this would work? I am sure otherse here have done something simalar-   I also think Brian for Delos may have for instance.  
Am I not thinking of something or have this all wrong?  What have you done?

Thank you !

Chris 
S/V Amarok #385


Depth Sounder Replacement in a SM 2000

Chris Doucette
 

As most of my sailing instramentation and hardware is now NMEA 2000, the last two sensors I need to address are the transducers (Depth, Temp, Speed).  After these I can Retire my Hydra 2000 and all the assicated mountain of wires.

I have three devices in the forward hallway floor hatch- all of them seem to be analog and designed to connect to the Hydra. 
1) Some small temperature sensor transduces that is not hooked up.
2) A "small diameter"  depth sounder (two wires pins 29,30 oh hydra) with a cable that has Airmar tranducer printed on it.
3) A "Larger diameter" Airmar ST850 device (Speed and Temp) (ST850-INS-BG P/N: 31-590-23-02)

I "think" that the ST850 device is a P17 housing ( 51mm or 2") from searches. 



Proposed soluton-
There is this device that seems like it could be fit for replacing the ST850 that has NMEA 2K Speed, Depth, and Temp.  
https://www.westmarine.com/buy/simrad--dst800-nmea-2000-thru-hull-traditional-transducer--12019311?recordNum=7

Am I correct that this would work? I am sure otherse here have done something simalar-   I also think Brian for Delos may have for instance.  
Am I not thinking of something or have this all wrong?  What have you done?

Thank you !

Chris 
S/V Amarok #385



Re: Jib sheet traveller - resource for new spiral springs or rubber buffers

Michael & Robyn
 

Greetings!

try https://euromarinetrading.com/
this is where we got our ANTAL spare parts. Very responsive, very knowledgeable.
--
Michael & Robyn

SY RIPPLE SM2K # 417

3481 - 3500 of 60516