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Re: unknown items

Mike Johnson
 

Hi Eloi,

The bottom one links the mizzen lifting line with the metal ‘D’ fitting at the end of the boarding ladder to support it above the level of the dock.

Very best wishes

Mike & Peta

Solitude
SM 461

On 26 Mar 2021, at 21:29, Eloi Bamberg <eloi.bamberg@...> wrote:



Hallo, does anybody know what these items are for ? (not the tape measure :-) )
The long one is a double sandow.

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regards,
Eloi
SM2K 426 Red Lion


Re: Steering wheel removal

 

This may help you, especially if you have an AutoProp and AutoProp puller.
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CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 2:15 PM Slavko Despotovic <slavko@...> wrote:
Hello,

is there easy way to remove the steering wheel on SM. I have removed the part with Henry Amel signature, and removed the screw. From here I do not know as the wheel is firm in place. I do not what break anything so advice will be helpful. Wheel will be send to company that will put new leather  cover.
--
Slavko
SM 2000
#279 Bonne Anse in Portoroz


Re: unknown items

Courtney Gorman
 

Look like things used to lift the dingy out of the water at night using a halyard 
Cheers 
Courtney 
svTrippin


On Mar 26, 2021, at 5:29 PM, Eloi Bamberg <eloi.bamberg@...> wrote:



Hallo, does anybody know what these items are for ? (not the tape measure :-) )
The long one is a double sandow.

<unknown devices.jpg>


regards,
Eloi
SM2K 426 Red Lion


unknown items

Eloi Bamberg
 

Hallo, does anybody know what these items are for ? (not the tape measure :-) )
The long one is a double sandow.



regards,
Eloi
SM2K 426 Red Lion


Re: asymmetrical spinnaker

Alan Leslie
 

Hi All,

Sorry, I don't have any pictures. I haven't been on Elyse since March 2020.
We don't have a furler for our asymetrical spinnaker, we have a hoop and sock for dousing it.
The whole assembly like a sausage is hauled up with the halyard. Then there is a continuous line that is used to hoist the hoop and sock to the top of the halyard and the sail comes out. Dropping it is the reverse. Run off with the main out so the sail collapses in front of it, pull down the hoop and sock, lower the sausage with the halyard.
When we had a code zero type sail it was on a furler on it's own stay. The top end had a swivel to attach to the spinnaker halyard, which was hoisted with the halyard and then unfurled - it was simple arrangement.

Cheers
Alan
Elyse Sm437
 


Re: Primary headsail sheet winches

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Thanks Ken, sharing is knowing. 

Danny

On 26 March 2021 at 22:34 Ken Powers SV Aquarius <ken@...> wrote:

On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 01:49 PM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS wrote:
e oil seal. Unfortunately because the motor is well sealed there is no way to know the seal is leaking until damage is do
Thanks Danny!  

This type of information really helps!


Steering wheel removal

Slavko Despotovic
 

Hello,

is there easy way to remove the steering wheel on SM. I have removed the part with Henry Amel signature, and removed the screw. From here I do not know as the wheel is firm in place. I do not what break anything so advice will be helpful. Wheel will be send to company that will put new leather  cover.
--
Slavko
SM 2000
#279 Bonne Anse in Portoroz


Re: Insurance

Mark Erdos
 

Thanks Miles. Good to know.

 

It doesn’t surprise me that it is less than the Jackline policy. I recently shopped insurance and found Jackline to be the absolute highest rates. They were about 30% higher from the next highest quote. Also, they required a full out of water survey (not an evaluation survey) and complete rigging inspection adding substantially to the initial cost of the policy. Also, the policy was due 100% up front and 70% of it was non-refundable.

 

I remained with Topsail. I was with Y-Yacht that merged with Topsail last year. As an OCC member, I get a 10% discount on the premium as Topsail is the preferred agency for the OCC group.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Miles
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 6:15 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Insurance

 

Hi Kent and Mark,

 

The underwriter is Travelers.  The policy is significantly less than Jackline, but mine only covers the US east coast and the Caribbean (including Bermuda.   

 

Miles Bidwell, s/y Ladybug sm 216


Re: asymmetrical spinnaker

Alex Comer-Crook
 

Alan I would like to see some pictures as well please - especially how you connected the furler at the top of the mast if you have that?

This is interesting to me as I have looked into doing this previously (not on an Amel) and was told by a rigger that I would need to add a crane due to the masthead rig setup and then it would only handle a furling asymmetrical - not a code zero due to the additional loads and potential of getting it caught on the forestay during furling. This was on a Selden mast and the crane part (https://support.seldenmast.com/files/1498459501/597-207-E.pdf) seems to confirm this as it specifically states "Only for use with gennakers, not Code 0 sails".

Thanks,
Alex


Re: Insurance

Miles
 

Hi Kent and Mark,

 

The underwriter is Travelers.  The policy is significantly less than Jackline, but mine only covers the US east coast and the Caribbean (including Bermuda.   

 

Miles Bidwell, s/y Ladybug sm 216


Re: asymmetrical spinnaker

Grant Starling
 

Paulo/Alan,

if you can please post a photo of the Dynema loop connection to the bow roller and the block location.  Just looking at ordering an asymmetrical so would be great to incorporate you design...

cheers
Grant


Re: SIMPSON SERIES 8 DAVITS - electric shock

Stefan Schaufert
 

Dear Electricans,

thx a lot for your hints and thoughts.

I checked a bonding of the Davits. No bonding to see + more then 5K ohm between bonding and davits, no bonding in the wiring diagram. Motors are with 24V (mostly 26V).
I checked the residual current protection switches. They are working/ ok - and 220V is obviously not relevant.
Inverters are turned off most off the time (only on for hot water, cooking, with generator for washing machine, dryer or dishwasher) and both ALWAYS turned off when using the davits.
No unusual corrosion so far.
No electrical leaks (since appr. 1,5 years). Detector is working.

That is why it is a riddle (at least for me) and interesting to solve it.

Best regards
Stefan
A54 #119 Lady Charlyette, currently Eleuthera


Re: Galley sink drain

Alan Leslie
 

Hi folks,

After all this discussion, my current idea is to use one of those shower sumps under the floor below the galley sink and plumb the outlet to a thru-bulkhead connector into the engine room, then run a hose from that to Tee into the bilge pump outlet hose near the thru hull.
That way we can pump the galley sink overboard without going into the grey water sump and also without putting in another thruhull.
If I ever get back to Elyse, that's what I'll do.....unless there's something I haven't considered which would make it a good reason not to....

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437
 


Re: Primary headsail sheet winches

Ken Powers SV Aquarius <ken@...>
 

On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 01:49 PM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS wrote:
e oil seal. Unfortunately because the motor is well sealed there is no way to know the seal is leaking until damage is do
Thanks Danny!  

This type of information really helps!


Re: SIMPSON SERIES 8 DAVITS - electric shock

Bill Kinney
 

With all the dampness around a boat, I think it is fair to say that it can NOT be a static discharge from friction.

I have to disagree with the assumption that you can never feel a "shock" from 24VDC.  It is true you will not receive a dangerous amount of current, but under the right conditions you most certainly can receive a shock more than strong enough to feel.  I know I  have when working around batteries and bridged across the terminals with an arm wet with sweat. I wouldn't describe it as painful or scary, but it certainly is enough to get your attention. If you have a good path between the battery positive and across your body to battery negative you will feel a significant tingle, sometimes even from 12 volts. All it takes is a bit of dampness on each contact point, and it really helps if the damp has some salt in it.

Your boat has an ELCI installed as the master shutoff breaker, so you should already be protected against hazardous shocks from 220V.  But it is always a good idea to test these regularly.  They DO go bad.  And some of these devices do not work well with all types of inverters.  If you push the "test button" it should trip.  It is also possible, that post-factory wiring modifications could have bypassed this device or rendered it ineffective.

You are correct to worry about the consequences if it is 220 Volts.  That would be dangerous.  The next time you feel the shock, turn off any inverter, and stop the generator.  If you still feel the shock, it must NOT be 220V.  A multimeter will also tell you the voltage of the leaking current, without putting your body into the circuit!

These issues can be infuriating to track down, the ability to feel the shock can be very dependent on conditions, and the leaking current might come and go in complicated ways that are hard to piece together.

If the leaking current is from 24 Volts it is not dangerous to you, but it can cause serious corrosion issues to the boat. It is telling you tht the bonding/grounding system is not working correctly, and in fact might have multiple problems.  This is the most likely source of what you are feeling.

A 220V leak is unlikely, but it true, it is the other way round:  unlikely to damage the boat, but dangerous to you.  Becasue of this the possibility can't be ignored.


Re: Amel logos

Craig Briggs
 

Good deal - last year when I bought for several of us it was $65 for a set of two. (Plus $10 shipping)
--
SN68 Sangaris, Tropic Isle Harbor, FL


Re: Amel logos

Eric Freedman
 

Yesterday I called the printer that made the logos for the group last time and he asked $30- for each logo. Sounds like bargain.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io On Behalf Of Mark Erdos
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2021 5:22 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Amel logos

 

Perhaps someone could upload the Amel logo file to this group?

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Larry Salibra
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2021 8:02 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Amel logos

 

I’d love to get new Amel decals too! Will drop you an email Bill for the vector file.

Larry
SM140, Sula
Hong Kong


Re: Amel logos

 

I uploaded everything I have to folder: Amel Logos - Decals & Info
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 4:36 PM Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:
I will do it.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 4:12 PM Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:

Perhaps someone could upload the Amel logo file to this group?

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Larry Salibra
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2021 8:02 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Amel logos

 

I’d love to get new Amel decals too! Will drop you an email Bill for the vector file.

Larry
SM140, Sula
Hong Kong


Added Folder /Amel Logos #file-notice

main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification <noreply@...>
 

CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> added folder /Amel Logos


Re: Amel logos

 

I will do it.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 4:12 PM Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:

Perhaps someone could upload the Amel logo file to this group?

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Larry Salibra
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2021 8:02 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Amel logos

 

I’d love to get new Amel decals too! Will drop you an email Bill for the vector file.

Larry
SM140, Sula
Hong Kong

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