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Re: Change of black water valve Amel 54

Alain Durante
 

Merci Mark !

 

Cordialement,

 

Alain Durante

Meige Amel 54

 

De : main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> De la part de Mark & Debbie Mueller via groups.io
Envoyé : mercredi 7 avril 2021 21:49
À : main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Objet : Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Change of black water valve Amel 54

 

The aft valve is 1 1/4" BSPP I believe the forward head is the same.  One of the guys that has changed the forward valve may respond or contact them directly to confirm.
--
Mark Mueller
Brass Ring  A54


Re: Best Video projector for SMs

Brian Riggs
 

Thank you to all who have replied so far!

Scott, I do remember your setup aboard Tengah, and that's what really started me thinking about purchasing something that would work for both. I thought this sounded fun from the first day I saw it.

Kent, I'm really interested in what your finished project looks like. If you're aboard KRISTY, would you be able to provide measurements of the opening including the depth?

Robert, I'll search into Miroir projectors.

Jose, good point about focal length of the lens. This was something I was planning to estimate with a throw of somewhere in the +/-10 to 11 feet range. The plan has been to incorporate audio into the house system. Audio is actually my strength. I'm no stranger to large venue concerts from an audio engineering perspective.

Very respectfully,
Brian K. Riggs
Future Amel Owner


Re: Fuel Bladders

Colin - ex SV Island Pearl
 

Hi Alan
Good to hear that you are soon able to get back to Elyse in NSW no doubt as part of the upcoming AU/NZ COVID travel bubble. Enjoy!
Best regards
Colin

On Thu, Apr 8, 2021 at 8:06 AM Alan Leslie <s.v.elyse@...> wrote:
Hi Colin,

We have the same setup and the jerry cans are very useful when there is no fuel dock.
The previous owner crossed the Atlantic and Pacific and never ran out of fuel.

Cheers
Alan
SM437 ...soon to return to Elyse in NZ !



--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445


Re: Fuel Bladders

Alan Leslie
 

Hi Colin,

We have the same setup and the jerry cans are very useful when there is no fuel dock.
The previous owner crossed the Atlantic and Pacific and never ran out of fuel.

Cheers
Alan
SM437 ...soon to return to Elyse in NZ !


Re: What is this pole for?

 

Yep and I believe that the enclosed bimini was made by SECTEUR BLANC in La Rochelle
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Wed, Apr 7, 2021 at 12:26 PM Tim Melbourne <tim@...> wrote:
Lacking any directions, I concluded it is used, more or less, as shown in the photo below.  
Note my 85" pole comes with and requires 2 half-length poles that hook between a single eyelet at the bottom of the base of the mizzen boom and the port & mizzen shrouds. The shrouds both have a nock pressed into them to hold the outside ends of the poles at the correct height, which you can see in the photo.
-Tim
SM2K #306


Re: Fuel Bladders

 

I had that issue in Gib. I told them I would fill them myself and on the boat. They agreed.
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Wed, Apr 7, 2021 at 3:36 PM rossirossix4 <rossidesigngroup@...> wrote:
Hi Bill,
That's been my experience so far as well although I do subscribe to Collins idea of topping of the tank when I have had a chance.  Backfired on me in Gibraltar.  Filled my tank, left Queensway to the fuel dock to discover they wouldn't fill jerrys.  Evidently enterprising individuals were filling them up and selling the duty free diesel to locals!
Bob, KAIMI SM429


Re: Diruptor circuit breakers

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good afternoon Dave, 

All my Diruptors were sold 3 years ago...  may be you are looking at on old link.  
Here is the up to date:  http://nikimat.com/parts_for_sale/

Sincerely, Alexandre



On Wednesday, April 7, 2021, 03:00:03 PM CDT, David Kurtz via groups.io <davidwkurtz@...> wrote:


I'm hunting for a 25 amp bipolar (2 pole) 230 volt circuit breaker for my SM2K.  Alexandre Uster von Baar, I see that you have a number of spare breakers from Nikimat.  I'd be interested in buying the lot of them as spares if the lot contains a 25 amp bipolar 230 volt. 

Dave Kurtz
SM2 #380
S/V Celtic Cross

Detroit, Michigan


Re: Fuel Bladders

rossirossix4
 

Hi Bill,
That's been my experience so far as well although I do subscribe to Collins idea of topping of the tank when I have had a chance.  Backfired on me in Gibraltar.  Filled my tank, left Queensway to the fuel dock to discover they wouldn't fill jerrys.  Evidently enterprising individuals were filling them up and selling the duty free diesel to locals!
Bob, KAIMI SM429


Re: Best Video projector for SMs

Scott SV Tengah
 

Brian,

Do you remember my setup when you came aboard? Can't recall the projector model right now, but I have it setup on port side on the shelf. I cut out the "fiddle" on the shelf to allow the projector to sit flat and then used the old metal bracket that previously held the DVD player to secure it.

On starboard, I have a 72" (1.82m) screen that is normally stored away and unroll it up UP and attach to a hook that I screwed into the underside of the roof. 

https://www.instagram.com/p/BtYrnUrhO0E/?igshid=6pwfw1dw6h51

That was an earlier iteration before I attached a hook to the underside of the roof. 

This is of course on a 54, but I'm guessing it would work on a SM.



--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Diruptor circuit breakers

David Kurtz
 

I'm hunting for a 25 amp bipolar (2 pole) 230 volt circuit breaker for my SM2K.  Alexandre Uster von Baar, I see that you have a number of spare breakers from Nikimat.  I'd be interested in buying the lot of them as spares if the lot contains a 25 amp bipolar 230 volt. 

Dave Kurtz
SM2 #380
S/V Celtic Cross

Detroit, Michigan


Re: Volvo penta D3 110 I-D

Scott SV Tengah
 

I had the exact same problem on our 2900nm passage from Hawaii to Tahiti. Imagine being in the doldrums and being afraid your engine is going to die!

https://amelyachtowners.groups.io/g/main/topic/77988991

The Volvo replacement switch is around 60 euros and since it's not sealed, will fail again. I plan to use a spade connector and stuff it with silicone grease. The emergency stop switch on my D3-110C is kind of in the path of the intake fan airflow. Not a great design.

I suggest all D3 owners check their emergency stop switch. Mine has been intermittent for 3 years.
 
--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: Change of black water valve Amel 54

Mark & Debbie Mueller
 

The aft valve is 1 1/4" BSPP I believe the forward head is the same.  One of the guys that has changed the forward valve may respond or contact them directly to confirm.
--
Mark Mueller
Brass Ring  A54


Re: Change of black water valve Amel 54

Scott SV Tengah
 

I replaced the BT seals about 4 months ago. If you have a big puller, it isn't too difficult. We couldn't source one in Tahiti so made one out of two steel bars we found in the dumpster (!!) and two long bolts/nuts.

Here's a thread I started about it:

https://amelyachtowners.groups.io/g/main/topic/78551423#55808


--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: What is this pole for?

Tim Melbourne
 

Lacking any directions, I concluded it is used, more or less, as shown in the photo below.  
Note my 85" pole comes with and requires 2 half-length poles that hook between a single eyelet at the bottom of the base of the mizzen boom and the port & mizzen shrouds. The shrouds both have a nock pressed into them to hold the outside ends of the poles at the correct height, which you can see in the photo.
-Tim
SM2K #306


Re: Fuel Bladders

Colin - ex SV Island Pearl
 

Hi Bob

Good to hear from you, and we trust you are doing well. I remember that Easter Sunday in 2019 very well when we chatted at Bequia. We had decided last minute on waking up that day not to spend another season in the Caribbean, and to sail directly to Panama departing that same day as it enabled us to transit the canal still in early May, plus sail all the Pacific Islands which we had not sailed before, plus still make it all the way back to Australia before COVID struck.

In answer to your question, we did not ever actually need all the extra 200L of fuel but always had emptied all of it into our tank before reaching our destinations. 

Please note we only filled those Jerry cans ahead of our longer trips and before spending 4 months in Indonesia (just in case) so 90% of the time they were empty on board in the locker and cleaned & dried out. Since we spent 4 months in Indonesia in many off the beaten tracks remote locations, where fuel was often black in colour, full of sticks, hairs and lots of dirt, and sold in old coke bottles on the side of the road from very dodgy suppliers we also filled all cans with good clean fuel in Australia, and so needed very little fuel all the way through till Singapore.

Having endured fuel issues on a previous yacht in Sydney Harbour and then almost been swept into a major car bridge in swift-running currents due to a fuel-related engine failure at the most difficult moment possible, I had become extremely cautious regarding fuel and so had fitted both dual Racor filters PLUS a large Fuel Polishing Unit ahead of leaving on our around the world trip. In addition, we also carried a portable WestMarine fuel filter and filtered all fuel when pouring from Jerry Cans into the main tanks, and then also periodically ran our large automatic fuel polisher to turn over all fuel in the main tank. This could rightly be seen by many here as overkill, however, that extra precaution, plus over-servicing the engine myself with good quality oils far more often than the engine manual suggested,  helped Lauren and I sleep better fortunately our little Yanmar 75HP always purred away happily all the way around the world never missing a beat.

Although we didn't ever need all that fuel I would do exactly the same again if we ever do another big lap.

Regards

Colin Streeter
ex Island Pearl II
Brisbane


On Thu, Apr 8, 2021 at 12:27 AM rossirossix4 <rossidesigngroup@...> wrote:
Hi Colin,
Last saw you as you were in your dinghy hanging onto our rail in Bequia to inform me of your decision to immediately move on through The Canal back to Austrailia. 

Just curious--even though you transfer from the cans to the tank when you can--by your calculations, did you ever need the extra fuel you carried?

Bob, KAIMI SM429



--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445


Re: Another secret question...

Jim Anderson
 

May I request to please be included in the list, if someone would wish to email me? I'll add my own, if not already there. capt.anderson"at"gmail"dot"com
Jim Anderson, SM384 Sirena Azul, Seattle


Re: Change of black water valve Amel 54

Alain Durante
 

Dear Arno,

 

Well I just called Amel and he said that does not matter if bronze or stainless as far as the valve is connected to the ground cable.

 

I am using stainless valve in my company and one particular design might be interesting because once it is connected to the tube and the pipe laminated in the hull it will be very easy to change the central part by removing 4 bolts only.

 

Here the link: https://www.bene-inox.com/fr/vanne-3-piece-femelle-1000-lbs-pn63-passage-integral-poignee-cadenassable-inox-316-gaz-npt-58163/

 

I will let you know if easy or not removing the bow thruster.  

 

Cordialement,

 

Alain Durante

Meige / Amel 54

 

De : main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> De la part de Arno Luijten via groups.io
Envoyé : mercredi 7 avril 2021 17:32
À : main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Objet : Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Change of black water valve Amel 54

 

Hi Alain,

I'm not sure about the stainless as the pipe that is laminated in the hull is probably bronze, I'm not sure. In theory the bonding cable to the anodes should protect the assembly but  it is quite the distance to the anodes. I think I would stick to bronze if available but that is more driven by ignorance then anything else.

When I removed the old valve I first removed the hose clamps but I did not try to get the hose off. There is very little room and barb that sits on the valve will rotate inside the hose when rotating the valve. Once the valve is unscrewed it is a bit easier too get the hose off.

I have not yet had the pleasure of removing the bowthruster That is on the list for next year hopefully. Or maybe for the hurricane season when the boat will be stored in Curacao.

Regards,

Arno


Re: Best Video projector for SMs

karkauai
 

I am currently working on this project now.  Wilk post pics and description when I'm finished.
Kent
SM 243 Kristy
St Michaels, MD USA

--
Kent & Iris
KRISTY
SM243


Re: Change of black water valve Amel 54

Arno Luijten
 

Hi Alain,

I'm not sure about the stainless as the pipe that is laminated in the hull is probably bronze, I'm not sure. In theory the bonding cable to the anodes should protect the assembly but  it is quite the distance to the anodes. I think I would stick to bronze if available but that is more driven by ignorance then anything else.

When I removed the old valve I first removed the hose clamps but I did not try to get the hose off. There is very little room and barb that sits on the valve will rotate inside the hose when rotating the valve. Once the valve is unscrewed it is a bit easier too get the hose off.

I have not yet had the pleasure of removing the bowthruster That is on the list for next year hopefully. Or maybe for the hurricane season when the boat will be stored in Curacao.

Regards,

Arno


Re: Change of black water valve Amel 54

Alain Durante
 

Merci Brent.

 

Cordialement,

 

Alain Durante

Meige / Amel 54

 

De : main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> De la part de Brent Cameron via groups.io
Envoyé : mercredi 7 avril 2021 15:44
À : main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Objet : Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Change of black water valve Amel 54

 

Unfortunately, I’ve had way too much experience with this task and I have found that better than pliers/spanners, or even chain wrenches, are the cheapie “oil filter” type rubber belt wrenches as they don’t mar up the fitting and the small amount of give that they have actually seems to help loosen the joint.  Best of all, they fit really easily into very tight spaces.  I have bought quite a few different types of wrenches (from huge channel lock spanners, to pipe wrenches to chain wrenches over the years but to get into some really tight spaces and these are the ones I keep in my portable plumbing toolbox now as I haven’t found big nuts/valves that I couldn’t loosen with them.  The price is right too ($5).  They also work well for oil filters!  

https://www.harborfreight.com/rubber-strap-wrench-set-2-pc-69373.html

I have had a few fittings that I really had to jump on to get off, and in those instances (before I thought to try these), I used a chain version of these but find that they don’t fit into as tight spaces, so I leave them on the wall rack in my workshop.  
https://www.princessauto.com/en/chain-oil-filter-wrench/product/PA0008248353

 

Brent

On Apr 7, 2021, 7:31 AM -0400, Arno Luijten <arno.luijten@...>, wrote:

Hi Alain,

Yes I do. Not a plesant memory I can say. You will need to find a tool (pliers/spanner) that can give you some leverage to turn the old valve off. I removed the lever first to use the remaining stub to get some grip on the old valve. Long arms are very welcome. And you will get bruises that are somewhat painfull.
I used Locktite Thread sealant to mount the new one. The tread is a straight thread. Try to get a bronze valve if you can. That can be very hard as not many shops sell them.

Just expect a struggle getting the old one off. You may be lucky and get it off more easy then I did. Do not forget to clean the threads with a wire-brush before putting on the new one.


Good luck!

Arno Luijten,
SV Luna,
A54-121


--
Brent Cameron

Future Amel Owner & Amel Owner Registry Moderator

Oro-Medonte, Ontario, Canada

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