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Recommendations for a Med Refit for Amel Maramu

Steve Hoefel
 

Amelians,
   For the past 19 years it has been my honor to care for a true Amel classic, Maramu #25.  She is as SV Trident Star alive and well sailing Mediterranean waters.  Over those years I have looked forward to each and every posting in this owners group.  Anticipating a near term refit I turn to this brain trust for recommendations for a serious refit location.  I am looking to update the standing rigging, adding a stainless arch and davits, a possible repower, and upgrading the sail plan.  La Rochelle seems an obvious choice, but my sailing grounds are more focused on the eastern end of the Med, so looking for other options.  Looking for someone and somewhere I can be part of the process.  TIA.

Steve Hoefel
sv Trident Star
Maramu #25


Re: ACMO v Kos Hama X rigging wire

 

Paul,

ACMO uses German wire and makes their own fittings, turnbuckles, etc. They make swage or mechanical fittings. They offer chrome-plated bronze turnbuckles or stainless steel turnbuckles with a bronze insert.

The primary reasons that ACMO should be considered the best supplier to Amel owners are:
  1. ACMO is the original supplier to Amel and has made standing rigging for Amel for at least the past 40 years
  2. ACMO has the exact measurements and specifications from Amel
  3. As Amel changes those specifications as they did twice for the Amel 54, ACMO is advised by Amel.
I am aware of at least 2 Amels that were re-rigged with something other than ACMO, where neither the rigger nor the owner was aware of Amel's updated changes to rigging wire size. If the owners had used ACMO, they would not had to change the newly installed rigging at their expense.

Bill

CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 11:00 AM Paul Osterberg <osterberg.paul.l@...> wrote:
Hello!
There s a claim that ACMO rigging wire are superior to other rigging wire, in what way is it superior? A common rigging wire is Hama X by Kos ( one of the largest wire producers )
Both Kos and ACMO are in 316 steel
Kos min breaking strength is for 10 mm wire 8400 kg
Acmo min breaking strength for 10 mm is 7900 kg ca 6% less.
Concerning stretch I have not found any info, but assume stretch rather linear to braking strength
Paul on SY Kerpa AM#259, Lagos Portugal 


ACMO v Kos Hama X rigging wire

Paul Osterberg
 

Hello!
There s a claim that ACMO rigging wire are superior to other rigging wire, in what way is it superior? A common rigging wire is Hama X by Kos ( one of the largest wire producers )
Both Kos and ACMO are in 316 steel
Kos min breaking strength is for 10 mm wire 8400 kg
Acmo min breaking strength for 10 mm is 7900 kg ca 6% less.
Concerning stretch I have not found any info, but assume stretch rather linear to braking strength
Paul on SY Kerpa AM#259, Lagos Portugal 


Re: White plastic "tube" standing rigging protection?

 

I recommend removing the white plastic wire covers. I also recommend not sailing with flogging sails.


CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 1:24 AM Ralph Heilig <ralph.heilig@...> wrote:
Hi guys, the plastic tubes were standard installed by AMEL factory when I bought my AMEL 54 #144 in 2010. They fell apart slowly after a couple of years due to intensive UV. When I was at AMEL yard in the Med for some refitting three years ago, I also asked to refit the damaged plastik tubes. Instead to refit the damged ones, they recommended to remove all of the plastic tubes since they just might produce rust. Now I have no more plastic tubes....


Re: Joel's presentation and Brunswick, GA

 

In Joel's defense, most Floridians rarely leave Florida and many believe the earth ends at the state line. I am pretty sure that Joel's denigration of Brunswick, Georgia was a spur-of-the-moment and unplanned comment. I don't think Joel ever makes spur-of-the-moment and unplanned comments. I have known him to be a man of few words.😀😀

And, Craig, you did not include the Free Happy Hour at the marina every day!🐒

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Sat, Apr 10, 2021 at 8:27 PM Craig Briggs via groups.io <sangaris=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Great presentation, Joel, BUT...
I can't believe your callous denigration of Brunswick, Georgia, USA as a place where you can't get a decent Hamburger (or, presumably, a Hot Dog) - 
how could you possibly have missed "Willie's WEE-NEE WAGON" with their WORLD FAMOUS WILLIE'S BURGER. I mean who else is going to "RELISH YOUR BUN". And it's walking distance from the marina and goes so well with the marina's 24/7 free beer, free happy hours and free Tuesday Bible study.
Seldom has there been a better life balance.
Cheers, Craig-
SN68 Sangaris, Tropic Isle Harbor, FL


Lofrans Tigris Windlass

Ian Park
 
Edited

Just replaced my windlass after removal, clean and service. I trapped a wire while bolting back it back down and found the up/down buttons no longer worked. The helm joystick worked fine.
On dismantling again I checked the voltage in the switches and there was non. The wires were still intact and I traced them back to the bow thruster locker and tested at the junction block. There is no voltage there either. Checking the Lofrans wiring diagram they indicate a 5 amp fuse for that part of the circuit. Does anyone know where it might be located?. The main wiring harness that includes the red + wire disappears into a deck conduit back to the area above the galley.
Does anyone have any information about this?



Ian
Ocean Hobo SN96
UK (Wales)


Re: White plastic "tube" standing rigging protection?

Alexander Hofmann
 

Hi Bob and Rob!

 

This remembers me to the days, before I left La Rochelle after 3 years after buying my ship. As a proud and happy Amel owner I wanted to have the standing rigging in ‘bright shiny white’ as the ship.

 

Now, almost 5 years later, I am really happy that all of this plastic nonsense has been removed by myself, by various riggers – or has just fallen off, for 2 important reasons:

 

  1. I am a sailor, a diver and an ocean lover, with respect for all the creatures in the water. They eat the small plastic parts from the rotten plastic rigging protection, and a lot starve and die from it. The small pieces are the worst, because they are swallowed by little fish and often fully block their digestion fully. I did not manage to get this stuff off without loads of parts fallen into the sea, although I really tried hardly.

 

  1. In between the shiny white plastic covers and the standing rigging you accumulate moisture, as well as any kind of dirt, which does not leave and leads to earlier corrosion. I am an engineer, specialized in material science, and corrosion protection made out my career as an entrepreneur, bringing environmental protection, sustainability and economic success together. My ship is still in Lanzarote, some 80 nm from Africa, and often in the ‘Calima’ wind which carries incredible amounts of sand with it. To this interesting mixture of corrosion stimulant on our standing rigging, we all add constantly a bit of sea water salt, without any chance to get washed off or dried. What we create is a wonderful corrosive media. This is not the road to success.

 

Never in my life – and the life of my ship – I will mount anymore this nonsense plastic covers.

 

I have installed a Kärcher K2 fixed in the cockpit locker with a high pressure tube for reaching the bow and the stern fully. Also I have a long prolongation tube, I can reach the main mast top with it. In the light of my explanations above you might understand why I have taken it onboard!

 

All the best, fair winds

 

Alexander Hofmann, SY Oceanica I, Amel54#156

 

 

 


Re: White plastic "tube" standing rigging protection?

Ralph Heilig
 

Hi guys, the plastic tubes were standard installed by AMEL factory when I bought my AMEL 54 #144 in 2010. They fell apart slowly after a couple of years due to intensive UV. When I was at AMEL yard in the Med for some refitting three years ago, I also asked to refit the damaged plastik tubes. Instead to refit the damged ones, they recommended to remove all of the plastic tubes since they just might produce rust. Now I have no more plastic tubes....


Joel's presentation and Brunswick, GA

Craig Briggs
 

Great presentation, Joel, BUT...
I can't believe your callous denigration of Brunswick, Georgia, USA as a place where you can't get a decent Hamburger (or, presumably, a Hot Dog) - 
how could you possibly have missed "Willie's WEE-NEE WAGON" with their WORLD FAMOUS WILLIE'S BURGER. I mean who else is going to "RELISH YOUR BUN". And it's walking distance from the marina and goes so well with the marina's 24/7 free beer, free happy hours and free Tuesday Bible study.
Seldom has there been a better life balance.
Cheers, Craig-
SN68 Sangaris, Tropic Isle Harbor, FL


Re: FW: Amel Owners Survey Results

Teun BAAS
 

In today’s, very interesting & informative, AYOG ZOOM meeting Joel POTTER also specifically warned for the escalating boat insurance problems and to make sure you are able to obtain cover BEFORE buying a boat.

 

It might not be a problem in EUROPE however it surely is a problem in USA, CARIBBEAN as well as in SOUTH PACIFIC.

See if your EUROPEAN carrier is willing to ensure you sailing in any of these waters without either excessive premiums and/or excessive (long/lat; named storms; calendar block out periods etc.) restrictions/conditions.

 

Best Regards Teun

SV AMELIT  A54  #128

 

COOMERA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA

April 10, 2021 14:37:39

 

You can follow AMELIT via this link: https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/display/AMELIT

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann-Sofie via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2021 11:29
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] FW: Amel Owners Survey Results

 

In Europe there is no problem to get an insurance.

This must be a US problem.

Hälsningar

Ann-Sofie Svanberg

 

 

Skickat från min iPhone



10/04/2021 kl. 18:19 skrev Teun BAAS <teun@...>:



Just attended this morning the OCC (Ocean Cruising Club) Annual Meeting.

 

During the meeting it was mentioned that it is becoming very difficult to obtain insurance for our boats and an ad hoc vote was taken asking if the OCC should get involved.

Abt. 83% voted YES; about 4% NO and 13% NO OPINION.

 

Clearly more & more boat insurance is becoming a problem but not every AMEL owner is aware of this right now until they are being declined for renewal.

 

We have a small group of AMEL owners researching the possibility of getting coverage where we are more involved/in control. Although we have had a respectable number of feed back on our survey so far we still would like to have more in order to have a meaningful discussion with re-insurance/front companies. The survey is completely confidential; with the exception of JB none of the research team members have access to the completed surveys!!!

Attached the survey results so far.

 

Therefore: IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY, please help us by filling out the survey at: https://kivfinance.typeform.com/to/weCULvfW 

 

 

Thanks

 

Best Regards Teun

SV AMELIT  A54  #128

 

In Storage on the hard in COOMERA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA

April 10, 2021 10:14:20

 

USA cell: +1 832 477 8842

AUSTRALIA cell: +61 5951 8909

 

You can follow AMELIT via this link: https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/display/AMELIT

 

 

 

From: Pauline Granel <pauline@...>
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2021 08:56
Cc: jb duler <jb@...>
Subject: Amel Owners Survey Results

 

Hi,

 

Thank you for answering the Amel Owners survey. Your participation is a great help.

 

You expressed interest in receiving the results.

JB asked me to send you the following report.

If you have any questions, you can contact jb@....

 

Best,

 

Pauline Granel

 

 

<Amel Owners Insurance Group Survey results.pdf>


Inside Tips - "How to work with a broker to Buy or Sell your Amel" - ZOOM also simulcast and recorded on YouTube - Sat, 04/10/2021 #cal-notice

main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Calendar <noreply@...>
 

Inside Tips - "How to work with a broker to Buy or Sell your Amel" - ZOOM also simulcast and recorded on YouTube

When:
Saturday, 10 April 2021
20:00 to 21:00
(GMT+00:00) Etc/GMT

Where:
Internet Worldwide at 2000 hours UTC

Organizer:
brouse@... 8323804970

Description:

All,

 

It is my true pleasure to announce our next ZOOM meeting for 10 April at 2000 UTC.

 

The Subject of this meeting is “How to work with a broker to Buy or Sell your Amel." Included will be tips from one of the world's most experienced Amel brokers, Joel Potter.

 

I asked Joel Potter to place some of his Amel knowledge and his love of the brand aside for this ZOOM meeting. I asked Joel to use his experience to help you understand how to best work with a yacht broker as a Buyer and as a Seller. I also asked him to provide you with some inside information and tips on how to work with any broker. I do not think that you will find this “inside information” and tips anywhere.

 

If you own an Amel, someday you will be selling her and a few tips can be worth thousands. If you plan on buying an Amel, chances are you will hear advice that will be “priceless.”

 

Joel Potter began his Amel selling career 40 years ago in 1981. Since that time and up to the present Joel has sold Amel yachts, almost exclusively. In 2015, Joel retired from selling new Amel boats after nearly 35 years of being Amels exclusive representative for all of North America in order to concentrate on selling preowned Amel boats.   

 

Joel has sold some Amels multiple times, first when they were new and up to 6 times as resales. Without a doubt, Joel knows Amels and he is one of the few brokers in the world that I recommend. Joel is amazingly linked to Amel and one of Amel’s biggest supporters. Joel has also personally owned two Super Maramus and an Amel 54.

Date and Time:

Amel Yacht Owners' Group April Gathering: Time: Apr 10, 2021 20:00 GMT

The zoom link is: 

To Join the Zoom Meeting, click on this link.
If you do not have ZOOM loaded on your device, this link will guide you through the process.

https://epfl.zoom.us/j/83328154757?pwd=NFRVOXNuRTI0ZTY4d09HOEZHVjFoZz09

 

You do not need the following if you use the link above
Meeting ID: 833 2815 4757 
Passcode: 550827

 

You can also view the meeting with YouTube either during the meeting or afterward.
YouTube link is:
 https://youtu.be/AiFLSZQGaIM


Re: FW: Amel Owners Survey Results

Ann-Sofie, S/Y Lady Annila
 

In Europe there is no problem to get an insurance.
This must be a US problem.

Hälsningar
Ann-Sofie Svanberg


Skickat från min iPhone

10/04/2021 kl. 18:19 skrev Teun BAAS <teun@...>:



Just attended this morning the OCC (Ocean Cruising Club) Annual Meeting.

 

During the meeting it was mentioned that it is becoming very difficult to obtain insurance for our boats and an ad hoc vote was taken asking if the OCC should get involved.

Abt. 83% voted YES; about 4% NO and 13% NO OPINION.

 

Clearly more & more boat insurance is becoming a problem but not every AMEL owner is aware of this right now until they are being declined for renewal.

 

We have a small group of AMEL owners researching the possibility of getting coverage where we are more involved/in control. Although we have had a respectable number of feed back on our survey so far we still would like to have more in order to have a meaningful discussion with re-insurance/front companies. The survey is completely confidential; with the exception of JB none of the research team members have access to the completed surveys!!!

Attached the survey results so far.

 

Therefore: IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY, please help us by filling out the survey at: https://kivfinance.typeform.com/to/weCULvfW 

 

 

Thanks

 

Best Regards Teun

SV AMELIT  A54  #128

 

In Storage on the hard in COOMERA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA

April 10, 2021 10:14:20

 

USA cell: +1 832 477 8842

AUSTRALIA cell: +61 5951 8909

 

You can follow AMELIT via this link: https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/display/AMELIT

 

 

 

From: Pauline Granel <pauline@...>
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2021 08:56
Cc: jb duler <jb@...>
Subject: Amel Owners Survey Results

 

Hi,

 

Thank you for answering the Amel Owners survey. Your participation is a great help.

 

You expressed interest in receiving the results.

JB asked me to send you the following report.

If you have any questions, you can contact jb@....

 

Best,

 

Pauline Granel

 

 

<Amel Owners Insurance Group Survey results.pdf>


FW: Amel Owners Survey Results

Teun BAAS
 

Just attended this morning the OCC (Ocean Cruising Club) Annual Meeting.

 

During the meeting it was mentioned that it is becoming very difficult to obtain insurance for our boats and an ad hoc vote was taken asking if the OCC should get involved.

Abt. 83% voted YES; about 4% NO and 13% NO OPINION.

 

Clearly more & more boat insurance is becoming a problem but not every AMEL owner is aware of this right now until they are being declined for renewal.

 

We have a small group of AMEL owners researching the possibility of getting coverage where we are more involved/in control. Although we have had a respectable number of feed back on our survey so far we still would like to have more in order to have a meaningful discussion with re-insurance/front companies. The survey is completely confidential; with the exception of JB none of the research team members have access to the completed surveys!!!

Attached the survey results so far.

 

Therefore: IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY, please help us by filling out the survey at: https://kivfinance.typeform.com/to/weCULvfW 

 

 

Thanks

 

Best Regards Teun

SV AMELIT  A54  #128

 

In Storage on the hard in COOMERA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA

April 10, 2021 10:14:20

 

USA cell: +1 832 477 8842

AUSTRALIA cell: +61 5951 8909

 

You can follow AMELIT via this link: https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/display/AMELIT

 

 

 

From: Pauline Granel <pauline@...>
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2021 08:56
Cc: jb duler <jb@...>
Subject: Amel Owners Survey Results

 

Hi,

 

Thank you for answering the Amel Owners survey. Your participation is a great help.

 

You expressed interest in receiving the results.

JB asked me to send you the following report.

If you have any questions, you can contact jb@....

 

Best,

 

Pauline Granel

 

 


Re: Super Maramu Cockpit Closing

Derick Gates SM2K #400 Brava
 
Edited

Victor,

Does this enclose the half cockpit or the whole cockpit? Is this the white rubberized material with clear plastic windows on the sides and back?  I have duplicates of the Bimini top and front side triangular windows, but am missing the rest of the enclosure, and would like to acquire the same. BRAVA is currently being stored on the hard in Cleopatra Marina near Preveza. 

Derick Gates
SM2K#400
Brava
derickgates@...


Re: Attention Victor Molero - Super Maramu Cockpit Closing

Elja Röllinghoff Balu SM 222
 

He Victor
I am intrestet too
Elja
SM Balu
Greece Kalamata



Von meinem iPhone gesendet


Attention Victor Molero - Super Maramu Cockpit Closing

Philippe Chatton
 

Hi Victor,
I am certainly interested!
Based in southern France (Antibes) and we will certain be around in May-June.
Pictures are welcome!
Cheers
Philippe - chattonp960@...

 

Le sam. 10 avr. 2021 à 15:23, VICTOR MOLERO <victor.moleroxx@...> a écrit :
Hello Amelians.
I am replacing the Amel original closing of the cockpit in our Super Maramu. If anyone is interested in the one being replaced I will be happy to give it to whoever wants to replace his. It is in very, very good conditions. Should anyone be interested, please contact me to send pictures, measures, etc. I am currently in Corfú, Greece and plan to sail to Italy and then France from may on. 
Best.
Victor
SM314 Alendoy


Inside Tips - "How to work with a broker to Buy or Sell your Amel" - ZOOM also simulcast and recorded on YouTube - Sat, 04/10/2021 20:00-21:00, Please RSVP #cal-reminder

main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Calendar <main@...>
 

Reminder: Inside Tips - "How to work with a broker to Buy or Sell your Amel" - ZOOM also simulcast and recorded on YouTube

When: Saturday, 10 April 2021, 20:00 to 21:00, (GMT+00:00) Etc/GMT

Where:Internet Worldwide at 2000 hours UTC

An RSVP is requested. Click here to RSVP

Organizer: Bill Rouse brouse@... 8323804970

Description:

All,

 

It is my true pleasure to announce our next ZOOM meeting for 10 April at 2000 UTC.

 

The Subject of this meeting is “How to work with a broker to Buy or Sell your Amel." Included will be tips from one of the world's most experienced Amel brokers, Joel Potter.

 

I asked Joel Potter to place some of his Amel knowledge and his love of the brand aside for this ZOOM meeting. I asked Joel to use his experience to help you understand how to best work with a yacht broker as a Buyer and as a Seller. I also asked him to provide you with some inside information and tips on how to work with any broker. I do not think that you will find this “inside information” and tips anywhere.

 

If you own an Amel, someday you will be selling her and a few tips can be worth thousands. If you plan on buying an Amel, chances are you will hear advice that will be “priceless.”

 

Joel Potter began his Amel selling career 40 years ago in 1981. Since that time and up to the present Joel has sold Amel yachts, almost exclusively. In 2015, Joel retired from selling new Amel boats after nearly 35 years of being Amels exclusive representative for all of North America in order to concentrate on selling preowned Amel boats.   

 

Joel has sold some Amels multiple times, first when they were new and up to 6 times as resales. Without a doubt, Joel knows Amels and he is one of the few brokers in the world that I recommend. Joel is amazingly linked to Amel and one of Amel’s biggest supporters. Joel has also personally owned two Super Maramus and an Amel 54.

Date and Time:

Amel Yacht Owners' Group April Gathering: Time: Apr 10, 2021 20:00 GMT

The zoom link is: 

To Join the Zoom Meeting, click on this link.
If you do not have ZOOM loaded on your device, this link will guide you through the process.

https://epfl.zoom.us/j/83328154757?pwd=NFRVOXNuRTI0ZTY4d09HOEZHVjFoZz09

 

You do not need the following if you use the link above
Meeting ID: 833 2815 4757 
Passcode: 550827

 

You can also view the meeting with YouTube either during the meeting or afterward.
YouTube link is:
 https://youtu.be/AiFLSZQGaIM


Re: Remote control for mizen furling

Bob Grey
 

I have same works well, flat batteries is the most common problem, the receiver is just below the mizzen which you found in the roof of the main cabin, the receiver in the aft lazzarette is for the swim platform.

Bob Grey
Renaissance 3
amel 55 #25


Re: White plastic "tube" standing rigging protection?

Bob Grey
 

Hi guys, It was on my 55 from the factory, stops the Genoa sheet from fraying against the SS stay, it all fell apart after 5 years from the UV, haven’t replaced it. I have been intending to but it’s low on my list of things to do.

Bob Grey
Renaissance III
AMEL 55 #25


Re: Best Sailrite flightcase storage in A54?

Alexander Hofmann
 

Hello Arno, Scott and Domenique,

Yes, funny indeed to exchange the few possible storage positions. Mine is under the front portside cabin's bed. But I think, Arno's suggestion is the best. Will think it over.
Fair winds - out of Covid

Alexander Hofmann. SY Oceanica I. Amel54#156

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