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Re: Warning about "UFOs"

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Gerhard,

you rightly say that there is little we can do about these lost containers because they float so low we cant see them, even if a good watch is being kept. The Amel bulkhead system is our friend. On the SM (which I know best) we have the collision bulkhead which seals off the anchor chain locker. The access port on mine is always closed. Then the gasketed door to the front cabin. We had a report in this last week of a SM being holed forward of this and by closing the door was able to restrict water ingress to the front cabin and make port safely. The water only rose to the level of the berths and the fore /aft trim of the boat was little affected. 

Another example of Henri Amels superb attention to design that matters.

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 11 May 2021 at 23:23 "Gerhard Mueller via groups.io" <carcode@...> wrote:

Gladefully it still don't have happened to me. But more and more container ships lost a large amount of containers at sea. They are called UFOs (Unidentified Floating Objects) and they are a real danger especially for sailing boats and fishing boats because even in moderate sea they are not seen or very late. Also the radar don't see them with no area above waterline. Since October 2020 and March 2021 more than 2,500 containers are lost. It is said about 12,000 containers are drifting in the oceans right now. Most of them goes to the ground when lost from the ship but others like reefer containers can float a very long time.

--
Gerhard Mueller
Amel Sharki #60
Currently Kalamata, Greece


Super Maramu anchored near Sint Maarten bridge

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good morning, 


If the owner of the Super Maramu anchor near the Simpson Bay bridge want to meet, needs ride for grocery shopping, etc. let me know.  


Sincerely, Alexandre


Super Maramu 2000 Secondary Saltwater Manifold made by SOFOMARIN of welded polypropylene pipe

 

As promised here is the order information for the Secondary Saltwater Manifold made by SOFOMARIN of welded polypropylene pipe.



Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


Re: Warning about "UFOs"

Aras Grinius
 

Never would have guessed that many.

Aras
Sharki #163 1988


On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 7:23 AM Gerhard Mueller via groups.io <carcode=me.com@groups.io> wrote:
Gladefully it still don't have happened to me. But more and more container ships lost a large amount of containers at sea. They are called UFOs (Unidentified Floating Objects) and they are a real danger especially for sailing boats and fishing boats because even in moderate sea they are not seen or very late. Also the radar don't see them with no area above waterline. Since October 2020 and March 2021 more than 2,500 containers are lost. It is said about 12,000 containers are drifting in the oceans right now. Most of them goes to the ground when lost from the ship but others like reefer containers can float a very long time.

--
Gerhard Mueller
Amel Sharki #60
Currently Kalamata, Greece



--
Aras Grinius


Warning about "UFOs"

Gerhard Mueller
 

Gladefully it still don't have happened to me. But more and more container ships lost a large amount of containers at sea. They are called UFOs (Unidentified Floating Objects) and they are a real danger especially for sailing boats and fishing boats because even in moderate sea they are not seen or very late. Also the radar don't see them with no area above waterline. Since October 2020 and March 2021 more than 2,500 containers are lost. It is said about 12,000 containers are drifting in the oceans right now. Most of them goes to the ground when lost from the ship but others like reefer containers can float a very long time.

--
Gerhard Mueller
Amel Sharki #60
Currently Kalamata, Greece


Re: Super Maramu length of the Long Pole

Arno Luijten
 

Hi John,

You mean when they are stored on deck? First time I’ve heatd about a Insurance company interfering at that level. 
On Luna the 2nd pole is in on deck and goes past the pushpit extending to about the same “forwardness” as the bowroller


Regards,
Arno Luijten,
SV Luna,
A54-121


Re: LiFePO4 Batteries, what they can do for you.

Regards Geoff Kidd - Hopefully on track to sign as SV KEYDAH Merchant
 

Thanks for your response Dan.

And apologies, Ken, for diverting from your original subject. I will apologise to your face when watching your next Aquarious video.


Re: Isolation of hull inside Amel54 or AmelSM - and hatches etc.

Ian Park
 

Electric blanket is AC powered working off the inverter.

Ian

Ocean Hobo SN 96


Re: Tender Amel 54

Scott SV Tengah
 

I'm away from the boat for the next few weeks but perhaps someone else on a 54 can measure for you.

One thing to consider with a large dinghy (if you intend on leaving the Med) is that not every place has a dinghy dock. We have had to drag our dinghy + 20hp Suzuki 4stroke onto the beach and it was very very difficult for 2 without wheels and now that we have wheels, can still be difficult depending on sand depth and beach incline.

On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 11:26 AM Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...> wrote:

Hi Scott;

 

Thanks for the information. We have a system of supporting the tender and the outboard on the Davits that has also has been proven. Our only concern, at this point,  is the fit on the aft sundeck for longer passages. 

 

We looked at and had the same concerns about the OCT.  We are thinking of the CL340 or CL360, and wondering if it can fit on the aft sundeck, without interfering with the Mizzen traveler or Mizzen winches. If you are on board, can you please provide a measurement from the back of the Mizzen mast to the Mizzen traveler? For us, the tubes protruding into the cockpit, during passages, would be a reasonable compromise, vs. the advantages the larger tender provides, since the tender will be on the Davits the majority of our cruising time.

 

 

Respectfully;

 

 

Mohammad Shirloo

+1-323-633-2222  Cell

+1-424-644-0908  Fax

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Scott SV Tengah via groups.io
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 8:14 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Tender Amel 54

 

We have the CL310 hypalon. It's a choice between two lesser evils. 

The 310 fits on the aft deck just perfectly for passages. I have it sit bow aft and the transom near the mizzen mast. Because we do not want the cockpit seats to be impacted, I make sure the tubes do not extend into the cockpit. The dinghy bow barely clears the mizen traveller.

Those who have made the CL340 fit must either put the dinghy at an angle or allow the tubes to extend into the cockpit?

That said, the CL310 does not fit on the davits perfectly. I had to fashion a lifting eye on the locker lid. A slightly longer dinghy would have been great for that purpose. 

I'm reasonably happy with the dinghy after nearly 3 years of use in the Med, Caribbean and Pacific. In the Med, you are probably ok with PVC but in the tropics, our PVC backup dinghy sees the sun 75% less than the CL310 is still suffering badly.

The OC tender seemed like a good option but we opted out for two reasons: (1) I have been told by owners that the ride can be jarring (2) The carrying capacity of the CL310 is around 50% more than the OC330. We dive a lot, have friends join now and then and have done some serious provisioning trips while at anchor in places where we can't tie up the big boat, so carrying capacity is important for us.

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: Amel 54 Secondary Saltwater Manifold made by SOFOMARIN of welded polypropylene pipe

Porter McRoberts
 

Amen Arno. 
Awesome Bill. Thank you!!

Porter McRoberts 
S/V IBIS A54-152
WhatsApp:+1 754 265 2206
Www.fouribis.net

On May 10, 2021, at 1:40 AM, Arno Luijten <arno.luijten@...> wrote:

If no one is going to do it I’ll do it for the community:

Thanks (again) Bill for putting in all this effort to make our Amels better en more reliable. Much appreciated!

Regards,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna 


Re: Super Maramu length of the Long Pole

 

John,

That would be the short poles, right?


CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 11:07 AM John Clark <john.biohead@...> wrote:
Annie's poles were reported to be shortened by original owner because the insurance company did not like them protruding past the rails.  I never measured them but they work fine.

John Clark
Annie SM 37
St Thomas, USVI

On Mon, May 10, 2021, 10:53 AM CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:
Dan,

I know of no such recommendation. I know that 1 SM owner (Hull before 200) says that he shortened his poles by 57.5 cm. to match the length of a SM2k. I am not sure that this statement from him is totally accurate. I doubt it but trying to determine the facts. And I am not sure of the length of the aluminum tubes on Feierabend SM #86. Can you give that to me? That may tell us all we need to know.

Here is SM444:
image.png
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 9:01 AM Dan Wilcox via groups.io <dwilcox123=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Bill,  

So is there a recommendation to shorten a long pole to be the shorter length for better storage and functionality?

Thanks, Dan
Feierabend SM #86

On Sunday, May 9, 2021, 02:53:54 AM PDT, Slavko Despotovic <slavko@...> wrote:


It is 467cm on Bonne Anse. End to end. The long pole.
-
Slavko
SM 2000
#279 Bonne Anse in Portoroz


Re: Super Maramu length of the Long Pole

John Clark
 

Annie's poles were reported to be shortened by original owner because the insurance company did not like them protruding past the rails.  I never measured them but they work fine.

John Clark
Annie SM 37
St Thomas, USVI

On Mon, May 10, 2021, 10:53 AM CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:
Dan,

I know of no such recommendation. I know that 1 SM owner (Hull before 200) says that he shortened his poles by 57.5 cm. to match the length of a SM2k. I am not sure that this statement from him is totally accurate. I doubt it but trying to determine the facts. And I am not sure of the length of the aluminum tubes on Feierabend SM #86. Can you give that to me? That may tell us all we need to know.

Here is SM444:
image.png
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 9:01 AM Dan Wilcox via groups.io <dwilcox123=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Bill,  

So is there a recommendation to shorten a long pole to be the shorter length for better storage and functionality?

Thanks, Dan
Feierabend SM #86

On Sunday, May 9, 2021, 02:53:54 AM PDT, Slavko Despotovic <slavko@...> wrote:


It is 467cm on Bonne Anse. End to end. The long pole.
-
Slavko
SM 2000
#279 Bonne Anse in Portoroz


Re: Spinnaker pole strut mast fitting ball joint replacement? #replacement

 

Nick,

It is hard to believe that an internet site anywhere fails to register the dns "www.website.fr" as well as the "website.fr"


The funny thing is yes I made a typo in the Amel Book, but if you were using the Online Amel Book and clicked on it the underlying link took you to their website.
I have corrected the "Space" to "Spar." A big thank you to you and Jean Boucharlat. Here is a snippet.

image.png

CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 6:12 AM Chris Doucette <amaroksailing@...> wrote:
Sparecraft doesnt show the ball and socket style in their catalog, however they show a cylindrical style with a socket-  it seems to me that if one were to buy these- replacing both the joining ends of the two poles you would end up with a desired result.  


On May 10, 2021, at 6:29 AM, Jean Boucharlat <jean.boucharlat@...> wrote:



Hello,

 

It in fact http://www.sparcraft.fr

 

All the best,

 

Jean Boucharlat

Formerly SM 232

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Nicolas Klene via groups.io
Sent: lundi 10 mai 2021 12:02
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Spinnaker pole strut mast fitting ball joint replacement? #replacement

 

Hello Bill
You might want to check the web site address (typo error ?) ,”spacecraft.fr” doesn’t exist but “sparecraft.fr” is still in activity but no sign of the poll ends there....
Kindest regards
Nick
--
Nicolas Klene
DarNico
SM2K # 471
In Marseille


Re: Tender Amel 54

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Hi Scott;

 

Thanks for the information. We have a system of supporting the tender and the outboard on the Davits that has also has been proven. Our only concern, at this point,  is the fit on the aft sundeck for longer passages. 

 

We looked at and had the same concerns about the OCT.  We are thinking of the CL340 or CL360, and wondering if it can fit on the aft sundeck, without interfering with the Mizzen traveler or Mizzen winches. If you are on board, can you please provide a measurement from the back of the Mizzen mast to the Mizzen traveler? For us, the tubes protruding into the cockpit, during passages, would be a reasonable compromise, vs. the advantages the larger tender provides, since the tender will be on the Davits the majority of our cruising time.

 

 

Respectfully;

 

 

Mohammad Shirloo

+1-323-633-2222  Cell

+1-424-644-0908  Fax

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Scott SV Tengah via groups.io
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 8:14 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Tender Amel 54

 

We have the CL310 hypalon. It's a choice between two lesser evils. 

The 310 fits on the aft deck just perfectly for passages. I have it sit bow aft and the transom near the mizzen mast. Because we do not want the cockpit seats to be impacted, I make sure the tubes do not extend into the cockpit. The dinghy bow barely clears the mizen traveller.

Those who have made the CL340 fit must either put the dinghy at an angle or allow the tubes to extend into the cockpit?

That said, the CL310 does not fit on the davits perfectly. I had to fashion a lifting eye on the locker lid. A slightly longer dinghy would have been great for that purpose. 

I'm reasonably happy with the dinghy after nearly 3 years of use in the Med, Caribbean and Pacific. In the Med, you are probably ok with PVC but in the tropics, our PVC backup dinghy sees the sun 75% less than the CL310 is still suffering badly.

The OC tender seemed like a good option but we opted out for two reasons: (1) I have been told by owners that the ride can be jarring (2) The carrying capacity of the CL310 is around 50% more than the OC330. We dive a lot, have friends join now and then and have done some serious provisioning trips while at anchor in places where we can't tie up the big boat, so carrying capacity is important for us.

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: Tender Amel 54

Scott SV Tengah
 

We have the CL310 hypalon. It's a choice between two lesser evils. 

The 310 fits on the aft deck just perfectly for passages. I have it sit bow aft and the transom near the mizzen mast. Because we do not want the cockpit seats to be impacted, I make sure the tubes do not extend into the cockpit. The dinghy bow barely clears the mizen traveller.

Those who have made the CL340 fit must either put the dinghy at an angle or allow the tubes to extend into the cockpit?

That said, the CL310 does not fit on the davits perfectly. I had to fashion a lifting eye on the locker lid. A slightly longer dinghy would have been great for that purpose. 

I'm reasonably happy with the dinghy after nearly 3 years of use in the Med, Caribbean and Pacific. In the Med, you are probably ok with PVC but in the tropics, our PVC backup dinghy sees the sun 75% less than the CL310 is still suffering badly.

The OC tender seemed like a good option but we opted out for two reasons: (1) I have been told by owners that the ride can be jarring (2) The carrying capacity of the CL310 is around 50% more than the OC330. We dive a lot, have friends join now and then and have done some serious provisioning trips while at anchor in places where we can't tie up the big boat, so carrying capacity is important for us.

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: FW: [AmelYachtOwners] Tender Amel 54

Scott SV Tengah
 

I have the Highfield CL310 Hypalon and the Simpson davits. After breaking a few of the lifting lines, here's what we do:

- Replaced the stainless lines with dyneema. Didn't pay Simpson the 4000 GBP or whatever silly amount they wanted to replace the internals to "accommodate dyneema". Simply replaced the stainless with dyneema and splice an eye into the dinghy end. Has worked fine for nearly 2 years and 15+ thousand miles.

- After I lift the dinghy, I simply put a dyneema soft shackle into the dinghy painter eye. I then put the securing ratchet strap through this eye, with one end connected to the stainless eye at the end of the davit and the other end is hooked to a line that I put right at the "armpit" of the davit. Crank it tight. The ratchet strap cannot slip off the bow unless the soft shackle breaks, which is very unlikely as I use a 6mm shackle. If you're really scared of chafe, put a dyneema chafe sleeve on the soft shackle, but the eye will probably rip off before the soft shackle breaks.

- For the stern end, put a short but stout (I use 8mm self made) soft shackle on the eye underneath the davit, near where the lifting lines exit. I use a bigger one on the stern because I usually keep my 44kg motor on. I then put a ratchet strap from one dinghy lifting eye through the soft shackle to the other lifting eye. Crank tight.

THEN, I release the davit lifting lines just a bit so there is almost no tension on them but if the ratchet strap / dyneema soft shackle system breaks, they can still act as a backup.

Hope this helps. 

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: Super Maramu length of the Long Pole

 

Dan,

I know of no such recommendation. I know that 1 SM owner (Hull before 200) says that he shortened his poles by 57.5 cm. to match the length of a SM2k. I am not sure that this statement from him is totally accurate. I doubt it but trying to determine the facts. And I am not sure of the length of the aluminum tubes on Feierabend SM #86. Can you give that to me? That may tell us all we need to know.

Here is SM444:
image.png
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 9:01 AM Dan Wilcox via groups.io <dwilcox123=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Bill,  

So is there a recommendation to shorten a long pole to be the shorter length for better storage and functionality?

Thanks, Dan
Feierabend SM #86

On Sunday, May 9, 2021, 02:53:54 AM PDT, Slavko Despotovic <slavko@...> wrote:


It is 467cm on Bonne Anse. End to end. The long pole.
-
Slavko
SM 2000
#279 Bonne Anse in Portoroz


Re: Super Maramu length of the Long Pole

Dan Wilcox
 

Bill,  

So is there a recommendation to shorten a long pole to be the shorter length for better storage and functionality?

Thanks, Dan
Feierabend SM #86

On Sunday, May 9, 2021, 02:53:54 AM PDT, Slavko Despotovic <slavko@...> wrote:


It is 467cm on Bonne Anse. End to end. The long pole.
-
Slavko
SM 2000
#279 Bonne Anse in Portoroz


Re: LiFePO4 Batteries, what they can do for you.

Dan Carlson
 

Good question Geoff,

We have not observed any impact, however, we've primarily used it at anchor, and only underway under very benign conditions as it is not secure. Although it seems to gimbal on the stovetop ok.

The instructions recommend that you not set it directly on metal stove top burners? So we put a cutting board in between. 

It generates a high frequency oscillating magnetic field, and a pan must be on it. If you lift the pan off to store or ?? It will beep and reduce power until pan is replaced. 

So the magnetic field decreases exponentially based on the distance.  

Our helm compass is about 2 meters away from the cooktop and the autopilot compass is even further.

This is not my area of expertise but I have worked with several different applications of magnetic fields and proximity was always the key. 

Best regards, Daniel Carlson on sv BeBe


On Mon, May 10, 2021, 6:39 AM Regards Geoff Kidd - Hopefully on track to sign as SV KEYDAH Merchant <gwk13@...> wrote:
Dan.

May I ask please whether your Induction Cooktop has any adverse effect on your main compass or your autopilot when you are cooking on it?


Re: Amel 54 Secondary Saltwater Manifold made by SOFOMARIN of welded polypropylene pipe

Arno Luijten
 

If no one is going to do it I’ll do it for the community:

Thanks (again) Bill for putting in all this effort to make our Amels better en more reliable. Much appreciated!

Regards,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna 

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