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Re: C- Drive oil

 

Pat, 

Either will work. 

Amel changed the spec from 10-40 to 80-90 gear oil about 6 or 7 years ago. I found out about it when we were in Martinique from Amel Martinique.

Logically, it should have been gear oil from the beginning because it is all gears just like the bow thruster lower unit or the lower unit on an outboard engine.

Bill



CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Sun, May 23, 2021 at 9:09 AM Arnold Mente via groups.io <Arnold.mente=me.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi Pat,

is is the same as for the engine 10-40 8 Liter.


Best

Arnold
SY Zephyr
SM 203

Am 23.05.2021 um 16:00 schrieb Patrick McAneny via groups.io <sailw32@...>:

Its been awhile and I can't remember what oil is now recommended for the C-drive 10-40 or 90 ,also can't remember how many qts.
Thanks,
Pat
SM Shenanigans


--
Arnold
SY Zephyr SM203


Re: C- Drive oil

Arnold Mente
 

Hi Pat,

is is the same as for the engine 10-40 8 Liter.


Best

Arnold
SY Zephyr
SM 203

Am 23.05.2021 um 16:00 schrieb Patrick McAneny via groups.io <sailw32@...>:

Its been awhile and I can't remember what oil is now recommended for the C-drive 10-40 or 90 ,also can't remember how many qts.
Thanks,
Pat
SM Shenanigans


--
Arnold
SY Zephyr SM203


C- Drive oil

Patrick McAneny
 

Its been awhile and I can't remember what oil is now recommended for the C-drive 10-40 or 90 ,also can't remember how many qts.
Thanks,
Pat
SM Shenanigans


Re: mounting 12" chart plotter

 

I removed the plotter except when motoring  or sailing. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse 
Amel Owners Yacht School
+1 832-380-4970 | brouse@...
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com 
Yacht School Calendar: www.preparetocastoff.blogspot.com/p/calendar.html


   

On Sun, May 23, 2021, 4:13 AM Rink De Haan <rinkdehaan@...> wrote:
Hi Eloi

I remove the plotter when I am not on the boat. It is connected to a WiFi Raymarine Doppler radar so I don’t need a cable for the radar. I only need power and NMEA2000. These 2 cables fit throug one scanstrut connection. 

Regards 
Rink

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone

Op 23 mei 2021 om 11:24 heeft Eloi Bamberg <eloi.bamberg@...> het volgende geschreven:

thanks for your help. but did you remove it to prevent from theft or had you found an other way to secure it? Did you resolder the cables in one plug?
regrads,
Eloi


Re: mounting 12" chart plotter

Rink De Haan
 

Hi Eloi

I remove the plotter when I am not on the boat. It is connected to a WiFi Raymarine Doppler radar so I don’t need a cable for the radar. I only need power and NMEA2000. These 2 cables fit throug one scanstrut connection. 

Regards 
Rink

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone

Op 23 mei 2021 om 11:24 heeft Eloi Bamberg <eloi.bamberg@...> het volgende geschreven:

thanks for your help. but did you remove it to prevent from theft or had you found an other way to secure it? Did you resolder the cables in one plug?
regrads,
Eloi


Re: mounting 12" chart plotter

Eloi Bamberg
 

thanks for your help. but did you remove it to prevent from theft or had you found an other way to secure it? Did you resolder the cables in one plug?
regrads,
Eloi


Re: Holding tank riser

Darren Moore
 

Thankyou Mike

Kind regards

Darren


On Fri, 21 May 2021, 21:15 Mike Ondra via groups.io, <mdondra=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

Hi Darren,

The fix you referenced we did a year ago and have had no problem since. What I like with this solution is the continuous sanitary hose all the way from the toilet to the top of the holding tank, no joints to leak.  Reaming out the deteriorated copper and fiberglass to allow for the insertion of the tube I found quite difficult until acquiring the proper tool. See the posting on 7/31/20 https://amelyachtowners.groups.io/g/main/message/53493?p=,,,20,0,0,0::Created,,aletes,20,2,40,75913168 for more details. One must also be meticulous about getting the resin completely around the pipe penetration from above so that it is fully sealed.  We did abandon the old riser inside the holding tank as we could not figure out a way to remove it without cutting an access port into the tank.

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Darren Moore
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2021 2:16 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Group Moderators <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Holding tank riser

 

Hi Tom and others on this forum,

 

Kaz and I are newby owners of our Super Maramu #171 and this is our first post to this amazing forum

 

I found a similar issue with our holding tanks this morning, it looks like there was a solid pipe through the bottom of the tank which then had a 35-40mm flexible pipe connected to it on the inside of the tank which went up to the top of the tanks and then curved over to point back down.

 

In both tanks the pipes have broken off on the inside of the tank, I'm thinking of replacing the pipe going through the bottom of the tank with a solid bronze pipe going up to near the top of the tank as in the modification suggested in this PDF

 

I like the idea of going into the side of the tank at the side as well, but do find going in the bottom neater.

 

I'd like to get the old flexible pipe out of the tanks as well, not sure if this is possible without cutting an inspection hole in the tank.

 

I'd be interested to hear about how you go about your modification.

 

Kind Regards

 

Darren and Karen

SV Tradewinds III

SM 171

Australia

 

On Thu, 20 May 2021 at 10:02, Thomas Kleman <lorient422@...> wrote:

My aft head holding tank riser has separated from the lower part of the copper fitting. So inflow to the holding tank enters at the bottom of the tank. Despite this, there is no leaking from the fitting.

I've read the various posts on fixes; replacing the fitting, mounting a smaller diameter pipe inside what remains of the original, etc.

One goal of the project would be to make it easier to maintain. If the idea is to have the black water enter at the top of the tank, I'm wondering if anyone has moved the inlet from the bottom of the tank to the upper side. This would have the benefit of allowing the hose to run outside of the tank and turn left, dramatically simplifying clearing clogs.

Anyway, I want to consider all possibilities before I open this can of worms.

Tom and Kirstin

SV L'ORIENT
SM2K 422
Tahiti


Re: After 14 months in the water

Germain Jean-Pierre
 

Hey Alan,

It was simple and easy to keep an eye on Elyse. We’re neighbours!

Cheers,

Jean-Pierre Germain, Eleuthera, SM007 , NZ 


On 23 May 2021, at 08:07, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:



Welcome back Alan.

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 22 May 2021 at 22:44 Alan Leslie <s.v.elyse@...> wrote:

Hello fellow Amelians, stranded by you know what,

Last week I flew to New Zealand from Australia to be reunited with my beautiful boat Elyse.

I thought some may be interested to know that after 14 months in the water, mostly everything is OK.

Mille merci a JP (Eleuthera SM007), who has from time to time kept an experienced eye on Elyse in Opua Marina.
I had her hauled out for a wash, pics attached, and I have to say this is an excellent advert for PROPSPEED...look at that prop...no movement for 14 months !!
I changed the oil and filters on the Yanmar and the Onan...both started easily, no problem....water flow fine 
The mainsail furls out and in easily as does the genoa, the main sheet winch needed servicing... a bit stiff
The only thing that doesn't work well is the water maker....even though I have a fresh water flush system, and JP made sure the water tank was full.....but the membranes are old, new in 2013, so not so surprising
AND , of course, as we would all expect, Elyse was clean and dry inside, no odour....even the bed was fine!....amazing...
So, I'm very impressed, and so happy to be able to be back on my beautiful boat.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: Display VDS 215 MDS - nav table A54

Arno Luijten
 

Stefan,

One other thing. I did notice you have a slightly different version of the VDS monitor as mine has a DVI input and NO TV inputs. I'm not sure if that makes a difference for the LCD replacement tough. Make sure you check the the model number of the LCD panel before proceeding

Regards,

Arno


Re: Display VDS 215 MDS - nav table A54

Arno Luijten
 

Hi Stefan,

This is the link to the panel: https://store.lcdparts.net/M170EG01-VD_p_4142.html. There are several variations of this panel but the exact type on our boat was "M170EG01-VD", the same as in the link (see picture).

Make sure you do NOT buy the LED back-light option as  getting this to work with the original controls from VDS on the front is a pain.
Taking the monitor apart is not hard but you do need to be careful with removing the back cover as the VGA/DVI/POWER connectors are attached to it. It helps a lot to remove the fasteners of the connectors once you have slightly opened up the back cover.
After the connectors are free from the back cover you can remove it completely. Make a picture of the backside before proceeding
Next you can remove VDS electronics (all hooked up with connectors) and get to the actual LCD panel.

The touchscreen panel can be found here: https://store.lcdparts.net/search.asp?keyword=MS170CAPR43&search=search
Before mounting the touchscreen you need to remove the glass plate from the front fascia by peeling out/off the silicone caulking that holds it in place.
When mounting the touch screen panel make sure the connector is on the right side of the monitor (seen from the front).
The touch-panel has some double sided sticky tape to glue it to the LCD panel. Make VERY sure you do not get dust in-between! Also make VERY sure you mount the panel symmetrically and straight over the actual screen area of the LCD panel.
Buy some thin insulation strip for window/door-frames to put between the inside of the VDS front and the touch-screen to prevent dirt/moisture entering.
The ribbon cable folds around the LCD panel and use some double sided sticky tape to mount the touchscreen controller on the backside of the LCD panel. The USB cable can be routed outside the casing.

Good Luck!

Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121


Lewmar Ocean 58 Winch

Mark & Debbie Mueller
 

We had a line jam while lifting 120 pounds of dinghy out of the water resulting in a stalled primary winch overloading ending with an inoperable winch.  Lewmar indicates the winch control box will electronically cut power to protect the winch and as failsafe there is small fuse in the control box that will blow.  In our case the Ocean 58 winch circa 2007 with the EVC control box does not have the fuse as indicated in the winch control manual however the winch control electronics did protect the winch by blowing the board requiring a new winch control box.

 

For reference, the new ELS winch control box is a Lewmar part number 48000222 and it does have a 3 amp internal fuse.  This box is not physically identical but is a reasonably easy substitute and the most expensive “fuse or circuit breaker” I have ever purchased.

 

Attached is the Lewmar information for the new ELS control box, wiring information, and EVC Operation & Service Manual.


--
Mark & Debbie Mueller
Brass Ring  A54


Re: mounting 12" chart plotter

 

Rink,

I really like that. We sailed 40,000 miles with the plotter in the middle. Ours was exactly in the middle, but the same concept. To get it in the middle we used a RAM Mount.
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CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Sat, May 22, 2021 at 9:19 AM Rink De Haan <rinkdehaan@...> wrote:
Following Bill’s line of thinking we have the 12” Raymarine chart plotter at the center. Well protected when sailing window open and a fair view for the co- pilot as well. 

Best
Rink
Amel SM2k #330


Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone

Op 22 mei 2021 om 15:52 heeft CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> het volgende geschreven:


Consider mounting the pod and/or chartplotter near the center of the windshield. Most of the time you will be viewing the chart plotter you will be seated in places other than the helm seat. Additionally, if it is in the center, everyone in the cockpit can see it.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Sat, May 22, 2021 at 3:06 AM Eloi Bamberg <eloi.bamberg@...> wrote:
Hi,
How did you mount and connect your chart plotter in the cockpit. I wanted to mount mine (Zeus 3s 12") in a Pod to secure it from theft, but i found it much to high (no more visibility over it), so i mounted it with the original mounting bracket behind the autopilot command. Does anybody have an idea how to protect it from theft other than removing it after navigation? Having 4 cables attached to it, i want to resolder those into one plug (to pass through the hull) if i have to remove it after each navigation but i am not sure whether it is possible to assemble power, nmea and ethernet into one plug without interferences. 

regards,

Eloi,
SM2K 426 RedLion


Re: After 14 months in the water

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Welcome back Alan.

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 22 May 2021 at 22:44 Alan Leslie <s.v.elyse@...> wrote:

Hello fellow Amelians, stranded by you know what,

Last week I flew to New Zealand from Australia to be reunited with my beautiful boat Elyse.

I thought some may be interested to know that after 14 months in the water, mostly everything is OK.

Mille merci a JP (Eleuthera SM007), who has from time to time kept an experienced eye on Elyse in Opua Marina.
I had her hauled out for a wash, pics attached, and I have to say this is an excellent advert for PROPSPEED...look at that prop...no movement for 14 months !!
I changed the oil and filters on the Yanmar and the Onan...both started easily, no problem....water flow fine 
The mainsail furls out and in easily as does the genoa, the main sheet winch needed servicing... a bit stiff
The only thing that doesn't work well is the water maker....even though I have a fresh water flush system, and JP made sure the water tank was full.....but the membranes are old, new in 2013, so not so surprising
AND , of course, as we would all expect, Elyse was clean and dry inside, no odour....even the bed was fine!....amazing...
So, I'm very impressed, and so happy to be able to be back on my beautiful boat.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


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This ZOOM Meeting will be presented by me, Bill Rouse. This meeting will be for Group Members interested in buying an Amel and Amel Owners wanting more information about their Amels. I will have a special gift for all of those attending the meeting:

I will review all of the things that I offer Amel Buyers and Amel Owners including: 

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Re: Simpson Davits Maintenance

Sv Garulfo
 

Hi,

I changed my lines for 4mm dyneema, no cover. 

I later removed the weights. I don’t think their are needed anymore.
I think the weights are only there so the stainless steel wires reel in nicely without the weight of the dinghy. 
I keep the lines out when the dinghy is not on the davits, tied to the small cleats on the davits. It’s out of the sun most of the time, and one less round trip of the motors every day. 
One less thing to bang on the gelcoat, the outboard, my skull and other things. 

I didn’t need to change anything on the motor/gearbox. Make the line extra long, it doesn’t hurt. 

Hope that helps

Thomas
GARULFO 
A54-122
Huahine, French Polynesia 


On 21 May 2021, at 22:33, Stefan Schaufert <mail@...> wrote:

Dear Scott,

I also intend to change the wires to dyneema.
After checking the gearbox I can not see why it is not possible without this expensive Simpson „dyneema“ set.
What do you needed the 100 Euros for?
4mm Dyneema is not that expensive :-)
Did you use dyneema with a polyester cover or without protection?
Did you do any changings on the gearbox/ motor?

Best regards
Stefan
A54 #119 Lady Charlyette, currently Azores, Santa Maria


Re: mounting 12" chart plotter

Rink De Haan
 

Following Bill’s line of thinking we have the 12” Raymarine chart plotter at the center. Well protected when sailing window open and a fair view for the co- pilot as well. 

Best
Rink
Amel SM2k #330


Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone

Op 22 mei 2021 om 15:52 heeft CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> het volgende geschreven:


Consider mounting the pod and/or chartplotter near the center of the windshield. Most of the time you will be viewing the chart plotter you will be seated in places other than the helm seat. Additionally, if it is in the center, everyone in the cockpit can see it.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Sat, May 22, 2021 at 3:06 AM Eloi Bamberg <eloi.bamberg@...> wrote:
Hi,
How did you mount and connect your chart plotter in the cockpit. I wanted to mount mine (Zeus 3s 12") in a Pod to secure it from theft, but i found it much to high (no more visibility over it), so i mounted it with the original mounting bracket behind the autopilot command. Does anybody have an idea how to protect it from theft other than removing it after navigation? Having 4 cables attached to it, i want to resolder those into one plug (to pass through the hull) if i have to remove it after each navigation but i am not sure whether it is possible to assemble power, nmea and ethernet into one plug without interferences. 

regards,

Eloi,
SM2K 426 RedLion


Re: mounting 12" chart plotter

 

Consider mounting the pod and/or chartplotter near the center of the windshield. Most of the time you will be viewing the chart plotter you will be seated in places other than the helm seat. Additionally, if it is in the center, everyone in the cockpit can see it.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Sat, May 22, 2021 at 3:06 AM Eloi Bamberg <eloi.bamberg@...> wrote:
Hi,
How did you mount and connect your chart plotter in the cockpit. I wanted to mount mine (Zeus 3s 12") in a Pod to secure it from theft, but i found it much to high (no more visibility over it), so i mounted it with the original mounting bracket behind the autopilot command. Does anybody have an idea how to protect it from theft other than removing it after navigation? Having 4 cables attached to it, i want to resolder those into one plug (to pass through the hull) if i have to remove it after each navigation but i am not sure whether it is possible to assemble power, nmea and ethernet into one plug without interferences. 

regards,

Eloi,
SM2K 426 RedLion


After 14 months in the water

Alan Leslie
 

Hello fellow Amelians, stranded by you know what,

Last week I flew to New Zealand from Australia to be reunited with my beautiful boat Elyse.

I thought some may be interested to know that after 14 months in the water, mostly everything is OK.

Mille merci a JP (Eleuthera SM007), who has from time to time kept an experienced eye on Elyse in Opua Marina.
I had her hauled out for a wash, pics attached, and I have to say this is an excellent advert for PROPSPEED...look at that prop...no movement for 14 months !!
I changed the oil and filters on the Yanmar and the Onan...both started easily, no problem....water flow fine 
The mainsail furls out and in easily as does the genoa, the main sheet winch needed servicing... a bit stiff
The only thing that doesn't work well is the water maker....even though I have a fresh water flush system, and JP made sure the water tank was full.....but the membranes are old, new in 2013, so not so surprising
AND , of course, as we would all expect, Elyse was clean and dry inside, no odour....even the bed was fine!....amazing...
So, I'm very impressed, and so happy to be able to be back on my beautiful boat.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: solar panel

Nick Fowle SM 404 Rascal <svrascal@...>
 

Understood Juan. Will let you know when I leave here.

Haven’t dived in that part of the island yet, done some lovely dives over in the marine park. 

Enjoy the weekend 

Nick
SV Rascal
SM404
🇬🇩 

Sent from ProtonMail for iOS


On Sat, May 22, 2021 at 12:30 AM, Juan de Zulueta <jdezulue@...> wrote:
Hello Nick,

We will be in the marina from Friday evening since we will haul out in Tyrell bay marina on the 31st.
We indeed were diving yesterday and I was really great.
Hope we can meet before we go back Europe for hurricane season.

Juan de Zulueta
+33680895892
sent from my Ipad.

Le 21 mai 2021 à 17:29, Nick Fowle SM 404 Rascal via groups.io <svrascal@...> a écrit :


Juan, 

Yes, I’m heading back up there I hope on Saturday (week tomorrow)  and will be there for a few weeks at least. 

Let me know your plans and hopefully we can meet up. 

How was the dive yesterday ? Was it you that went past me in the Dingy as I was getting ready to head off ? 

Nick
SV Rascal
SM404
🇬🇩 
Sent from ProtonMail for iOS


On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 1:59 PM, Juan de Zulueta <jdezulue@...> wrote:
Nick,

I am in Tyrell bay in Carriacou.
I am very interested by your installation are you coming back soon to Tyrell bay?
Best regards

Juan
Ophélie X sm32
Tyrell bay Carriacou 

Envoyé de mon iPhone

Le 21 mai 2021 à 13:41, Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...> a écrit :



Nick,

I would love to hear more about your Bimini panels. Model, how you mounted them, how you ran the wires, etc. 

Now that we're going to try to cook more on induction, I surmise I may need to add more solar.

Also I can't remember who was discussing the 3kw vs 5kw, but I think your experience is evidence that with the current delivery capacity of lithium, it makes all the sense in the world to get the 5kw. With our 5kw Quattro, it has never overheated even running the dishwasher, washing machine and occasional kitchen appliance concurrently. 

If you have a scuba compressor, it's a no brainer, imo. Even with a intake hose extension, I still don't like running the genset at the same time as the compressor to avoid the off chance that I get exhaust fumes in my scuba tank. Enough stuff to worry about diving in the middle of nowhere, far from a decompression chamber. We have filled 3 tanks sequentially on inverter/battery with no overheating issues.

There's the 8kw Quattro, but the idle power consumption of that monster is excessive.

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com






Re: Simpson Davits Maintenance

Stefan Schaufert
 

Dear Scott,

I also intend to change the wires to dyneema.
After checking the gearbox I can not see why it is not possible without this expensive Simpson „dyneema“ set.
What do you needed the 100 Euros for?
4mm Dyneema is not that expensive :-)
Did you use dyneema with a polyester cover or without protection?
Did you do any changings on the gearbox/ motor?

Best regards
Stefan
A54 #119 Lady Charlyette, currently Azores, Santa Maria

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