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Re: [Amel] Suggestion on Super Maramu

Dr. Seidel <mseidel@...>
 

Using my bow thruster, I can put Sundance sm349 into many small places. With using the rudder alone she is slow to respond at low speed. If you want maneuverability like a race car, you have to have a hull like the Beneteau 41.5 first---a huge freely hung elliptical rudder. I had one and could drive it backwards like a car. The price you pay is a very active yacht on the open ocean, hell on a auto pilot, and extraordinarily vulnerable to getting sheared off or damaged.

It is hard to have every thing in one boat. The Sm 349 is comfortable, safe, sails well, and my friends are in awe of it. Only thing I would like is a baby forestay, a wider slot for the main, and one foot decrease in mast height. There is no such thing as perfect, but this is great. Murray Seidel sm349. 910-470-1225----- Original Message -----
From: Nilo
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 9:12 AM
Subject: [Amel] Suggestion on Super Maramu


Dear Amel's Owners, I'm looking to buy a blue water cruiser to be used by myself and my wife for short time cruises in the Med while awaiting the opportunity to dedicate more time to sail. We are thinking to a second hand Najad or HR, size 43-46 but because a lot of people told us the Super Maramu can fit our needs, I would be most grateful to any experienced Super Maramu sailor for sharing experiences/comments on managing this boat in a so reduced crew. While we can easily recognize the quality of this design we are obviously mainly worried by manouvering in narrow harbours, so common in the Med. Many thanks in advance for any suggestion useful to drive our choice. Yours sincerely, Nilo


Re: [Amel] Autoprop on SM 302

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Thanks, Joel. I had assumed that there was a good reason for the Amel red cap. Now I know! Cheers, Ian

To: amelyachtowners@...
From: jfpottercys@...
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:54:24 -0400
Subject: RE: [Amel] Autoprop on SM 302

Hi Ian, I was told by Mr. Carteau a long time ago that the entire drive
train, prop included, is protected by the anode system in place with the
zincs on the rudder. Mr. Carteau said that the prop would be "over-zinced"
if one were to replace the red plastic with a zinc in its place. Subsequent
discussions with naval architects and marine engineers that I hold in esteem
back up Mr. Carteau's claim, as if I should have questioned the fact.
In all seriousness, the other opinion guys also said that it "probably"
would not hurt the prop because the zinc is not very big. Probably is not my
favorite adverb and the red plastic thingy is cheaper and lasts longer too.
Last thought, of all the SM53' I resell with the AUTOPROP, when we haul them
out of the water for survey, half have the red hat, half have a zinc.

All the best,
Joel F. Potter

Joel F. Potter - Cruising Yacht Specialist, LLC
Amel's Sole Associate for the Americas
Mailing Address: 401 East Las Olas Boulevard #130-126
Fort Lauderdale, Florida 33301
Phone: (954) 462-5869
Email: jfpottercys@...







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Re: [Amel] Autoprop on SM 302

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Thanks, Eric. That makes sense. Cheers, Ian

To: amelyachtowners@...
From: kimberlite@...
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 20:00:32 -0400
Subject: RE: [Amel] Autoprop on SM 302

Ian,

I purchased an anode for the prop to replace the plastic cap.

I found that as the zinc eroded and became loose and finally one of the
areas being held by the mounting screw broke off. The zinc was flopping
around. I went back to the Plastic cap.

I had the same problem with a maxprop.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite



Fair Winds

Eric





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From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Ian & Judy Jenkins
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 1:25 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel] Autoprop on SM 302






Hi Y'all, I have just had my Autoprop bearings changed after about 2,500
hours and 7 years.I did it as a precaution. When stripped down,the bearings
were in good condition. The prop was returned with a zinc anode at the aft
end, in place of the red plastic piece fitted by Amel. Question: Why do Amel
fit the red plastic piece instead of the zinc anode? Cheers, Ian and Judy,
Pen Azen, SM 302, Hamble ( but not for long...)


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Re: [Amel] Autoprop on SM 302

kimberlite <kimberlite@...>
 

Ian,

I purchased an anode for the prop to replace the plastic cap.

I found that as the zinc eroded and became loose and finally one of the
areas being held by the mounting screw broke off. The zinc was flopping
around. I went back to the Plastic cap.

I had the same problem with a maxprop.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite



Fair Winds

Eric





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From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Ian & Judy Jenkins
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 1:25 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel] Autoprop on SM 302






Hi Y'all, I have just had my Autoprop bearings changed after about 2,500
hours and 7 years.I did it as a precaution. When stripped down,the bearings
were in good condition. The prop was returned with a zinc anode at the aft
end, in place of the red plastic piece fitted by Amel. Question: Why do Amel
fit the red plastic piece instead of the zinc anode? Cheers, Ian and Judy,
Pen Azen, SM 302, Hamble ( but not for long...)


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Re: [Amel] Leaving the watermaker for 5 months

Richard Piller <richard03801@...>
 

Eric, I do the same once we run flush the system we leave the fresh water flush water in the water maker under pressure. ( we close the valve with the high pressure pump off and the 'boats' fresh water pump running) The freezing point of water is lower when the water is under pressure..and it gets cold here in Annapolis... the heat from the battery charger and the water heater generally keep things warm in the engine room so long as keep the engine cover down...
Richard and Joan on Challenge in Annapolis. SM 209

________________________________
From: kimberlite <kimberlite@...>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Sun, October 25, 2009 12:57:37 AM
Subject: RE: [Amel] Leaving the watermaker for 5 months


Richard,

I replace the pre filters after I do the final fresh water rinse. Then one
quick flush to fill the filters.

Fair Winds

Eric

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From: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Richard Piller
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 12:10 AM
To: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [Amel] Leaving the watermaker for 5 months

Eric, generally speaking if I were to leave Challenge I'd make sure I had
real good fresh water flush. But before I flush I pull out the pre-filter
and clean the filter case put in a charcoal filter and go for it.
Hope things are well in the Carib.
Richard and Joan on Challenge wintering in Annapolis.. SM 209

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From: kimberlite <kimberlite@ optonlin <mailto:kimberlite% 40optonline. net>
e.net>
To: amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtow ners%40yahoogrou ps.com>
yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sat, October 24, 2009 9:51:53 PM
Subject: RE: [Amel] Leaving the watermaker for 5 months

I lost my membranes and end caps with pickling solution. I now use only
fresh water flush. The longest I leave the boat unattended in st Martin is 2
months. I believe Ian Jenkins has laid up his boat the same way in Uruguay
for the winter season.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

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From: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com
[mailto:amelyachtow ners@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of jamietelferv32
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 5:50 PM
To: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [Amel] Leaving the watermaker for 5 months

I'm about to leave our SM on the hard for 5 months in a hot climate. There
are various posts on this site suggesting I should not use a
storage/pickling compound on the Dessalatorwatermake r as it is likely to
damage the seals and end caps but instead I should just flush the system
well with fresh water before leaving it. Has anyone experienced any problems
leaving the membranes like this?

Thanks for any thoughts.

Jamie Telfer
Bamboozle SM #388
Panama


Re: [Amel] Autoprop on SM 302

amelforme
 

Hi Ian, I was told by Mr. Carteau a long time ago that the entire drive
train, prop included, is protected by the anode system in place with the
zincs on the rudder. Mr. Carteau said that the prop would be "over-zinced"
if one were to replace the red plastic with a zinc in its place. Subsequent
discussions with naval architects and marine engineers that I hold in esteem
back up Mr. Carteau's claim, as if I should have questioned the fact.
In all seriousness, the other opinion guys also said that it "probably"
would not hurt the prop because the zinc is not very big. Probably is not my
favorite adverb and the red plastic thingy is cheaper and lasts longer too.
Last thought, of all the SM53' I resell with the AUTOPROP, when we haul them
out of the water for survey, half have the red hat, half have a zinc.

All the best,
Joel F. Potter

Joel F. Potter - Cruising Yacht Specialist, LLC
Amel's Sole Associate for the Americas
Mailing Address: 401 East Las Olas Boulevard #130-126
Fort Lauderdale, Florida 33301
Phone: (954) 462-5869
Email: jfpottercys@...


Autoprop on SM 302

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Hi Y'all, I have just had my Autoprop bearings changed after about 2,500 hours and 7 years.I did it as a precaution. When stripped down,the bearings were in good condition. The prop was returned with a zinc anode at the aft end, in place of the red plastic piece fitted by Amel. Question: Why do Amel fit the red plastic piece instead of the zinc anode? Cheers, Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Hamble ( but not for long...)


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Re: Help for checking a Mango in Fort Lauderdale

karkauai
 

Hi, Christoophe,
I looked at the Mango "Hu Song" a year ago. It was so dirty that you wouldn't want to go into the boat. It was so full of old gear and trash that you couldn't get to the forward cabin. Unless this one has been cleaned up, you couldn't even get a surveyor to evaluate it. I believe it was structurally sound if you wanted to do a major refit and cleanup.
Kent
SM 243 "Kristy"

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "Christophe" <c.lascombes@...> wrote:

Hi all of you,

I'm a new member of this forum, I'm a french sailor living in Germany and I was the owner of the Kirk n° 1 in the 90s bevor I was forced to sell him because of a bad divorce. Please excuse my bad english. I'll try to do my best to bo understood...

I need a little bit help from one of you (if it is possible, of course!). I'm looking for a Mango and I've found one (on Internet) in America, precisely in Fort Lauderdale. On the Internet site of the merchand, the boat looks very nice. Before I ask the US embassy to have a visa and take a plane to come to Florida und perhaps be then desapointed because the boat ist not like what the merchand says to me, it would be nice if someone who lives in Florida (perhaps in Fort Lauderdale?) and have some knowledges about sailboats would go to the merchand and have for me a look at this boat.
I'm also interested in all informations about the actually situation (price level ?)of the sailboats market in USA, because I don't know the merchant and I cannot know if he really says me the thruth about the state of the boat and if the price he wants to sell the boat is correct?

You can write me in german or french, in english also but you habe to write with simple phrases, because my english is not very good.
I can also call you back on the phone

Thank you very much

Christophe LASCOMBES
Am Schmidtgrund 66
D-50765 COLOGNE

Phone: +49 172 25 25 864

e-mail : c.lascombes@...


Re: [Amel] Help for checking a Mango in Fort Lauderdale

Christophe Lascombes <c.lascombes@...>
 

Hi Malcolm,

thank you for this great idea.

I'll contact him.

Christophe


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Am Schmidtgrund 66
D-50765 KÖLN

Tel.: +49 221 70 99 52 62
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----- Original Message -----
From: Malcolm Phillips
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 3:36 PM
Subject: RE: [Amel] Help for checking a Mango in Fort Lauderdale


Hi Christophe,

Why don't you contact the AMEL agent in USA ;- Joel Potter ?

Malcolm Bon Jovi S/M # 464

________________________________

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Christophe
Sent: 26 October 2009 14:05
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel] Help for checking a Mango in Fort Lauderdale

Hi all of you,

I'm a new member of this forum, I'm a french sailor living in Germany and I was the owner of the Kirk n° 1 in the 90s bevor I was forced to sell him because of a bad divorce. Please excuse my bad english. I'll try to do my best to bo understood...

I need a little bit help from one of you (if it is possible, of course!). I'm looking for a Mango and I've found one (on Internet) in America, precisely in Fort Lauderdale. On the Internet site of the merchand, the boat looks very nice. Before I ask the US embassy to have a visa and take a plane to come to Florida und perhaps be then desapointed because the boat ist not like what the merchand says to me, it would be nice if someone who lives in Florida (perhaps in Fort Lauderdale?) and have some knowledges about sailboats would go to the merchand and have for me a look at this boat.
I'm also interested in all informations about the actually situation (price level ?)of the sailboats market in USA, because I don't know the merchant and I cannot know if he really says me the thruth about the state of the boat and if the price he wants to sell the boat is correct?

You can write me in german or french, in english also but you habe to write with simple phrases, because my english is not very good.
I can also call you back on the phone

Thank you very much

Christophe LASCOMBES
Am Schmidtgrund 66
D-50765 COLOGNE

Phone: +49 172 25 25 864

e-mail : c.lascombes@... <mailto:c.lascombes%40t-online.de>

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Re: [Amel] Help for checking a Mango in Fort Lauderdale

Malcolm Phillips <MPhillips@...>
 

Hi Christophe,



Why don't you contact the AMEL agent in USA ;- Joel Potter ?



Malcolm Bon Jovi S/M # 464



________________________________

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Christophe
Sent: 26 October 2009 14:05
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel] Help for checking a Mango in Fort Lauderdale





Hi all of you,

I'm a new member of this forum, I'm a french sailor living in Germany and I was the owner of the Kirk n° 1 in the 90s bevor I was forced to sell him because of a bad divorce. Please excuse my bad english. I'll try to do my best to bo understood...

I need a little bit help from one of you (if it is possible, of course!). I'm looking for a Mango and I've found one (on Internet) in America, precisely in Fort Lauderdale. On the Internet site of the merchand, the boat looks very nice. Before I ask the US embassy to have a visa and take a plane to come to Florida und perhaps be then desapointed because the boat ist not like what the merchand says to me, it would be nice if someone who lives in Florida (perhaps in Fort Lauderdale?) and have some knowledges about sailboats would go to the merchand and have for me a look at this boat.
I'm also interested in all informations about the actually situation (price level ?)of the sailboats market in USA, because I don't know the merchant and I cannot know if he really says me the thruth about the state of the boat and if the price he wants to sell the boat is correct?

You can write me in german or french, in english also but you habe to write with simple phrases, because my english is not very good.
I can also call you back on the phone

Thank you very much

Christophe LASCOMBES
Am Schmidtgrund 66
D-50765 COLOGNE

Phone: +49 172 25 25 864

e-mail : c.lascombes@... <mailto:c.lascombes%40t-online.de>


Help for checking a Mango in Fort Lauderdale

Christophe <c.lascombes@...>
 

Hi all of you,

I'm a new member of this forum, I'm a french sailor living in Germany and I was the owner of the Kirk n° 1 in the 90s bevor I was forced to sell him because of a bad divorce. Please excuse my bad english. I'll try to do my best to bo understood...

I need a little bit help from one of you (if it is possible, of course!). I'm looking for a Mango and I've found one (on Internet) in America, precisely in Fort Lauderdale. On the Internet site of the merchand, the boat looks very nice. Before I ask the US embassy to have a visa and take a plane to come to Florida und perhaps be then desapointed because the boat ist not like what the merchand says to me, it would be nice if someone who lives in Florida (perhaps in Fort Lauderdale?) and have some knowledges about sailboats would go to the merchand and have for me a look at this boat.
I'm also interested in all informations about the actually situation (price level ?)of the sailboats market in USA, because I don't know the merchant and I cannot know if he really says me the thruth about the state of the boat and if the price he wants to sell the boat is correct?

You can write me in german or french, in english also but you habe to write with simple phrases, because my english is not very good.
I can also call you back on the phone

Thank you very much

Christophe LASCOMBES
Am Schmidtgrund 66
D-50765 COLOGNE

Phone: +49 172 25 25 864

e-mail : c.lascombes@...


Re: [Amel] +Re:Safe Removal

kimberlite <kimberlite@...>
 

The little hole under my keyboard I believe is for an dc power supply to
plug the safe in if the batteries are dead.

Fair Winds

Eric





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From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Rapp
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 12:05 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel] +Re:Safe Removal





I have a German safe manufactured by Hartmann Tresore Model HS 605-3. My
electronic keyboard also failed recently. I have written to the manufacturer
inquiring about obtaining a new keyboard, or, failing that, there appears to
be a little keyhole under the keyboard, but I don't have the key. I have not
heard anything back from the manufacturer. Does anyone know anything about
this?
Thanks in advance
Jeffrey Rapp
s/v Antares
SM2k378


+Re:Safe Removal

Jeffrey Rapp <rapp.jeffrey@...>
 

I have a German safe manufactured by Hartmann Tresore Model HS 605-3. My electronic keyboard also failed recently. I have written to the manufacturer inquiring about obtaining a new keyboard, or, failing that, there appears to be a little keyhole under the keyboard, but I don't have the key. I have not heard anything back from the manufacturer. Does anyone know anything about this?
Thanks in advance
Jeffrey Rapp
s/v Antares
SM2k378


Re: Leaving the watermaker for 5 months

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Jamie:

The best solution is to rig up a timer to flush the membranes with fresh water every few days. Most modern watermakers have this capability. I did this using a fish feeder timer that people use to feed their fish in their aquariums when they leave home. Basically it is a battery operated programable timer that can be wired to a relay. The relay actually carries the current load and is wired into the fresh water pressurization pump circuit. When I leave the boat I set the timer and place the watermaker flush valve on the watermaker low pressure pump in the flush position. In this position fresh water is supplied from the fresh water pump to flush the membranes. I have of course filled the fresh water tank to the brim. I program my pump to come on every third day and run for two minutes. This consumes about 600 liters of water in 6 months.

If you can't do the timer thing I would flush with fresh water and just leave it. As another alternative you might arrange with a caretaker to come aboard once a weeks and flush the system. Just leave the flush valve in the flush position and pop the pressurized fresh water pump breaker. To flush all the caretaker would have to do is push the pressurized fresh water pump breaker, let it run for a few minutes, then pop it again. When you return to the boat you can use pickling solution for a few hours in the system to kill any growth that may have occured, then flush the system copiously with fresh water.

I would NOT recommend pickling the system as this distributes the pickling solution through both the low and high pressure pumps, all the control board plumbing as well as the membranes and their tubes and end caps. Membranes are cheaper to replace than are the pumps (high and low pressure), end caps etc. The pickling solution is tremendously corrosive and will eat the stainless of the pumps, their seals, and just about anything else in the system, especially when left sitting in hot weather. If you decide to use it (which I recommend against) use an extremely dilute solution, on the order of 1/10th that spelled out by Dessalator. Perhaps about 1/4th of a teaspoon in a 3 gallon bucket.

Best of luck,

Gary Silver Amel SM2000 Hull # 335 Liahona, on the hard now for 4 months in Antigua

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "jamietelferv32" <jamietelferv32@...> wrote:

I'm about to leave our SM on the hard for 5 months in a hot climate. There are various posts on this site suggesting I should not use a storage/pickling compound on the Dessalator watermaker as it is likely to damage the seals and end caps but instead I should just flush the system well with fresh water before leaving it. Has anyone experienced any problems leaving the membranes like this?

Thanks for any thoughts.

Jamie Telfer
Bamboozle SM #388
Panama


Re: [Amel] Leaving the watermaker for 5 months

kimberlite <kimberlite@...>
 

Richard,

I replace the pre filters after I do the final fresh water rinse. Then one
quick flush to fill the filters.

Fair Winds

Eric





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From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Richard Piller
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 12:10 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel] Leaving the watermaker for 5 months





Eric, generally speaking if I were to leave Challenge I'd make sure I had
real good fresh water flush. But before I flush I pull out the pre-filter
and clean the filter case put in a charcoal filter and go for it.
Hope things are well in the Carib.
Richard and Joan on Challenge wintering in Annapolis.. SM 209

________________________________
From: kimberlite <kimberlite@optonlin <mailto:kimberlite%40optonline.net>
e.net>
To: amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, October 24, 2009 9:51:53 PM
Subject: RE: [Amel] Leaving the watermaker for 5 months

I lost my membranes and end caps with pickling solution. I now use only
fresh water flush. The longest I leave the boat unattended in st Martin is 2
months. I believe Ian Jenkins has laid up his boat the same way in Uruguay
for the winter season.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

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From: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of jamietelferv32
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 5:50 PM
To: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [Amel] Leaving the watermaker for 5 months

I'm about to leave our SM on the hard for 5 months in a hot climate. There
are various posts on this site suggesting I should not use a
storage/pickling compound on the Dessalatorwatermaker as it is likely to
damage the seals and end caps but instead I should just flush the system
well with fresh water before leaving it. Has anyone experienced any problems
leaving the membranes like this?

Thanks for any thoughts.

Jamie Telfer
Bamboozle SM #388
Panama


Re: [Amel] Leaving the watermaker for 5 months

Richard Piller <richard03801@...>
 

Eric, generally speaking if I were to leave Challenge I'd make sure I had real good fresh water flush. But before I flush I pull out the pre-filter and clean the filter case put in a charcoal filter and go for it.
Hope things are well in the Carib.
Richard and Joan on Challenge wintering in Annapolis.. SM 209



________________________________
From: kimberlite <kimberlite@...>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Sat, October 24, 2009 9:51:53 PM
Subject: RE: [Amel] Leaving the watermaker for 5 months


I lost my membranes and end caps with pickling solution. I now use only
fresh water flush. The longest I leave the boat unattended in st Martin is 2
months. I believe Ian Jenkins has laid up his boat the same way in Uruguay
for the winter season.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

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From: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of jamietelferv32
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 5:50 PM
To: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [Amel] Leaving the watermaker for 5 months

I'm about to leave our SM on the hard for 5 months in a hot climate. There
are various posts on this site suggesting I should not use a
storage/pickling compound on the Dessalatorwatermaker as it is likely to
damage the seals and end caps but instead I should just flush the system
well with fresh water before leaving it. Has anyone experienced any problems
leaving the membranes like this?

Thanks for any thoughts.

Jamie Telfer
Bamboozle SM #388
Panama


Re: [Amel] Leaving the watermaker for 5 months

kimberlite <kimberlite@...>
 

I lost my membranes and end caps with pickling solution. I now use only
fresh water flush. The longest I leave the boat unattended in st Martin is 2
months. I believe Ian Jenkins has laid up his boat the same way in Uruguay
for the winter season.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of jamietelferv32
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 5:50 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel] Leaving the watermaker for 5 months





I'm about to leave our SM on the hard for 5 months in a hot climate. There
are various posts on this site suggesting I should not use a
storage/pickling compound on the Dessalator watermaker as it is likely to
damage the seals and end caps but instead I should just flush the system
well with fresh water before leaving it. Has anyone experienced any problems
leaving the membranes like this?

Thanks for any thoughts.

Jamie Telfer
Bamboozle SM #388
Panama


Re: [Amel] Leaving the watermaker for 5 months

Richard Piller <richard03801@...>
 

given that you are in a very hot place and that things tend to grow there I guess given the choice I'd pickle it and know that the bugs we not be in there when I get back. Or if you are really concerned when you come back to the boat change out the membrain filters.. (if they are old and slowing down not a bad idea.)
Just remember when you startup the watermaker again make sure you have lots of good charcoal filtered water to flush it out.
Best of all things.
Richard and Joan SM 209



________________________________
From: jamietelferv32 <jamietelferv32@...>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Sat, October 24, 2009 5:50:02 PM
Subject: [Amel] Leaving the watermaker for 5 months


I'm about to leave our SM on the hard for 5 months in a hot climate. There are various posts on this site suggesting I should not use a storage/pickling compound on the Dessalator watermaker as it is likely to damage the seals and end caps but instead I should just flush the system well with fresh water before leaving it. Has anyone experienced any problems leaving the membranes like this?

Thanks for any thoughts.

Jamie Telfer
Bamboozle SM #388
Panama


Leaving the watermaker for 5 months

jamietelferv32 <jamietelferv32@...>
 

I'm about to leave our SM on the hard for 5 months in a hot climate. There are various posts on this site suggesting I should not use a storage/pickling compound on the Dessalator watermaker as it is likely to damage the seals and end caps but instead I should just flush the system well with fresh water before leaving it. Has anyone experienced any problems leaving the membranes like this?

Thanks for any thoughts.

Jamie Telfer
Bamboozle SM #388
Panama


Re: [Amel] Outhaul Cars Main and Mizzen

Richard Piller <richard03801@...>
 

HI all you ball bearing dropers.  the reason you to a grease like for example silicon is hold the balls so they don't fall out.  You can also look around a local rigging shop of  piece of track that might fit the bill.  Don't worry if it is not quite right it just has to hold the balls.Richard and Joan Sm 209

--- On Thu, 10/22/09, Ric <ric@...> wrote:

From: Ric <ric@...>
Subject: Re: [Amel] Outhaul Cars Main and Mizzen
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 7:24 PM













 





Highly reccomend McLube. Its dry, clean, & works incredibly well.

Great used on sails to seal & makes them easier to furl in the mast.



Ric Gottschalk

Bali Hai SN24



On Oct 22, 2009, at 6:26 PM, Richard Piller <richard03801@ yahoo.com>

wrote:



an old trick to keep ball bearing balls in place it use grease to
hold the balls. Try it or use some other stuff you can wash off you
you don't make a mess after the fact.Richard and Joan on SM 209
--- On Wed, 10/21/09, svbebe <yahoogroups@ svbebe.com> wrote:
From: svbebe <yahoogroups@ svbebe.com>
Subject: [Amel] Outhaul Cars Main and Mizzen
To: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 8:37 PM
All,
Our outhaul car on the mizzen recently failed. The shackle cracked
and broke that secures the outhaul line and sail to the car. When I
inspected the shackle on the main outhaul, I found it cracked. You
may want to check yours.
It appears that the Mizzen outhaul car has to be removed to replace
the shackle because the top of the car must be removed to allow the
shackle-retaining pin to be removed. The car halves are secured with
4 bolts and nuts. I assume that as soon as I separate the halves
that I will have bearings falling everywhere. I now wish that I had
a small pieces of track to enable removal of the various cars. Also,
I noticed on Anatal's website that the 4100/SH (the NEW replacement
for mine) allows the removal of the shackle without separating the
car halves. If you have experienced this failure, any suggestions
would be appreciated.
I uploaded a photo in the "Rigging" folder of "Photos" on this
website. You may be able to link directly to it using this link: http://groups
. yahoo.com/ group/amelyachto wners/photos/ album/1650688738 /pic/1901257222
/ view?picmode= &mode=tn& order=ordinal& start=1&count= 20&dir=asc
Best,
Bill
s/v Bebe SM2 #387
Currently Nongsa, Indonesia, a few miles from Singapore
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