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Re: Installing rub rail inserts

Craig Briggs
 

Hi Darren & Karen (how alliterative ;-) and any others interested in replacement rubber rub rail inserts. 
You're right - these are not Stainless rub rails. These are replacements for the original brown rubber inserts that go the full length of the FRP Rub Rails and which over the years take on a nasty chalky brown that cannot be restored effectively. 
Pat McEnery on Shenanigans found a Miami, FL manufacturer of extruded rubber products (like dinghy rub rails and dock bumpers) and sent them a section of his old insert from which they made an extrusion die and several of us ordered our replacements, sharing the cost of the die. 
The product was excellent and was an off-white instead of the original brown. So far it seems not to be prone to UV deterioration and looks great.
See my previous posts for the direct contact with the company - they do ship internationally, although I do not know the cost. Mine were $890US (no shipping charge as I picked them up at the factory) and I only needed 88 feet, being a SN not a SM. Your cost would be somewhat more, of course.
This is a small family business which I found very creditable after visiting the factory.  The contact person, Paula Murador (the owners daughter)  is most helpful and can certainly walk you through a purchase. I think she would like to get several orders together and then offer a group discount, but you need to contact her directly. Here's her contact info:

Paula Murador

Director, Account Manager
 

9401 NW 106th ST # 111 | Medley, FL 33178
Office: (305)888-6324

Fax:(305)888-6325
www.technorubberindustries.com  

Here's a picture of a sample section installed on my boat.

--
Cheers, Craig - SN68 Sangaris, Tropic Isle Harbor, FL


For those that missed the first procurement of Rub Rails

Ken Powers SV Aquarius <ken@...>
 

For those Amel Owners who would like to procure new Rub Rails within the next 6 months:

Add your name to the list.  If we can get about 15 boats, we will move forward with the purchase.

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Sailing Aquarius
SM2K#262
Currently in Thailand


Re: Installing rub rail inserts

Darren Moore
 

Hi Craig,

I am new to the SM and are wondering what these rub rail inserts are? and what costs are involved

I looked in the photo's section under rub rail and found some Stainless rub rails, but I don't think that is what you are talking about

--
Darren & Karen
SM171
Tradewinds III
Tasmania, Australia


Re: New Zealand

David Vogel
 

Greetings all,

Yes, the maritime border to NZ is closed. But it is possible to apply for and be granted an exception to arrive in NZ via sea. We have done so.

You can make the application the relevant authorities yourself, at no cost to lodge, but increased uncertainty as to the outcome. Or you can engage an agent who has processed applications into the system before = greater certainty. We used an agent. Cost was a one-off agent’s fee of USD650- to do so.

The time was 4 weeks to complete the paperwork in coordination with the Agent. Then, once the (32-page) application was submitted, it took three weeks to be granted the exemption. The exemption does not have an expiry date on it; but your application paperwork does have time-and-cost elements as a component of the committed work schedule/s, so the timing is inherent in the approval.

Apart from humanitarian / compassionate grounds, the only grounds for approval with be on the basis of delivering Economic Benefit to NZ. There are only two main reasons that will be considered in support of an application for exemption.

1. Delivering your boat to a business (e.g. for sale); or
2. Major refit, repairs, &/or refurbishment.

We used the term “significant programme of repairs & refurbishment” to support our application.

There is no exact defined figure for economic benefit, but (based on seeing who got approved, and who not) the baseline amount before your application will be considered is NZD50k.

Marina fees, yards fees, part & paid labour, and project management fees may be included. Costs incurred by crew (such as food, accommodation, lodging, land-travel, or consuming copious quantities of great Kiwi wine) are not.

To start with, we baulked at that amount. But, upon reflection, we realised that, by the time we get to NZ, we will have been sailing more-or-less constantly for almost 5 years. And so it will be high time to take some time-out, pause and find a base from where to attend to those many items of repairs and maintenance (“The List”) that cannot be so easily done in remote areas, or while there is an imperative to keep the boat in one piece and in a seaworthy condition (meaning, available to move to avoid adverse seasonal weather – i.e. the cyclone season in the South Pacific).

So, I totalled up all of those items of repairs & maintenance (including planned upgrades), and were able to easily exceed the NZ$50k threshold amount. It is also made easier to swallow, considering that we plan to be in NZ for 18 months, and additional items of repairs & maintenance will naturally arise within that timeframe.

When you consider the difficulty in getting *quality* work done in many other places, especially whilst on-the-move, the lure of NZ is undeniable. And if we are going to do the work in any case, then the cost is really not so much of an issue. Compare this to the rule-of-thumb, 5 to 10% of the value of the boat on R&M in any one year, spread over two years, with guaranteed quality, then it becomes a much easier decision.

All that said, we plan to travel from French Polynesia to Fiji, before heading southwards to NZ. Things are very changeable out here at the moment, with Fiji closing up a little more this past week, so another season in FP may become a necessity. The list of R&M won’t get any shorter …

Hope this information helps inform the debate.

And thanks to those providing recommendations for vendors and suppliers in NZ – very much appreciated.

David
Perigee, SM#396
On the dock attending to turbo issues
Papeete Marina, Tahiti


From: <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Robert Thomson <yachtmemo@gmail.com>
Reply-To: <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Date: Monday, 24 May 2021 at 11:27 am
To: <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] New Zealand

We are thinking of trying to get into New Zealand later this year on the basis Memo will need a refit. Can any one recommend New Zealand yards that would have experience of Amel yachts.


Re: House Bank vs. Engine Start

Mark Garver
 

Kent,

Thanks I will reach out to him, it’s not too far for a day sail.

Best,

Mark and Jennifer
S/V It’s Good
SM #105


On May 24, 2021, at 3:41 PM, karkauai via groups.io <karkauai@...> wrote:

Hi Mark,
I had a lot of work done at Deltaville Boatyard between 2010 and 2016. They always did a good job in a timely fashion...at a price.  The electrician who built the isolated bonding system for my new Yanmar  has mived on (not sure where).  I'd call Keith Ruse ((804) 776-9812) and tell him what you need.  I think they replaced the copper strap in my bilge sump in 2010, using the drawings and instructions on this site.

Keith tried to become an Amel certified yard, but even after I wrote Amel to recommend them, he never even got a reply.  If you talk to him, tell him I said Hi.
--
Kent & Iris
KRISTY
SM243


Re: Short poles length

Roy Zakheym
 

Thanks bill




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-------- Original message --------
From: CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>
Date: 5/27/21 16:01 (GMT+02:00)
To: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification" <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Short poles length

According to Tim Melbourne, SM2k owner: Length of aluminum tube (w/o ends): 73.50"

Best,

CW Bill Rouse 
Amel Owners Yacht School
+1 832-380-4970 | brouse@...
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com 
Yacht School Calendar: www.preparetocastoff.blogspot.com/p/calendar.html


   

On Thu, May 27, 2021, 6:34 AM Roy Zakheym via groups.io <royzak1=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi Amelians
I am in the process of manufacturing short and long poles for my Super maramu as I don't have any..
I have all measurements of the big poles but I am missing the short poles length(aluminum tube and overall)
Will appreciate the help
Best
Roy zakheym
Joanna2 SM 442


Re: Security Alarm system)Anxhor Alarm

Mark Erdos
 

Hi Kent and Iris,

 

If in an iffy anchorage, I use a simple motion sensor and alarm. These are often marketed as gate or driveway alarms. They are battery operated, inexpensive and effective. We have only felt the need to use it a few times (Caribbean Islands). I temporarily place the motion sensor near the companionway in the cockpit and the alarm is in the aft cabin. When not used it is stored without the batteries in it. This allows us to sleep soundly at night.

 

If I remember correctly, I purchased this from Harbor Freight in the USA for US$15.00

 

We also have an motion sensor light under the arch. This is not really for security but more so for when we arrive back at the boat (on anchor) after dark and forget to leave a light on. I guess it may work as a deterrent.

 

In re to products such as the GOST, I really do not see any value since in order to monitor the vessel when away, both the boat and the person need internet connectivity. Since we use our phone most of the time for internet, if the phone is with us, the boat has no internet. Internet connectivity is an ongoing challenge in remote areas.

 

For an anchor watch we use the watch function built into our Nobel Tech Time Zero software on the ship’s computer. This can be activated with one click. Also, very easy to adjust the swing circle. This works without the need to run the monitor (power hog). The computer draws minimal amps and the speakers are very loud. This is always on if we are on a mooring or the hook.

 

We  have also used a free anchor watch app called DragQueen. Very easy to use and set up. It requires the tablet to be plugged into a USB port all night and uses the GPS in the tablet rather than the ship’s GPS.

 

Hope this helps.

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of karkauai via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 10:06 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Security Alarm system)Anxhor Alarm

 

Hi everyone, I hope this finds everyone happy and safe...and sailing!

I want to install an alarm sysrem, and wondered if anyone has installed a GOST sysrem?  I found the system that Bill R used and recommends, but was looking at all options.

If anyone has a GOST system, I'd be interested in your experience.  Any other systems anyone uses?

Also, what anchor alarms are you using?  Our B&G Zeus doesn't allow us to mark the anchor position without going through a lot of mental gymnastics, Alarm zones only sound when you enter the zone.   Others we've tried as cell phone apps aren't much better.  Some security systems have the ability to track the vessel if it is stolen, and that got me wondering if it could also be used as anchor alarm.  My old "The Capn" nav program allowed me to draw an alarm zone based on length of rode, which could be set to alarm when you left the zone.  It was really easy, but haven't found anything like that since.

Thanks for any thoughts and/or help.

Be safe

Have Fun

Sail Fast
--
Kent & Iris

KRISTY

SM243


Re: Climma compact Air conditioner manual in English

Paul Osterberg
 

Stefan, my Climma is a bit older, but got a new relay, not the same but close enough so now all three are working again
Paul


Primary Rawater Manafold

Chris Doucette
 

Does anyone know what the thread size is on this for a late model SM2K (Circled Red) ?  




Chris
Amarok, SM385


Re: Security Alarm system)Anxhor Alarm

 

I agree. We used the same app.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse 
Amel Owners Yacht School
+1 832-380-4970 | brouse@...
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com 
Yacht School Calendar: www.preparetocastoff.blogspot.com/p/calendar.html


   

On Thu, May 27, 2021, 8:41 AM Joerg Esdorn via groups.io <jhe1313=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

I use an iPhone app called Anchor Alarm.  It shows the boat on Google or Satellite map and permits me to draw a zone within which the boat can move without the alarm sounding.  It works great.  I believe it costs a few bucks.  Check it out!   


Joerg Esdorn
A55 Kincsem # 53
Vigo, Spain


Re: Security Alarm system)Anxhor Alarm

Joerg Esdorn
 

I use an iPhone app called Anchor Alarm.  It shows the boat on Google or Satellite map and permits me to draw a zone within which the boat can move without the alarm sounding.  It works great.  I believe it costs a few bucks.  Check it out!   


Joerg Esdorn
A55 Kincsem # 53
Vigo, Spain


Re: Short poles length

 

According to Tim Melbourne, SM2k owner: Length of aluminum tube (w/o ends): 73.50"

Best,

CW Bill Rouse 
Amel Owners Yacht School
+1 832-380-4970 | brouse@...
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com 
Yacht School Calendar: www.preparetocastoff.blogspot.com/p/calendar.html


   

On Thu, May 27, 2021, 6:34 AM Roy Zakheym via groups.io <royzak1=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi Amelians
I am in the process of manufacturing short and long poles for my Super maramu as I don't have any..
I have all measurements of the big poles but I am missing the short poles length(aluminum tube and overall)
Will appreciate the help
Best
Roy zakheym
Joanna2 SM 442


Re: Installing rub rail inserts

Craig Briggs
 

All,
Here's an email from the manufacturer. Anyone interested can contact them directly.
Craig


"Hi Craig,

Great to hear from you! We can definitely manufacture more rub rail inserts – we still have the die (#30117)

 The cost does have to change a little bit due to inflation on raw materials this past year. Do you happen to have quantities on how many orders? Remember, it would be best to run all orders together so we do not have major loss on material.  

 I can provide you a new quote with this information. 😊

Thanks!

Paula Murador

Director, Account Manager
 

9401 NW 106th ST # 111 | Medley, FL 33178
Office: (305)888-6324

Fax:(305)888-6325
www.technorubberindustries.com    

--
SN68 Sangaris, Tropic Isle Harbor, FL


Re: Climma compact Air conditioner manual in English

Stefan Jeukendrup
 

Hi Paul,

I have uploaded 2 Climma manuals in English to https://amelyachtowners.groups.io/g/main/files/Airconditioning

Hope this is helpfull,

Stefan Jeukendrup
sv Malaka Queen
SM2k#348 @ Old Iasos Turkey


Re: Climma compact Air conditioner manual in English

Doug Smith
 

It might not be an ideal solution, but Google Translate has a camera feature, and will translate any language manual, into most any other language.  Taking screenshots of the translation allows you to keep working without having to search for English manuals, in a pinch.

 

Doug Smith

S/V Aventura, Amel 54-113

White Point VA USA

 

From: <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Paul Osterberg <osterberg.paul.l@...>
Reply-To: <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Date: Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 5:57 AM
To: <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Climma compact Air conditioner manual in English

 

Hello!
one of the relays in the control box for the forward air conditioner unit is burnt and need to be replaced. when looking in my manual it is all in french, is there anyone who have the manual available in English in electronic form? i searched the file section but found nothing on Climma at all?
Paul on SY Kerpa SM#259


Re: Installing rub rail inserts

Patrick McAneny
 

Dave, I am going down today to install the other side and before I start I will cut off about half of the lower lip. With that I expect to be able to install it in two or three hours , there is no reason that the lower lip needs to be as wide as the upper lip and it makes it so much easier to install. I too am very happy with the insert/gutter and the white looks very good against my freshly painted forest green rub rails. 
We have always had a huge problem with spiders living under and in the rub rails , so before I installed the inserts ,I placed a piece of plastic gutter guard material inside over the drain holes ,(typically installed in gutters to leave water pass thru ,but to keep leaves out sold at Lowes) ,this should prevent spiders from hiding inside the rails and yet leave water out. Just thought I would pass that along ,in case others have a spider problem like me.
Thanks,
Pat
SM Shenanigans


-----Original Message-----
From: David Kurtz via groups.io <Davidwkurtz@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Sent: Wed, May 26, 2021 10:23 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Installing rub rail inserts

Pat, I just installed my new inserts.  The soapy water spray is definitely the way to go, but I did not have all the trouble it sounds like you had.  Definitely a slow process, but I used a large flat blade screwdriver and it probably took six hours to get all of the rail installed.  Really quite happy with the results and I would not change a thing.  And thanks again for arranging the group purchase!

Dave
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Dave Kurtz
SM2 #380
S/V Celtic Cross
Detroit, Michigan


Short poles length

Roy Zakheym
 

Hi Amelians
I am in the process of manufacturing short and long poles for my Super maramu as I don't have any..
I have all measurements of the big poles but I am missing the short poles length(aluminum tube and overall)
Will appreciate the help
Best
Roy zakheym
Joanna2 SM 442


Climma compact Air conditioner manual in English

Paul Osterberg
 

Hello!
one of the relays in the control box for the forward air conditioner unit is burnt and need to be replaced. when looking in my manual it is all in french, is there anyone who have the manual available in English in electronic form? i searched the file section but found nothing on Climma at all?
Paul on SY Kerpa SM#259


Re: Installing rub rail inserts

David Kurtz
 

Pat, I just installed my new inserts.  The soapy water spray is definitely the way to go, but I did not have all the trouble it sounds like you had.  Definitely a slow process, but I used a large flat blade screwdriver and it probably took six hours to get all of the rail installed.  Really quite happy with the results and I would not change a thing.  And thanks again for arranging the group purchase!

Dave
--
Dave Kurtz
SM2 #380
S/V Celtic Cross

Detroit, Michigan


Re: Security Alarm system)Anxhor Alarm

Patrick McAneny
 

Eloi, I have often thought I would like to add a louder alarm,I appreciate the info.
Thanks Much,
Pat
SM Shenanigans


-----Original Message-----
From: Eloi Bamberg <eloi.bamberg@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Sent: Wed, May 26, 2021 5:12 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Security Alarm system)Anxhor Alarm

Hi Patrick,
Glad you managed to finish your repairs. 
On the Zeus 3s plotter you have an alarm output on the power cable, it is the blue wire, max 1 A for a buzzer or with a relay you can switch what you want. 
regards,
Eloi
SM2K 426 RedLion

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