From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io On Behalf Of Bill Kinney
Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2021 11:17 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] SM winch motor brushes

Mike,

The chances of the furling motor and the winch motor sharing brushes is vanishingly small.  not QUITE zero... but very close.  The electric winches were supplied by Lewmar (they are not an Amel specific part). On our boat, the winch drive motor and gearbox were made by Bonfiglioli, while the furling motors are Leroy Somers.  If your boat has the Bonfiglioli furling motors, the chances go up by a tiny bit... I do not know if Lewmar used exactly the same motors throughout the production run for these winches.

I haven’t had the opportunity to pull apart the motors for the winches, so can’t help with the details.  Like the furling motors, these motors and gearboxes are standard industrial parts.  If you can read the motor label ahead of time, you can pre-order the brushes.  If that’s not possible, once you have the old brushes in hand and can measure them, you can almost always get them from Grainger, or one of the companies who specialize in motor brushes.

We have found that all of the Lewmar dealers and distributors in the USA (including Lewmar USA) were pretty helpless as far as helping us with parts for these winches.  Nobody we talked to had the information about how the parts for the electric version was different from the the much more common manual version. We ended up getting our parts from Ocean Chandlery in the UK.  They immediately knew and understood exactly what we needed.

And in the “for what it is worth” department:  On Leroy Somers motors used in the main sail furling system:  Leroy Somers changed the design of the motor several years ago, but KEPT EXACTLY THE SAME PART NUMBER.  The new motor has the same electrical and power specifications, bolts in place and works fine, but is a slightly smaller diameter, and, most importantly, has a completely different design for the brushes.  If you order brushes based on the part number, it is a tossup on getting the right part!  Just a heads up that having the brushes in hand and ordering based on dimensions is sometimes the best thing to do.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Eleuthera, BS

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io On Behalf Of Paul Stascavage via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2021 10:09 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Yanmar 100 HP (4JH3-HTE) Exhaust Hose Replacement

Thank you Bill R. and Bill K.

The wealth of knowledge on this forum saves me so much time.

I truly appreciate you both taking the time to share.

All the best,

Paul Stascavage
SM #466 - s/v Rita Kathryn
Currently Exploring City Island, NY

www.RitaKathryn.com

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2021 5:05 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Seasickness cures and medication

On 10/06/2021, at 6:08 AM, JOHN HAYES <johnhayes862@...> wrote:



 Scopaderm a patch that sticks to the skin behind the ear and available at pharmacies in NZ is excellent for crew afflicted by sea sickness . It’s not cheap at about NZ $25 for 2 patches. You wear both. Does not make users drowsy.  I don’t use myself but always keep some on board for use when someone on board is afflicted 

John Hayes 

Nga Waka SN 61

Wellington NZ

On 10/06/2021, at 4:55 AM, eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:



I was asked by a crewmember to poll the group to find out what Amel owners used

and recommended for seasickness.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

On 10/06/2021, at 4:55 AM, eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:



I was asked by a crewmember to poll the group to find out what Amel owners used

and recommended for seasickness.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

On Jun 9, 2021, at 11:55 AM, eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:



I was asked by a crewmember to poll the group to find out what Amel owners used

and recommended for seasickness.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

On 09 June 2021 at 10:56 Bill Kinney <cruisingconsulting@...> wrote:

Danny, I hear you, except… the turbo is new.  The exhaust elbow is new, and clean.  The boost pressure is spot on Volvo’s spec (I measured it) the waste gate opening is in spec.  When going upwind, the engine will NOT climb up into the turbo boost zone if the RPM is limited to 2800.  Yet it generates full power and speed if I allow the max RPM to climb to 3350.  

What problems would you predict I’ll see by running at this prop setting?

Bill Kinney
SM160,  Harmonie
Great Guiana Cay, Exumas, Bahamas

On 8 Jun 2021, at 16:44, Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...> wrote:



I have now removed all three blades. Two blades are missing the track for the roller bearing to seat in. The third one has it and the blade is in perfect shape. All of these parts  were in the kit that I supplied to them. They must have seen these tracks and did not know where they went and decided it was extra parts without even an inquiry. The strange part is that one of the blades was done correctly, so I fail to see how they missed the other two, unless they were done by different “mechanics”. I’m hoping to finish dismantling and cleaning today, re-assemble tomorrow. The diver is scheduled to come back Thursday AM to assist in the re-installation of the prop.

 

The plus side is that we have avoided a haul out and the whole process should take less than 2 days. This is something that can be done without an assist from a diver and I believe the whole process can be accomplished in a long day, in calm weather at anchor.

 

Respectfully;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

Amel 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, June 8, 2021 5:31 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Play in Brunson H6 prop blade

 

Mohammed,

 

Great! And great advice!

Best,

CW Bill Rouse 
Amel Owners Yacht School
+1 832-380-4970 | brouse@...
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com 
Yacht School Calendar: www.preparetocastoff.blogspot.com/p/calendar.html


   

 

On Tue, Jun 8, 2021, 5:48 AM Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...> wrote:

I dove with assistance from a diver and had the prop removed in less than one hour. After removing the loose blade, found out that the tightening nut on the blade would rotate by hand and the left hand locking nut was not tightened against the blade nut and therefore allowed almost two full turns prior to locking. Water has gotten in between the hub and the blade and the bearing guide has almost rusted through.  I believe we have been sailing for two seasons with the prop in this condition and it was with pure luck that we found the condition before losing a blade and possibly doing a lot more damage in the process.

 

One more item to add to the annual check list. Dive and inspect all underwater items, as well as everything above deck. Time to rebuild again ourselves and hopefully do a better job than the “expert mechanics”. This issue keeps on being reinforced, do it yourself and at least you will either learn or make a mistake and know that you made a mistake. You will most likely not make the same mistake twice.

 

Thanks for all the responses.

 

Respectfully;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

Amel 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Slavko Despotovic via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, June 8, 2021 12:16 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Play in Brunson H6 prop blade

 

Just in case you have not see it. This is video from SVDelos I found this morning.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFEtGRuJiD0--

Slavko

SM 2000
#279 Bonne Anse in Portoroz