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Re: Mounting a life raft on the SM railing

eric freedman
 

I wanted to do that on Kimberlite years ago and the manufacturer said it was not suitable for rail mount.

They said that my raft a Switlik was not suitable for that configuration. I would check with the manufacturer to see if it works in that configuration. I now have a Winslow. I keep it in the port cockpit  locker next to my Jordan drogue. They offer 6 different case shapes for this raft.  It is a 6-man raft and must be repacked every 3 years. I especially like it as it has closeable pockets inside for my bail out bag gear.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io On Behalf Of Jarek Zemlo via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2021 6:01 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Mounting a life raft on the SM railing

 

Jose Hi,
attached some pictures of my raft. I did the change last year and welded in the rail port side. My raft is Viking ISO pack (6 persons fully equipped for long ocean passage).
Sailed so far 2.000 miles and no problems.

Jarek
SY NOA BLUE
SM 201


Re: Preventing Bow Thruster drop during service

eric freedman
 

Amel recommends putting a hose clamp on the tube of the bow thruster. It has worked for me for the last 19 years.
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

-----Original Message-----
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io On Behalf Of Ian Park
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2021 9:09 AM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Preventing Bow Thruster drop during service

Yes, I always do this, but thread the rope through the prop space so it can’t slip off. Makes removal single handed easier.

Ian

Ocean Hobo SN96. St Mary’s, Isles of Scilly


Re: Preventing Bow Thruster drop during service

Ian Park
 

Yes, I always do this, but thread the rope through the prop space so it can’t slip off. Makes removal single handed easier.

Ian

Ocean Hobo SN96. St Mary’s, Isles of Scilly


Re: Mounting a life raft on the SM railing

Jarek Zemlo
 

Jose Hi,
attached some pictures of my raft. I did the change last year and welded in the rail port side. My raft is Viking ISO pack (6 persons fully equipped for long ocean passage).
Sailed so far 2.000 miles and no problems.

Jarek
SY NOA BLUE
SM 201


Re: Seasickness cures and medication

CARINA HAMMARLUND
 

We use scopolamine patches which works well and we also tried the sea sickness googles used by the marine.
you look funny wearing them but it really helps when you need to go down for galley work etc
--
Carina
SV Ultimo
Amel 54 No 165


Re: Skilled electric-electronic people in Preveza-Greece

Alain Durante
 

Bonjour Olivier,

 

I just changed my Bamar electric furler so let me know if you need spare furlers?

 

Cordialement,

 

Alain Durante

 

Amel 54 Meige #21

 

 

De : main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> De la part de Beaute Olivier via groups.io
Envoyé : jeudi 10 juin 2021 09:32
À : main@amelyachtowners.groups.io; AmelYachtOwners <main+owner@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Objet : [AmelYachtOwners] Skilled electric-electronic people in Preveza-Greece

 

Good morning,

 

AMEL 54#171 GANESHA is looking for a skilled electric-electronic after a lightning strike.

The vessel is in Preveza/Greece.

 

You may contact me at olivierbeaute at gmail dot com.

 

Thanks.

 

Olivier.


Re: Mounting a life raft on the SM railing

Alain Blanchard
 

Jose

This is How IT is fitted on Koriolys 
Regards / Alain


SM 146/Koriolys 
Gruissan /France

Envoyé de mon iPhone

Le 10 juin 2021 à 03:44, Jose Venegas via groups.io <josegvenegas@...> a écrit :

I am replacing my life raft with one that can be kept on the railing for easy deployment.  My current one is a balize that I am not sure I will be able to deploy in time.

I would greatly appreciate any ideas/photos/drawings and experience of SM that have installed their life raft in the reailing.

I have been debating about finding a location for easy deployment, not adding to the port listing (exaggerated by the newly installed lithium batteries or tilting more the stern and certainly not reduce front visibility.

Thank you

Jose 
Ipanema SM 2K 278
Currently in Cartagena de Indias 


Skilled electric-electronic people in Preveza-Greece

Beaute Olivier
 

Good morning,

AMEL 54#171 GANESHA is looking for a skilled electric-electronic after a lightning strike.
The vessel is in Preveza/Greece.

You may contact me at olivierbeaute at gmail dot com.

Thanks.

Olivier.


Re: Seasickness cures and medication

Alan Leslie
 

We take Stugeron tablets for the first 2 days. It makes me a bit drowsy, but after two days all is fine...and if out for 6 months or so, never have to take it again.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: Mounting a life raft on the SM railing

VICTOR MOLERO
 

This is my solution, Jose.
I'm happy with it.
Victor
SM314 Alendoy


Re: Seasickness cures and medication

Marcel Tromp
 

Lie down on your belly , relax the muscles but have a bucket nearby! No meds!


On Thu, 10 Jun. 2021 at 16:29, Giorgio Ardrizzi
<giorgio.ardrizzi@...> wrote:
I have been using Biodramina Cafeina for years and I am very happy. It is the usual Dramamina type pill, but it contains caffeine which completely eliminates sleepiness.  The problem is finding it, because to my knowledge it is only sold in Spain. You can also buy it online.  On average it lasts 6/8 hours.

With regard to the Scopolamine patch, I advice once applied, to cover it with a paper patch. If inadvertently touches the patch and then the eyes, causes the complete opening of the pupil for many hours.
Being the Scopolamine a drug, for years in Italy, my nation, sale is prohibited.

Giorgio Ardrizzi
sy Saudade III
Sharki #1 - 1980
in Le Marin, Martinique


Re: Seasickness cures and medication

Giorgio Ardrizzi
 

I have been using Biodramina Cafeina for years and I am very happy. It is the usual Dramamina type pill, but it contains caffeine which completely eliminates sleepiness.  The problem is finding it, because to my knowledge it is only sold in Spain. You can also buy it online.  On average it lasts 6/8 hours.

With regard to the Scopolamine patch, I advice once applied, to cover it with a paper patch. If inadvertently touches the patch and then the eyes, causes the complete opening of the pupil for many hours.
Being the Scopolamine a drug, for years in Italy, my nation, sale is prohibited.

Giorgio Ardrizzi
sy Saudade III
Sharki #1 - 1980
in Le Marin, Martinique


Mounting a life raft on the SM railing

Jose Venegas
 

I am replacing my life raft with one that can be kept on the railing for easy deployment.  My current one is a balize that I am not sure I will be able to deploy in time.

I would greatly appreciate any ideas/photos/drawings and experience of SM that have installed their life raft in the reailing.

I have been debating about finding a location for easy deployment, not adding to the port listing (exaggerated by the newly installed lithium batteries or tilting more the stern and certainly not reduce front visibility.

Thank you

Jose 
Ipanema SM 2K 278
Currently in Cartagena de Indias 


Preventing Bow Thruster drop during service

Jose Venegas
 

To avoid the danger of dropping the BT when removing it or when reinstalling it, I have used the following trick.  I start with some tension in the line after the BT trunk is in a favorable position. This also works in the water as long as you can ascertain the proper position of the line. 


Re: Seasickness cures and medication

Lee-Ann Strelzow
 

Lasts for a week or so    So not a bad idea and not so expensive when you just use one.  Also you need to wear a few days before to make it effective.  Available in USA too.
Cheers
Lee Ann

We do not learn from experience. We learn from reflecting on experience."


On Jun 9, 2021, at 2:10 PM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:


The helm!

Tell crew members to tell you when they feel the least bit queasy, then put them in the helm seat and have them steer to something on the horizon, even if it is a cloud...of course, you'll have to adjust their focus when the cloud moves.

This works. Have you ever known a driver of a car to get car sick?

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 1:49 PM Germain Jean-Pierre <jp.germain45@...> wrote:
When doing aerobatic training in the RCAF, we could use Scopolamine patches. 

Luckily, I never needed one even when surrounded by very sick people. I am lucky. 

Jean-Pierre Germain, Eleuthera, SM007, NZ


On 10/06/2021, at 6:08 AM, JOHN HAYES <johnhayes862@...> wrote:


 Scopaderm a patch that sticks to the skin behind the ear and available at pharmacies in NZ is excellent for crew afflicted by sea sickness . It’s not cheap at about NZ $25 for 2 patches. You wear both. Does not make users drowsy.  I don’t use myself but always keep some on board for use when someone on board is afflicted 

John Hayes 
Nga Waka SN 61
Wellington NZ

On 10/06/2021, at 4:55 AM, eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:



I was asked by a crewmember to poll the group to find out what Amel owners used

and recommended for seasickness.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 


Re: Seasickness cures and medication

Brent Cameron
 

I used to teach aerobatics myself and was never much affected no matter the motion. Same went for flight in IMC (clouds). Boats on the other hand can get me rarely. I’m not good with sitting there jigging on deep sea fishing fishing boats where I’m exposed to the diesel exhaust or on sailboats l when I lose sight of the horizon and the boat is yawing down waves (that motion has nothing to do with flying and i guess that I’m not used to it and it can do me in until about day 3-4 and then I’m fine.). It’s funny but I always seem to get it for about a day at the evening of day 2 if it’s going to happen to me on a passage. If I make it past that, I’m fine. 

Anyway,  I’ve tried just about everything and I’ve found that:
  1) Gravol (Dimenhydrinate) - works only when I have so much that  I’m asleep.  
  2) Bonine - if taken before I leave and regularly, it can stave off the effects unless it’s really bad out there. 
  3) Elastic Sea sick Wrist Bands - I guess I’m too sceptical for them to work for me
  4) Electric Sea Sick Wrist Bands - Ditto and I’ve wound the voltage right up to the point they make me jump. 
  5) Scopalomine - Doesn’t seem to stave off Day 2/3 effects for me but do note that you really need to wash your hands well after touching these as it will completely dilate your pupils and scare the hell out of your friends and family.   I wish it worked for me as it is the easiest of the lot (well except for those wrist band things) and has the least side effects. 
 6) Sturgeron (Cinnarizine) - used by the  Royal Navy but it has significant potential side effects so is not sold in North America (but you can get it in the Caribbean and Mexico). This works perfectly for me but I only ever take it when I know it’s going to be rough and at day 2 and only until day 4. The problem with it is that it can bring on Parkinson’s if you are so inclined to get it.  Some estimates say that more than 15% of all Parkinson’s cases were associated with longer term use of this so I’m really careful with it (and have no family history of it). It doesn’t make me drowsy but it can I’m told.  

Once you get sick, time will be the only cure IMHO. Bill’s suggestion works great during the day when you can see clouds or islands and the horizon but when you lose those, lie flat and near the centre of the boat to minimize motions.  It’s funny with me. I can take rolling and pitching all day long without so much as a twinge but throw in a few unexpected yaws (slipping turn from side to side without banking) and my tummy starts to turn.   

After 3-4 days at sea, it always gets better for me and I lose any effect no matter the motion. Doesn’t help when you are suffering though as you just want to die and get it all over with. :-). 

On my last passage, we found that if we lay down the moment we started to feel something and then popped up for quick tasks and then back down right away, we could stave off any effects without medication.  

Those who never get sick have my admiration, those who always do, have my deepest sympathies.  

Brent

On Jun 9, 2021, 5:10 PM -0400, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>, wrote:
The helm!

Tell crew members to tell you when they feel the least bit queasy, then put them in the helm seat and have them steer to something on the horizon, even if it is a cloud...of course, you'll have to adjust their focus when the cloud moves.

This works. Have you ever known a driver of a car to get car sick?

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 1:49 PM Germain Jean-Pierre <jp.germain45@...> wrote:
When doing aerobatic training in the RCAF, we could use Scopolamine patches. 

Luckily, I never needed one even when surrounded by very sick people. I am lucky. 

Jean-Pierre Germain, Eleuthera, SM007, NZ


On 10/06/2021, at 6:08 AM, JOHN HAYES <johnhayes862@...> wrote:


 Scopaderm a patch that sticks to the skin behind the ear and available at pharmacies in NZ is excellent for crew afflicted by sea sickness . It’s not cheap at about NZ $25 for 2 patches. You wear both. Does not make users drowsy.  I don’t use myself but always keep some on board for use when someone on board is afflicted 

John Hayes 
Nga Waka SN 61
Wellington NZ

On 10/06/2021, at 4:55 AM, eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:



I was asked by a crewmember to poll the group to find out what Amel owners used

and recommended for seasickness.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 


--
Brent Cameron

Future Amel Owner & Amel Owner Registry Moderator

Oro-Medonte, Ontario, Canada


Re: Seasickness cures and medication

Karl & Deborah Windahl
 

Tempting the fates, but I've been lucky to never have experienced sea sickness. My wife, however, can get sick at dock and has had no problems when taking Bonine. She does get a little sleepy but nothing like with Dramamine. 
Karl Windahl
Maramu #258 "Have Fun"



On Wed, Jun 9, 2021, 12:55 PM eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:

I was asked by a crewmember to poll the group to find out what Amel owners used

and recommended for seasickness.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 


Re: SM winch motor brushes

eric freedman
 

Mike,

On a different issue on the winch. My problem was that the bolts holding the motor and gearbox to the bottom of the winch sheared off. I replaced them with stronger bolts and used locktite.

My main problem was reinstalling the winch. It is heavy to hold over my head and try to index the bolt holes. I resorted to cutting the heads of 2 longer bolts and inserted them into the motor flange. It was then very easy to install the motor by inserting the longer cut off bolts into the underside of the winch.

While you have everything apart you might replace the lip seal in the bottom of the winch and the thin plastic washer that separates the motor from the winch.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io On Behalf Of Bill Kinney
Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2021 11:17 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] SM winch motor brushes

 

Mike,

The chances of the furling motor and the winch motor sharing brushes is vanishingly small.  not QUITE zero... but very close.  The electric winches were supplied by Lewmar (they are not an Amel specific part). On our boat, the winch drive motor and gearbox were made by Bonfiglioli, while the furling motors are Leroy Somers.  If your boat has the Bonfiglioli furling motors, the chances go up by a tiny bit... I do not know if Lewmar used exactly the same motors throughout the production run for these winches.

I haven’t had the opportunity to pull apart the motors for the winches, so can’t help with the details.  Like the furling motors, these motors and gearboxes are standard industrial parts.  If you can read the motor label ahead of time, you can pre-order the brushes.  If that’s not possible, once you have the old brushes in hand and can measure them, you can almost always get them from Grainger, or one of the companies who specialize in motor brushes.

We have found that all of the Lewmar dealers and distributors in the USA (including Lewmar USA) were pretty helpless as far as helping us with parts for these winches.  Nobody we talked to had the information about how the parts for the electric version was different from the the much more common manual version. We ended up getting our parts from Ocean Chandlery in the UK.  They immediately knew and understood exactly what we needed.

And in the “for what it is worth” department:  On Leroy Somers motors used in the main sail furling system:  Leroy Somers changed the design of the motor several years ago, but KEPT EXACTLY THE SAME PART NUMBER.  The new motor has the same electrical and power specifications, bolts in place and works fine, but is a slightly smaller diameter, and, most importantly, has a completely different design for the brushes.  If you order brushes based on the part number, it is a tossup on getting the right part!  Just a heads up that having the brushes in hand and ordering based on dimensions is sometimes the best thing to do.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Eleuthera, BS


Re: Yanmar 100 HP (4JH3-HTE) Exhaust Hose Replacement

eric freedman
 

HI,

We just installed a new 4jh4hte. It is the same as your engine. It uses a stock Vetus hose.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io On Behalf Of Paul Stascavage via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2021 10:09 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Yanmar 100 HP (4JH3-HTE) Exhaust Hose Replacement

 

Thank you Bill R. and Bill K.

The wealth of knowledge on this forum saves me so much time.

I truly appreciate you both taking the time to share.

All the best,

Paul Stascavage
SM #466 - s/v Rita Kathryn
Currently Exploring City Island, NY

www.RitaKathryn.com


Re: Seasickness cures and medication

eric freedman
 

Bill,

Please ask him if he ever met Dr David Dickman.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2021 5:05 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Seasickness cures and medication

 

Paul,

 

We have an Amel Group member Super Maramu owner who is an Astronaut, a Professor of Cardiology, and was part of a Space Station crew. Additionally, he is one of the smartest people I have ever met. I will ask him and get back to you.

 

Bill

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CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School

Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 

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View My Training Calendar

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On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 1:41 PM Paul Harries via groups.io <Pharries=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

FYI

Apparently NASA has in past mandated use of scopolamine patches behind the ear for all space crew, it is used on one side at a time. I do not know how long this policy was in place.

NASA apparently selected scopolamine patches for being the best anti motion sickness medication with lowest side effects.


--
Paul Harries
Prospective Amel Buyer

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