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Re: Again a question about yacht insurance

Drew Gaffney
 

We just renewed with Topsail for our 2nd year after Pantaenius left the market and Markel/IMIS wouldn't take us back because of "pandemic in Italy" despite our never having a claim, including the previous 7 years them.
With global warming's bigger, earlier, and more frequent storms, this is only going to worsen...
Good luck!
Drew Gaffney 
Revelation SM390
Carloforte, Sardinia

On Wed, Jun 30, 2021, 19:38 Arno Luijten <arno.luijten@...> wrote:
Dear Forum,

Is anyone aware of a insurance company that offers yacht insurance for a reasonable premium that includes named windstorm coverage outside the hurricane area (Curacao)?

Our current broker (Used to be Y-yacht but taken over by Topsail) seems to unable to meet this request.

Thanks in advance,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121


Forestay replacement Maramu

Alex BAIZEAU
 

Hello,

We recently purchased a Maramu with a Nirvana Genoa furler, we are currently replacing the forestay because it cannot be inspected.

We just pulled the old one out and it seems like Somme rubber like bushings/protective sleeve were installed for around 2 meters. 


It looks like they were put together before the end fitting were installed as it doesn’t look like they can be removed.

We reinserted the forestay that Acmo built for us ( without sleeves)

Before putting everything back together we’d like to know if we should source some of those sleeves.

Thanks

Alex

Maramu #207 


Re: Change seacock on a sharki

Beaute Olivier
 

Hello Dieter,

I confirm the seacock is installed the same way on a Sharki and on an SM, as Mark describes.
If the seacock does not come off easily (it may be the original one!!!), you may help releasing it by warming up with an electric blowing heat gun.
The through-hull fitiing is a piece of threaded brass tube, glassed to the hull with GRP.

Good luck with this work.

Olivier.

On Thursday, July 1, 2021, 01:07:59 PM GMT+2, INUS - BUSCH <mail@...> wrote:


Mark,
don't know if the seacock lamination is the same on sharki, but I also assume yes. Will try as you described, I think it will come off without removing GRP. Attached is the foto. Thanks for your quick answer.
All the best
Dieter
SV Fal-lera Sharki #135


Mark Barter <markbarter100@...> hat am 01.07.2021 12:15 geschrieben:


There isn't a photo attached to your message but I have recently changed this seacock on a Super Maramu. I am assuming that they are similar.

The actual through hull is was glassed into the hull. The seacock was then attached to the through hull and then a layer of fibre glass is wrapped around the point where the through hull and seacock meet.

In order to remove the seacock you first need to remove the fibre glass that was put on after the seacock was fitted. I carefully used a multi tool and a mini grinder. A you remove the glass you will see the part of the seacock where a wrench can be fitted. I cleared that area and then a few mm underneath that so that the seacock can be turned. I didn't have to remove all of the glass. Just enough to free the seacock. Then you just need to unscrew the seacock. Ours wasn't cemented in at all and came free quite easily.

I had wanted to replace the whole thing with a composite seacock and through hull.  The through hull however was in good condition and I felt that if I just replaced the seacock with a composite one I would not have been able to get the grounding wire satisfactorily attached to the through hull. As a result I went with another metal seacock and attached the grounding wire to that. I used thread cement so I didn't feel the need to re-glass the seacock and through hull together again.

I hope that helps.
Mark  
--
Mark & Nicky Barter
S/V Nunky
SM 110


Re: Question for 50 & 55 owners about the bow thruster

Theo s/v Paloma
 

Another bow thruster picture at factory:


Re: Question for 50 & 55 owners about the bow thruster

Theo s/v Paloma
 

Bill,

I am not at the boat to check the fuse. The provided user manual is not specific to my boat. I visited the Amel factory several times, and I took the following picture of the bow thruster when it was prepped to be installed on my boat.

Theo
s/v Paloma
Amel 50 #18


Re: Amel 55 Standing Rigging replacement #replacement

 

Paul,

The last that I knew you were in the south of France, with plans to go to Sicily.

I recommend that you contact the original manufacturer of the standing rigging and the standing rigging supplier to Amel, ACMO. Contact Laetitia Boudon <Laetitia@...>. Be sure to tell her I gave you the contact information. In March 2020 ACMO's price for the 55 kit was about 13k euro plus VAT and Freight. The kit comes with all wire and all other pieces made to exact Amel specifications. This leaves little room for any rigger to make a mistake. I recommend that you ask for the optional stainless steel turnbuckles with bronze inserts rather than the chrome-plated bronze. 

I believe one of the best riggers in Europe is in Malta: Nicky Sammut <nickysail@...>. Be sure to tell Nicky that I gave you his contact information. Nicky can do this job at the Manoel Island Yacht Yard, or he will travel to your location to install the rigging and it is best if you assist him as the person on the deck while he is in the rigging.

I hope this helps you. Please contact me anytime for more information.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 6:57 PM Paul Brown <feeder.brown@...> wrote:
Hello, my name is Paul and I own an Amel 55 #17 (Fortuna II) Commissioned in February 2013.

According to Pantaenius Insurance the standing rigging will require replacement for insurance purposes by February 2023.

I am kindley seeking advise and guidance for how to replace the standing rigging, what products and manufacturer are most recommended and where I can arrange purchase of the required materials and items?

I have been a professional power line construction rigger for 40 years and a yacht owner and cruising sailor for 20 years. Although I have never replaced a standing rig on a yacht my self, I would like to attend to most of the require works under the assistance and guidance of a suitable and qualified yacht rigger local in Australia when the time arrives.

Thank you in advance for your kind assistance and input.

Regards, Paul - Fortuna II - Amel 55 #17


Re: Change seacock on a sharki

INUS - BUSCH
 

Mark,
don't know if the seacock lamination is the same on sharki, but I also assume yes. Will try as you described, I think it will come off without removing GRP. Attached is the foto. Thanks for your quick answer.
All the best
Dieter
SV Fal-lera Sharki #135


Mark Barter <markbarter100@...> hat am 01.07.2021 12:15 geschrieben:


There isn't a photo attached to your message but I have recently changed this seacock on a Super Maramu. I am assuming that they are similar.

The actual through hull is was glassed into the hull. The seacock was then attached to the through hull and then a layer of fibre glass is wrapped around the point where the through hull and seacock meet.

In order to remove the seacock you first need to remove the fibre glass that was put on after the seacock was fitted. I carefully used a multi tool and a mini grinder. A you remove the glass you will see the part of the seacock where a wrench can be fitted. I cleared that area and then a few mm underneath that so that the seacock can be turned. I didn't have to remove all of the glass. Just enough to free the seacock. Then you just need to unscrew the seacock. Ours wasn't cemented in at all and came free quite easily.

I had wanted to replace the whole thing with a composite seacock and through hull.  The through hull however was in good condition and I felt that if I just replaced the seacock with a composite one I would not have been able to get the grounding wire satisfactorily attached to the through hull. As a result I went with another metal seacock and attached the grounding wire to that. I used thread cement so I didn't feel the need to re-glass the seacock and through hull together again.

I hope that helps.
Mark  
--
Mark & Nicky Barter
S/V Nunky
SM 110


Re: Change seacock on a sharki

Mark Barter
 

There isn't a photo attached to your message but I have recently changed this seacock on a Super Maramu. I am assuming that they are similar.

The actual through hull is was glassed into the hull. The seacock was then attached to the through hull and then a layer of fibre glass is wrapped around the point where the through hull and seacock meet.

In order to remove the seacock you first need to remove the fibre glass that was put on after the seacock was fitted. I carefully used a multi tool and a mini grinder. A you remove the glass you will see the part of the seacock where a wrench can be fitted. I cleared that area and then a few mm underneath that so that the seacock can be turned. I didn't have to remove all of the glass. Just enough to free the seacock. Then you just need to unscrew the seacock. Ours wasn't cemented in at all and came free quite easily.

I had wanted to replace the whole thing with a composite seacock and through hull.  The through hull however was in good condition and I felt that if I just replaced the seacock with a composite one I would not have been able to get the grounding wire satisfactorily attached to the through hull. As a result I went with another metal seacock and attached the grounding wire to that. I used thread cement so I didn't feel the need to re-glass the seacock and through hull together again.

I hope that helps.
Mark  
--
Mark & Nicky Barter
S/V Nunky
SM 110


Change seacock on a sharki

INUS - BUSCH
 

Dear forum,

on my Sharki the seacock of the toilet-out by the time has become harder and harder to open, now it is stuck in the closed position.
From the foto it seems possible to remove the whole valve by unscrewing it from the GRP reinforced shaft. Is this the right way? And is it possible without destroying the shaft? It would be great if somebody who has undertaken this job can give me an advice how to change this seacock.

All the best
Dieter
SV Fal-lera, Sharki #135


Re: Amel 55 Standing Rigging replacement #replacement

Alain Durante
 

Bonjour Paul,

 

If you are based in south of France, I will recommend a company called Russo Yachting in La Seyne sur Mer, I just replaced the rigging, electric furlers and also new paint on the mast and they did a very nice and professional job.

 

Cordialement,

 

Alain Durante

 

Amel 54 – 21 / Meige

 

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Envoyé : jeudi 1 juillet 2021 01:57
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Objet : [AmelYachtOwners] Amel 55 Standing Rigging replacement #replacement

 

Hello, my name is Paul and I own an Amel 55 #17 (Fortuna II) Commissioned in February 2013.

According to Pantaenius Insurance the standing rigging will require replacement for insurance purposes by February 2023.

I am kindley seeking advise and guidance for how to replace the standing rigging, what products and manufacturer are most recommended and where I can arrange purchase of the required materials and items?

I have been a professional power line construction rigger for 40 years and a yacht owner and cruising sailor for 20 years. Although I have never replaced a standing rig on a yacht my self, I would like to attend to most of the require works under the assistance and guidance of a suitable and qualified yacht rigger local in Australia when the time arrives.

Thank you in advance for your kind assistance and input.

Regards, Paul - Fortuna II - Amel 55 #17


Re: Improved 24v alternator pulleys and turbo heat shield

Nick Newington
 


Hi Scot
The top photo taken from above.
The next taken from side facing to starboard
The bottom one taken from side but looking up a bit.
The shield keeps the turbo heat away from the pipe work.
Next time I motor and get the engine at full temperature and a touch of boost pressure I will measure the temps around with digital heat sensing gun.
I touched up with paint and got slightly carried away. I know that the pipe from the turbo to the exhaust mixing elbow does get hot and will likely blister off that paint. You can see in top photo the pipe heading aft. It will be hot and then cool as it hits the mixing elbow.

Overall the new shield is very neat and should do the job. 

Nick
S/Y Amelia
AML54-019 Samos Gr 

On 1 Jul 2021, at 00:12, Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...> wrote:


Thanks Nick. You find that it works as well (if not better) than the original?

I recall the service manual saying that it's imperative that the heat shield protects the oil feed and return pipes from the hot side of the turbo.

On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 2:35 AM ngtnewington Newington via groups.io <ngtnewington=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi Scott, 
I got it on eBay 
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On 29 Jun 2021, at 23:30, Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...> wrote:

Nick,

Can you provide more info about the heat shield? My turbo heat shield is destroyed, too.

I presume that since the D3's Garrett turbo is used on cars, you can find a non-marine one for less than the 500 euros that Volvo Penta wants for theirs!

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: Amel 55 Standing Rigging replacement #replacement

Eric Freedman
 

Hi Paul,

Where are you located?

Fair Winds

 

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io On Behalf Of Paul Brown
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 7:57 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Amel 55 Standing Rigging replacement #replacement

 

Hello, my name is Paul and I own an Amel 55 #17 (Fortuna II) Commissioned in February 2013.

According to Pantaenius Insurance the standing rigging will require replacement for insurance purposes by February 2023.

I am kindley seeking advise and guidance for how to replace the standing rigging, what products and manufacturer are most recommended and where I can arrange purchase of the required materials and items?

I have been a professional power line construction rigger for 40 years and a yacht owner and cruising sailor for 20 years. Although I have never replaced a standing rig on a yacht my self, I would like to attend to most of the require works under the assistance and guidance of a suitable and qualified yacht rigger local in Australia when the time arrives.

Thank you in advance for your kind assistance and input.

Regards, Paul - Fortuna II - Amel 55 #17


Re: Amel 55 Standing Rigging replacement #replacement

Germain Jean-Pierre
 

Hello Paul,

I know a great rigger in NZ. He changed my rigging in 2 days at very reasonable cost

He also rigs most racing vessels in the Bay of Islands area. 

Kind regards,

Jean-Pierre Germain, Eleuthera SM007, Opua NZ



On 1 Jul 2021, at 11:57, Paul Brown <feeder.brown@...> wrote:

Hello, my name is Paul and I own an Amel 55 #17 (Fortuna II) Commissioned in February 2013.

According to Pantaenius Insurance the standing rigging will require replacement for insurance purposes by February 2023.

I am kindley seeking advise and guidance for how to replace the standing rigging, what products and manufacturer are most recommended and where I can arrange purchase of the required materials and items?

I have been a professional power line construction rigger for 40 years and a yacht owner and cruising sailor for 20 years. Although I have never replaced a standing rig on a yacht my self, I would like to attend to most of the require works under the assistance and guidance of a suitable and qualified yacht rigger local in Australia when the time arrives.

Thank you in advance for your kind assistance and input.

Regards, Paul - Fortuna II - Amel 55 #17


Amel 55 Standing Rigging replacement #replacement

Paul Brown
 

Hello, my name is Paul and I own an Amel 55 #17 (Fortuna II) Commissioned in February 2013.

According to Pantaenius Insurance the standing rigging will require replacement for insurance purposes by February 2023.

I am kindley seeking advise and guidance for how to replace the standing rigging, what products and manufacturer are most recommended and where I can arrange purchase of the required materials and items?

I have been a professional power line construction rigger for 40 years and a yacht owner and cruising sailor for 20 years. Although I have never replaced a standing rig on a yacht my self, I would like to attend to most of the require works under the assistance and guidance of a suitable and qualified yacht rigger local in Australia when the time arrives.

Thank you in advance for your kind assistance and input.

Regards, Paul - Fortuna II - Amel 55 #17


Re: Again a question about yacht insurance

Bryce Procter
 

I was with Topsail for the last two years and were excellent to deal with. Recently not so much, a friend tried to insure his boat with them several months ago and ended up going elsewhere as I am now looking to do myself. Most boats will likely be tied up in marinas for the next year or two so surely their risk has come down.


Re: Improved 24v alternator pulleys and turbo heat shield

Scott SV Tengah
 

Thanks Nick. You find that it works as well (if not better) than the original?

I recall the service manual saying that it's imperative that the heat shield protects the oil feed and return pipes from the hot side of the turbo.

On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 2:35 AM ngtnewington Newington via groups.io <ngtnewington=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi Scott, 
I got it on eBay 



On 29 Jun 2021, at 23:30, Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...> wrote:

Nick,

Can you provide more info about the heat shield? My turbo heat shield is destroyed, too.

I presume that since the D3's Garrett turbo is used on cars, you can find a non-marine one for less than the 500 euros that Volvo Penta wants for theirs!

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: Again a question about yacht insurance

Chuck_Kim_Joy
 

Very pleased with my policy. I am in Martinique. 


Chuck Lacey 

Joy 388



John R Hall

Manager 

Anjo Insurances

Woods Centre

P.O.Box 104

St. John’s

Antigua

Direct Tel: 268 480 3060

Mobile Tel: 268 726 7047

Main Office Tel: 268 480 3050


On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 1:38 PM Arno Luijten <arno.luijten@...> wrote:
Dear Forum,

Is anyone aware of a insurance company that offers yacht insurance for a reasonable premium that includes named windstorm coverage outside the hurricane area (Curacao)?

Our current broker (Used to be Y-yacht but taken over by Topsail) seems to unable to meet this request.

Thanks in advance,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121


Re: #attackedbywhales #newboat WE SOLD THE BOAT! Now what??? Sailing Ocean F... #attackedbywhales #newboat

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi all, while the twin rudders on the 50 may look more vulnerable I doubt if any rudder could resist an orca attack. It is notable that despite the impact on the rudders reportedly the hull suffered no damage where the rudder stocks pass through.

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 30 June 2021 at 20:40 Steven Nieman <stefnieman@...> wrote:

Hi,
The attacks by the Orca’s around Portugal and around the bend into the Med is not a one time incident. The authorities think it’s a game by young macho Orca’s. There are around 10 incidents reported. Some say to stop the boat and just sit it out, others say to play music and 1 guy said it stopped when he started to sing to them😀😀
S.Nieman
Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad

Op 30 jun. 2021 om 08:31 heeft Dimitris Krasopoulos <dkrasopoulos@...> het volgende geschreven:

It is a pity that the new Amel is mentioned as a Med boat. The delivery from La Rochelle in the Atlantic Ocean to the Med is an ocean passage or a Mediterranee adventure? The whale attack close to Gilbrartar is a coincidence? 

It seems to me that the focus to a reliable boat is distorted for marketing reasons. Bad sea conditions are everywhere even in the Med. 

Στάλθηκε από το iPhone of Dimitris Krasopoulos 

On Jun 30, 2021, at 6:23 AM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:

Hi, I would put hull form at the top. The modern flying wedges are fast and the voluminous stern cockpit fashionable and popular,but I suspect ( I am a sailor not a Naval architect) not as sea kindly, nor I suspect nearly as controllable running in big winds and seas. The SM bow holds up well, doesn't dig in causing slewing. The SM tracks incredibly well off the wind in big seas.. Likewise the ketch rig. Reducing sail is a dream as is increasing it.

.Not criticizing the 50 in any way. It was just built to a different design brief to a particular target market. As we have come to expect from Amel, they have done it well.

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 30 June 2021 at 10:29 Justin Maguire <justin_maguire@...> wrote:

I’d love to know - beyond who they market to - what changes make these new boats less seaworthy world cruisers? 

The only three specific features that are regularly brought up are:
- twin rudders without the protected prop
- the loss of the ketch rig. 
- the more modern hull form that bashes more up wind (though is nicer downwind)

Build quality is as good or arguably better..

Ease of systems maintenance is as good or arguably better. 

I’m genuinely curious to learn here 



 

On Jun 29, 2021, at 17:39, Alan Leslie <s.v.elyse@...> wrote:

Absolutely agree with all of that.
Judith and I visited Amel in La Rochelle in 2019 and went for a sail on the 50.
Judith fell in love with it's creature comforts and layout and now says we'll buy one when we win the lottery!
I have all the above misgivings about it as an ocean crosser, but then maybe those days are over and as a coastal short passage cruiser the 50 would be ideal.
Certainly Antoine Riotin said the same things to me  - the target market for Amel has changed; it is no longer the circumnavigator as it was in Henri Amels day.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437 


 


 


 


 


Re: Again a question about yacht insurance

James Watkins
 

Try Edward.williams.com.   I got insurance for my Maramu for the total Caribbean including hurricane coverage.   They are a Spanish company and work with global insurers.

 

Best Regards

Jim Watkins

Maramu Act II

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Arno Luijten
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 7:37 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Again a question about yacht insurance

 

Dear Forum,

Is anyone aware of a insurance company that offers yacht insurance for a reasonable premium that includes named windstorm coverage outside the hurricane area (Curacao)?

Our current broker (Used to be Y-yacht but taken over by Topsail) seems to unable to meet this request.

Thanks in advance,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121

 


Re: #attackedbywhales #newboat WE SOLD THE BOAT! Now what??? Sailing Ocean F... #attackedbywhales #newboat

Paul Harries
 

Amel should consider giving Bill free long term loan use of an A50 as a demonstrator boat. Not only does Bill deserve recognition for his services to Amel but I can think of no better way for Amel to propogate the A50 knowledge database.


On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 12:12 PM, CW Bill Rouse wrote:
This is certainly a healthy discussion. I believe there are additional new and beneficial benefits of the Amel 50 twin rudder system. This may be a little confusing so I will try to describe:
 
Assuming the A-50 owner selected dual autopilots
  1. Either rudder can operate independently with each rudder's independent autopilot 
    1. Or each rudder's independent emergency tiller. 
  2. Both rudders can operate together with either autopilot
    1. Or together with the  independent emergency tiller connected to either quadrant
  3. The helm cables are connected to the port rudder quadrant, which can operate independently of the starboard rudder. 
  4. There is a removable stainless steel bar that connects the two quadrants. So in some emergencies, the Port rudder can be steered by the helm, its independent autopilot, or its independent tiller.
Regarding rudder failures on ocean crossings, it is too common with an "unmentioned brand" but virtually unheard of with Amel. What is more common is the loss of the autopilot, and according to Jimmy Cornell (founder of the ARC), autopilot failure happens with 5-10% of ocean crossings. I always recommend either a complete autopilot redundancy or a complete set of spares when crossing an ocean. I also recommend that the autopilot drive be installed on the quadrant rather than only at the helm.
 
I believe that the A-50 with dual autopilots includes all of my usual client recommendations for safety while crossing oceans. Additionally, Amel has added to the A50  the following:
  1. Watertight steering compartment with a separate bilge pump and alarm
  2. Dual Rudder Reference, but also each one on its rudder quadrants
  3. Dual Autopilot hydraulic pump & drive, but also each one on its rudder quadrants
  4. A new seal for the rudder post, replacing the older packing (I am not sure what this is and would love to know more...maybe an A50 owner will comment on this photo:
I absolutely love and respect the circa 70-80s design of the Amel rudder which I believe will be found on most of these models: Kirk, Sharki, Maramu, Santorin, Super Maramu, A54, A55, and A64. 
 
I also believe that the A50 rudder system has added to Amel's longtime tradition of reliability of its rudder.
 
Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
 
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
 
View My Training Calendar

On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 10:06 AM Aldo Roldan via groups.io <aroldan1796=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
This is all great news for the wallet of present owners of Amel ketches:  if Amel has, by statement of its officers,  indirectly endorsed the ketches as THE blue water, ocean-crossing vessel, which they no longer manufacture, stand to reason that they will become increasingly sought after by the crowd that wants just that: world cruising.  With more sailors falling into the current demographics of the world cruiser, as the world ages, Amel ketches will become a priceless gem!
 
AldoR
SV Araucaria 
Amel55 hull 36
 
ps.  No, I am not entertaining offers to sell mine.  I will hold onto it for as long as I can!

On Jun 30, 2021, at 8:59 AM, Patrick McAneny via groups.io <sailw32=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:

It appears as though the rudders sprang open like a clam shell,as if there was tension , when released they assumed their natural position. What would be the reason for not adding layers of fiberglass in addition to the glue, to bond the rudder halves together, making them more robust. Are the rudders on the SM not  fiber glassed together ? 
Pat
SM Shenanigans
Sassafras River, Md.


-----Original Message-----
From: Billy Newport <billy@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Sent: Wed, Jun 30, 2021 6:07 am
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] #attackedbywhales #newboat WE SOLD THE BOAT! Now what??? Sailing Ocean F...

Is the rudder on the 55 the same as the 50? 2 shells glued together?

Thanks
Billy (55#56)

 

 


 
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Paul Harries
Prospective Amel Buyer

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