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Shore power supplies - 220v and 110v

Jose Venegas <jgvenegas@...>
 

I have not tested it but I have been told that the Microwave, the Dish
Washer or the cloth washing drier SHOULD NOT be connected to shore power at
60 Hz even if it is 220V. The pervious owner told me his Microwave was
fried when a guest started it when connected to shore power!

All the rest, water heater, AC, and battery chargers work fine at 60 Hz.

Now, I am still puzzled about one detail that someone in this forum may have
an answer.
The european 240V and the power produced by the generator on board have 3
cables: one live, one neutral and one ground. When you measure the voltages
between them you have Live-neutral and Life to ground =240V, and
neutral-ground =0 volts.
In contrast, when connected to 220V us shore power, the readings from the
same terminals are: Live-neutral:220V, Life to ground 110V and neutral to
ground= 110V. This is because in the US we take the 220V shore power from a
3-phase AC supply where both Live and neutral have voltage relative to
ground.
My question is: does this difference and the fact that one does not have a
true neutral affect stray currents and electrolysis on the boat.

Jose

Ipanema SM2K 278
Hybernating at Constitution Marina
Charles Town, Massachusetts


Re: SHOWER HOSE

Jose Venegas <jgvenegas@...>
 

Hi, I just changed our shower head for one bought at HomeDepot (a few bucks
for a fancy one) and it fitted perfectly the original shower hose. It must,
therefore be a standard thread.

Jose Venegas
Ipanema SM2K 278
Hibernating at Constitution Marina, Boston


Amel Santorin: misunderstanding in Hyeres for sandblasting and antifouling

Attilio Siviero <attilio.siviero@...>
 

Hi everybody, this is my experience in doing maintenance works in Hyeres. I attch some photos separately (Album Sisila in this group).
I bought my Santorin last Winter in Cote d'Azur, the boat was idle in water since a couple of years.
I thought that for the first general revision it could be better to go to Hyeres (Amel Med), in spite of the advice of the broker (waste of money...).
All works done directly by Amel were of "first class": Amel labor force are of very high quality, even if, in spite of my request,  the manager said that davits for Santorin simply does not exist: after few months I informed him of the existence of  http://www.secteurblanc.com/en/(they are called "Boomerang", and they are the same used for Supermaramu -- but probably the stern transom must be reinforced and they are expensive, some 3.5kEuros).
But the simplest thing to be done was hull care: the survey revealed  in fact a state of abandon since several years, photos in Sisila Album (fig. 1 to 4).
After works in Hyeres (hull care was sub-contracted end of May 2009, fig. 5), we brought the boat to Genova, and then to Cagliari, Sardinia, during summer cruise.
When lifted in Cagliari, on November 2009 (after less than 6 months), the state of the hull was worse than in May, before Hyeres care (fig. 6 to 9).
After my complains with Hyeres (Amel Med), the answer  was:
........ every 5/7 years, it is normal to remove all of them and apply an epoxy coating and then a new antifouling.......
This is the difference between theory and practice! This was the reason why I went to Hyeres: to have the hull properly cared, and they did not.
Even if I did not specify it  in writing to the sub-contractor (I specified it to Amel in a email on 25/02/2009, but the order apparently did not pass),  good professionals should have suggested it, isn't it?
Maybe in Hyeres they are too busy, so the less, the better. Do not go there for your works on the boat, unless they are very Amel-specific.
Attilio&Maria
Amel Santorin #84 "Sisila"


[Amel] +Re:Safe Removal

Renos <trick2010@...>
 

Eric,
the little hole under your keyboard is for a key which you can use to open your safe, in case of a keyboard failure.

Torsten

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, kimberlite <kimberlite@...> wrote:

The little hole under my keyboard I believe is for an dc power supply to
plug the safe in if the batteries are dead.

Fair Winds

Eric





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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Rapp
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 12:05 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] +Re:Safe Removal





I have a German safe manufactured by Hartmann Tresore Model HS 605-3. My
electronic keyboard also failed recently. I have written to the manufacturer
inquiring about obtaining a new keyboard, or, failing that, there appears to
be a little keyhole under the keyboard, but I don't have the key. I have not
heard anything back from the manufacturer. Does anyone know anything about
this?
Thanks in advance
Jeffrey Rapp
s/v Antares
SM2k378

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Rép. : [Amel] Re: SHOWER HOSE & deck stripes

Serge Tremblay <laetitiaii@...>
 

Replaced both hoses ( about 1.5m between the faucets exit and the shower handle). The first one was purchased from Amel in Hyère, France, the second, after visiting a few hardware stores, from Leroy, Merlin, one of a european  large hardware store chain, in Alicante, Spain.
 
Normally water plumbing material thread from France is  similar to North America pipe thread, but i had to return the first hose purchased from the spanish hardware store and, on the spot, find one that had the same thread as the original hose.
I did not attempt to accurately establish the thread size.
 
There was not a notable difference between the price of the hose from Amel and Leroy. Merlin, but when i called Amel, the delivery service they insisted on using made it very expensive. I am sure that if a friend had purchased the hose for me from Amel and then mailed it as standard snail mail, it would have been, time wise, even more economical than finding the right one in a local store.
 
As for the deck stripes, in 2008, a friend purchased for me 250 ml of the stripe colored resin and 500 ml of ivory (Renault beige) colored resin for the deck from Amel in Larochelle France and transported it to the Caribean. The stripe color has withstood the caribean sun for one year but the deck ivory resin, which originally correctly matched the deck a day after application, has become darker and, unless i repaint the whole deck, my only hope for curing this cosmetic problem, is that the sun will fade the patches.
 
I was told i could purchase the colored resin from th Amel base in Guadeloupe, but never received an answer to two e-mails enquiries.
 
When i visited Amel's storage space in Hyère in 2005 in order to purchase a panel of standard varnished veneer, i saw small colored resin containers on the shelves. I guess, if Amel stands on using the most expensive (but not always most reliable) delivery service,  the problem a group like ours, with boat all over the world, should be able to solve is to find a reasonably priced French Freight Forwarder, if it exist! Some of us do not need express service or would be ready to pick up their Amel material from a freight wharehouse or a postal office.
 
Serge, Mango 51

 

De: amelliahona <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
Objet: [Amel] Re: SHOWER HOSE
À: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: lundi 23 Novembre 2009, 22 h 18


 



Forgive me, but it is unclear to me from the posts which part of the shower hose
failed. Was it the hand set with the shower head, the hose portion, the head
mounting bracket/holder or a combination of these?

My hose section failed after several years and I was able to purchase a replacement
hose only at my local plumbing store for about $7.00 US. The fittings were standard
US threads (I think) as everything went together without effort.

My mounting bracket/holder failed at the plastic screws holes that held the
unit to the wall. I repaired this by potting some washers in structural adhesive
in the remaining bracket/holder.

Fortunately my head portion has not failed. I suspect that any hand held shower
head and hose will attache to the outlet of the mixing valve on the wall and will
be a direct replacement.

Regards, Gary Silver Amel SM2000 Hull # 335 "Liahona" Antigua









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[Amel] Re: SHOWER HOSE

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Forgive me, but it is unclear to me from the posts which part of the shower hose
failed. Was it the hand set with the shower head, the hose portion, the head
mounting bracket/holder or a combination of these?

My hose section failed after several years and I was able to purchase a replacement
hose only at my local plumbing store for about $7.00 US. The fittings were standard
US threads (I think) as everything went together without effort.

My mounting bracket/holder failed at the plastic screws holes that held the
unit to the wall. I repaired this by potting some washers in structural adhesive
in the remaining bracket/holder.

Fortunately my head portion has not failed. I suspect that any hand held shower
head and hose will attache to the outlet of the mixing valve on the wall and will
be a direct replacement.

Regards, Gary Silver Amel SM2000 Hull # 335 "Liahona" Antigua


Re: Deck Striping update

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Hi Bill:
You are correct in that this is not your problem. I was the one who originally
came up with and posted the bright idea of mixing the colors to give
the nice Hershey Chocolate color. My paint did the same thing but it took about
2 years and went through several stages. It first turned black then took on a
black green sheen. My Polytrol also failed within a year. It first turned somewhat
clear white, then looked like a fleece or someone's bad sunburn peeling off. It
eventually complete flaked off leaving the deck and stripes none the worse for
wear and tear. It sure did look nice for 6 months or so.

I am sorry that my idea and posting led you down this path. I thought I posted
something on the color change but I don't recall for sure. I know that red
pigments oxidize more quickly than other colors and I suspect the red
colored paint is the culprit. I am wondering about using colored gelcoat next
time I do my stripes.

I am currently just living with my black/green stripes and will be back on the boat
in about a week after being absent for the last 6 months. I will let you know
what color the stripes are now.

Best, Gary Silver Amel SM2000 Hull 335 "Liahona" Antigua

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "svbebe" <yahoogroups@...> wrote:

All,

We used Interlux Brightside single part polyurethane paint to re-stripe our deck. We bought a quart of red, a quart of green, and a quart of white. We mixed the colors until we had an exact match to the chocolate and applied the paint with a striping wheel. The paint dried and looked great for about 2 months in New Zealand sun. After several months, the paint began to turn from chocolate to green. It is now green!

We are not sure what went wrong, but wanted to let you know that we regret NOT getting the color professionally color-matched.

THE PROBLEM
I do not believe it was the paint: Interlux Brightside
I do not believe it was the mixer: me
And I am absolutely sure it was not the striper: Judy

I guess for the time being we will blame it on the Kiwi's!

Best,

Bill
s/v BeBe, SM2, #387
currently Malaysia


Jabsco Mascerator Pump

svbebe <yahoogroups@...>
 

All,

I recently posted a Web Site Enquiry at http://www.jabscoshop.com/feedback/

I complained that the last two Mascerator Pump replacements lasted less than one year and failed. The failure occurred because of some sort of reaction between the stainless blade, retaining nut and stainless motor shaft that deteriorated the threads on the motor shaft. This caused the nut to loosen.

I suspect the nut is not stainless where the other two parts are stainless. I uploaded a photo of the shaft and nut in the "Head Service" folder in the photo section of this site. You should be able to view it at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/1980087538/pic/list

In the feedback form I asked for 2 replacements. Jabsco responded promptly and asked for the failed pumps' serial numbers. I had the serial numbers and also sent them a copy of the purchase receipt for the two failed pumps and a photo of the failed threads and suspect nut.

Jabsco shipped two new pumps at no charge and freight free.

I was pleasantly surprised.

Best,

Bill
s/v BeBe, SM2, #387
currently Malaysia


Deck Striping update

svbebe <yahoogroups@...>
 

All,

We used Interlux Brightside single part polyurethane paint to re-stripe our deck. We bought a quart of red, a quart of green, and a quart of white. We mixed the colors until we had an exact match to the chocolate and applied the paint with a striping wheel. The paint dried and looked great for about 2 months in New Zealand sun. After several months, the paint began to turn from chocolate to green. It is now green!

We are not sure what went wrong, but wanted to let you know that we regret NOT getting the color professionally color-matched.

THE PROBLEM
I do not believe it was the paint: Interlux Brightside
I do not believe it was the mixer: me
And I am absolutely sure it was not the striper: Judy

I guess for the time being we will blame it on the Kiwi's!

Best,

Bill
s/v BeBe, SM2, #387
currently Malaysia


[Amel] Re: SHOWER HOSE

svbebe <yahoogroups@...>
 

Chuck & Everyone,

In reading this thread it seems to me that no one has actually purchased a replacement.

I remain very interested in a response that specifies where an actual replacement has been purchased.

Chuck, it has been way to long...how are you?

Best,

Bill
s/v BeBe, SM2, #387
Bill"at"svbebe.com
currently Malaysia

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "william rahmig" <leonorebt@...> wrote:

Hello Chuck,
Been trying to contact you but no response. What is your current email address?
Bill leonore of sark


----- Original Message -----
From: usrey_chuck
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 11/14/2009 9:12:57 AM
Subject: [Amel] Re: SHOWER HOSE




Hello

My shower hose also broke and I wanted to replace it with one of the original style. I spent a lot of time searching internet sites, including the one from the faucet manufacture, but could not find the exact one. So, I gave up and ordered one from Amel. They sent me a stripped one similar to what I found in hardware stores and on the internet alone with a note that the original model was no longer available.

Best bet is to find a hose that has the same end fittings and buy it.

Take Care
Chuck
S/V Helen Louise
ASM30

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Horst Pause <horst.puddleduck@> wrote:

The shower hose in one of my bathrooms is broken.

Has anybody renewed theirs? or knows of a source for it?

Thanks,

Horst - Puddleduck

Maramu No.168, 1985









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Re: [Amel] Re: SHOWER HOSE

william rahmig <leonorebt@...>
 

Hello Chuck,
Been trying to contact you but no response. What is your current email address?
Bill leonore of sark

----- Original Message -----
From: usrey_chuck
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 11/14/2009 9:12:57 AM
Subject: [Amel] Re: SHOWER HOSE




Hello

My shower hose also broke and I wanted to replace it with one of the original style. I spent a lot of time searching internet sites, including the one from the faucet manufacture, but could not find the exact one. So, I gave up and ordered one from Amel. They sent me a stripped one similar to what I found in hardware stores and on the internet alone with a note that the original model was no longer available.

Best bet is to find a hose that has the same end fittings and buy it.

Take Care
Chuck
S/V Helen Louise
ASM30

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Horst Pause <horst.puddleduck@...> wrote:

The shower hose in one of my bathrooms is broken.

Has anybody renewed theirs? or knows of a source for it?

Thanks,

Horst - Puddleduck

Maramu No.168, 1985





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Re: [Amel] Coppercoat anti-fouling

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Hi Martin, Yes, we have just had Pen Azen Coppercoated. She is SM no. 302, launched in June 2000. We had her treated by Symblast on the Hamble. Essentially, they sandblasted the antifouling off, leaving a very shiny gel coat which they then needed to abraid with a disc sander to get a good key. They then rolled on 4 coats of Coppercoat, an epoxy with 18% copper powder mixed in--they mix one litre at a time- and with the iron keel they took it back to shiny metal, treated the metal with its own epoxy ( several layers) and then coppercoated on top. We had it done in August , in dry weather. Symblast were very conscious of putting it on in the dry, though I think that Coppercoat themselves are a bit more relaxed. I did a fair amount of research before opting for Coppercoat. If you email them ( info@coppercoat.com) they give prompt and full answers Undoubtedly there were some horror stories in the earlier years amongst other firms ( with similar names) who didn't get the mix right and most of them have gone out of business as a result. However, Coppercoat do seem to have cracked it. The editor of Practical Boat Owner put it on her boat 10 years ago and swears by it--and her boat is only out of the water for 12 HOURS a year! She doesn't do anything to improve the surface, though you do hear of some who are in very polluted river waters who occasionally rub off a layer of slime. Coppercoat claim to have treated about 30,000 boats and when Oyster and Sunseeker are using their product that says a lot to me. See www.coppercoat.com Pen Azen is at Swanwick marina. She has only been back in the water for a couple of months, so its early days. Give me a buzz if you want to know more. My cel phone is 07870659844 Cheers, Ian and Judy Jenkins, Pen Azen, SM 302

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
From: yachtcaduceus@yahoo.co.uk
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 16:07:49 +0000
Subject: [Amel] Coppercoat anti-fouling

When our Amel 54 was being built the yard declined to consider applying Coppercoat saying that it would invalidate their anti-osmosis guarantee.

Coppercoat appealed then as it does now, the thought of an antifouling that will last 10 years in most conditions has great appeal.

Our boat is currently in Ipswich amongst a glittering array of new Oyster yachts, and standing up to scrutiny particularly well. In discussion with the yard manager it came out that over 50% of new Oysters are being treated with Coppercoat, including the latest yacht built for the recently retired Chairman. On the basis that what is good for the Oyster should be good for the Amel does anyone out there have experience with Coppercoat and Amel yachts?

Regards,

Martin Bevan
Caduceus - Amel 54 No 56 2007



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Re: [Amel] Shore power supplies - 220v and 110v

Robin Cooter <robincooter@...>
 

We did the same when we went over with our Santorin.   Went from Key West to Maine and never had a problem with the electrics.
 
Regards,
 
Robin Cooter
Santorin 004 - Belouga

--- On Sun, 22/11/09, kimberlite <kimberlite@optonline.net> wrote:


From: kimberlite <kimberlite@optonline.net>
Subject: RE: [Amel] Shore power supplies - 220v and 110v
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, 22 November, 2009, 18:05


 



We use a 50 amp usa bayonet plug and wire it using the blue hooked to the
red on the plug, the brown hooked to the black and the green to the green.
The white is not used.

This gives you 220 volts 60 cycles which works most of the items on the
boat.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

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From: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Martin
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 11:24 AM
To: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [Amel] Shore power supplies - 220v and 110v

We intend to cross from Europe to the Caribbean with ARC 2010 and then to
cruise the Caribbean and during the summer of 2011 to travel up the east
coasts of the USA.

We have a standard European fitted Amel 54 that functions on 220v 50Hz.

I would be grateful for advice on how to cope with 110v and 60Hz assuming
that is possible, in order to take advantage of shore power during our vist
to the United States.

Regards,
Martin Bevan
Caduceus - Amel 54 No 56 2007

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spreader boots

WilliamR <leonorebt@...>
 

Hello all,
I have lost a boot on the stb main spreader and it hurts the genoa. I believe it just deterioated and would like to replace all 4 on the main mast. Can suitable ones be found in the states? Most I've seen are too small. Thoughts?

Bill Rahmig Leonore of Sark SM72


Rép. : [Amel] Shore power supplies - 220v and 110v

Serge Tremblay <laetitiaii@...>
 

Hi Martin,
 
As a North american, i had the same problem, going back and forth between places where 110 acv 60 hz prevailed and Europe or the FWI where it was 220 acv 50 hz... Furthermore, being from a country where 110 is the norm, all my hand tools, including kitchen equipment were 110 and someone gave me a 110 clothewasher, to replace my rusted 220 machine.  
 
I installed a 220-110, 3500w transformer in the ac circuit, a ground protecting device for shore power, a 110 connection for the marinas and a master selector switch for the entry plugs.
 
The only problem encountered was a 220 water pump for my Siemen dishwasher, i replaced same with a DC water pump, activated by a relay.
 
When ac power is on, i have the two voltages and i have taken advantage of this in my earlier computer setup where prices for 220 equipment was higher than 110 as well as for other equipment such as a 110 micowave oven which was inexpensive here and a 220 micowave was not readily available.
 
However in recent years, many computer accessories run from a transformer-regulator capable of both 110 and 220, my 110 micowave broke down when i was in Spain in 2007 and was replaced with a 220 model.
 
My main battery 220 charger/inverter (Sterling, with which i replaced a 1000w Mastervolt charger/inverter) works well with this system, howevever, i do cutout the transformer, if the 110 is not required since the transformer does draw about 125 milli amp,  (about 25 watts), on the inverter even if 110 power is not required. I also have a variety of chargers for the PDA, the portable telephones, the VHF, the portable drills, the small battery chargers, some run on 110 others on 220 and they are disconnected when i am not on shore power and the charge is not needed.
 
As for the existing clothewasher, i saw an interesting 220 top loading model in Martinique with whhich i expect to replace the existing 110 machine. Not having connected the housing of the latter to the  general grounding circuit, the 10 year old machine is starting to rust and is less efficient than the newer machines.
 
I know that with a recent Amel you are not yet concerned with the aging of the electrical equipment, but with my experience you can see that having the choice of voltages does offer more than the opportunity to use 110 shore power at marinas.
 
BTW, when looking for transformers,  you will find models fully encapsulated in resin. They are well designed for marina operators or yachties installing same on a dock, but are bulky and seemed to be relatively expensive. My transformer is a simple one that i recoated with epoxyde paint, it is installed in the engine room, affixed to the partition wall of the pilot berth.
 
Hope to hear about your choice.
 
Serge , Mango 51

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--- En date de : Dim, 22.11.09, Martin <yachtcaduceus@yahoo.co.uk> a écrit :


De: Martin <yachtcaduceus@yahoo.co.uk>
Objet: [Amel] Shore power supplies - 220v and 110v
À: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: dimanche 22 Novembre 2009, 11 h 23


 



We intend to cross from Europe to the Caribbean with ARC 2010 and then to cruise the Caribbean and during the summer of 2011 to travel up the east coasts of the USA.

We have a standard European fitted Amel 54 that functions on 220v 50Hz.

I would be grateful for advice on how to cope with 110v and 60Hz assuming that is possible, in order to take advantage of shore power during our vist to the United States.

Regards,
Martin Bevan
Caduceus - Amel 54 No 56 2007









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Re: [Amel] Downwind sailing with a 54

eric freedman
 

Martin,

We purchased a heavy gennaker and sail it in 30 knots true down wind.

On crossing we had it up for 7 days straight.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite







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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Martin
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 11:35 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] Downwind sailing with a 54





I would be interested to receive feedback from other 54 owners in
particular, and other Amel owners in general, as to your experience with
trade wind, downwind, sailing and what other sail plan options that you may
have tried.

Unlike earlier Amel yachts the 54 does not have the Amel twin headsail
option, relying on the genoa, a single bearing out pole and a light weight
(15kts max) genaker.

We are usually sailing with only the two of us aboard and our options are
limited in respect of spinakers and the like, given the problems and risks
involved in handling in rising winds.

Regards,
Martin Bevan
Caduceus - Amel 54 No 56 2007


Re: [Amel] Shore power supplies - 220v and 110v

eric freedman
 

We use a 50 amp usa bayonet plug and wire it using the blue hooked to the
red on the plug, the brown hooked to the black and the green to the green.
The white is not used.

This gives you 220 volts 60 cycles which works most of the items on the
boat.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Martin
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 11:24 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] Shore power supplies - 220v and 110v





We intend to cross from Europe to the Caribbean with ARC 2010 and then to
cruise the Caribbean and during the summer of 2011 to travel up the east
coasts of the USA.

We have a standard European fitted Amel 54 that functions on 220v 50Hz.

I would be grateful for advice on how to cope with 110v and 60Hz assuming
that is possible, in order to take advantage of shore power during our vist
to the United States.

Regards,
Martin Bevan
Caduceus - Amel 54 No 56 2007


Re: [Amel] Coppercoat anti-fouling

Horst Pause <horst.puddleduck@...>
 

I applied Coppercoat 2 seasons ago and sailed in Greek waters. Each season the boat was stationery in a marina for more than 2 months (July and August). In Thessaloniki, after a full 3 months, minor algal growth happened, easily scraped off. In Rethimno, 2 months, no growth. During both seasons there happened not a single barnacle. This November, when the boat was lifted out in Koilada, after a pressure wash everything was first class. I am happy with the result.

I cannot understand Amel in this respect. Coppercoat is an epoxy (with loads of copper powder), this should enhance any osmosis protection. I have seen 3 boats (not Amel quality), one after 5 years (needed small areas redoing) one with 8 (no growth), one with 9 (although perfect, they applied 2 more layers as they had the materials ready).

Horst - Puddleduck
Maramu No.168, 1985

P.S. I live in the Isle of Man





________________________________
From: Martin <yachtcaduceus@yahoo.co.uk>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, 22 November, 2009 16:07:49
Subject: [Amel] Coppercoat anti-fouling


When our Amel 54 was being built the yard declined to consider applying Coppercoat saying that it would invalidate their anti-osmosis guarantee.

Coppercoat appealed then as it does now, the thought of an antifouling that will last 10 years in most conditions has great appeal.

Our boat is currently in Ipswich amongst a glittering array of new Oyster yachts, and standing up to scrutiny particularly well. In discussion with the yard manager it came out that over 50% of new Oysters are being treated with Coppercoat, including the latest yacht built for the recently retired Chairman. On the basis that what is good for the Oyster should be good for the Amel does anyone out there have experience with Coppercoat and Amel yachts?

Regards,

Martin Bevan
Caduceus - Amel 54 No 56 2007


Re: [Amel] Re: SHOWER HOSE

Horst Pause <horst.puddleduck@...>
 

Thanks for that Mike, very much appreciated. Unfortunately I am in Europe and have no direct access to Home Depot; their internet access does not give connector sizes. Also, Amel being European, I would suspect that the hose connectors would be metric.

Horst




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From: mwestley47 <mwestley47@yahoo.com>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, 22 November, 2009 5:39:47
Subject: [Amel] Re: SHOWER HOSE


Simple fix are RV shower hoses. Take your hoses to Home Depot and you'll find an option.

Mike Westley
SV Resolute

--- In amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com, Horst Pause <horst.puddleduck@ ...> wrote:

The shower hose in one of my bathrooms is broken.

Has anybody renewed theirs? or knows of a source for it?

Thanks,

Horst - Puddleduck

Maramu No.168, 1985







Downwind sailing with a 54

Martin <yachtcaduceus@...>
 

I would be interested to receive feedback from other 54 owners in particular, and other Amel owners in general, as to your experience with trade wind, downwind, sailing and what other sail plan options that you may have tried.

Unlike earlier Amel yachts the 54 does not have the Amel twin headsail option, relying on the genoa, a single bearing out pole and a light weight (15kts max) genaker.

We are usually sailing with only the two of us aboard and our options are limited in respect of spinakers and the like, given the problems and risks involved in handling in rising winds.

Regards,
Martin Bevan
Caduceus - Amel 54 No 56 2007