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Re: Reinsert SM Bow Thruster after service

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Eammon, 

Firstly the center spline. It does wobble from side to side but for some reason does enter without too much trouble, But to line the spline up I wriggle the propeller back and forth while maintaining upward pressure. When I am putting it in I have the motor lowered to half height convenient to slip a bolt in once it is in place. Because of the fact it flops off center I am always surprised how easily it enters. There is a bit of a chamfer on the end of the spline that helps it to enter.

Rust. From day one when we bought her 12 years ago Ocean Pearls connection was well oiled and has remained so. I ensure it is well greased before re entering it and I have never had any rust develop. I doubt if machining is needed. Clean the rust off by whatever means you can and then apply lot of a good quality grease into and around it, spline included. Does salt water get onto that connection area? I cant see how unless you are in the habit of leaving the bow thruster down when underway and the seals are leaking allowing water to get in.

Not much help I guess

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

Mangonui New Zealand

On 17 July 2021 at 06:59 Eamonn Washington <eamonn.washington@...> wrote:

Hi

every 2 years I service the bow thruster, changing the oil and lip seals and foam doughnuts  and greasing the tube on my Super Maramu.  Every 2 years it is a nightmare getting the bow thruster to detach from the motor after the 4 bolts are removed, and a bigger nightmare to reinsert it. The cast iron at the base of the motor is rusty, which I treated.  I am the 4th owner and the third owner did not maintain the boat well.

My problem is that I simply cannot reinsert the bow thruster back into the motor.  I gather from this forum that for some it is always "sweet", it just slides in. 

I guess the difficulty getting it out implies that it will be difficult to get in.  But I give up.  So what can I do to improve the situation now and in the future?  Should I take the rusty base out and machine it to make it possible to slide the bow thruster in?  If I have to go down this route then I will give up hope of sailing this year.  It seems to be a mammoth task.

I am not sure if the center spline is the problem too; what do you do to ensure that it stays in the center as you push up the lower part.

Am I the only one with the reinserting the bow thruster after service problem?

Thanks

Eamonn Washington
Travel Bug
Super Maramu #151
On the hard, New Ross, Ireland.


Re: Sidepower oil loss

Dominique Sery
 

Hello Alexander, 
I had the same problem. There was a leak on the small plastic tank, i remove it and put another one.
Dominique
Irko A54#16


Reinsert SM Bow Thruster after service

Eamonn Washington
 

Hi

every 2 years I service the bow thruster, changing the oil and lip seals and foam doughnuts  and greasing the tube on my Super Maramu.  Every 2 years it is a nightmare getting the bow thruster to detach from the motor after the 4 bolts are removed, and a bigger nightmare to reinsert it. The cast iron at the base of the motor is rusty, which I treated.  I am the 4th owner and the third owner did not maintain the boat well.

My problem is that I simply cannot reinsert the bow thruster back into the motor.  I gather from this forum that for some it is always "sweet", it just slides in. 

I guess the difficulty getting it out implies that it will be difficult to get in.  But I give up.  So what can I do to improve the situation now and in the future?  Should I take the rusty base out and machine it to make it possible to slide the bow thruster in?  If I have to go down this route then I will give up hope of sailing this year.  It seems to be a mammoth task.

I am not sure if the center spline is the problem too; what do you do to ensure that it stays in the center as you push up the lower part.

Am I the only one with the reinserting the bow thruster after service problem?

Thanks

Eamonn Washington
Travel Bug
Super Maramu #151
On the hard, New Ross, Ireland.


Sidepower oil loss

Alexander Ramseyer
 

Hi,
my Sidepower bowthruster seems to loose oil. I'm regularly refilling the small plastic tank that sits next to it and it regularly empties again.
Did somebody on this forum have the same problem?
Is there a seal kit or similar available to tackle the problem?
Best, Alex
sv NO STRESS
AMEL54#15


Re: A/C fan speed

Courtney Gorman
 

You never really want to run it any slower or it freezes up 
Cheers 
Courtney 
Trippin 


On Jul 16, 2021, at 11:14 AM, Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...> wrote:

The A/C fan speed in the master cabin does not change and stays at 4, regardless of the setting. I’m suspecting a capacitor issue, but was wondering if anyone has seen a troubleshooting guide that helps pinpoint the issue as to which one, or the controller or something else?


Re: A/C fan speed

 

I believe that somewhere about mid-production of the A-54 the Climma Compact units changed from capacitor-controlled fan speed to a semiconductor-controlled fan speed. If you have the "before  semiconductor-controlled fan speed," I believe that you probably have one of the two PCBs below.
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The "C1" in the middle can be 4.0 rather than 3.15
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On Fri, Jul 16, 2021 at 11:56 AM Arno Luijten <arno.luijten@...> wrote:
Not much help but if the fan keeps running at max speed it’s typically a semiconductor (MOS-FET, Power transistor, etc.) that has given up and acts like a full conductor. You could try to trace the circuit for the fan to see if you see a big transistor-like component. Often it will be attached to some cooling body.  Make sure the unit has no power.
Now you can measure across the connection points of the component. If you see zero ohm resistance across some of the points the component is suspect and has to be desoldered. Again measure the resistance across the contacts. If it again measures (close to) zero ohm chances are you found the problem. 
I have not seen a proper schematic diagram for the Climma units.

Cheers,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121


Re: A/C fan speed

Arno Luijten
 

Not much help but if the fan keeps running at max speed it’s typically a semiconductor (MOS-FET, Power transistor, etc.) that has given up and acts like a full conductor. You could try to trace the circuit for the fan to see if you see a big transistor-like component. Often it will be attached to some cooling body.  Make sure the unit has no power.
Now you can measure across the connection points of the component. If you see zero ohm resistance across some of the points the component is suspect and has to be desoldered. Again measure the resistance across the contacts. If it again measures (close to) zero ohm chances are you found the problem. 
I have not seen a proper schematic diagram for the Climma units.

Cheers,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121


A/C fan speed

Mohammad Shirloo
 

The A/C fan speed in the master cabin does not change and stays at 4, regardless of the setting. I’m suspecting a capacitor issue, but was wondering if anyone has seen a troubleshooting guide that helps pinpoint the issue as to which one, or the controller or something else?


Re: Bow thruster does not work in one direction

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Agreed. Although with practice it is possible to back an Amel without a bowthruster, in tight marinas with cross wind, it is not wise. In The Med, I consider the bowthruster,  a safety item that should not be down for long.


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of CW Bill Rouse via groups.io <brouse@...>
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 6:03:32 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Bow thruster does not work in one direction
 
The fact that a SidePower dealer in Croatia had 2 solenoids in stock should be a sign to all SidePower owners that it is a really good thing to have one of these available to replace when the original is 8-10 years old.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
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On Fri, Jul 16, 2021 at 10:54 AM Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...> wrote:
Update. The cleaning and service of the main solenoid was only good for a few uses. It stopped working again. I took apart again and the carbon buildup was back. I tried leveling the contacts by using a dermal abbrasive blade, but found that there was no contact left at two of the contact points. I found the Sidepower dealer in Croatia, he had two of the solenoids in stock. Installed new one 2 days later and all functioning well.


Re: Bow thruster does not work in one direction

 

The fact that a SidePower dealer in Croatia had 2 solenoids in stock should be a sign to all SidePower owners that it is a really good thing to have one of these available to replace when the original is 8-10 years old.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Fri, Jul 16, 2021 at 10:54 AM Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...> wrote:
Update. The cleaning and service of the main solenoid was only good for a few uses. It stopped working again. I took apart again and the carbon buildup was back. I tried leveling the contacts by using a dermal abbrasive blade, but found that there was no contact left at two of the contact points. I found the Sidepower dealer in Croatia, he had two of the solenoids in stock. Installed new one 2 days later and all functioning well.


Re: Bow thruster does not work in one direction

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Update. The cleaning and service of the main solenoid was only good for a few uses. It stopped working again. I took apart again and the carbon buildup was back. I tried leveling the contacts by using a dermal abbrasive blade, but found that there was no contact left at two of the contact points. I found the Sidepower dealer in Croatia, he had two of the solenoids in stock. Installed new one 2 days later and all functioning well.


Re: Spinnaker pole strut mast fitting ball joint replacement?

Kevin Schmit
 

Here’s a picture of the finished product.  Still needs a final “fit&finish”.


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Re: Spinnaker pole strut mast fitting ball joint replacement?

Kevin Schmit
 


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Re: Mastervolt Alpha High-Output Alternator Temperature when charging LiFePO4

Scott SV Tengah
 

I attached the Mastervolt BATTERY temperature sensor to the outer casing of the MV110 amp alternator and wired it to the Alpha Pro II alternator temperature sensor input. Mastervolt techs said this is ok. While this may not be inside, I also seem to remember that the MV software sets the cutoff temperature for the alternator MUCH higher than 115C. 

I have had this setup for over 2 years with my lifepo4 setup and have definitely run it for 2-3+ hours at max output with no problems. Of course by saying that, my alternator will fail tomorrow. :)

On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 2:24 AM Dominique Sery via groups.io <dominiquesery=me.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hello Dean, the Mastervolt alternator temperature is 115° C after one one hour at 95 A and stay at 115°.

I put an alternator temperature sensor but it does not work very well because i put it 
on B+ output where the temperature rise 60° C. I can’t put the sensor at the warmest point. I mesured the inside temperature at 115.

All mesures with a Fluke infrared thermometer.
Dominique


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Re: wheel removal

Slavko Despotovic
 

Hi Eric,

tool I used to remove wheel.

regards.
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SM 2000
#279 Bonne Anse in Portoroz


Re: wheel removal

Patrick McAneny
 

Eric ,My center wheel plate was made of aluminum and came off easily, the wheel itself took a lot of pressure to remove.
Pat
SM Shenanigans


-----Original Message-----
From: eric freedman <kimberlite@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Sent: Thu, Jul 15, 2021 3:37 am
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] wheel removal

 
I am planning to take the wheel,  the  main furling gearbox, and the outhaul gearbox off of Kimberlite and have them powder coated . Then the wheel will have new leather installed. The Amel plate in the center of the wheel plate is not cooperating. I believe the plate is stainless and the wheel is aluminum , I think galvanic corrosion is my problem.
Beside removing the 2 screws from the Amel plate in the center of the wheel, is there some trick to remove the plate?.
Fair Winds,
Eric
Sm 376 Kimberlite


Re: Mastervolt Alpha High-Output Alternator Temperature when charging LiFePO4

Dominique Sery
 

Hello Dean, the Mastervolt alternator temperature is 115° C after one one hour at 95 A and stay at 115°.

I put an alternator temperature sensor but it does not work very well because i put it 
on B+ output where the temperature rise 60° C. I can’t put the sensor at the warmest point. I mesured the inside temperature at 115.

All mesures with a Fluke infrared thermometer.
Dominique


Re: wheel removal

Alan Grayson
 

Mine had nothing except the 2 screws holding it on but still needed a small pick to pry under the edges to remove it.
Alan Grayson
SM 406 Ora Pai
Ft Lauderdale


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of eric freedman <kimberlite@...>
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2021 3:37:01 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] wheel removal
 

 

I am planning to take the wheel,  the  main furling gearbox, and the outhaul gearbox off of Kimberlite and have them powder coated . Then the wheel will have new leather installed. The Amel plate in the center of the wheel plate is not cooperating. I believe the plate is stainless and the wheel is aluminum , I think galvanic corrosion is my problem.

Beside removing the 2 screws from the Amel plate in the center of the wheel, is there some trick to remove the plate?.

Fair Winds,

Eric

Sm 376 Kimberlite


wheel removal

Eric Freedman
 

 

I am planning to take the wheel,  the  main furling gearbox, and the outhaul gearbox off of Kimberlite and have them powder coated . Then the wheel will have new leather installed. The Amel plate in the center of the wheel plate is not cooperating. I believe the plate is stainless and the wheel is aluminum , I think galvanic corrosion is my problem.

Beside removing the 2 screws from the Amel plate in the center of the wheel, is there some trick to remove the plate?.

Fair Winds,

Eric

Sm 376 Kimberlite


Re: Spinnaker pole strut mast fitting ball joint replacement?

Kevin Schmit
 

FYI,

 

Maude got back to me last week with a replacement.  It appears that Amel has switched from a plastic to an aluminum ball joint.  I’m going to attempt to fabricate my own on a lathe using Natural HDPE rod.  I’ll share with the group how it “turns” (ha-ha pun…) out.

 

Regards,

 

Kevin Schmit

SM #362

Portsmouth, NH

 

 

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