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Re: Fuel Stick

 

Pat,

I probably did not make myself clear regarding the electric toilets. I later model SMs and all models from the 54 onward, Amel installed a current leak detector (MASS). It is a small toggle switch and LED which will test for a connection between the house bank positive and Bonding as well as the house bank negative and bonding.

When a failure is indicated by the LED, it is almost always caused by a failed seal on the macerator pump on the toilet, unless of course if someone has made some change or addition to the wiring anywhere on the boat.

This is what it looks like on a 54:
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Snippet from my book:
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In your case without the Amel-designed testing device, I think you can do this to see if you have a leak...finding it will be another chapter...let me know.
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CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 2:13 PM Patrick McAneny via groups.io <sailw32=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Bill , That is why I asked, I thought it may present a problem . I suppose I could cap the end or keep it out of the tank and store it elsewhere. 
You may remember that I have been eating up my zincs faster than normal. You have said that the electric toilets are a source of electrical leak. Does that occur only when you run it ,have the switch on? Maybe I should email yo direct or put it a new thread.
Thanks,
Pat
SM Shenanigans


-----Original Message-----
From: CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Sent: Sat, Jul 24, 2021 2:59 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Fuel Stick

The reason you should not is that your SM tank is made of 316 stainless steel. You will get dissimilar metal corrosion where the stick touches the tank...worse case is that the corrosion will penetrate the tank.

The above is not true with later model tanks beginning with the 54 that are made of aluminum.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
+1 832-380-4970 | brouse@...
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
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On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 1:55 PM Patrick McAneny via groups.io <sailw32=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
I broke my plastic fuel stick , I am thinking about making one from aluminum bar stock. Is there any reason that would be a problem to use in the fuel tank ?
Thanks,
Pat
SM Shenanigans


Re: Fuel Stick

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Pat, I am sure it is possible to repair the fuel dip sick. I haven't done it but a wrap of fiberglass cloth and resin should do it with good cleaning beforehand eg with acetone.

Kind Regards

Danny

SM 299 Ocean Pearl

On 25 July 2021 at 07:13 "Patrick McAneny via groups.io" <sailw32@...> wrote:

Bill , That is why I asked, I thought it may present a problem . I suppose I could cap the end or keep it out of the tank and store it elsewhere. 
You may remember that I have been eating up my zincs faster than normal. You have said that the electric toilets are a source of electrical leak. Does that occur only when you run it ,have the switch on? Maybe I should email yo direct or put it a new thread.
Thanks,
Pat
SM Shenanigans


-----Original Message-----
From: CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Sent: Sat, Jul 24, 2021 2:59 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Fuel Stick

The reason you should not is that your SM tank is made of 316 stainless steel. You will get dissimilar metal corrosion where the stick touches the tank...worse case is that the corrosion will penetrate the tank.

The above is not true with later model tanks beginning with the 54 that are made of aluminum.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
 
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
 
View My Training Calendar


On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 1:55 PM Patrick McAneny via groups.io <sailw32= aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
I broke my plastic fuel stick , I am thinking about making one from aluminum bar stock. Is there any reason that would be a problem to use in the fuel tank ?
Thanks,
Pat
SM Shenanigans
 
 


Re: Fuel Stick

Patrick McAneny
 

Bill , That is why I asked, I thought it may present a problem . I suppose I could cap the end or keep it out of the tank and store it elsewhere. 
You may remember that I have been eating up my zincs faster than normal. You have said that the electric toilets are a source of electrical leak. Does that occur only when you run it ,have the switch on? Maybe I should email yo direct or put it a new thread.
Thanks,
Pat
SM Shenanigans


-----Original Message-----
From: CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Sent: Sat, Jul 24, 2021 2:59 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Fuel Stick

The reason you should not is that your SM tank is made of 316 stainless steel. You will get dissimilar metal corrosion where the stick touches the tank...worse case is that the corrosion will penetrate the tank.

The above is not true with later model tanks beginning with the 54 that are made of aluminum.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 1:55 PM Patrick McAneny via groups.io <sailw32=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
I broke my plastic fuel stick , I am thinking about making one from aluminum bar stock. Is there any reason that would be a problem to use in the fuel tank ?
Thanks,
Pat
SM Shenanigans


Re: Fuel Stick

 

The reason you should not is that your SM tank is made of 316 stainless steel. You will get dissimilar metal corrosion where the stick touches the tank...worse case is that the corrosion will penetrate the tank.

The above is not true with later model tanks beginning with the 54 that are made of aluminum.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 1:55 PM Patrick McAneny via groups.io <sailw32=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
I broke my plastic fuel stick , I am thinking about making one from aluminum bar stock. Is there any reason that would be a problem to use in the fuel tank ?
Thanks,
Pat
SM Shenanigans


Fuel Stick

Patrick McAneny
 

I broke my plastic fuel stick , I am thinking about making one from aluminum bar stock. Is there any reason that would be a problem to use in the fuel tank ?
Thanks,
Pat
SM Shenanigans


Re: Seacock for aft head

Patrick McAneny
 

Mark, I thought it may not be NPT,that is why I asked.
Thank You,
Pat
SM Shenanigan


-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Sent: Sat, Jul 24, 2021 1:42 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Seacock for aft head

Pat,
 
Not NPT.  It is 1 ¼” BSP
 
 
With best regards,
 
Mark
 
Skipper
Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275
Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia
www.creampuff.us
 
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Patrick McAneny via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2021 3:36 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Seacock for aft head
 
I need to replace my seacock in the aft head ,could someone confirm the size I need ,I believe it to be 1 1/4" NPT , but not sure and I want to purchase it prior to taking the old one out ,as my boat is in the water.
Thanks,
Pat
SM Shenanigans #123
Sassafras River, Md.


Re: There is a spring on the companionway locking bar

EricOpdeweegh
 

Hi Bob,

Thanks also to you for the suggestions and ideas. Really great, this forum, for these kind of issues 
I the mean time please know I used the springs as on DarNico which I visited earlier last year searching for my SM
It is simple and easy.
It works now fine with me too. Maybe an extra sliding lock pin on top later but for now will try this.
See also the message I send to DarNico with the photos

Far winds and safe sailing

Eric
sv Abayomi
SM 158
Rotterdam


Re: Seacock for aft head

Mark Erdos
 

Pat,

 

Not NPT.  It is 1 ¼” BSP

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Patrick McAneny via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2021 3:36 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Seacock for aft head

 

I need to replace my seacock in the aft head ,could someone confirm the size I need ,I believe it to be 1 1/4" NPT , but not sure and I want to purchase it prior to taking the old one out ,as my boat is in the water.
Thanks,
Pat
SM Shenanigans #123
Sassafras River, Md.


Re: There is a spring on the companionway locking bar

rossirossix4
 

I'm away from KAIMI so I cannot give you a photo but we have a rather large sliding bolt lock on the top inside corner of the companion way slide that was installed by the previous owner.  He also filled in the indentations with wood so the bar would not catch (but the spring idea to hold the bar out is a good idea)  The only time I tighten the black knobs is 1) when I am wanting to lock the door partially up, like when running in large seas or 2) when I leave the boat for an extended time--we also have the external stainless steel padlocks protection device and we use bolt cutter protected locks on those.

There are 2 grooves to fix the 90 bolt "handle" in the open or closed position.  BTW there is a similar massive bolt that allows you to bolt the rear stateroom door from the inside.

Anyway, I really like the bolt, it is strong, super quick, and you don't need to mess with cam locks, etc.  I will try to update this post in a month or two with a photo when I am aboard.

Bob, KAIMI SM429


Main hatch

Nicolas Klene
 

Eric 
I encourage you to try my system with the spring on the outside of the bar applying it against the frame !
it is very easy to open , just tilt the bottom of the bar out of the groove , and let it go down gently by gravity , with a little help retaining it .
To close it , raise it , and the springs will force it into the groove and hold it there !!
No need for any other locking mechanism , it suffise to it self , providing the tension of the spring is not too strong 
Kind regards 
Nicolas 

--
Nicolas Klene
DarNico
SM2K # 471
In Marseille


Seacock for aft head

Patrick McAneny
 

I need to replace my seacock in the aft head ,could someone confirm the size I need ,I believe it to be 1 1/4" NPT , but not sure and I want to purchase it prior to taking the old one out ,as my boat is in the water.
Thanks,
Pat
SM Shenanigans #123
Sassafras River, Md.


Re: D3-110 Starter Earthing Relay Part Number Request

Dominique Sery
 

Totally agree with you, the seawater pump is really badly placed
Dominique


Re: D3-110 Starter Earthing Relay Part Number Request

Dean Gillies
 

HI Dominique,
Thanks for confirming that.  My solenoid does not have this button, but it is definitely faulty. I shorted across the main terminals and the engine now cranks but does not run. It turns over very slowly and the battery is struggling to hold the voltage up. I am now charging the battery.

I will order a new solenoid, and clean up all the terminals. The water pump over the top of the alternator and this solenoid is not a great layout!

Best regards
Dean
SV Stella A54-154


Re: D3-110 Starter Earthing Relay Part Number Request

Dominique Sery
 

The solenoid under the 12 v alternator 


Re: D3-110 Starter Earthing Relay Part Number Request

Dominique Sery
 

Yes, fitted on a D3-110.
There is a rubber push button under the Valeo that you can hold pushing trying to start. 

The push button make a manual contact between both big wires. If your engine starts when you make a manual contact, the solenoid has a problem.
You can remove it and open it (remove the two small screws and after remove the plastic cap) You can adjust the contact (there is a nut between two springs).
I did that last week.
The solenoid is under the 12 v alternator
Dominique


Re: feathering props for a mango

Hank rose
 

Thanks Bill, yes I know that the max prop can lock be locked for a purpose like driving a shaft alternator. However when paying many $$$ I wondered if there were other experiences out there. And indeed Autoprop is more complicated in design, and a little more $$$.

Hehehe, I have asked two prop repair places for a welding repair job, and both answers were an empathetically "no".


Re: D3-110 Starter Earthing Relay Part Number Request

Dean Gillies
 

Thanks Dominique,
Is this fitted to a D3-110?  The one I have on #154 seems to be a Volvo part, but I just can't see the part number.
It would be nice to know that it fits directly on the D3-110.

I'm going to short it out with a strap later this morning and try to get the engine started that way.

Best regards
Dean
SV Stella
A54-154


Re: Cockpit door closing mechanism

EricOpdeweegh
 

Hi Arno,
I now see that I'm not the only one who is thinking about this system.
Great topic for the forum.
Thanks for your reply. Another possible solution:) 
Will let the options settle in and choose one.

Rgrds
Eric
sv Abayomi
SM 158
Rotterdam


Re: D3-110 Starter Earthing Relay Part Number Request

Dominique Sery
 

Hello Dean,
it’s a Valeo CEY 14 (c3212)
Dominique
Irko A54#16


Re: Cockpit door closing mechanism

Arno Luijten
 

Hi Eric,

I made a modification earlier this year and so far I’m very happy with the result. I’m pretty sure the same could be done on a SM.

https://amelyachtowners.groups.io/g/main/topic/82934896#58652

Kind regards,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121

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