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Re: Onan code 3 subcode 4-1
tony wells
Hi Jeff In my experience, Ioannis is a solid all-round engineer who may be able to help you, at Kalamata Marina. You can reach him on +30 693 2662481. Good luck and enjoy the fabulous Peloponnese! Tony Previously an A54 owner
On 29 Jul 2021, at 18:51, Jeff Williams <jeff99williams@...> wrote:
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Re: Rocna 33 anchor- does it fits without modification on Super Maramu 2000
Hi Slavko, as others have already said, I am also convinced that a 33 kg anchor is too light for a Super Maramu. Besides the design of an anchor, the weight is essential. The Bügel anchor and the Rocna anchor are very similar in design. The performance will not differ significantly.
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Re: Engine overheating - Amel54
One thing to keep in mind is to make sure that any growth or pieces of shells are cleaned away and do not remain inside the sea chest. I did not do that once and they migrated to the engine heat exchanger suddenly clogging it completely!! It was so bad that the pressure in the pipe increased to the point of blowing out one of the hoses and triggering an alarm. This happened in the worse moment as I was leaving an anchorage in Union Island through a narrow channel between two reefs. My good Ultra anchor was rapidly deployed and saved the day.
Jose Venegas Ipanema SM278 Currently in Turtle bay marina, Panama
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Onan code 3 subcode 4-1
Jeff Williams
Hi All,
My Onan is acting up. Can anyone recommend a good Onan guy? I'm near Pilos on the west side of the Peloponnise in Greece. I will head to Athens if I need to but would prefer to fix it sooner if possible. Thanks! Jeff s/v Spruzzo SM#379
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Re: Onan Generator Exhaust thru hull
Bill Kinney
Ritchie,
When Amel designed their boats they had a number of criteria. First (second and third!) it had to be robust and safe. Fourth, it had to be easy to build. Somewhere further down the list was the ease of long term maintenance. One of the examples of this is the glueing in exhaust hoses. Of course all rubber hoses have a finite life, and need to be replaced--eventually. The Amel design is a great system, right up until it is time to replace the hose... I don't have the specifics of the design of the generator exhaust hose attachment to the hull, I suspect a search through the archives will find some information, although I think most discussions have centered more on the engine exhaust which is more complex. Like here: #19663 If you end up adding a thru-hull fitting because rebuilding the original system is too complex, use a bronze fitting, be sure it is attached to the bonding system, and use a flush mounted fitting so nothing protrudes from the hull. Bill Kinney SM160, Harmonie Brunswick, GA
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Onan Generator Exhaust thru hull
Richie Whyte
Hi All
I am in the middle of a mini refit and I’d like to check something with those of you that know better. My Onan generator exhaust seems to flow into a reinforced rubber hose and from that it eventually goes out through the hole in the side of the boat. This hose is siliconed in place. The silicone is perished and the whole setup feels like a forgotten running repair to me - there is no proper thruhull as can be seen from the pic. Is this as it should be and if not do you know what should be here instead? Many thanks Richie Richie Whyte Why Knot (formerly GUMA) SM2K#261 On the hard, Kos Marina Kos, Greece 
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Re: Intermittent starting issue
Patrick McAneny
Eric, I have a Volvo TMD22A , the engine itself has been great , it generally starts the second I turn the key.
Thanks,
Pat
SM Shenanigans
-----Original Message-----
From: eric freedman <kimberlite@...> To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Sent: Wed, Jul 28, 2021 6:03 pm Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Intermittent starting issue Hi Pat,
What engine do you have?
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io On Behalf Of Patrick McAneny via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2021 8:27 AM To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Intermittent starting issue Eric , I agree there are many connections ,contact points and faults in wiring ,any one of which could be responsible for a starting problem. I also occasionally have an issue , where the engine does not shut down when I turn the key. I wish I better understood the electrical system , its a bit complex for me to trouble shoot sometimes. If it were possible to find a competent mechanic nearby ,I would gladly hire him for a day to assess my systems.
Pat
SM Shenanigans
-----Original Message-----
From: eric freedman <kimberlite@...> To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Sent: Wed, Jul 28, 2021 4:08 am Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Intermittent starting issue There are a umber of things that can cause intermittent starting issues. The Valeo solenoid requires a lot of current to close it.
One ghost I found was behind the panel on my Yanmar. For some reason Amel installed a butt connector in the start wiring circuit. When you turn the key, everything works and the Valeo solenoid tries to close. After removing the butt connector and soldering the wires that issue went away. There are a lot of goblins in the starting circuit.
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io On Behalf Of Bill Kinney
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2021 10:23 AM To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Intermittent starting issue Pat,
Intermittent failures can be such… fun. If I understand correctly, when you have this issue with starting, the blowers do not run as well. That narrows down the likely causes quite a bit. The key switch, or the wiring around it would be my prime suspect, although it could be other things too. 12V power comes from the engine, up to the key switch. When the switch is “ON” the power is sent back to the engine, and to the relays that turn on the blowers. If the blowers and the starter are showing common failure, then the fault must be before the wires divide on the positive side, or maybe after they come together on the negative side back to the battery. Another place to look is the isolating relay in the ground wire. If that is intermittent in operation, or has bad contacts, to could interrupt the circuit on the return side. I think this is unlikely, because the blower negative return is connected on the battery side of this. Other than those two, its a matter of pulling and cleaning connections to be sure contact is good. Key switches on both Volvo and Yanmar panels are not 100% waterproof, maybe a bit less so with the key left in. A drop or two of salt water inside, and things can get unreliable. I have never disassembled one to clean it, although I have replaced them. Bill Kinney SM Harmonie Brunswick, GA, USA
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Re: Rocna 33 anchor- does it fits without modification on Super Maramu 2000
Mike Longcor (SV Trilogy)
Hi Slavko, We use the 40kg (88lb) Rocna on our 1990 SM#23. It's a great anchor that has never let us down and fits well on our bow roller. We use with 3/8" G4 chain and no swivel. My advice is the same as others have already said, go bigger, go for the 40kg. I helped fit the 40kg on another Super Maramu (PITU) earlier this year. It fit well. I don't recall the hull number but PITU's bow roller was different than ours. We've been on anchor in Opua, NZ since January 2020. The only issue we've had is other yachts dragging into us during strong easterly storms. We also rode out cyclone Sarai at Big Mama's Yacht Club while in Tonga. Sustained 65kts, gusts over 70kts, our 88lb Rocna didn't budge. This included a 180deg reversal in wind direction as the Low center passed right over us. We did have a second anchor out (65lb CQR) taking some of the strain and reducing veer, but the Rocna was doing the primary holding. A good test and confidence builder that I'm in no rush to repeat :-) We've used the 40kg Rocna since leaving New England in 2017. We spend the vast majority of our time on anchor. The Rocna got us all the way to NZ and continues to hold strong. Long story short... I highly recommend this anchor. Cheers, Mike Longcor SV Trilogy SM#23 Opua, NZ
On Tue, Jul 27, 2021, 1:16 AM Slavko Despotovic <slavko@...> wrote:
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Re: Intermittent starting issue
eric freedman <kimberlite@...>
Hi Pat, What engine do you have? Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io On Behalf Of Patrick McAneny via groups.io
Eric , I agree there are many connections ,contact points and faults in wiring ,any one of which could be responsible for a starting problem. I also occasionally have an issue , where the engine does not shut down when I turn the key. I wish I better understood the electrical system , its a bit complex for me to trouble shoot sometimes. If it were possible to find a competent mechanic nearby ,I would gladly hire him for a day to assess my systems. Pat SM Shenanigans -----Original Message----- There are a umber of things that can cause intermittent starting issues. The Valeo solenoid requires a lot of current to close it.
One ghost I found was behind the panel on my Yanmar. For some reason Amel installed a butt connector in the start wiring circuit. When you turn the key, everything works and the Valeo solenoid tries to close. After removing the butt connector and soldering the wires that issue went away. There are a lot of goblins in the starting circuit. Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io On Behalf Of Bill Kinney
Pat,
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Re: Engine overheating - Amel54
On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 2:01 PM Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:
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Re: Engine overheating - Amel54
Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Hi David, you can check/clean the sea chest inlet in the water. Take the top off, have a rod/tube of suitable diameter and length ready. Turn the seacock on and run the rod up and down. Takes a few seconds, turn the seacock off. Water does flow in but in the time you have it open it is not a problem. Shell fish like oysters and mussels love to grow in the tube. Regards Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl
On 29 July 2021 at 01:22 David Crisp <david@...> wrote:
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Re: Engine overheating - Amel54
Ulrich Michael Dangelmeyer
Yes Dimitris And once per season at least you should shallow your circuit with 5 litres of white vinegar over Night... that bursts the dirt off next morning, promised! Ulrich Michael „Soleil Bleu“ A54#088 Leros Greece.
Am 28.07.2021 um 21:30 schrieb Dimitris Krasopoulos <dkrasopoulos@...>:
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Re: Engine overheating - Amel54
I had the same the main problem is the sea water cooled refrigerators they circulate all the time through the sea chest and clog all the systems. This is a difficult problem which can be sold by the fresh water tank circulation for cooling the compressors if the refrigerators.
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Στάλθηκε από το iPhone of Dimitris Krasopoulos Alma Libre Too AMEL 54
On Jul 28, 2021, at 5:38 PM, Randall Walker <sailingalbedo@...> wrote:
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Re: Engine overheating - Amel54
Randall Walker
David, Does your sea chest look like this picture. I was in Gib and the hull was very clean with no scrapping required. But after just a few months this happened. And it can migrate through the whole cooling system. I have started doing regular flushing with mild hydrochloric solution, similar to Barnacle buster. Yes I was shocked how quickly it formed.” Randall A54#56 
On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 09:22 David Crisp <david@...> wrote: All,
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Re: Engine overheating - Amel54
David Crisp
All,
The problem turned out to be the transmission oil cooler which was 3/4 blocked. The gurgling has stopped - I'm pretty sure this was the exhaust anti-syphon pipe sucking in air because of the upstream blockage. Thanks for all the advice, really grateful. Interestingly, now sea water can flow at full rate, when I rev the engine to over 2,000 to engage the alternator the sea chest alarm sounds, so at least I know that works! I'm hauling out next week and will give the sea chest inlet a thorough check and clean out. -- David Crisp SV Wilna Grace Amel 54 #58
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Re: Fuel Stick
My dip stick is made of monel. You could use a similar non-metalic substance. Aras Sharki #163 1988
I broke my plastic fuel stick , I am thinking about making one from aluminum bar stock. Is there any reason that would be a problem to use in the fuel tank ? -- Aras Grinius
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Re: Intermittent starting issue
Patrick McAneny
Eric , I agree there are many connections ,contact points and faults in wiring ,any one of which could be responsible for a starting problem. I also occasionally have an issue , where the engine does not shut down when I turn the key. I wish I better understood the electrical system , its a bit complex for me to trouble shoot sometimes. If it were possible to find a competent mechanic nearby ,I would gladly hire him for a day to assess my systems.
Pat
SM Shenanigans
-----Original Message-----
From: eric freedman <kimberlite@...> To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Sent: Wed, Jul 28, 2021 4:08 am Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Intermittent starting issue There are a umber of things that can cause intermittent starting issues. The Valeo solenoid requires a lot of current to close it.
One ghost I found was behind the panel on my Yanmar. For some reason Amel installed a butt connector in the start wiring circuit. When you turn the key, everything works and the Valeo solenoid tries to close. After removing the butt connector and soldering the wires that issue went away. There are a lot of goblins in the starting circuit.
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io On Behalf Of Bill Kinney
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2021 10:23 AM To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Intermittent starting issue Pat,
Intermittent failures can be such… fun. If I understand correctly, when you have this issue with starting, the blowers do not run as well. That narrows down the likely causes quite a bit. The key switch, or the wiring around it would be my prime suspect, although it could be other things too. 12V power comes from the engine, up to the key switch. When the switch is “ON” the power is sent back to the engine, and to the relays that turn on the blowers. If the blowers and the starter are showing common failure, then the fault must be before the wires divide on the positive side, or maybe after they come together on the negative side back to the battery. Another place to look is the isolating relay in the ground wire. If that is intermittent in operation, or has bad contacts, to could interrupt the circuit on the return side. I think this is unlikely, because the blower negative return is connected on the battery side of this. Other than those two, its a matter of pulling and cleaning connections to be sure contact is good. Key switches on both Volvo and Yanmar panels are not 100% waterproof, maybe a bit less so with the key left in. A drop or two of salt water inside, and things can get unreliable. I have never disassembled one to clean it, although I have replaced them. Bill Kinney SM Harmonie Brunswick, GA, USA
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Re: Intermittent starting issue
eric freedman <kimberlite@...>
There are a umber of things that can cause intermittent starting issues. The Valeo solenoid requires a lot of current to close it.
One ghost I found was behind the panel on my Yanmar. For some reason Amel installed a butt connector in the start wiring circuit. When you turn the key, everything works and the Valeo solenoid tries to close. After removing the butt connector and soldering the wires that issue went away. There are a lot of goblins in the starting circuit. Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io On Behalf Of Bill Kinney
Pat,
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Re: Rocna 33 anchor- does it fits without modification on Super Maramu 2000
Patrick McAneny
MY Rocna 33 held my boat and a 47 ft. Cat that drug into us at 4 am . in Guadeloupe ,his anchor slid up my chain and stopped at the bow . The Rocna held us both for an hour in 30 Kts. before finally breaking free. I was impressed , but I would probably go for the 40 ,just for a added margin of safety.
Good Luck,
Pat
SM Shenanigans
-----Original Message-----
From: Dominique Sery via groups.io <dominiquesery@...> To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Sent: Tue, Jul 27, 2021 10:17 am Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Rocna 33 anchor- does it fits without modification on Super Maramu 2000 Hello, after having had some inconvenience with the original 30 kg Wasi anchor (I have skidded several times although i put a lot of chain), I chose to use a 55 kg Rocna anchor. It may seem too big but for 3 years now the anchor has never loosened even with 50 knots winds. It fits perfectly into the bow roller of the Amel 54 which is the same as that of the latest Supermaramu, i think.
When the wind blows strong at anchor, it is safe to have an oversized anchor that will not fail. You sleep better at night. Dominique Irko A54-16
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Re: Rocna 33 anchor- does it fits without modification on Super Maramu 2000
Dominique Sery
Hello, after having had some inconvenience with the original 30 kg Wasi anchor (I have skidded several times although i put a lot of chain), I chose to use a 55 kg Rocna anchor. It may seem too big but for 3 years now the anchor has never loosened even with 50 knots winds. It fits perfectly into the bow roller of the Amel 54 which is the same as that of the latest Supermaramu, i think.
When the wind blows strong at anchor, it is safe to have an oversized anchor that will not fail. You sleep better at night. Dominique Irko A54-16
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