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Maramu sail plan

Lance Leonard
 

I am the owner of Maramu #135 (Minerva). We are currently sailing North to Maine from North Carolina. My boat came with a removable Solent stay and a removable stay on the mizzenmast. It is for downwind use only as it’s attachments pintos just forward of the dodger in the area swept by the Main boom. My question is, what sort of sail would I fly there? A mizzen staysail seems to have a different configuration with no stay required.
Re: Turbo Model Nr. Of Yanmar 4JH3-HTE

Donato Valente
 

Many thanks Bill, kind as usual. 
Donato 

Il giorno lun 2 ago 2021 alle 16:15 CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> ha scritto:
The turbo might be different between the 75hp qnd 100hp. I am not sure. 
It is always best to check with a Yanmar dealer using your complete model number and serial number. Example: [Model 4JH3-HTE, Sn# E21642]

Assuming that you have the 4JH3, the following is a link to pages from a Yanmar Parts Catalog:

 Turbo for Yanmar 4JH3.pdf
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar

On Mon, Aug 2, 2021 at 6:30 AM Donato Valente <ing.d.valente@...> wrote:



Hi
does someone can tell me the model nr. Of the turbo equipped on Yanmar as below on a SM2000 red line #468 of 2004 ? 

Appreciated your help

Many thanks

Donato 
SM2000 #468 OCEAN BIRD
now in Taranto, Italy
Re: Turbo Model Nr. Of Yanmar 4JH3-HTE

CW Bill Rouse
 

The turbo might be different between the 75hp qnd 100hp. I am not sure. 
It is always best to check with a Yanmar dealer using your complete model number and serial number. Example: [Model 4JH3-HTE, Sn# E21642]

Assuming that you have the 4JH3, the following is a link to pages from a Yanmar Parts Catalog:

 Turbo for Yanmar 4JH3.pdf
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar

On Mon, Aug 2, 2021 at 6:30 AM Donato Valente <ing.d.valente@...> wrote:



Hi
does someone can tell me the model nr. Of the turbo equipped on Yanmar as below on a SM2000 red line #468 of 2004 ? 

Appreciated your help

Many thanks

Donato 
SM2000 #468 OCEAN BIRD
now in Taranto, Italy
Re: Onan code 3 subcode 4-1

Giovanni TESTA
 

Hi to all, many thanks for Kalamata Marina infos
 Let us see, may be a good alternative of my last winter at Cleopatra Marina Preveza
Buon Vento
Giovanni
Eutikia SM2K 428
Milos

Il Ven 30 Lug 2021, 20:17 Peter Forbes <ppsforbes@...> ha scritto:
What utter bliss a year on an Amel in Kalamata - that is what Amels are all about.

Brilliant and totally inspiring.

Peter

Peter Forbes
Carango Amel 54 #035
La Rochelle - shortly bound for Lymington UK.
00447836 209730


> On 30 Jul 2021, at 18:12, Rink De Haan <rinkdehaan@...> wrote:
>
> Welcome Giovanni and hi Elja
>
> We arrived yesterday in Kalamata and will stay at least a year in the marina in the water.
> First impressions very good, nice town and a wonderful part of Greece.
>
> Best
> Rink & Marloes
> SY Razors Edge
> SM2K #330
>
> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone
>
>> Op 30 jul. 2021 om 19:49 heeft Elja Röllinghoff Balu SM 222 <Bijorka@...> het volgende geschreven:
>>
>> He Giovanni
>> In Kalamata you can go an the Haed
>> We stay hire sinsce 5 yaers two times on the Hard
>>
>> See you Elja
>> SM Balu 222
>> Kalamata
>>
>> Von meinem iPhone gesendet
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Turbo Model Nr. Of Yanmar 4JH3-HTE

Donato Valente
 




Hi
does someone can tell me the model nr. Of the turbo equipped on Yanmar as below on a SM2000 red line #468 of 2004 ? 

Appreciated your help

Many thanks

Donato 
SM2000 #468 OCEAN BIRD
now in Taranto, Italy
Re: Refrigeration guy in Volos Greece

Nick Newington
 

Thanks Vladan. When we go round tjj oh Scopelos town I will ask him.
Nick

On 2 Aug 2021, at 13:03, Vladan SV PAME <vladan.bojic@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Nick,

Find Nikos from boat No Stress. He's running day charter boat moored in
front of Baramares Caffe. If he's not currently there he will be later in
the afternoon.

He will be able to give you contact in Volos. I it will be difficult to find
someone on Skopelos to fix fridge.

Give Nikos my regards.

Best Regards,

Vladan
S.V. Pame
A54 #157


-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of ngtnewington Newington via groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2021 11:48
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Refrigeration guy in Volos Greece

Hello fellow Amel owners,

We are in Skopelos Greece. The front opening fridge has packed up.
Fortunately we have the deep freeze and the chest fridge and can manage well
despite 7 aboard.
I am pretty sure that there is a leak of refrigerant as the unit gradually
failed. All I need to do is find the leak and have it soldered, vacuum the
system and recharge. In order to do this I need a competent fridge guy.
Does anyone know of someone in the city of Volos where we will go in a weeks
time, or Skiathos, Skopelos who they can recommend?

Kind regards
Nick Newington
SY Amelia
AML 54-019
Skopelos, where there is no wind and it is hot but the beer is still cold.








--
Vladan

A54 #157
SV PAME
Re: Refrigeration guy in Volos Greece

Vladan SV PAME
 

Hi Nick,

Find Nikos from boat No Stress. He's running day charter boat moored in
front of Baramares Caffe. If he's not currently there he will be later in
the afternoon.

He will be able to give you contact in Volos. I it will be difficult to find
someone on Skopelos to fix fridge.

Give Nikos my regards.

Best Regards,

Vladan
S.V. Pame
A54 #157

-----Original Message-----
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On
Behalf Of ngtnewington Newington via groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2021 11:48
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Refrigeration guy in Volos Greece

Hello fellow Amel owners,

We are in Skopelos Greece. The front opening fridge has packed up.
Fortunately we have the deep freeze and the chest fridge and can manage well
despite 7 aboard.
I am pretty sure that there is a leak of refrigerant as the unit gradually
failed. All I need to do is find the leak and have it soldered, vacuum the
system and recharge. In order to do this I need a competent fridge guy.
Does anyone know of someone in the city of Volos where we will go in a weeks
time, or Skiathos, Skopelos who they can recommend?

Kind regards
Nick Newington
SY Amelia
AML 54-019
Skopelos, where there is no wind and it is hot but the beer is still cold.








--
Vladan

A54 #157
SV PAME
Refrigeration guy in Volos Greece

Nick Newington
 

Hello fellow Amel owners,

We are in Skopelos Greece. The front opening fridge has packed up. Fortunately we have the deep freeze and the chest fridge and can manage well despite 7 aboard.
I am pretty sure that there is a leak of refrigerant as the unit gradually failed. All I need to do is find the leak and have it soldered, vacuum the system and recharge. In order to do this I need a competent fridge guy.
Does anyone know of someone in the city of Volos where we will go in a weeks time, or Skiathos, Skopelos who they can recommend?

Kind regards
Nick Newington
SY Amelia
AML 54-019
Skopelos, where there is no wind and it is hot but the beer is still cold.
Re: Onan Generator Exhaust thru hull

eric freedman <kimberlite@...>
 

HI,

Amel suggested removing all the old sealant and replacing it with 4200. So far 6 years no problems.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io On Behalf Of Richie Whyte
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2021 8:44 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Onan Generator Exhaust thru hull

 

Hi All
I am in the middle of a mini refit and I’d like to check something with those of you that know better. My Onan generator exhaust seems to flow into a reinforced rubber hose and from that it eventually goes out through the hole in the side of the boat. This hose is siliconed in place. The silicone is perished and the whole setup feels like a forgotten running repair to me - there is no proper thruhull as can be seen from the pic. Is this as it should be and if not do you know what should be here instead?
Many thanks

Richie

Richie Whyte
Why Knot (formerly GUMA)
SM2K#261
On the hard, Kos Marina
Kos, Greece
Re: Diesel heater install

Darren Moore
 

Thanks Randall,

I have seen that episode, hydronic may be an easier option, much smaller hoses to get around.

Kind regards

Darren


On Sat, 31 Jul 2021, 12:07 Randall Walker, <sailingalbedo@...> wrote:
I recall Delos did a water heater install. They started in the Bahamas I think and finished the install stateside. Drilled manny holes though. Not something I would want but looked warm, for colder climates.
But there’s an avenue to head down.

Randall
A54#56

On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 18:11 Darren Moore <dmjetstar@...> wrote:
Good morning Eric and Bill,

Thank you for you comments, we still at the thinking stage at the moment which prompted my asking questions here,

I'm not convinced yet of which way to go, I like air for simplicity, I dislike hydronic because its power hungry with the circulation pump and fans (but does have better temperature control)

I was thinking with either system that I'd run the pipes through bulkheads well above the water line to protect the integrity.

I'd like to know if anyone had done the install and had pictures, I'll investigate also if TW3 has any obvious signs of the path that the fresh air system might have used.

Thank you both for your advice
--
Darren & Karen
SM171
Tradewinds III
Tasmania, Australia


--
Darren & Karen
SM171
Tradewinds III
Tasmania, Australia
Re: Diesel heater install

Randall Walker
 

I recall Delos did a water heater install. They started in the Bahamas I think and finished the install stateside. Drilled manny holes though. Not something I would want but looked warm, for colder climates.
But there’s an avenue to head down.

Randall
A54#56

On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 18:11 Darren Moore <dmjetstar@...> wrote:
Good morning Eric and Bill,

Thank you for you comments, we still at the thinking stage at the moment which prompted my asking questions here,

I'm not convinced yet of which way to go, I like air for simplicity, I dislike hydronic because its power hungry with the circulation pump and fans (but does have better temperature control)

I was thinking with either system that I'd run the pipes through bulkheads well above the water line to protect the integrity.

I'd like to know if anyone had done the install and had pictures, I'll investigate also if TW3 has any obvious signs of the path that the fresh air system might have used.

Thank you both for your advice
--
Darren & Karen
SM171
Tradewinds III
Tasmania, Australia

Re: Is this a standard addition?

Darren Moore
 

Hi Bill and Eric,

We have another transducer in a normal thruhull in the location you mentioned as well which I suspect may be a depth unit,

I'm wondering if the one shown in the photo is a depth transducer mounted in contact with the hull rather than through the hull, (don't want to unscrew anything whilst in water)

I guess I'll have to wait until our next haul out or until the water temperature is well above its current 11 degrees to jump in a see from underneath

Thanks for your help
--
Darren & Karen
SM171
Tradewinds III
Tasmania, Australia
Re: Diesel heater install

Darren Moore
 

Good morning Eric and Bill,

Thank you for you comments, we still at the thinking stage at the moment which prompted my asking questions here,

I'm not convinced yet of which way to go, I like air for simplicity, I dislike hydronic because its power hungry with the circulation pump and fans (but does have better temperature control)

I was thinking with either system that I'd run the pipes through bulkheads well above the water line to protect the integrity.

I'd like to know if anyone had done the install and had pictures, I'll investigate also if TW3 has any obvious signs of the path that the fresh air system might have used.

Thank you both for your advice
--
Darren & Karen
SM171
Tradewinds III
Tasmania, Australia
Re: Onan Generator Exhaust thru hull

eric freedman <kimberlite@...>
 

Amel recommended 4200 and not silicone for this job.

Fair Winds’

ERIC

Kimberlite Amel SM 376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richie Whyte
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2021 8:28 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Onan Generator Exhaust thru hull

 

Hi Bill
Thank you for your reply and for allaying my fears. Your Amel criteria point is well taken. I went through the engine exhaust posts and unless I’m mistaken the preferred solution is to replace like with like..excavate the silicone out, replace the hose if needs be and reconstruct the silicone bung that the hose passes through.
Your suggestion would be the direction I would naturally lean towards however and inclined as I am to keep the boat as Amel as possible I suspect my marine contractor will agree…but we’ll see next week.

Many thanks for your help


Richie

Richie Whyte
Why Knot (formerly GUMA)
SM2K#261
On the hard, Kos Marina
Kos, Greece
Re: Diesel heater install

eric freedman <kimberlite@...>
 

Hi,

I suggested a hot water system -hydronic- not a fresh air.

If you go with the hot air system, there are ways to make the bulkheads watertight. That arrangement came with Kimberlite when I added the fresh air system later converted to hot air.

Fair Winds

ERIC

Kimberlite Amel SM 376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill Kinney
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2021 8:19 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Diesel heater install

 

Darren and Karen,

Running ductwork through a Super Maramu is a very tough task if you are not going to compromise the watertight bulkheads.  Because the watertight compartment design is one of the things about an Amel that is special, destroying it will compromise the value of the boat both to you and to any knowledgeable later purchaser.  

Not saying it can NOT be done, but some skilled engineering and shipwright’s skills will be needed.  Your best bet would be to tour an Amel installation or have someone with a boat where Amel installed the heater to send you LOTS of pictures.  Or as Eric suggests, the Amel “fresh air” system would also be a good model to use.

I am not sure what hull number these options were first offered, but I know that there were factory modifications to the design that made the install easier on later boats.

Good luck!  And stay warm!

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Brunswick, GA (where staying warm right now is NOT a problem!)
Re: Onan code 3 subcode 4-1

Peter Forbes
 

What utter bliss a year on an Amel in Kalamata - that is what Amels are all about.

Brilliant and totally inspiring.

Peter

Peter Forbes
Carango Amel 54 #035
La Rochelle - shortly bound for Lymington UK.
00447836 209730

On 30 Jul 2021, at 18:12, Rink De Haan <rinkdehaan@gmail.com> wrote:

Welcome Giovanni and hi Elja

We arrived yesterday in Kalamata and will stay at least a year in the marina in the water.
First impressions very good, nice town and a wonderful part of Greece.

Best
Rink & Marloes
SY Razors Edge
SM2K #330

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone

Op 30 jul. 2021 om 19:49 heeft Elja Röllinghoff Balu SM 222 <Bijorka@gmx.de> het volgende geschreven:

He Giovanni
In Kalamata you can go an the Haed
We stay hire sinsce 5 yaers two times on the Hard

See you Elja
SM Balu 222
Kalamata

Von meinem iPhone gesendet
Re: Onan code 3 subcode 4-1

Rink De Haan
 

Welcome Giovanni and hi Elja

We arrived yesterday in Kalamata and will stay at least a year in the marina in the water.
First impressions very good, nice town and a wonderful part of Greece.

Best
Rink & Marloes
SY Razors Edge
SM2K #330

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone

Op 30 jul. 2021 om 19:49 heeft Elja Röllinghoff Balu SM 222 <Bijorka@gmx.de> het volgende geschreven:

He Giovanni
In Kalamata you can go an the Haed
We stay hire sinsce 5 yaers two times on the Hard

See you Elja
SM Balu 222
Kalamata

Von meinem iPhone gesendet
Re: Onan code 3 subcode 4-1

Elja Röllinghoff Balu SM 222
 

He Giovanni
In Kalamata you can go an the Haed
We stay hire sinsce 5 yaers two times on the Hard

See you Elja
SM Balu 222
Kalamata

Von meinem iPhone gesendet
Re: Onan Generator Exhaust thru hull

Ron Hynes
 

For what it’s worth, I have a 1976 Amel Meltem and the generator and engine exhaust are combined into a fiberglass “Y” that is fiberglassed into the hull and exits on the port side just above the waterline. I am in the process of re-powering and the new turbo charged Diesel requires a 3 inch exhaust. Since I no longer have a generator, I plan to cut out the “Y” and glass in a new 3 inch tube. I like the idea of a flap on the exhaust to prevent backflushing sea water into the engine and may employ this. The former owner destroyed  two engines when sea water entered the engine from following seas, once across the Pacific and then again across the Indian Ocean before putting in a ball valve. I never liked the ball valve since it reduced a minimally sized exhaust by about 30%. Probably explains why I am on my third lift muffler due to excessive pressure caused by the restriction of the undersized exhaust.

Ron Hynes
954.319.0944

On Jul 30, 2021, at 11:57 AM, Ruslan Osmonov <rosmonov@...> wrote:

Hi Richie, 
I think Amel did it on purpose. Hot salt water will corrode metal pretty fast and if you go with metal you it will become constant maintenance/replacement issue. 
after all it served you for more than 20 years 🙂 without much maintenance on your side. 
I would look into either doing the same, or look at what Amel did later with 54s as they added a flap to prevent back flow (per my understanding). 
Another option to look into things like marelon or other non corrosive seacocks, that can deal with heat.

Regards, 
Ruslan. 
(in search of one)

Re: Onan Generator Exhaust thru hull

Ruslan Osmonov
 
Edited

Hi Richie, 
I think Amel did it on purpose. Hot salt water will corrode metal pretty fast and if you go with metal it will become constant maintenance/replacement issue. 
after all it served you for more than 20 years 🙂 without much maintenance on your side. 
I would look into either doing the same, or look at what Amel did later with 54s as they added a flap to prevent back flow (per my understanding). 
Another option to look into things like marelon or other non corrosive seacocks, that can deal with heat.

Regards, 
Ruslan. 
(in search of one)
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