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Re: Zinc Anodes

Patrick McAneny
 

Rick, I just drill out the hole a little to fit the bolt. Do you have a VolvoTMD 22A by any chance. I live 30 miles north of Rock Hall on the Sassafras River and need to look at another engine , to see how the fuel shut off is wired. The previous owner wired it incorrectly I just discovered, and need to see how it should be wired.
Thanks,
Pat
SM Shenanigans
Sassafras River, Md.


-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Stanley <rstanley907@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Sent: Thu, Aug 5, 2021 7:36 am
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Zinc Anodes

Hey Folks,

Wondering if anyone has a good source for metric anodes on the US easr coast. The ones I'm replacing have a 10mm threaded brass sheath in the middle to take the bolt. Any ideas? I've called abound a bit, no luck so far.

Thanks,
Rick Stanley
S/V Althea, SM2K
Rock Hall, MD


Re: Zinc Anodes

amelforme
 

Hi Rick. Most of my clients buy the inch sized zincs without the copper insert ( easy to find ) and ream or drill the hole slightly larger to accept the somewhat larger metric fastener. I did this on all three Amel boats I owned with excellent results. Metric zincs are hard to find in CONUS and the ones I did find in Annapolis were three times as expensive.

 

Hope this helps.

 

All the best,

Joel

 

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From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Stanley
Sent: Thursday, August 5, 2021 7:37 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Zinc Anodes

 

Hey Folks,

Wondering if anyone has a good source for metric anodes on the US easr coast. The ones I'm replacing have a 10mm threaded brass sheath in the middle to take the bolt. Any ideas? I've called abound a bit, no luck so far.

Thanks,
Rick Stanley
S/V Althea, SM2K
Rock Hall, MD


Re: Zinc Anodes

Thomas Peacock
 

Hi Rick,

I’m assuming you are talking about the anodes on the rudder. We have used similar sized US anodes, widely available, and just drill the center a little bit so that the bolt will go through. I don’t think having the threads is critical. 

Where in Rock Hall are you? We base at North Point.

Tom Peacock
SM 240 Aletes
Chesapeake Bay

On Aug 5, 2021, at 7:36 AM, Rick Stanley <rstanley907@...> wrote:

Hey Folks,

Wondering if anyone has a good source for metric anodes on the US easr coast. The ones I'm replacing have a 10mm threaded brass sheath in the middle to take the bolt. Any ideas? I've called abound a bit, no luck so far.

Thanks,
Rick Stanley
S/V Althea, SM2K
Rock Hall, MD


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SM 240 Aletes
Chesapeake Bay


Re: Battery Switches

Patrick McAneny
 

Eric ,In trying to track down my issue I have done that and the voltage was the same. When the engine will not start,if I switch the switch on and off several times ,often the engine will then start. Thus I believe the contacts inside the switch are either worn or corroded. But I have not forgotten what you said, and will look at the condition of the wires.
Thanks,
Pat
SM Shenanigans


-----Original Message-----
From: eric freedman <kimberlite@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Sent: Wed, Aug 4, 2021 11:47 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Battery Switches

Hi Pat,
Just for laughs.
Test the voltage between the lead posts on the starter battery and the connections at the back of the switch.
I found that the cables were internally corroded as Amel uses welding cable and not tinned marine wire, Once I changed the cables the engine started very quickly,
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
 
 
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io On Behalf Of Patrick McAneny via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2021 12:01 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Battery Switches
 
Paul, I just went out to the boat and it took a hard pull or two ,but the handle did come off. Did you access the inside to clean the contacts,if so ,was there any problem getting the back off. It won't come as a surprise to you , Georgetown Marina went into foreclosure last year due to poor management.
Thanks for the tip,
Pat
SM Shenanigans
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Osterberg <osterberg.paul.l@...>
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Sent: Wed, Aug 4, 2021 8:33 am
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Battery Switches
The handle on my switch is just to pill off just friction holding it in place.
Paul on SY Kerpa SM # 259; Las Palmas


Zinc Anodes

Rick Stanley
 

Hey Folks,

Wondering if anyone has a good source for metric anodes on the US easr coast. The ones I'm replacing have a 10mm threaded brass sheath in the middle to take the bolt. Any ideas? I've called abound a bit, no luck so far.

Thanks,
Rick Stanley
S/V Althea, SM2K
Rock Hall, MD


Re: Refrigeration guy in Volos Greece

Nick Newington
 

Hi Arno,
You may be right but a couple of years ago the chest galley fridge had a  refrigerant leak and it turned out to just need a joint soldering right by the compressor.
So fingers crossed.
Nick
Amelia
AML54-019


On 2 Aug 2021, at 21:03, Arno Luijten <arno.luijten@...> wrote:

Hi,

I don't want to kill off your optimism but the leak may be a bit less easy to fix. In my case the leak was in the heat-exchanger on the compressor. What happened is the sea-water corroded trough the tube-wall that separates the water from the cooling-gas allowing the gas to escape via the seawater-route.
In my case the solution was to replace the compressor as the heat-exchanger is not supplied alone.
While at it make sure the compressor/heat-exchanger is well connected to the earth bonding system as this protects the system from corroding even faster.

Kind regards,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121


Re: Battery Switches

eric freedman <kimberlite@...>
 

Hi Pat,

Just for laughs.

Test the voltage between the lead posts on the starter battery and the connections at the back of the switch.

I found that the cables were internally corroded as Amel uses welding cable and not tinned marine wire, Once I changed the cables the engine started very quickly,

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io On Behalf Of Patrick McAneny via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2021 12:01 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Battery Switches

 

Paul, I just went out to the boat and it took a hard pull or two ,but the handle did come off. Did you access the inside to clean the contacts,if so ,was there any problem getting the back off. It won't come as a surprise to you , Georgetown Marina went into foreclosure last year due to poor management.

Thanks for the tip,

Pat

SM Shenanigans

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Osterberg <osterberg.paul.l@...>
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Sent: Wed, Aug 4, 2021 8:33 am
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Battery Switches

The handle on my switch is just to pill off just friction holding it in place.

Paul on SY Kerpa SM # 259; Las Palmas


Backstay Tension A54

Dean Gillies
 

I had to disconnect my back stays for the lifting in 2019 and launching of Stella last week. I'm sure the tension is not the same as it was originally. Does anyone know the (numerical) tension they should be reset to?  Maybe someone has a full rig tensioning specification for the A54?
Many thanks.
Dean
SY Stella
A54-154


 


Re: Battery Switches

Patrick McAneny
 

Paul, I just went out to the boat and it took a hard pull or two ,but the handle did come off. Did you access the inside to clean the contacts,if so ,was there any problem getting the back off. It won't come as a surprise to you , Georgetown Marina went into foreclosure last year due to poor management.
Thanks for the tip,
Pat
SM Shenanigans


-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Osterberg <osterberg.paul.l@...>
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Sent: Wed, Aug 4, 2021 8:33 am
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Battery Switches

The handle on my switch is just to pill off just friction holding it in place.
Paul on SY Kerpa SM # 259; Las Palmas


Re: Battery Switches

Patrick McAneny
 

Paul on mine ,which should be the same,there is a small hole in the red handle ,I assume it was there because there was a pin holding the handle in place. Did you remove yours by just pulling it off?
Thanks,
Pat
SM Shenanigans


-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Osterberg <osterberg.paul.l@...>
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Sent: Wed, Aug 4, 2021 8:33 am
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Battery Switches

The handle on my switch is just to pill off just friction holding it in place.
Paul on SY Kerpa SM # 259; Las Palmas


Re: Battery Switches

Paul Osterberg
 

The handle on my switch is just to pill off just friction holding it in place.
Paul on SY Kerpa SM # 259; Las Palmas


Re: lithium battery warning

Ruslan Osmonov
 

@Michael, insurance has a different point of view on lithium 🙂 it is about stats and making money.


here is a quote from AAC website on tips about insurance. One of them about Lithium. 


https://www.morganscloud.com/2021/07/05/27-tips-to-get-insurance-for-offshore-voyaging-part-1-us-and-our-boat/

And while we are thinking about excuses underwriters can use to say no, think very carefully before adding new technology to your boat. For example, two AAC members were turned down by a major American underwriter because their boats have lithium batteries.


Re: Battery Switches

Mark & Debbie Mueller
 

I received a quote from Maud in April 2019 for 236.07 Euros plus tax and transport.  This was for a 54, not clear if the disconnects are interchangeable.
--
Mark & Debbie Mueller
Brass Ring  A54


Re: Maramu sail plan

Lance Leonard
 

It looks like it is set up for a hank on sail of some kind. The previous owner has made some odd choices here and there. BTW we were looking at a catamaran in Brunswick when my wife saw her first Amel, and now her we are. She walked away from the broker and wandered down the dock. I made my apologies to the broker (we weren’t buying a catamaran today) and found her talking to the owner of a SM, I think her name was Barbara.


Re: Maramu sail plan

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Staysail is (in french) "Trinquette"


On Tuesday, August 3, 2021, 04:14:45 PM AST, Bill Kinney <cruisingconsulting@...> wrote:


Randell,

The term “mizzen ballooner” is Amel’s odd and unique way of referring to what everybody else in the sailing world calls a “mizzen staysail.”  They are equivalent terms that refer to the same sail.  I believe the usual French term for a staysail would be voile d’ėtai

Bill Kinney
SM 160, Harmonie
Brunswick, GA 


Battery Switches

Patrick McAneny
 

I need to remove my battery switches ,hopefully to clean the contacts. Does anyone know the trick to removing the handles. It is hard to see into the small holes ,but I don't see a split pin to drive out. I also  don't know if it is hard to access the inside of the switch,but I know Brian on Delos cleaned his contacts ,so it is possible. Neither of my engines would start today and the only common thing to both is the switch and after turning them on and off several times ,they both turned over. Does anyone know if these switches can be purchased new.
Thanks,
Pat
SM Shenanigans


Re: Maramu sail plan

Bill Kinney
 

Randell,

The term “mizzen ballooner” is Amel’s odd and unique way of referring to what everybody else in the sailing world calls a “mizzen staysail.”  They are equivalent terms that refer to the same sail.  I believe the usual French term for a staysail would be voile d’ėtai

Bill Kinney
SM 160, Harmonie
Brunswick, GA 


Re: lithium battery warning

Eric Meury
 
Edited



Michael.     look i'm not trying to gossip or stur up anything..  I"m part of this group, i'm an amel owner, and i have insurance via the jackline.  You can believe what you want AND I AGREE 100% with  i'm just tellign the group what was just told me.  I didn't ask about lithium   It should be telling that this was the companies first question.  Not the age of the bolt, not the condition, not the model, not the hull material.  She didn't seem to happy about it.


Re: lithium battery warning

Mark Erdos
 

This is going to continue to grow as an issue for people with lithium battery installations (especially those who self installed). The ABYC now has TE-13 which specifies notifications (visual and/or audible) prior to BMS disconnect. Only a few high end UL listed LiFePo4 batteries have this feature.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Eric Meury
Sent: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 5:58 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] lithium battery warning

 

take this for what it is worth.  

This may be a new reality.  but it is information you can decide what is best for you.  I posted this on the Amel FB group

LIthium battery warning!!!!

background : We are considering selling our santorin and looking at French Alum. Centerboard Sloops. In my research, i decided to call our insurance "the jackline" THE FIRST QUESTIONS SHE ASKED ME was "what type of batteries does the boat have" The very first! .... this prompted a discussion and these are what she said for the boats to be underwirtten. This is a big deal for even those Amels that have converted already. When you want to sell others may not be able to bind coverage. This changes my thoughts regarding intalling lithium in our current boat or any possible boat we purchase.

These are the rules.

lithium batteries have to bms. can't be self installed, and have to be installed by US person that has experience, and the value of the boat has to be under 150k.


Re: lithium battery warning

Michael Markstaller
 

Sorry, this is IMHO just GOSSIP for making poeple crazy/scary!
LiFeYPO4 batteries are even safer than GEL/AGM, muuch more powerful and
resistant against cycles/deep discharge.
Yes, one needs a BMS for every cell, like it (should!) be for every
other battery.

But I'm looking forward for my 800Ah @ 12V to arrive soon and install
with > 1kWp PV :-)


greets, Michael


Am 03.08.21 um 17:58 schrieb Eric Meury:

take this for what it is worth.  

This may be a new reality.  but it is information you can decide what is
best for you.  I posted this on the Amel FB group

LIthium battery warning!!!!
background : We are considering selling our santorin and looking at
French Alum. Centerboard Sloops. In my research, i decided to call our
insurance "the jackline" THE FIRST QUESTIONS SHE ASKED ME was "what type
of batteries does the boat have" The very first! .... this prompted a
discussion and these are what she said for the boats to be underwirtten.
This is a big deal for even those Amels that have converted already.
When you want to sell others may not be able to bind coverage. This
changes my thoughts regarding intalling lithium in our current boat or
any possible boat we purchase.
These are the rules.
lithium batteries have to bms. can't be self installed, and have to be
installed by US person that has experience, and the value of the boat
has to be under 150k.
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