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Stuck mainsail swivel

Gregory Shea
 

Hello all,
Both Dieter Busch and I have the same problem with a frozen mainsail swivel on our Sharkis from1986. Two years of inactivity have taken their toll. We both have manual roller furling and there is no way to extract the swivel from the mast without lifting the spar. So, we are trying to free them with water and WD40 while the swivel is still inside the sail tube.
Frozen swivels are not new so I was wondering if other owners who encountered the problem managed to solve it without extracting the swivel from the mast. Mine is locked solid and the manual furling mechanism is not robust enough to apply much force. I need to be working directly on the swivel but grabbing hold of it has me stymied.
Any suggestions or experiences would be greatly appreciated.

Greg Shea
Sharki 133, Kilada, Greece


Re: Where to buy Corrosion X

 

Normally airlines allow the pump bottle, but1, the aerosol can is not allowed.

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On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 6:55 PM Drew Gaffney <drew.gaffney@...> wrote:
I've carried it in checked baggage many times over the years without problems in original container.
Drew
S/V Revelation SM390
Lying Carloforte, Sardinia


On Thu, Aug 19, 2021, 5:06 PM Joerg Esdorn via groups.io <jhe1313=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
It looks like a lot of participants in this site use Corrosion X extensively.  The problem for me is:  where do you buy it when your boat is in Europe?  I can‘t buy it in the US and take it with me on the airplane, right?  

Joerg Esdorn
A55 #53 Kincsem
Currently in La Rochelle 


Re: Forward mainstay chainplate

Olivier Beaute
 

Hello Iris and Kent,

on your picture, there is a chip of white gel-coat coming off the toe-rail.
It seems that something (a neighbor) has pushed on the chain-plate from outside, and created the hair cracks in the gel-coat of the toe-rail.
This is probably only cosmetic. Did you see any mark on the chain-plate? Do you see a difference in the angle compared to the chain-plate on the other side?
No worry about the chain-plate holding as it is bolted into the hull and not into the toe-rail (which is part of the deck).

Olivier

On Saturday, August 21, 2021, 08:58:21 AM GMT+2, karkauai via groups.io <karkauai@...> wrote:


Hi again all.   I posted a pic in this thread of the toerail a few days ago.  Any thoughts?  Joel?

Thanks,
--
Kent & Iris
KRISTY
SM243


Re: How to fix your starter motor

Alan Leslie
 

That is SERIOUSLY IMPRESSIVE !

Thanks Eric

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Gap between the mizzen mast step and the rear cabin top on a Maramu

Marco Baldan
 

Dear Amel Owners Group,


Looking for a Maramu, yesterday I visited a unit for sale. The boat looks in good overall conditions but I noticed a gap between the mizzen mast support and the rear cabin top. Also the main-mast backstay chain-plate shows a gap.
The owner told me he contacted the Amel Owners Group in the past and was told this is fairly common on the Maramu and not a problem.
Has any of you, Maramu owners, experienced something similar? Is it a matter of concern? Worth glassing/fixing it?

Thanks for your advice/feedback,
marco baldan




Re: Forward mainstay chainplate

karkauai
 

Hi again all.   I posted a pic in this thread of the toerail a few days ago.  Any thoughts?  Joel?

Thanks,
--
Kent & Iris
KRISTY
SM243


Re: Wind generators

JB Duler
 

Alan, you are totally right.
I forgot about the travel lift issue. Our D400 is on the aft starboard on a pole.
Last time the operator was incredibly skilled and the cables were within two inches of the wind vane. It would have been impossible for a regular operator to not hit the vane.
Cheers
--
John Bernard "JB" Duler
San Francisco
Meltem # 19, Western Med


Re: Where to buy Corrosion X

Drew Gaffney
 

I've carried it in checked baggage many times over the years without problems in original container.
Drew
S/V Revelation SM390
Lying Carloforte, Sardinia


On Thu, Aug 19, 2021, 5:06 PM Joerg Esdorn via groups.io <jhe1313=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
It looks like a lot of participants in this site use Corrosion X extensively.  The problem for me is:  where do you buy it when your boat is in Europe?  I can‘t buy it in the US and take it with me on the airplane, right?  

Joerg Esdorn
A55 #53 Kincsem
Currently in La Rochelle 


Re: Wind generators

Germain Jean-Pierre
 

I will confirm Alan’s sentiments.

Wind generators are, by and large, a myth.  My good mate has one on his boat and from transiting the Pacific in company, I confirm that their performance is poor.  

My mate installed a permanent hull mounted Watt & Sea (newer model) and he’s delighted with the results thus far.

Good luck in your choice.

Kind regards

Jean-Pierre Germain, Eleuthera, SM007, NZ




On 21 Aug 2021, at 11:38, Alan Leslie <s.v.elyse@...> wrote:

We have a D400, and while it's not particular;y noisy, doesn't vibrate, it certainly doesn't put out much power.
It came with the boat so for the meantime it stays. 
The only time I have ever seen any usable amount of power out of it was sailing upwind from NZ to Tahiti in 35+ knots true.
I don't really want to be sailing like that if I can avoid it. AND I don't want to be moored in windy anchorages!
Also, where it is mounted, on a pole on the port aft corner, causes us problems with travel lifts in marinas.
Our 600W of solar panels though are a completely different story. They consistently provide more power than we can use. They are completely silent and require little or no maintenance
I wouldn't waste my money on a wind generator, and I will in time,take it down and sell it to a true believer. 
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: Wind generators

Alan Leslie
 

We have a D400, and while it's not particular;y noisy, doesn't vibrate, it certainly doesn't put out much power.
It came with the boat so for the meantime it stays. 
The only time I have ever seen any usable amount of power out of it was sailing upwind from NZ to Tahiti in 35+ knots true.
I don't really want to be sailing like that if I can avoid it. AND I don't want to be moored in windy anchorages!
Also, where it is mounted, on a pole on the port aft corner, causes us problems with travel lifts in marinas.
Our 600W of solar panels though are a completely different story. They consistently provide more power than we can use. They are completely silent and require little or no maintenance
I wouldn't waste my money on a wind generator, and I will in time,take it down and sell it to a true believer. 
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: Wind generators

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

I too have the super wind 350. It has progressive geared self feathering that fully engages in winds over 40 knots. I got 10 years constant use before the bearings wore out and I replaced it. Nil maintenance needed in those 10 years. Also totally quiet and vibration free mounted on top of the mizzen. I have solar as well. Hot and sunny, no wind, solar, cold cloudy and windy, wind. Windy and sunny. Wow Good ballance IMHO.
Danny
SM 299
Ocean Pearl

On 20 August 2021 at 23:15 Alain Durante <info@florihana.com> wrote:


Nick,
You should consider the Superwind 350 or 353, which is in my opinion the best wind generator on the market.
The 353 has new features in case of very strong wind.

I will have one soon on my 54.

Cordialement,

Alain Durante
S/Y Meige
AMEL54-021 currently in Antibes, south of France

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De : main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> De la part de ngtnewington Newington via groups.io
Envoyé : vendredi 20 août 2021 12:04
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Objet : [AmelYachtOwners] Wind generators

I thought I would consult the group. A fountain of knowledge for sure.
My recent sailing included some windy conditions in the Cyclades with gusts in excess of 60kn.
My Rutland 1200 wind generators burned out, the braking system could not hold them.
I am fed up with the brand, but I still want one wind generator if not two. I find that on passage they are great especially in windy conditions when the autopilot is working hard. The batteries are full.
I know that solar is better
I know that Lithium is better
But for the moment I want to stick with my AGM’s and I want to stick with wind generators.
I am considering
D400 Wind generator
I am also considering replacing my Solar Innova 265w x 2 panels with LG NeONR 390w panels that are only 10cm longer.
The questions are:
1. Which wind generator is the best?
2. Which brand of solar panel?
Current size 1642 x 994 mm 265w
The LG will fit 1740 x 1042 mm
390w

Nick
S/Y Amelia
AML 54-019
Back in Patmos enjoying glorious conditions of 15-20kn, clear water, cool nights.










Re: Primary Rawater Manafold

 

It screws into an Amel-made elbow on an Amel-modified Vetus sea chest. I am not sure, but the threads on the non-modified Vetus sea chest without the Amel-made elbow are 2" BPT


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On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 9:40 AM Chris Doucette <amaroksailing@...> wrote:
Does anyone know what the thread size is on this for a late model SM2K (Circled Red) ?  




Chris
Amarok, SM385


Re: Where to buy Corrosion X

James
 

I had a can in my checked in luggage leaving Grenada after delivering a boat from Europe.. got it confiscated. so annoyed! 


Re: #attackedbywhales #newboat WE SOLD THE BOAT! Now what??? Sailing Ocean F... #attackedbywhales #newboat

Martin Birkhoff
 

Hello Stefan,
 
of course we reported the encounter with the orcas to orcasibericas.com. 

From my point of view it is interesting to collect as much information as possible about comparable orca interactions in a standardised form. Therefore, I have created a draft questionnaire that I would like to coordinate with orcasiberica.com. 

My idea is to make the final version of the questionnaire available through the major sailing associations (SSA, RORC, Royal Ocean Cruising Foundation, Trans-Ocean, etc. and of course the internet) in order to obtain data that can be used for valid statistical analysis. I have already discussed this idea with the Trans-Ocean board and they will support the idea. 
Unfortunately, family matters have prevented me from pursuing this idea further in recent weeks, but I hope to be able to continue soon.

By the way (as a landscape architect and environmental engineer) I have to note that it is no good idea to put diesel, petroleum or chlorox into the sea. Protecting the seas and ecosystems should be a main issue to us.

Martin
SV Mago del Sur - 54#40
Alicante, Spain


Re: Primary Rawater Manafold

Chris Doucette
 

Bumping this to see if anyone know those thread sizes?  


Re: Wind generators

Matt & Michelle Day, SM#208 SV Talia
 

Lovely turn of phase Nick.  Don't we all covet the wind.  Great conversation.

Matt


Re: Wind generators

Nick Newington
 

So it looks like the Superwind from Germany is the best bet, but my mount will need some adjusting.


Just checked out Sunpower 400W solar panels. I have to admit that from a cost benefit analysis there is a lot to be said with doing away with wind generators and investing in better solar. My existing arch will easily accommodate only very slightly larger panels that should produce 50% more power. I will have to adjust a couple of mounting lugs.
In sunny climes this will be more than enough to run everything.

So my thinking is to upgrade the solar and see how we go. If I then still covet wind power I will get it.

Nick
Amelia
AML 54-019
Patmos Gr


On 20 Aug 2021, at 19:07, JB Duler <jbduler@...> wrote:

The previous owner installed a D400. The machine itself is great and smooth.
But...

1) the whole boat vibrates above 20 knots. I since found that 2 out of 4 nuts were missing with no washers (mediocre yard in Port Napoleon).
2) At 30-35 knots the vibrations are close to unbearable. I think it was mounted on a pole that is too high with no support mid way, so the pole enters into resonance 
3) I think it was mounted high to avoid problems with the topping lift. Despite that you have to keep the topping lift super tight otherwise you'll break a blade or two.

The output is mediocre and if it blowing too hard the extra energy is funneled into resistances.

Bottom line, it creates additional complexity in the back of the boat and I am thinking about removing it. The output is not that great compared to solar.
My recommendation: don't buy one, put solar panels in different locations (like on the stern arch and on the cockpit), each with a different controller.
--
John Bernard "JB" Duler
San Francisco
Meltem # 19, Western Med


Re: Wind generators

JB Duler
 

The previous owner installed a D400. The machine itself is great and smooth.
But...

1) the whole boat vibrates above 20 knots. I since found that 2 out of 4 nuts were missing with no washers (mediocre yard in Port Napoleon).
2) At 30-35 knots the vibrations are close to unbearable. I think it was mounted on a pole that is too high with no support mid way, so the pole enters into resonance 
3) I think it was mounted high to avoid problems with the topping lift. Despite that you have to keep the topping lift super tight otherwise you'll break a blade or two.

The output is mediocre and if it blowing too hard the extra energy is funneled into resistances.

Bottom line, it creates additional complexity in the back of the boat and I am thinking about removing it. The output is not that great compared to solar.
My recommendation: don't buy one, put solar panels in different locations (like on the stern arch and on the cockpit), each with a different controller.
--
John Bernard "JB" Duler
San Francisco
Meltem # 19, Western Med


Re: VOLVO TMD22 Ext Reg Alternator

Matt & Michelle Day, SM#208 SV Talia
 

Paul,

Thank you for the insight.  I was not sure if you could modify the Valeo A14N118M alternator to install the external regulator.  That is a great option given the ready availability of the unit.

I have been talking with Balmar, APS and Mastervolt.  Looks like they all have a 2" foot small frame available from 28V/100-140A. However, to your point, all require the pully change to serpentine after you hit 100A due to belt slippage.  It helps that the Balmar regulator seems to be programable to control the soft start up to 3 minutes to limit slippage and wear.  But, that just seems like avoiding wear/tear that will bite me in the ass over open water.  

All the vendors are scratching their heads on the pulley change with the dual alternator installation.  I am not on the boat at the moment so cannot verify if their pulley setup will work, or how the Volvo is setup (single dual V or stacked/bolted dual V, shrouds, bolt sizing, clearance, etc). 

I take your point on the size of the TMD and adding load.   I have not done the loading calculations yet.  Probably should have earlier.  I imagine the parasitic loads have increased significantly given the age of the boat.

Thank you again for your insight.  Much appreciated.

Matt  


Re: VOLVO TMD22 Ext Reg Alternator

Paul Osterberg
 

We did not replaced the original alternator, but installed a Balmar external regulator, very pleased with that, increased the out put, A few years back we were looking at the Victron alternator of 125 or 150 A, but you need a stronger pulley and as well reinforce the fastening. An other issue is a larger alternator demand more Hk from your TMD 22, which I think is already on the low side when going against the wind and waves already at moderate conditions. Further now with plenty of solar and Li cells, we do not need to charge  much with the engine alternator, I have a switch so can turn off the alternator if so desire by opening the field wire, the BMS also open the field if the Li Cells are fully charged
Paul on SY Kerpa SM#259, now Gran Canaria
 

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