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Re: Bali Hai Abandoned

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Yes it is interesting that in stress situations the boat is often more resilient than the crew and bad decisions are made. But unless you are there experiencing what they experience it is difficult to judge. However the availability of helicopter rescue is one factor that could allow crew to put unsustainable pressure on the skipper.  Wouldn't we all have loved to be there to pick up that boat. In my pre offshore briefings to the crew I tell them if something goes wrong we fix it. Not to even consider rescue,  because in our Pacific situation rescue could be 24 hours away and if we can survive the situation for 24 hours????

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 25 August 2021 at 15:46 eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:

Profound seasickness—interesting!

If you google “The one that got away” in ocean navigator there is an article about us and another boat.

A Canadian sailed south and was 400 miles from Puerto Rico when he called for help due to extreme dehydration. We were asked to assist. We were within 200 feet of a beautiful sailboat just bobbing in the sea. Without a skipper.

Unfortunately, the rescue ship took the boat in tow. When the tow broke, they gave us the position. After towing it for 8 hours we got there near sunset,

 

I was concerned about getting crew on board as it was getting dark soon. If they would have not taken it in tow, we would have sailed it to St Maarten and returned it to the boat owner without a salvage fee. My crew was very bummed out as we could have easily salvaged

her if it was not towed—The boat was named SCAT—what a name . It turned up in Jost van Dyk

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Paul Harries via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2021 9:25 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Bali Hai Abandoned

 

There were likely other factors such as:
Profound sea sickness

Unable to deploy drone or sea anchor

Physical injuries from being thrown about

Psychological impact if skipper and Admiral disagree on strategy.


It is very interesting that even calm, collective individuals can have a change of mindset under adverse conditions when serial failures also occur. This pattern is often seen aviation disasters but also in other venues such as the operating room! Some have described it as a temporary brain fog, a bit like when we are lost but fail to accept the fact when reconciling assumed position with chart or map.


--
Paul Harries
Prospective Amel Buyer

 



 


 


Re: Bali Hai Abandoned

eric freedman <kimberlite@...>
 

Profound seasickness—interesting!

If you google “The one that got away” in ocean navigator there is an article about us and another boat.

A Canadian sailed south and was 400 miles from Puerto Rico when he called for help due to extreme dehydration. We were asked to assist. We were within 200 feet of a beautiful sailboat just bobbing in the sea. Without a skipper.

Unfortunately, the rescue ship took the boat in tow. When the tow broke, they gave us the position. After towing it for 8 hours we got there near sunset,

 

I was concerned about getting crew on board as it was getting dark soon. If they would have not taken it in tow, we would have sailed it to St Maarten and returned it to the boat owner without a salvage fee. My crew was very bummed out as we could have easily salvaged

her if it was not towed—The boat was named SCAT—what a name . It turned up in Jost van Dyk

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Paul Harries via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2021 9:25 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Bali Hai Abandoned

 

There were likely other factors such as:
Profound sea sickness

Unable to deploy drone or sea anchor

Physical injuries from being thrown about

Psychological impact if skipper and Admiral disagree on strategy.


It is very interesting that even calm, collective individuals can have a change of mindset under adverse conditions when serial failures also occur. This pattern is often seen aviation disasters but also in other venues such as the operating room! Some have described it as a temporary brain fog, a bit like when we are lost but fail to accept the fact when reconciling assumed position with chart or map.


--
Paul Harries
Prospective Amel Buyer


Re: Kubota engine model number for the MDKAV generator

eric freedman <kimberlite@...>
 

Thanks Bill.

Fair Winds

ERIC

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2021 9:00 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Kubota engine model number for the MDKAV generator

 

SM 387 has Onan Model 7MDKAV2317, SN# JO10296057, Powered By Kubota 3-Cyl Diesel Mdl D1105, Sn# In5262, 7Kw, 50 Hz, 220 Volt At 1500 Rpm   

 

Bill


CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School

Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 

 

View My Training Calendar

 

On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 8:51 PM eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:

 

Hi,

I am looking for some parts for my MDKAV Onan generator.

It has a Kubota engine , unfortunately someone at Onan painted over the model plate.

Does anyone know the model number of the engine?

Fair Winds

ERIC

Kimberlite Amel SM 376

 


Re: Bali Hai Abandoned

Paul Harries
 

There were likely other factors such as:
Profound sea sickness
Unable to deploy drone or sea anchor
Physical injuries from being thrown about
Psychological impact if skipper and Admiral disagree on strategy.

It is very interesting that even calm, collective individuals can have a change of mindset under adverse conditions when serial failures also occur. This pattern is often seen aviation disasters but also in other venues such as the operating room! Some have described it as a temporary brain fog, a bit like when we are lost but fail to accept the fact when reconciling assumed position with chart or map.


--
Paul Harries
Prospective Amel Buyer


Re: Kubota engine model number for the MDKAV generator

Paul Harries
 

Bill, that is impressive, to know the serial no of a generator on a boat you have never owned! Wow!
--
Paul Harries
Prospective Amel Buyer


Re: Kubota engine model number for the MDKAV generator

 

SM 387 has Onan Model 7MDKAV2317, SN# JO10296057, Powered By Kubota 3-Cyl Diesel Mdl D1105, Sn# In5262, 7Kw, 50 Hz, 220 Volt At 1500 Rpm   

Bill

CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar

On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 8:51 PM eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:

 

Hi,

I am looking for some parts for my MDKAV Onan generator.

It has a Kubota engine , unfortunately someone at Onan painted over the model plate.

Does anyone know the model number of the engine?

Fair Winds

ERIC

Kimberlite Amel SM 376

 


Re: Bali Hai Abandoned

eric freedman <kimberlite@...>
 

The boat still had a bit of sail up and looking at the wave height I don’t think the wind was above 45 knots. In addition the story mentioned they were over 150 miles east of Hatteras. Lots of room to play.

Each person has their own limit when it comes to issues on the boat.

I believe there is more to this story.

Fair Winds

ERIC

Kimberlite Amel SM 376

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Erdos
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2021 9:02 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Bali Hai Abandoned

 

Certainly not being judgmental but, the conditions don’t seem life treating. The boat seems to be going along just fine with the stern into the weather. Was there other equipment failures?

 

The jumping into the water and being hoisted into a helicopter would scare me a hell of a lot more than riding out the weather.

 

What was the story on the boat? I can imagine it sunk. Was it found sailing along somewhere by itself?

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Patrick McAneny via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2021 10:24 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Bali Hai Abandoned

 

The Bali Hai  incident happened Nov. 2020, not recently. 

 

 

Pat

SM Shenanigans

-----Original Message-----
From: eric freedman <kimberlite@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Sent: Sun, Aug 22, 2021 5:00 pm
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Bali Hai Abandoned

I am surprised that Bali Hai was abandoned. Does anyone know the experience of the crew, Was Bali Hai ever recovered?

The seas did not seem so bad, I am sure that a Jordan Series drogue would have made the difference and she would still be floating with the same owners.

Fair Winds

ERIC

Kimberlite Amel SM 376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 11:28 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Super Maramu Rear Cabin - Proposed New Top hatch

 

Regrettably, Bali Hai was lost in the Atlantic near the US shore when the crew abandoned her.

 

Here are some photos of an aft cabin hatch install on a SM. I do not recommend the wooden outside spacer used in this modification. If an external spacer is used I believe it should be fabricated from GRP.

 

That coach roof is balsa filled, so any penetration should be done by experienced people and care should be taken that the exposed balsa in sealed correctly.

 


CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School

+1 832-380-4970 | brouse@...

Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 

 

 

On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 11:14 AM ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@...> <ianjudyjenkins@...> wrote:

Hi George,

 

 You will not be the first to do this. There was an SM called Bali Hai, based in Malta, whose owners did the same. Since sold, I don't know where it is today.

 

 Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Kilada, Greece


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of George Green via groups.io <gdagreen=yahoo.com@groups.io>
Sent: 22 August 2021 15:46
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Super Maramu Rear Cabin - Proposed New Top hatch

 

We love our 2004/5 SM COCO, currently on the hard in Greece.

As part of a post COVID set of upgrades while staying on the hard, we are considering installing a full size Lewmar style hatch, opening forward, on the roof of the rear master cabin, when we ,hopefully get back to Greece in mid-September. My wife finds it pretty hot in this cabin, at anchor in the summer due to little or no direct airflow.  Yes , we do have a wind scoop ,  which can be hooked through the rear hatch, but this has limited effectiveness.

If anyone has tried this, i would welcome their experiences and constructive comments, even alternate solutions   I am aware there is a a degree of slope on this deck roof which may involve some extra work.

Many thanks

George
Amel SM 434


Kubota engine model number for the MDKAV generator

eric freedman <kimberlite@...>
 

 

Hi,

I am looking for some parts for my MDKAV Onan generator.

It has a Kubota engine , unfortunately someone at Onan painted over the model plate.

Does anyone know the model number of the engine?

Fair Winds

ERIC

Kimberlite Amel SM 376

 


Re: Bali Hai Abandoned

Mark Erdos
 

Certainly not being judgmental but, the conditions don’t seem life treating. The boat seems to be going along just fine with the stern into the weather. Was there other equipment failures?

 

The jumping into the water and being hoisted into a helicopter would scare me a hell of a lot more than riding out the weather.

 

What was the story on the boat? I can imagine it sunk. Was it found sailing along somewhere by itself?

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Patrick McAneny via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2021 10:24 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Bali Hai Abandoned

 

-----Original Message-----
From: eric freedman <kimberlite@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Sent: Sun, Aug 22, 2021 5:00 pm
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Bali Hai Abandoned

I am surprised that Bali Hai was abandoned. Does anyone know the experience of the crew, Was Bali Hai ever recovered?

The seas did not seem so bad, I am sure that a Jordan Series drogue would have made the difference and she would still be floating with the same owners.

Fair Winds

ERIC

Kimberlite Amel SM 376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 11:28 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Super Maramu Rear Cabin - Proposed New Top hatch

 

Regrettably, Bali Hai was lost in the Atlantic near the US shore when the crew abandoned her.

 

Here are some photos of an aft cabin hatch install on a SM. I do not recommend the wooden outside spacer used in this modification. If an external spacer is used I believe it should be fabricated from GRP.

 

That coach roof is balsa filled, so any penetration should be done by experienced people and care should be taken that the exposed balsa in sealed correctly.

 


CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School

+1 832-380-4970 | brouse@...

Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 

 

 

On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 11:14 AM ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@...> <ianjudyjenkins@...> wrote:

Hi George,

 

 You will not be the first to do this. There was an SM called Bali Hai, based in Malta, whose owners did the same. Since sold, I don't know where it is today.

 

 Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Kilada, Greece


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of George Green via groups.io <gdagreen=yahoo.com@groups.io>
Sent: 22 August 2021 15:46
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Super Maramu Rear Cabin - Proposed New Top hatch

 

We love our 2004/5 SM COCO, currently on the hard in Greece.

As part of a post COVID set of upgrades while staying on the hard, we are considering installing a full size Lewmar style hatch, opening forward, on the roof of the rear master cabin, when we ,hopefully get back to Greece in mid-September. My wife finds it pretty hot in this cabin, at anchor in the summer due to little or no direct airflow.  Yes , we do have a wind scoop ,  which can be hooked through the rear hatch, but this has limited effectiveness.

If anyone has tried this, i would welcome their experiences and constructive comments, even alternate solutions   I am aware there is a a degree of slope on this deck roof which may involve some extra work.

Many thanks

George
Amel SM 434


Re: Annapolis Open Boat Saturday 10/16 4-8pm

Paul Harries
 

Thinking of attending, any advice on best day to visit? Nothing on Amel site, is it necessary to prebook tour?
--
Paul Harries
Prospective Amel Buyer


Re: Bali Hai Abandoned

Patrick McAneny
 

We met the owner a couple of times, he was out of Annapolis. It would be interesting to know the outcome,if he retrieved his boat.
Pat
SM Shenanigans
Sassafras River, Md.


-----Original Message-----
From: Justin Maguire <justin_maguire@...>
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Sent: Tue, Aug 24, 2021 5:08 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Bali Hai Abandoned

Was it ever cleared up as to what the problem was?


On Aug 24, 2021, at 13:24, Patrick McAneny via groups.io <sailw32@...> wrote:


The Bali Hai  incident happened Nov. 2020, not recently. 


Pat
SM Shenanigans


-----Original Message-----
From: eric freedman <kimberlite@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Sent: Sun, Aug 22, 2021 5:00 pm
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Bali Hai Abandoned

I am surprised that Bali Hai was abandoned. Does anyone know the experience of the crew, Was Bali Hai ever recovered?
The seas did not seem so bad, I am sure that a Jordan Series drogue would have made the difference and she would still be floating with the same owners.
Fair Winds
ERIC
Kimberlite Amel SM 376
 
 
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 11:28 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Super Maramu Rear Cabin - Proposed New Top hatch
 
Regrettably, Bali Hai was lost in the Atlantic near the US shore when the crew abandoned her.
 
Here are some photos of an aft cabin hatch install on a SM. I do not recommend the wooden outside spacer used in this modification. If an external spacer is used I believe it should be fabricated from GRP.
 
That coach roof is balsa filled, so any penetration should be done by experienced people and care should be taken that the exposed balsa in sealed correctly.
 
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CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
 
 
On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 11:14 AM ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@...> <ianjudyjenkins@...> wrote:
Hi George,
 
 You will not be the first to do this. There was an SM called Bali Hai, based in Malta, whose owners did the same. Since sold, I don't know where it is today.
 
 Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Kilada, Greece

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of George Green via groups.io <gdagreen=yahoo.com@groups.io>
Sent: 22 August 2021 15:46
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Super Maramu Rear Cabin - Proposed New Top hatch
 
We love our 2004/5 SM COCO, currently on the hard in Greece.

As part of a post COVID set of upgrades while staying on the hard, we are considering installing a full size Lewmar style hatch, opening forward, on the roof of the rear master cabin, when we ,hopefully get back to Greece in mid-September. My wife finds it pretty hot in this cabin, at anchor in the summer due to little or no direct airflow.  Yes , we do have a wind scoop ,  which can be hooked through the rear hatch, but this has limited effectiveness.

If anyone has tried this, i would welcome their experiences and constructive comments, even alternate solutions   I am aware there is a a degree of slope on this deck roof which may involve some extra work.

Many thanks

George
Amel SM 434
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Re: Annapolis Open Boat Saturday 10/16 4-8pm

Justin Maguire
 

For those of you looking – my amel 50 will be the amel show boat at Annapolis.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Denis Angleton
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2021 2:18 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Annapolis Open Boat Saturday 10/16 4-8pm

 

Karen, Thanks for the gracious offer, I just messaged you and hope to be able to meet you in Annapolis.

 


Re: Annapolis Open Boat Saturday 10/16 4-8pm

Denis Angleton
 

Karen, Thanks for the gracious offer, I just messaged you and hope to be able to meet you in Annapolis.


Re: Bali Hai Abandoned

Justin Maguire
 

Was it ever cleared up as to what the problem was?


On Aug 24, 2021, at 13:24, Patrick McAneny via groups.io <sailw32@...> wrote:


The Bali Hai  incident happened Nov. 2020, not recently. 


Pat
SM Shenanigans


-----Original Message-----
From: eric freedman <kimberlite@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Sent: Sun, Aug 22, 2021 5:00 pm
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Bali Hai Abandoned

I am surprised that Bali Hai was abandoned. Does anyone know the experience of the crew, Was Bali Hai ever recovered?
The seas did not seem so bad, I am sure that a Jordan Series drogue would have made the difference and she would still be floating with the same owners.
Fair Winds
ERIC
Kimberlite Amel SM 376
 
 
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 11:28 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Super Maramu Rear Cabin - Proposed New Top hatch
 
Regrettably, Bali Hai was lost in the Atlantic near the US shore when the crew abandoned her.
 
Here are some photos of an aft cabin hatch install on a SM. I do not recommend the wooden outside spacer used in this modification. If an external spacer is used I believe it should be fabricated from GRP.
 
That coach roof is balsa filled, so any penetration should be done by experienced people and care should be taken that the exposed balsa in sealed correctly.
 
<image001.png>

<image002.png>
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
 
 
On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 11:14 AM ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@...> <ianjudyjenkins@...> wrote:
Hi George,
 
 You will not be the first to do this. There was an SM called Bali Hai, based in Malta, whose owners did the same. Since sold, I don't know where it is today.
 
 Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Kilada, Greece

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of George Green via groups.io <gdagreen=yahoo.com@groups.io>
Sent: 22 August 2021 15:46
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Super Maramu Rear Cabin - Proposed New Top hatch
 
We love our 2004/5 SM COCO, currently on the hard in Greece.

As part of a post COVID set of upgrades while staying on the hard, we are considering installing a full size Lewmar style hatch, opening forward, on the roof of the rear master cabin, when we ,hopefully get back to Greece in mid-September. My wife finds it pretty hot in this cabin, at anchor in the summer due to little or no direct airflow.  Yes , we do have a wind scoop ,  which can be hooked through the rear hatch, but this has limited effectiveness.

If anyone has tried this, i would welcome their experiences and constructive comments, even alternate solutions   I am aware there is a a degree of slope on this deck roof which may involve some extra work.

Many thanks

George
Amel SM 434
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<image001.png>


Re: Bali Hai Abandoned

Patrick McAneny
 

-----Original Message-----
From: eric freedman <kimberlite@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Sent: Sun, Aug 22, 2021 5:00 pm
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Bali Hai Abandoned

I am surprised that Bali Hai was abandoned. Does anyone know the experience of the crew, Was Bali Hai ever recovered?
The seas did not seem so bad, I am sure that a Jordan Series drogue would have made the difference and she would still be floating with the same owners.
Fair Winds
ERIC
Kimberlite Amel SM 376
 
 
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 11:28 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Super Maramu Rear Cabin - Proposed New Top hatch
 
Regrettably, Bali Hai was lost in the Atlantic near the US shore when the crew abandoned her.
 
Here are some photos of an aft cabin hatch install on a SM. I do not recommend the wooden outside spacer used in this modification. If an external spacer is used I believe it should be fabricated from GRP.
 
That coach roof is balsa filled, so any penetration should be done by experienced people and care should be taken that the exposed balsa in sealed correctly.
 

CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
 
 
On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 11:14 AM ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@...> <ianjudyjenkins@...> wrote:
Hi George,
 
 You will not be the first to do this. There was an SM called Bali Hai, based in Malta, whose owners did the same. Since sold, I don't know where it is today.
 
 Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Kilada, Greece

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of George Green via groups.io <gdagreen=yahoo.com@groups.io>
Sent: 22 August 2021 15:46
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Super Maramu Rear Cabin - Proposed New Top hatch
 
We love our 2004/5 SM COCO, currently on the hard in Greece.

As part of a post COVID set of upgrades while staying on the hard, we are considering installing a full size Lewmar style hatch, opening forward, on the roof of the rear master cabin, when we ,hopefully get back to Greece in mid-September. My wife finds it pretty hot in this cabin, at anchor in the summer due to little or no direct airflow.  Yes , we do have a wind scoop ,  which can be hooked through the rear hatch, but this has limited effectiveness.

If anyone has tried this, i would welcome their experiences and constructive comments, even alternate solutions   I am aware there is a a degree of slope on this deck roof which may involve some extra work.

Many thanks

George
Amel SM 434


Re: Interiour polish

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Ross, yes it is New Zealand made but in 2008 when we bought Ocean Pearl in Florida the previous owner left a bottle on board.

Kind Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 24 August 2021 at 22:10 "Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond via groups.io" <southernadventurer@...> wrote:

Neapol is a New Zealand made product that has been around for about 70 years. You may struggle to find it outside of New Zealand.

Ross Hickey
SV Intrepid Kiwi
SM2K #356
Currently in Turkey.


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad

On Tuesday, August 24, 2021, 11:57 AM, Seckin Barlas <seckinbar@...> wrote:

Perfect…
If I can find it in Turkey, I am going to apply to hayat alsı.
Thanks 
Seckin Barlas
SY Hayat

 

On 24 Aug 2021, at 02:00, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:

 

Sorry Eric. fat fingers. Neopol Original Creme furniture polish. When I bought the boat in Florida there was a bottle of it on board and any grocery store in NZ has it. 

Regards

Danny

SM 299 Ocean Pearl

On 24 August 2021 at 10:32 eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:

Hi Danny

Where did you get that polish, is the spelling correct?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io On Behalf Of Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 9:28 PM
To: Amel owners group <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Interiour polish

 

Hi all. Thought I would send you pictures of what Ocean Pearl's varnish looks like after a few hours work with Neaplol original creme furniture polish. Having the decks so good spured me on. The hatch slider looks good too but that is my varnish, not polish.

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

Mangonui

New Zealand 

 



 


 

 


 


 


Annapolis Open Boat Saturday 10/16 4-8pm

Karen Smith
 

Everyone is invited to visit our boat Harmonie, Amel Super Maramu #160, on Saturday October 16 from 4-8pm on the dock at Bert Jabins Yacht Yard in Annapolis. Current and future owners please do come.

It’s always a pleasure to meet current and new Amelians and talk all things boat!

An RSVP is requested to KLS6917@...

Vaccinated or masks requested


Repairing gelcoat at the entrance

Slavko Despotovic
 

I have a lot of broken small parts of finish on the area near to entrance of the boat. It was there when I bough Bonne Anse. As I am not an expert in this kind of work I need some advice how to do it, or maybe I should take her in to Amel service center for repairs. I have attached photos.
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Slavko
SM 2000
#279 Bonne Anse in Umag, Croatia


Re: Amazon has over 1000 BSP pipe fittings.

 

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CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar

On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 5:36 PM eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io On Behalf Of Alan Leslie
Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 3:17 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Primary Rawater Manafold

 

That's not quite true.....BSP 1 1/2 is 11 TPI and NPT 1 1/2 is 11.5 TPI,
NPT is a tapered thread, BSP comes in parallel BSPP and tapered BSPT.
NPS is the parallel version of NPT.
You can force an NPT into a BSPP at this size but, as Bill says, it will leak under pressure.
This situation is not under positive pressure, so you could probably get away with the bodgy fix of NPT into BSP + sealant....lots.
But it would be better to use a BSP fitting.... of course.

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: sailing through Tunisian waters

Stefan Jeukendrup
 

Hi Vladan,

Here is our experience since 2018 we sailing inand out of Tunesian waters at least once a year, from all sides, we love Monastir, no Quarantine, just a test when we where last there in July. Its a wonderful marina to winter as well, many international liveaboards.
Keep your AIS and VHF on and the Tunesian coast guard and Navy will give you a friendly call by boat name.

We encountered so far one refugee boat in 3 years. That was in July this year mid way between Algeria and Spain. It was a fast low open boat loaded with people and it looked like a  routine crossing, obviously not in danger or in need of help so we stayed clear as our ships are not equipped to take groups people.


Hope this helps you,

If you have any other question feel free to ask!

Stefan Jeukendrup 
sv Malaka Queen
SM2k #348


Op 24 aug. 2021 11:38 schreef Vladan SV PAME <vladan.bojic@...>:

Hello group,
 
I'm currently sailing 20 nm south of Sardinia towards south Sicily ( Ragusa )

Shortest way is going some 50 nm through Tunisian waters. Does anyone have recent experience sailing through Tunisian waters?

Do I need to report to Tunisian coastguard? I tried to get information from Italian coastguard but they could not understand simple English.

Best Regards,
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Vladan

A54 #157
SV PAME

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