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Re: Lithium Battery BMS

Dominique Sery
 

Scott, sorry for the late reply.  The easiest way for Victron Battery Protect is to install it at the entrance to the 24 volt switchboard in the locker above the kitchen sink.  All circuits controlled by the 24v board will be activated (or deactivated) by the Ve-bms.  In particular the “cockpit controls”.  There remain the navigation instruments which require another BP (small model) at the chart table, to be installed on the connection panel under the hull port, which is very easy to access.  

For your passerelle i think that the control is drive by the « cockpit controls » as the bowtruster, the winchs..
The other, more difficult solution is to separate the cables at the circuit breakers in the locker next to the engine battery.  It's a little more annoying because you have to install the bus bars and redo all the connections, some wires being soldered together and you have to separate the inputs (chargers - alternator) and the outputs (high powers - low powers)
Dominique


Re: LLC or Corporate ownership of vessel

James Watkins
 

Maybe I got lucky with the port I was in.  Novigrad is only open during the season but I worked fine and I got the required permit to sail Croatian waters.

 

Best Regards

Jim Watkins

Act II  Maramu hull 185

 

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From: Mark Erdos
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2021 9:14 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] LLC or Corporate ownership of vessel

 

For “proof of competency” you can take a free Florida boating test online. At the end it prints out a very nice official looking certificate and they mail you a license (with no expiration date) https://www.boatus.org/florida/

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 

 


Re: What to do with LiFePO4 batteries when the boat is layed up?

Sv Garulfo
 


Hi all,

With MV you can define events that are based on the SOC, at either predefined levels (60%, 80%, etc) or a user defined level called “battery full”, and can be used to trigger actions on other components on the network, for instance switching on/off the inverter, switching charging elements to float   (or off), etc. 

Hope that’ll help

Thomas 
GARULFO
A54-122
Tahiti 


On 17 Sep 2021, at 10:11, Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...> wrote:

Joerg,

I would be surprised if the MV software doesn't allow you to stop charging at a certain SOC vs having to guess with voltage. I can implement that on my less well integrated Victron system. Again, ask Garulfo as I believe they said it was simple to do so.

With respect to ideal SOC for storage, Victron delivers their batteries around 50% SOC, so that might suggest something. There's literature out there on how to prolong lithium batteries, but it's generally for more sensitive / explosive cobalt based batteries, but the consensus is 50-60%, matching Victron's SOC at delivery.

And correct, I don't leave the boat on shore power, even when it's available. The solar is far more than enough during storage periods and I don't risk bad wiring at the marina eating up my zincs and then my through hulls. Note that I don't have an isolation transformer or even a galvanic isolator. Was considering installing it but I find we're rarely at marinas and even if we're at one and aboard, I often don't bother plugging in.

What I like about setting the inverter to run above 60% is that my solar is more than enough to put in more power than the dehumidifier can draw. That, in effect, causes the battery to fill to 100% every few days, at minimum, but even if it's taken to 100% by the time the sun sets, the dehumidifier will draw down the batteries overnight so they don't sit at full for very long. And even if it's drawn down to 60%, there's plenty of capacity remaining to run the bilge pump for a long time before the sun rises again.


--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: What to do with LiFePO4 batteries when the boat is layed up?

Scott SV Tengah
 

Joerg,

I would be surprised if the MV software doesn't allow you to stop charging at a certain SOC vs having to guess with voltage. I can implement that on my less well integrated Victron system. Again, ask Garulfo as I believe they said it was simple to do so.

With respect to ideal SOC for storage, Victron delivers their batteries around 50% SOC, so that might suggest something. There's literature out there on how to prolong lithium batteries, but it's generally for more sensitive / explosive cobalt based batteries, but the consensus is 50-60%, matching Victron's SOC at delivery.

And correct, I don't leave the boat on shore power, even when it's available. The solar is far more than enough during storage periods and I don't risk bad wiring at the marina eating up my zincs and then my through hulls. Note that I don't have an isolation transformer or even a galvanic isolator. Was considering installing it but I find we're rarely at marinas and even if we're at one and aboard, I often don't bother plugging in.

What I like about setting the inverter to run above 60% is that my solar is more than enough to put in more power than the dehumidifier can draw. That, in effect, causes the battery to fill to 100% every few days, at minimum, but even if it's taken to 100% by the time the sun sets, the dehumidifier will draw down the batteries overnight so they don't sit at full for very long. And even if it's drawn down to 60%, there's plenty of capacity remaining to run the bilge pump for a long time before the sun rises again.


--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: LLC or Corporate ownership of vessel

James Watkins
 

I have one of these and it works great but have only used it in Croatia.  

 

Best Regards

Jim Watkins

Act II Maramu hull 185

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Mark Erdos
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2021 9:14 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] LLC or Corporate ownership of vessel

 

For “proof of competency” you can take a free Florida boating test online. At the end it prints out a very nice official looking certificate and they mail you a license (with no expiration date) https://www.boatus.org/florida/

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 

 


Re: Shore - Generator Switch-over box on A54 #solution

Nick Newington
 

Hi Mohammad and Ruedi,

I agree with you Mohammad. Prices will fall, insurers will become more comfortable. Lithium will replace lead acid, but it will take time, probably only a couple more years. 
On “Amelia" I bought “Lifeline” AGM’s in Grenada when I bought the boat in 2017 at considerable expense. I also installed solar and wind. The batteries have never been discharged below 60% and generally get back to 100% a lot of the time. I am hoping for many more years of use, especially as I only sail half time. The rest of the time the solar keeps them 100%.

As and when they start to die I will replace them with Lithium, but I am still not comfortable with the complexities in particular leaving the boat ashore unattended for prolonged periods. I am also not comfortable with being entirely dependent on an electronic BMS in far off remote places. The kind of places that I like to dream of exploring.

Nick

S/Y Amelia 
AML 54-019
Leros Gr

On 17 Sep 2021, at 08:27, Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...> wrote:

Hi Ruedi;
 
We are currently in the Med and, in my opinion,  Lithium is not a huge advantage in our cruising style here. Also our AGMs that we installed in 2018, have been working better than expected and almost as good as when installed new.
 
I believe that Lithium technology for yachts is in its infancy and the improvement curve fairly steep. Our plan is to convert to Lithium in about 2-3 years, before leaving the Med, so we can benefit from all the advancement in technology and safety. 
 
Respectfully;
 
 
Mohammad and Aty
B&B Kokomo
Amel 54 #099
 
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rudolf Waldispuehl via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 11:28 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Shore - Generator Switch-over box on A54 #solution
 
Hi Mohammad and Aty
 
Thank you for the drawing which helped me a lot. Exactly this page was not in my documentation. Don’t know why?
I found in the 220V Panel drawing K1- and K2-source referenced, but without any detail about K1 and K2. Now everything is very clear and you are absolutely right with the priorities.
 
  • When there is Power from the Generator, K1 is interrupting the Shore supply and switching to Generator with the K1 Relay.
  • When there is any Power from any K1 source (GE or Shore), K2 is active and the Inverter is not switched because K2 is keeping the Inverter 220V output unswitched (offline).
    • Even if the inverter is ON, it can’t deliver 220V to the panel, because K2 is ON as long as K1 delivers power.
 
This sound a bit complicated but it’s finally the priority GEN, Sore, Inverter as you said.
 
BTW: What is your Lithium Project doing? You have changed KOKOMO to Lithium meanwhile?
 
Thanks and fair winds
Ruedi & Sabina Waldispuehl
"SY WASABI"
Amel 54. #55
Currently in Estepona heading to Gibraltar
 
 
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An: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Betreff: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Shore - Generator Switch-over box on A54 #solution
 
Hi Ruedi;
 
There are electrical schematics in the original AMEL operator’s manual in the Appendix section, that came with the yacht, that show how they are wired. Attached is the schematic for the K1-K2 switchover relays.
 
I believe K1 and K2 switch/relays make the selection of power source.  Power first  goes through K1 which selects the source between shore power and generator. I believe that generator has priority over shore power. Once this source is selected, it goes through K2, which selects between the output of K1 and the inverter, with the output of K1 having higher priority.
 
I am fairly certain that the priority is: 
 
  1. Generator
  2. Shore power
  3. Inverter
 
Respectfully;
 
 
Mohammad and Aty
B&B Kokomo
Amel 54 #099
 
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rudolf Waldispuehl via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 8:31 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Shore - Generator Switch-over box on A54 #solution
 

Hello Amelian's

 
I tried to find out how the Shore/Generator Switchover Box in the Engine room of my Amel-54 is exactly working. I do have in addition a 2500W MV inverter installed originally from AMEL. Last few weeks the Switch-over is doing strange things and fuses are blowing. 
 
I have not found any accurate information (drawings) electric scheme of that AMEL specific switch-over mechanism. I don’t know how it detects either one or all 3 of the 240V sources, and which is the master over-ruling the Generator or Shore and/or Inverter. How it protects the Inverter when Shore or Generator is running, etc… 
Does anyone out there have any detailed information how these system works and may have an Electric scheme with in dept knowledge how it works?
 
Thanks a lot for investigation and best regards
Ruedi Waldispuehl
WASABI 
WASABI A54. #55
E-MAIL: mail@...



Re: LLC or Corporate ownership of vessel

Mohammad Shirloo
 

We ran into this issue in Montenegro. The harbor master was unwilling to allow us to “navigate” from the customs dock to our winter berth (about 500 yards away). None of our ASA sailing and US sailing certifications were acceptable. We spent a couple of hours in the harbor master’s office, while she looked on the internet, trying to figure out what the certificates were. It took our agent from Porto Montenegro almost an hour to get the hesitant approval. We were told that when we come back, the next season, if we do not have “something”  like the ICC, we would not be allowed to leave the Marina. Another friend on an Amel that was starting his second circumnavigation, ran into the same issue. They ere not interested in hearing how many times he had circled the globe.

 

ASA now has a certificate that they can  issue to all members that have a  bare boat chartering certificate. I believe it costs $25 and they mail out. It looks very official and have been accepted in Montenegro and Croatia, at least so far.

 

Respectfully;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

Amel 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Scott SV Tengah via groups.io
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2021 9:37 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] LLC or Corporate ownership of vessel

 

I was only asked for a cert of competency a handful of times. Croatia was the most stringent and I watched an American skipper kick and scream that his state's safety course should be accepted and how he has sailed all the way from the US, etc. 

He ended up having the choice between taking a course there for a lot of money or not entering the country.

The ICC is the world standard but since the US isn't a signatory to that treaty, none of our courses give us an ICC. Croatia specifically lists the ICC equivalent documents. 

https://www.croatia-yachting-charter.com/images/documents/acceptable-licences-sailing-croatia.pdf

Ostensibly it's for chartering, but I can attest that they apply the rule for entering on your own private vessel.

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: LLC or Corporate ownership of vessel

Scott SV Tengah
 

I was only asked for a cert of competency a handful of times. Croatia was the most stringent and I watched an American skipper kick and scream that his state's safety course should be accepted and how he has sailed all the way from the US, etc. 

He ended up having the choice between taking a course there for a lot of money or not entering the country.

The ICC is the world standard but since the US isn't a signatory to that treaty, none of our courses give us an ICC. Croatia specifically lists the ICC equivalent documents. 

https://www.croatia-yachting-charter.com/images/documents/acceptable-licences-sailing-croatia.pdf

Ostensibly it's for chartering, but I can attest that they apply the rule for entering on your own private vessel.

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: Shore - Generator Switch-over box on A54 #solution

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Hi Ruedi;

 

We are currently in the Med and, in my opinion,  Lithium is not a huge advantage in our cruising style here. Also our AGMs that we installed in 2018, have been working better than expected and almost as good as when installed new.

 

I believe that Lithium technology for yachts is in its infancy and the improvement curve fairly steep. Our plan is to convert to Lithium in about 2-3 years, before leaving the Med, so we can benefit from all the advancement in technology and safety.

 

Respectfully;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

Amel 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rudolf Waldispuehl via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 11:28 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Shore - Generator Switch-over box on A54 #solution

 

Hi Mohammad and Aty

 

Thank you for the drawing which helped me a lot. Exactly this page was not in my documentation. Don’t know why?

I found in the 220V Panel drawing K1- and K2-source referenced, but without any detail about K1 and K2. Now everything is very clear and you are absolutely right with the priorities.

 

  • When there is Power from the Generator, K1 is interrupting the Shore supply and switching to Generator with the K1 Relay.
  • When there is any Power from any K1 source (GE or Shore), K2 is active and the Inverter is not switched because K2 is keeping the Inverter 220V output unswitched (offline).
    • Even if the inverter is ON, it can’t deliver 220V to the panel, because K2 is ON as long as K1 delivers power.

 

This sound a bit complicated but it’s finally the priority GEN, Sore, Inverter as you said.

 

BTW: What is your Lithium Project doing? You have changed KOKOMO to Lithium meanwhile?

 

Thanks and fair winds

Ruedi & Sabina Waldispuehl

"SY WASABI"

Amel 54. #55

Currently in Estepona heading to Gibraltar

 

 

Von: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> im Auftrag von Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...>
Antworten an: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Datum: Donnerstag, 16.
September 2021 um 07:40
An: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Betreff: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Shore - Generator Switch-over box on A54 #solution

 

Hi Ruedi;

 

There are electrical schematics in the original AMEL operator’s manual in the Appendix section, that came with the yacht, that show how they are wired. Attached is the schematic for the K1-K2 switchover relays.

 

I believe K1 and K2 switch/relays make the selection of power source.  Power first  goes through K1 which selects the source between shore power and generator. I believe that generator has priority over shore power. Once this source is selected, it goes through K2, which selects between the output of K1 and the inverter, with the output of K1 having higher priority.

 

I am fairly certain that the priority is:

 

  1. Generator
  2. Shore power
  3. Inverter

 

Respectfully;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

Amel 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rudolf Waldispuehl via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 8:31 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Shore - Generator Switch-over box on A54 #solution

 

Hello Amelian's

 

I tried to find out how the Shore/Generator Switchover Box in the Engine room of my Amel-54 is exactly working. I do have in addition a 2500W MV inverter installed originally from AMEL. Last few weeks the Switch-over is doing strange things and fuses are blowing. 

 

I have not found any accurate information (drawings) electric scheme of that AMEL specific switch-over mechanism. I don’t know how it detects either one or all 3 of the 240V sources, and which is the master over-ruling the Generator or Shore and/or Inverter. How it protects the Inverter when Shore or Generator is running, etc… 
Does anyone out there have any detailed information how these system works and may have an Electric scheme with in dept knowledge how it works?

 

Thanks a lot for investigation and best regards
Ruedi Waldispuehl
WASABI 

WASABI A54. #55

E-MAIL: mail@...


Re: LLC or Corporate ownership of vessel

Mark Erdos
 

For “proof of competency” you can take a free Florida boating test online. At the end it prints out a very nice official looking certificate and they mail you a license (with no expiration date) https://www.boatus.org/florida/

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 


Re: Lithium Battery BMS

Dan Carlson
 

Hello Bob, I'm not at the boat right now. We head back to re-launch in two weeks so it will be pretty hectic until the beginning of Oct. I'll try to dig some things up when things calm down.

Daniel Carlson on sv BeBe, sm #387

On Wed, Sep 15, 2021, 3:17 PM rossirossix4 <rossidesigngroup@...> wrote:
Hi Daniel,
Really liked your description of your lithium conversion.  I am beginning the process of conversion and my plan is to install the WakeSpeed 500 first.  I saw one photo you posted of your setup with the  LN 175 altenator, but do you have any closeups or walk-throughs on the wiring or wiring diagrams?  I am also curious about your wiring back to the batteries and to your on/off switch at the helm.  
Bob     KAIMI SM429


Re: Shore - Generator Switch-over box on A54 #solution

Rudolf Waldispuehl
 

Hi Mohammad and Aty

 

Thank you for the drawing which helped me a lot. Exactly this page was not in my documentation. Don’t know why?

I found in the 220V Panel drawing K1- and K2-source referenced, but without any detail about K1 and K2. Now everything is very clear and you are absolutely right with the priorities.

 

  • When there is Power from the Generator, K1 is interrupting the Shore supply and switching to Generator with the K1 Relay.
  • When there is any Power from any K1 source (GE or Shore), K2 is active and the Inverter is not switched because K2 is keeping the Inverter 220V output unswitched (offline).
    • Even if the inverter is ON, it can’t deliver 220V to the panel, because K2 is ON as long as K1 delivers power.

 

This sound a bit complicated but it’s finally the priority GEN, Sore, Inverter as you said.

 

BTW: What is your Lithium Project doing? You have changed KOKOMO to Lithium meanwhile?

 

Thanks and fair winds

Ruedi & Sabina Waldispuehl

"SY WASABI"

Amel 54. #55

Currently in Estepona heading to Gibraltar

 

 

Von: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> im Auftrag von Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...>
Antworten an: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Datum: Donnerstag, 16.
September 2021 um 07:40
An: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Betreff: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Shore - Generator Switch-over box on A54 #solution

 

Hi Ruedi;

 

There are electrical schematics in the original AMEL operator’s manual in the Appendix section, that came with the yacht, that show how they are wired. Attached is the schematic for the K1-K2 switchover relays.

 

I believe K1 and K2 switch/relays make the selection of power source.  Power first  goes through K1 which selects the source between shore power and generator. I believe that generator has priority over shore power. Once this source is selected, it goes through K2, which selects between the output of K1 and the inverter, with the output of K1 having higher priority.

 

I am fairly certain that the priority is:

 

  1. Generator
  2. Shore power
  3. Inverter

 

Respectfully;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

Amel 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rudolf Waldispuehl via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 8:31 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Shore - Generator Switch-over box on A54 #solution

 

Hello Amelian's

 

I tried to find out how the Shore/Generator Switchover Box in the Engine room of my Amel-54 is exactly working. I do have in addition a 2500W MV inverter installed originally from AMEL. Last few weeks the Switch-over is doing strange things and fuses are blowing. 

 

I have not found any accurate information (drawings) electric scheme of that AMEL specific switch-over mechanism. I don’t know how it detects either one or all 3 of the 240V sources, and which is the master over-ruling the Generator or Shore and/or Inverter. How it protects the Inverter when Shore or Generator is running, etc… 
Does anyone out there have any detailed information how these system works and may have an Electric scheme with in dept knowledge how it works?

 

Thanks a lot for investigation and best regards
Ruedi Waldispuehl
WASABI 

WASABI A54. #55

E-MAIL: mail@...


Re: Wakespeed vs Alpha Pro Alternator Regulator

Chuck_Kim_Joy
 

Hi Barry and Penny,
Thanks for that. We look forward to seeing you. Just booked tickets. 

All the best,
Chuck and Kim 

On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 9:58 AM Barry Connor via groups.io <connor_barry=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi Chuck and Kim,
We are now using the WakeSpeed. Next to you on the dock. If you don’t have to make a decision before you get back you can actually look at the setup.
We are having our cockpit side windows and windscreens replaced after yours are finished.

Very Best 

Barry and Penny
“SV Lady Penelope II”
Amel 54.  #17
Le Marin Marina 
Martinique 


On Sep 15, 2021, at 11:22, Chuck_Kim_Joy <clacey9@...> wrote:

Hi All,
I am having some work done on the boat. A new victron charger put in and regulator in Le Marin by Caraibes Electric. I did a lot of reading on wakespeed (thanks Dan Carlson) but not much on Alpha Pro. Their preference for no other reason is Alpha Pro because they are a Mastervolt dealer. They will do either. Pro Cons? Either Or? Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks for your time. 

Chuck and Kim 
Joy 388
Le Marin Martinique 


Re: What to do with LiFePO4 batteries when the boat is layed up?

Joerg Esdorn
 

Thanks so much!  There are some excellent ideas here.  My thinking now - based on everyone's thoughts - is to do the following:

1.  Before I leave, charge the batteries to 80% and plug into shore power.  I will leave the batteries on so the bilge pump can run.
2.  Set the MV charger on shore power to a low bulk and absorption voltage - like 27V.  I can do this easily using the Masteradjust software which controls all settings for the Masterbus. I will experiment first what state of charge this will result in.  Should be close to 80%?
3.  Get a mobile hotspot that runs of 230V in the boat.  
3.  Have my laptop running both Masteradjust and Teamviewer connected to the hotspot.  The laptop is running off a 230V outlet.

Viola, with this setup I should be able to monitor the batteries and control the charger from my home in SFO while the boat is in La Rochelle!  So I will be able to charge to 100% every three months by changing the setting for the 60A charger.  I will also run a dehumidifier over the 230V outlets in the boat - Scott, presumably you didn't have shore power which is why you ran the dehumidifier over the inverter?  I had a dehumidifier running during the entire 18 months of Covid layup and it made a huge difference.  If there's something wrong with the 230V, I will know because I can't connect to the laptop.  Lastly, I will have a Netatmo security camera and a WIFI enabled water alarm in the engine room connected to the hotspot.  That way I will get emails if something moves inside the boat (and will be able to see video of the event) or the water goes above the alarm level in the engine room.   My boat watcher will not have to deal with the batteries  at all if all goes accordance with the plan!

Joerg Esdorn
A55 Kincsem
Currently in Ile d'Yeu, France


Re: Dessalator 160 Lift Pump

Mark & Debbie Mueller
 

On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 11:26 AM, Dominique Sery wrote:
Dominique
Thanks.
 
--
Mark Mueller
Brass Ring  A54


Re: Shore - Generator Switch-over box on A54 #solution

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Hi Ruedi;

 

There are electrical schematics in the original AMEL operator’s manual in the Appendix section, that came with the yacht, that show how they are wired. Attached is the schematic for the K1-K2 switchover relays.

 

I believe K1 and K2 switch/relays make the selection of power source.  Power first  goes through K1 which selects the source between shore power and generator. I believe that generator has priority over shore power. Once this source is selected, it goes through K2, which selects between the output of K1 and the inverter, with the output of K1 having higher priority.

 

I am fairly certain that the priority is:

 

  1. Generator
  2. Shore power
  3. Inverter

 

Respectfully;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

Amel 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rudolf Waldispuehl via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 8:31 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Shore - Generator Switch-over box on A54 #solution

 

Hello Amelian's

 

I tried to find out how the Shore/Generator Switchover Box in the Engine room of my Amel-54 is exactly working. I do have in addition a 2500W MV inverter installed originally from AMEL. Last few weeks the Switch-over is doing strange things and fuses are blowing. 

 

I have not found any accurate information (drawings) electric scheme of that AMEL specific switch-over mechanism. I don’t know how it detects either one or all 3 of the 240V sources, and which is the master over-ruling the Generator or Shore and/or Inverter. How it protects the Inverter when Shore or Generator is running, etc… 
Does anyone out there have any detailed information how these system works and may have an Electric scheme with in dept knowledge how it works?

 

Thanks a lot for investigation and best regards
Ruedi Waldispuehl
WASABI 

WASABI A54. #55

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Re: Lithium Battery BMS

rossirossix4
 

Hi Daniel,
Really liked your description of your lithium conversion.  I am beginning the process of conversion and my plan is to install the WakeSpeed 500 first.  I saw one photo you posted of your setup with the  LN 175 altenator, but do you have any closeups or walk-throughs on the wiring or wiring diagrams?  I am also curious about your wiring back to the batteries and to your on/off switch at the helm.  
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Re: tb/Starboard LEWMAR winch July 2009 AMEL 54 # 128/AYOF

 

Unless yours is different from others I have seen it is V5.
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On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 1:33 PM Teun BAAS <teun@...> wrote:

Good Morning,

 

Can another AMEL 54 owner in the same build number (# 128; launched July 2009) range tell me is your Starboard LEWMAR Anchor winch a LEWMAR V4 or LEWMAR V5. I do know that AMEL manual mentions it is the 2000 watts motor but I cannot determine what LEWMAR version.

 

I need to replace the motor & gearbox and want to make sure I am getting the correct one ordered & shipped.

 

Thank you.

 

Best Regards Teun

SV AMELIT  A54  #128

 

HOPE ISLAND MARINA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA

September 15, 2021 11:26:58

 

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tb/Starboard LEWMAR winch July 2009 AMEL 54 # 128/AYOF

Teun BAAS
 

Good Morning,

 

Can another AMEL 54 owner in the same build number (# 128; launched July 2009) range tell me is your Starboard LEWMAR Anchor winch a LEWMAR V4 or LEWMAR V5. I do know that AMEL manual mentions it is the 2000 watts motor but I cannot determine what LEWMAR version.

 

I need to replace the motor & gearbox and want to make sure I am getting the correct one ordered & shipped.

 

Thank you.

 

Best Regards Teun

SV AMELIT  A54  #128

 

HOPE ISLAND MARINA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA

September 15, 2021 11:26:58

 

You can follow AMELIT via this link: https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/display/AMELIT

 

 


Shore - Generator Switch-over box on A54 #solution

Rudolf Waldispuehl
 

Hello Amelian's

 

I tried to find out how the Shore/Generator Switchover Box in the Engine room of my Amel-54 is exactly working. I do have in addition a 2500W MV inverter installed originally from AMEL. Last few weeks the Switch-over is doing strange things and fuses are blowing. 

 

I have not found any accurate information (drawings) electric scheme of that AMEL specific switch-over mechanism. I don’t know how it detects either one or all 3 of the 240V sources, and which is the master over-ruling the Generator or Shore and/or Inverter. How it protects the Inverter when Shore or Generator is running, etc… 
Does anyone out there have any detailed information how these system works and may have an Electric scheme with in dept knowledge how it works?

 

Thanks a lot for investigation and best regards
Ruedi Waldispuehl
WASABI 

WASABI A54. #55

E-MAIL: mail@...

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