Date   

Re: Hydraulic hose specs- ZF 25 2.8 to Bowman DC60XCC

 

I am fairly certain the fitting is the same fitting Dessalator uses which is JIC. The size is 3/8 inch. This is a common fitting. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse 
Amel Owners Yacht School
+1 832-380-4970 | brouse@...
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com 
Yacht School Calendar: www.preparetocastoff.blogspot.com/p/calendar.html


   

On Fri, Sep 17, 2021, 7:23 PM Bill Kinney <cruisingconsulting@...> wrote:
Tom,

I’d go with the local hydraulic guy.  We have had good luck with them everywhere we have traveled and needed the service.  Hydraulics are really common on boats and equipment of all kinds, and the tools to make custom hoses are everywhere.

Bill Kinney
Sm160, Harmonie
Annapolis, MD, USA


Re: Hydraulic hose specs- ZF 25 2.8 to Bowman DC60XCC

Bill Kinney
 

Tom,

I’d go with the local hydraulic guy.  We have had good luck with them everywhere we have traveled and needed the service.  Hydraulics are really common on boats and equipment of all kinds, and the tools to make custom hoses are everywhere.

Bill Kinney
Sm160, Harmonie
Annapolis, MD, USA


Re: LLC or Corporate ownership of vessel

Doug Smith
 

Similar to ASA, I able to use the US Sailing bareboat chartering course from 2007 and US sailing then issued the International Certificate of Competency when I sent them $25 in 2018. You have to be a US Sailing member but they will then send you the ICC merit badge. It is good for 5 years so they can keep their membership.

Thanks, Doug Smith

Amel 54-113, Aventura
White Point Marina
Kinsale VA, USA
Dugsmith98@...

On Sep 17, 2021, at 3:53 AM, Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...> wrote:



We ran into this issue in Montenegro. The harbor master was unwilling to allow us to “navigate” from the customs dock to our winter berth (about 500 yards away). None of our ASA sailing and US sailing certifications were acceptable. We spent a couple of hours in the harbor master’s office, while she looked on the internet, trying to figure out what the certificates were. It took our agent from Porto Montenegro almost an hour to get the hesitant approval. We were told that when we come back, the next season, if we do not have “something”  like the ICC, we would not be allowed to leave the Marina. Another friend on an Amel that was starting his second circumnavigation, ran into the same issue. They ere not interested in hearing how many times he had circled the globe.

 

ASA now has a certificate that they can  issue to all members that have a  bare boat chartering certificate. I believe it costs $25 and they mail out. It looks very official and have been accepted in Montenegro and Croatia, at least so far.

 

Respectfully;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

Amel 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Scott SV Tengah via groups.io
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2021 9:37 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] LLC or Corporate ownership of vessel

 

I was only asked for a cert of competency a handful of times. Croatia was the most stringent and I watched an American skipper kick and scream that his state's safety course should be accepted and how he has sailed all the way from the US, etc. 

He ended up having the choice between taking a course there for a lot of money or not entering the country.

The ICC is the world standard but since the US isn't a signatory to that treaty, none of our courses give us an ICC. Croatia specifically lists the ICC equivalent documents. 

https://www.croatia-yachting-charter.com/images/documents/acceptable-licences-sailing-croatia.pdf

Ostensibly it's for chartering, but I can attest that they apply the rule for entering on your own private vessel.

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Hydraulic hose specs- ZF 25 2.8 to Bowman DC60XCC

Thomas Kleman
 

Im looking to get spare hydraulic hoses for my new trans oil cooler. Both the trans and the oil cooler have fittings allowing for a hose with 2 female ends which I think might be 3/8 inch BSPP. As I attempted to order online I was overwhelmed by the 30 or so different end fittings available. Does anyone know the precise spec for this hose ?

Plan B is to take the hose to a local French hydraulics guy but that makes me nervous.

Tom and Kirstin
SM2K 422
SV L'ORIENT
Papeete, Tahiti


Re: Lithium Battery BMS

Nick Newington
 

Paul,

You nailed it. Keep it simple. You need to think about the next owner…he/she needs to be able to open the manual and go.

Nick
Amelia
AML 54-019

Leros Gr

On 17 Sep 2021, at 17:54, Paul Harries via groups.io <Pharries@...> wrote:

As a potential Amel buyer the complexity of some of the Li installations scares me. My question when evaluating such systems is a simple one, "could my wife handle the system on her own? As I well  recall the difficulty my wife had programming a vcr!

The limiting factor that I see at present is that companies like Victron only make their BMS available with their batteries. As a result battery prices for the likes of Victron are inflated.

The future in my opinion lies with an external BMS integrated with battery charging and power source switch over, such a system should run on it's own without the need for owner input other than programming due to system changes. Failover with integrated bms redundancy is also a consideration..

I think it is important to remember how Bill classifies boat value, with increase in complexity of electrical systems boat value drops.

In summary while I am full of admiration for those who have installed complex multi vendor diy Li systems, I would be unlikely to buy their boats.


--
Paul Harries
Prospective Amel Buyer


Re: Lithium Battery BMS

Paul Harries
 

As a potential Amel buyer the complexity of some of the Li installations scares me. My question when evaluating such systems is a simple one, "could my wife handle the system on her own? As I well  recall the difficulty my wife had programming a vcr!

The limiting factor that I see at present is that companies like Victron only make their BMS available with their batteries. As a result battery prices for the likes of Victron are inflated.

The future in my opinion lies with an external BMS integrated with battery charging and power source switch over, such a system should run on it's own without the need for owner input other than programming due to system changes. Failover with integrated bms redundancy is also a consideration..

I think it is important to remember how Bill classifies boat value, with increase in complexity of electrical systems boat value drops.

In summary while I am full of admiration for those who have installed complex multi vendor diy Li systems, I would be unlikely to buy their boats.


--
Paul Harries
Prospective Amel Buyer


Re: Wakespeed vs Alpha Pro Alternator Regulator

Jason Rutledge
 

Barry,

Could you post some pictures of your setup?  I've also been researching this.
--
Jason Rutledge
SV Liahona
SM 335
Puerto Rico


Re: Volvo D3-110 Sensor - Spare Sensor Sets

Arno Luijten
 
Edited

Dear Forum,

Following the good work from WASABI I did some further digging into this sensor matter.

The isolated oil sensor is no longer supplied by Volvo Penta. However it is a standard sensor for Volvo Trucks and can be ordered via any Volvo Truck service center.
Volvo Penta and Volvo Trucks are very much different in their logistic channel even though they co-operate to some level at the top.

The list that WASABI received via GWEN is not completely correct, I'm guessing because of translation problems.

This is the the list I have compiled so far (for the VP D3-110iC):

31331765 TDC Sensor (On flywheel)
8653103 Coolant sensor
8658726 Sensor on top of engine. (Camshaft sensor)
3884352 Fuel pressure sender
30731748 Solenoid on fuel pump (Magnetically controlled proportional valve)
873959 Emergency stop knob (According to Scott from Tengah this button ages badly)
 
And then of course the oil pressure switch
8151889 Isolated oil pressure sensor (Supplied via Volvo Trucks)
Alternatively you can also buy it from ALIEXPRESS at much lower cost: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001495291029.html

And the Turbo Boost sensor that can be bought much cheaper as the original Bosch part. See for example here
https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/land-rover-manifold-absolute-pressure-sensor-0261230295

The list from WASABI also contains an over-pressure valve for the fuel rail but that is a purely mechanical safety device not likely to fail.

I also have enclosed a drawing of the actual oil pressure switch that I received from my VP dealer in the Netherlands


I hope this will be of some benefit to other owners

regards,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121


LED under cabinet lighting

Patrick McAneny
 

I would like to add a string of color changing LED lights under the galley cabinets and white LEDs in the engine room. What I see are 24v , but they have a A/C to D/C converter. I would like to wire them direct into our 24v system. Has anyone cut the wire off the converter and wired the LEDs via a fuse directly to the 24 system? Does the color changing unit still function with the remote?
Thanks,
Pat
SM Shenanigans


Re: Lithium Battery BMS

Juan de Zulueta
 

Willem,

Thanks for the input.
What make of batteries did you buy?

Juan de Zulueta
+33680895892
sent from my Ipad.

Le 17 sept. 2021 à 14:22, Willem Kroes <kavanga@...> a écrit :

Hi, Juan,

To add to the very useful suggestions you already received, this one: a very cheap and easy-to-install alternator protection device from Sterling (Alternator Protection Device – Sterling Power Products (sterling-power.com ).
I bought 4 x 100 Ah Iron phosphate batteries in 2017. Installed the Sterling device, bought an external Mastervolt Alpha Pro regulator programmed to meet the requirements of the batteries (also with a temperature sensor with a hose clamp fitted on the alternator casing, connected to the Alpha Pro. I also reprogrammed my Mastervolt charger 24 V 60 Amps.
Since this, I found myself in battery heaven instead of a battery hell.
Good luck!

Willem Kroes
SM #351 Kavanga

now in Licata on Sicily

--
Juan de Zulueta
OPHELIE X
Super Maramu #32


Re: Lithium Battery BMS

Willem Kroes
 

Hi, Juan,

To add to the very useful suggestions you already received, this one: a very cheap and easy-to-install alternator protection device from Sterling (Alternator Protection Device – Sterling Power Products (sterling-power.com ).
I bought 4 x 100 Ah Iron phosphate batteries in 2017. Installed the Sterling device, bought an external Mastervolt Alpha Pro regulator programmed to meet the requirements of the batteries (also with a temperature sensor with a hose clamp fitted on the alternator casing, connected to the Alpha Pro. I also reprogrammed my Mastervolt charger 24 V 60 Amps.
Since this, I found myself in battery heaven instead of a battery hell.
Good luck!

Willem Kroes
SM #351 Kavanga

now in Licata on Sicily


Re: Shore - Generator Switch-over box on A54 #solution

Ian Fraser
 

Mohammad,

Thank you for your insights on Lithium. We are in a similar situation and agree that Lithium is too early for us.

Will really appreciate your guidance on best solutions for changes to LN175 alternator (and Dolphin 100A Charger) when upgrading to 8AGM 105Ahr on AMEL54 #009.

Regards,

Ian Fraser
Dreamtime.   

On 17 Sep 2021, at 03:27, Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...> wrote:

Hi Ruedi;
 
We are currently in the Med and, in my opinion,  Lithium is not a huge advantage in our cruising style here. Also our AGMs that we installed in 2018, have been working better than expected and almost as good as when installed new.
 
I believe that Lithium technology for yachts is in its infancy and the improvement curve fairly steep. Our plan is to convert to Lithium in about 2-3 years, before leaving the Med, so we can benefit from all the advancement in technology and safety. 
 
Respectfully;
 
 
Mohammad and Aty
B&B Kokomo
Amel 54 #099
 
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rudolf Waldispuehl via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 11:28 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Shore - Generator Switch-over box on A54 #solution
 
Hi Mohammad and Aty
 
Thank you for the drawing which helped me a lot. Exactly this page was not in my documentation. Don’t know why?
I found in the 220V Panel drawing K1- and K2-source referenced, but without any detail about K1 and K2. Now everything is very clear and you are absolutely right with the priorities.
 
  • When there is Power from the Generator, K1 is interrupting the Shore supply and switching to Generator with the K1 Relay.
  • When there is any Power from any K1 source (GE or Shore), K2 is active and the Inverter is not switched because K2 is keeping the Inverter 220V output unswitched (offline).
    • Even if the inverter is ON, it can’t deliver 220V to the panel, because K2 is ON as long as K1 delivers power.
 
This sound a bit complicated but it’s finally the priority GEN, Sore, Inverter as you said.
 
BTW: What is your Lithium Project doing? You have changed KOKOMO to Lithium meanwhile?
 
Thanks and fair winds
Ruedi & Sabina Waldispuehl
"SY WASABI"
Amel 54. #55
Currently in Estepona heading to Gibraltar
 
 
Von: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> im Auftrag von Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...>
Antworten an: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Datum: Donnerstag, 16. 
September 2021 um 07:40
An: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Betreff: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Shore - Generator Switch-over box on A54 #solution
 
Hi Ruedi;
 
There are electrical schematics in the original AMEL operator’s manual in the Appendix section, that came with the yacht, that show how they are wired. Attached is the schematic for the K1-K2 switchover relays.
 
I believe K1 and K2 switch/relays make the selection of power source.  Power first  goes through K1 which selects the source between shore power and generator. I believe that generator has priority over shore power. Once this source is selected, it goes through K2, which selects between the output of K1 and the inverter, with the output of K1 having higher priority.
 
I am fairly certain that the priority is: 
 
  1. Generator
  2. Shore power
  3. Inverter
 
Respectfully;
 
 
Mohammad and Aty
B&B Kokomo
Amel 54 #099
 
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rudolf Waldispuehl via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 8:31 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Shore - Generator Switch-over box on A54 #solution
 

Hello Amelian's

 
I tried to find out how the Shore/Generator Switchover Box in the Engine room of my Amel-54 is exactly working. I do have in addition a 2500W MV inverter installed originally from AMEL. Last few weeks the Switch-over is doing strange things and fuses are blowing. 
 
I have not found any accurate information (drawings) electric scheme of that AMEL specific switch-over mechanism. I don’t know how it detects either one or all 3 of the 240V sources, and which is the master over-ruling the Generator or Shore and/or Inverter. How it protects the Inverter when Shore or Generator is running, etc… 
Does anyone out there have any detailed information how these system works and may have an Electric scheme with in dept knowledge how it works?
 
Thanks a lot for investigation and best regards
Ruedi Waldispuehl
WASABI 
WASABI A54. #55
E-MAIL: mail@...



Re: Lithium Battery BMS

Dominique Sery
 

Scott, sorry for the late reply.  The easiest way for Victron Battery Protect is to install it at the entrance to the 24 volt switchboard in the locker above the kitchen sink.  All circuits controlled by the 24v board will be activated (or deactivated) by the Ve-bms.  In particular the “cockpit controls”.  There remain the navigation instruments which require another BP (small model) at the chart table, to be installed on the connection panel under the hull port, which is very easy to access.  

For your passerelle i think that the control is drive by the « cockpit controls » as the bowtruster, the winchs..
The other, more difficult solution is to separate the cables at the circuit breakers in the locker next to the engine battery.  It's a little more annoying because you have to install the bus bars and redo all the connections, some wires being soldered together and you have to separate the inputs (chargers - alternator) and the outputs (high powers - low powers)
Dominique


Re: LLC or Corporate ownership of vessel

James Watkins
 

Maybe I got lucky with the port I was in.  Novigrad is only open during the season but I worked fine and I got the required permit to sail Croatian waters.

 

Best Regards

Jim Watkins

Act II  Maramu hull 185

 

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From: Mark Erdos
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2021 9:14 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] LLC or Corporate ownership of vessel

 

For “proof of competency” you can take a free Florida boating test online. At the end it prints out a very nice official looking certificate and they mail you a license (with no expiration date) https://www.boatus.org/florida/

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 

 


Re: What to do with LiFePO4 batteries when the boat is layed up?

Sv Garulfo
 


Hi all,

With MV you can define events that are based on the SOC, at either predefined levels (60%, 80%, etc) or a user defined level called “battery full”, and can be used to trigger actions on other components on the network, for instance switching on/off the inverter, switching charging elements to float   (or off), etc. 

Hope that’ll help

Thomas 
GARULFO
A54-122
Tahiti 


On 17 Sep 2021, at 10:11, Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...> wrote:

Joerg,

I would be surprised if the MV software doesn't allow you to stop charging at a certain SOC vs having to guess with voltage. I can implement that on my less well integrated Victron system. Again, ask Garulfo as I believe they said it was simple to do so.

With respect to ideal SOC for storage, Victron delivers their batteries around 50% SOC, so that might suggest something. There's literature out there on how to prolong lithium batteries, but it's generally for more sensitive / explosive cobalt based batteries, but the consensus is 50-60%, matching Victron's SOC at delivery.

And correct, I don't leave the boat on shore power, even when it's available. The solar is far more than enough during storage periods and I don't risk bad wiring at the marina eating up my zincs and then my through hulls. Note that I don't have an isolation transformer or even a galvanic isolator. Was considering installing it but I find we're rarely at marinas and even if we're at one and aboard, I often don't bother plugging in.

What I like about setting the inverter to run above 60% is that my solar is more than enough to put in more power than the dehumidifier can draw. That, in effect, causes the battery to fill to 100% every few days, at minimum, but even if it's taken to 100% by the time the sun sets, the dehumidifier will draw down the batteries overnight so they don't sit at full for very long. And even if it's drawn down to 60%, there's plenty of capacity remaining to run the bilge pump for a long time before the sun rises again.


--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: What to do with LiFePO4 batteries when the boat is layed up?

Scott SV Tengah
 

Joerg,

I would be surprised if the MV software doesn't allow you to stop charging at a certain SOC vs having to guess with voltage. I can implement that on my less well integrated Victron system. Again, ask Garulfo as I believe they said it was simple to do so.

With respect to ideal SOC for storage, Victron delivers their batteries around 50% SOC, so that might suggest something. There's literature out there on how to prolong lithium batteries, but it's generally for more sensitive / explosive cobalt based batteries, but the consensus is 50-60%, matching Victron's SOC at delivery.

And correct, I don't leave the boat on shore power, even when it's available. The solar is far more than enough during storage periods and I don't risk bad wiring at the marina eating up my zincs and then my through hulls. Note that I don't have an isolation transformer or even a galvanic isolator. Was considering installing it but I find we're rarely at marinas and even if we're at one and aboard, I often don't bother plugging in.

What I like about setting the inverter to run above 60% is that my solar is more than enough to put in more power than the dehumidifier can draw. That, in effect, causes the battery to fill to 100% every few days, at minimum, but even if it's taken to 100% by the time the sun sets, the dehumidifier will draw down the batteries overnight so they don't sit at full for very long. And even if it's drawn down to 60%, there's plenty of capacity remaining to run the bilge pump for a long time before the sun rises again.


--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: LLC or Corporate ownership of vessel

James Watkins
 

I have one of these and it works great but have only used it in Croatia.  

 

Best Regards

Jim Watkins

Act II Maramu hull 185

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Mark Erdos
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2021 9:14 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] LLC or Corporate ownership of vessel

 

For “proof of competency” you can take a free Florida boating test online. At the end it prints out a very nice official looking certificate and they mail you a license (with no expiration date) https://www.boatus.org/florida/

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 

 


Re: Shore - Generator Switch-over box on A54 #solution

Nick Newington
 

Hi Mohammad and Ruedi,

I agree with you Mohammad. Prices will fall, insurers will become more comfortable. Lithium will replace lead acid, but it will take time, probably only a couple more years. 
On “Amelia" I bought “Lifeline” AGM’s in Grenada when I bought the boat in 2017 at considerable expense. I also installed solar and wind. The batteries have never been discharged below 60% and generally get back to 100% a lot of the time. I am hoping for many more years of use, especially as I only sail half time. The rest of the time the solar keeps them 100%.

As and when they start to die I will replace them with Lithium, but I am still not comfortable with the complexities in particular leaving the boat ashore unattended for prolonged periods. I am also not comfortable with being entirely dependent on an electronic BMS in far off remote places. The kind of places that I like to dream of exploring.

Nick

S/Y Amelia 
AML 54-019
Leros Gr

On 17 Sep 2021, at 08:27, Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...> wrote:

Hi Ruedi;
 
We are currently in the Med and, in my opinion,  Lithium is not a huge advantage in our cruising style here. Also our AGMs that we installed in 2018, have been working better than expected and almost as good as when installed new.
 
I believe that Lithium technology for yachts is in its infancy and the improvement curve fairly steep. Our plan is to convert to Lithium in about 2-3 years, before leaving the Med, so we can benefit from all the advancement in technology and safety. 
 
Respectfully;
 
 
Mohammad and Aty
B&B Kokomo
Amel 54 #099
 
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rudolf Waldispuehl via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 11:28 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Shore - Generator Switch-over box on A54 #solution
 
Hi Mohammad and Aty
 
Thank you for the drawing which helped me a lot. Exactly this page was not in my documentation. Don’t know why?
I found in the 220V Panel drawing K1- and K2-source referenced, but without any detail about K1 and K2. Now everything is very clear and you are absolutely right with the priorities.
 
  • When there is Power from the Generator, K1 is interrupting the Shore supply and switching to Generator with the K1 Relay.
  • When there is any Power from any K1 source (GE or Shore), K2 is active and the Inverter is not switched because K2 is keeping the Inverter 220V output unswitched (offline).
    • Even if the inverter is ON, it can’t deliver 220V to the panel, because K2 is ON as long as K1 delivers power.
 
This sound a bit complicated but it’s finally the priority GEN, Sore, Inverter as you said.
 
BTW: What is your Lithium Project doing? You have changed KOKOMO to Lithium meanwhile?
 
Thanks and fair winds
Ruedi & Sabina Waldispuehl
"SY WASABI"
Amel 54. #55
Currently in Estepona heading to Gibraltar
 
 
Von: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> im Auftrag von Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...>
Antworten an: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Datum: Donnerstag, 16. 
September 2021 um 07:40
An: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Betreff: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Shore - Generator Switch-over box on A54 #solution
 
Hi Ruedi;
 
There are electrical schematics in the original AMEL operator’s manual in the Appendix section, that came with the yacht, that show how they are wired. Attached is the schematic for the K1-K2 switchover relays.
 
I believe K1 and K2 switch/relays make the selection of power source.  Power first  goes through K1 which selects the source between shore power and generator. I believe that generator has priority over shore power. Once this source is selected, it goes through K2, which selects between the output of K1 and the inverter, with the output of K1 having higher priority.
 
I am fairly certain that the priority is: 
 
  1. Generator
  2. Shore power
  3. Inverter
 
Respectfully;
 
 
Mohammad and Aty
B&B Kokomo
Amel 54 #099
 
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rudolf Waldispuehl via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 8:31 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Shore - Generator Switch-over box on A54 #solution
 

Hello Amelian's

 
I tried to find out how the Shore/Generator Switchover Box in the Engine room of my Amel-54 is exactly working. I do have in addition a 2500W MV inverter installed originally from AMEL. Last few weeks the Switch-over is doing strange things and fuses are blowing. 
 
I have not found any accurate information (drawings) electric scheme of that AMEL specific switch-over mechanism. I don’t know how it detects either one or all 3 of the 240V sources, and which is the master over-ruling the Generator or Shore and/or Inverter. How it protects the Inverter when Shore or Generator is running, etc… 
Does anyone out there have any detailed information how these system works and may have an Electric scheme with in dept knowledge how it works?
 
Thanks a lot for investigation and best regards
Ruedi Waldispuehl
WASABI 
WASABI A54. #55
E-MAIL: mail@...



Re: LLC or Corporate ownership of vessel

Mohammad Shirloo
 

We ran into this issue in Montenegro. The harbor master was unwilling to allow us to “navigate” from the customs dock to our winter berth (about 500 yards away). None of our ASA sailing and US sailing certifications were acceptable. We spent a couple of hours in the harbor master’s office, while she looked on the internet, trying to figure out what the certificates were. It took our agent from Porto Montenegro almost an hour to get the hesitant approval. We were told that when we come back, the next season, if we do not have “something”  like the ICC, we would not be allowed to leave the Marina. Another friend on an Amel that was starting his second circumnavigation, ran into the same issue. They ere not interested in hearing how many times he had circled the globe.

 

ASA now has a certificate that they can  issue to all members that have a  bare boat chartering certificate. I believe it costs $25 and they mail out. It looks very official and have been accepted in Montenegro and Croatia, at least so far.

 

Respectfully;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

Amel 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Scott SV Tengah via groups.io
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2021 9:37 AM
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Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] LLC or Corporate ownership of vessel

 

I was only asked for a cert of competency a handful of times. Croatia was the most stringent and I watched an American skipper kick and scream that his state's safety course should be accepted and how he has sailed all the way from the US, etc. 

He ended up having the choice between taking a course there for a lot of money or not entering the country.

The ICC is the world standard but since the US isn't a signatory to that treaty, none of our courses give us an ICC. Croatia specifically lists the ICC equivalent documents. 

https://www.croatia-yachting-charter.com/images/documents/acceptable-licences-sailing-croatia.pdf

Ostensibly it's for chartering, but I can attest that they apply the rule for entering on your own private vessel.

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Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: LLC or Corporate ownership of vessel

Scott SV Tengah
 

I was only asked for a cert of competency a handful of times. Croatia was the most stringent and I watched an American skipper kick and scream that his state's safety course should be accepted and how he has sailed all the way from the US, etc. 

He ended up having the choice between taking a course there for a lot of money or not entering the country.

The ICC is the world standard but since the US isn't a signatory to that treaty, none of our courses give us an ICC. Croatia specifically lists the ICC equivalent documents. 

https://www.croatia-yachting-charter.com/images/documents/acceptable-licences-sailing-croatia.pdf

Ostensibly it's for chartering, but I can attest that they apply the rule for entering on your own private vessel.

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com

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