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Wiring in the hard dodger

Mr D
 

Hey troops, has anyone installed either a VHF antenna or GPS antenna at the dodger on a Sharki or similar vessel? I know its hollow inside, but not how hollow it is. My thinking is to install 2 GPS receivers on top of the dodger and 2 VHF antennas on the sides, just missing the boom, then run wiring inside the dodger. Is this plausible? I am trying to install both AI50 AIS and VHF Chart plotter at the steering location - if anyone done either before? I'd like to know how you did it. Thank You.


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jlm@jlmertz.fr
 

The new AMEL is now the "AMEL 64" !

Can you modify the description of this group as follow :

"A place in cyberspace where owners of yachts built by Chantiers Amel in La Rochelle, France (Kirk, Super Mistral Sport, Meltem, Fango, L'Euros, Mango, Maramu, Sharki, Santorin, Super Maramu, Amel 54 and the new Amel 64) can share information on all matters concerning their vessels. Membership is restricted--to join you'll need to include an email address that the Amel Yacht Owners Group moderator can respond to. Please follow directions to 'sign in', or send an email to: amelyachtowners-owner@yahoogroups.com"

jluc mertz
CottonBay
sm316


Re: Retiring Soon, Looking for a Pre-Owned Amel

timandsusanallen <timandsusanallen@...>
 

Fantastic! Thanks, Bill.

Susan

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "svbebe" <yahoogroups@...> wrote:

There is an Amel Super Maramu in NC. The owner has well cared for her.

He was part of this group, but I have not seen him post anything in some time. You can contact the owner at agav8ter"at"yahoo.com

I found his Amel at http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1999/Amel-Millennium-2000-Super-Maramu-2078128/Wilmington/NC/United-States

Also, it goes without saying that the absolute expert in the US on Amels is Joel Potter...you are talking to the right person.


Hope this helps.

Best,


Bill
s/v BeBe, SM2, #387
currently Malaysia

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "timandsusanallen" <timandsusanallen@> wrote:

WOW! We are about to create a new reality! Retiring and sailing aboard a beautiful sailboat. An Amel is an obvious choice. If you know of anyone looking to sell their Amel, please let us know. Also, any advice you have for first time buyers would be appreciated.


SM 2001 for sale

BM2 <bluemarinemartin@...>
 

1st. Owner
Very Good Condition ; ready to sail.
Engine Volvo 2500 H.

Equipment (beyond standard):

AMEL Options : Watermaker 220 / 24 V. 60 L./H.
Inverter 1200 W.
3rd Fridge / Deep Freezer
Interphase forward sounder (sonar).
2nd motor for pilot + Girocompass.
Shaft Alternator
Anti-intrusion Alarm + Stainless steel door
King size double bed (1.5 M.) +cupboard
Black Waters Tanks
Complete Cover of Cockpit

Other: Sails by Worldwide leading international sailmakers: Northsail, Doyle, Quantum
Asymetrical spinaker with sock + storm Gib.
4 Anchors + 300 M. Rope
3.5 M. hard bottom Hypalon inflatable dinghy + 15 H.P. + 3.3 HP outboards.
100 A. Mastervolt Charger + 35 A. Dolfin
220 W. Solar Pannels
Shaft Alternator
660 Ah Trojan Golf Cart Service battery Bank (24 V.)
Diving Compressor Bauer
2 Diving Tanks + Complete gear
2 Foldable Canoes
SSB HF Radio + Pactor Modem + AIS Receiver
Maxsea Software
Comfortable Chart Table Seat
Numerous complementary storage arrangment
Numerous Spare Parts
Dishes .../ Spare parts / 2 bicycles / Around the World Nautical Guide Books....
Very well regularly maintained
Presently in Red Sea.
Full Specs and pictures on request at
bluemarinemartin@gmail.com
2009-12-15


Re: Retiring Soon, Looking for a Pre-Owned Amel

svbebe <yahoogroups@...>
 

There is an Amel Super Maramu in NC. The owner has well cared for her.

He was part of this group, but I have not seen him post anything in some time. You can contact the owner at agav8ter"at"yahoo.com

I found his Amel at http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1999/Amel-Millennium-2000-Super-Maramu-2078128/Wilmington/NC/United-States

Also, it goes without saying that the absolute expert in the US on Amels is Joel Potter...you are talking to the right person.


Hope this helps.

Best,


Bill
s/v BeBe, SM2, #387
currently Malaysia

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "timandsusanallen" <timandsusanallen@...> wrote:

WOW! We are about to create a new reality! Retiring and sailing aboard a beautiful sailboat. An Amel is an obvious choice. If you know of anyone looking to sell their Amel, please let us know. Also, any advice you have for first time buyers would be appreciated.


[Amel] Re: Retiring Soon, Looking for a Pre-Owned Amel

timandsusanallen <timandsusanallen@...>
 

Thank you all for your help! I'm in touch with Joel Potter, an Amel broker in Florida. Hopefully his expertise in proper valuations will help us gain the proper insight on pricing and quality.
Dream it. Plan It. Do It!
Yippee!
Susan

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Richard Piller <richard03801@...> wrote:

Tim, I don't what your plans are once you get your Amel. Keep in mind that there are VATaxes in Europe that run from about 13% in the Azores or about 20% of the boat value in other areas. And the sales tax in the State you buy it does make a difference.
The Yacht World site is a good one if not to buy at least get a good idea as to what is out there and for how much.
Best of Luck and welcome to the Amel family.
Richard and Joan Challenge SM 209




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From: timandsusanallen <timandsusanallen@...>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, December 14, 2009 1:57:36 AM
Subject: [Amel] Re: Retiring Soon, Looking for a Pre-Owned Amel




We're in Dallas. Found a few in the U.S.; 2000 Nike in Florida.

--- In amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com, "Paul" <aebersoldp@ ...> wrote:





--- In amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com, "timandsusanallen" <timandsusanallen@ > wrote:

WOW! We are about to create a new reality! Retiring and sailing aboard a beautiful sailboat. An Amel is an obvious choice. If you know of anyone looking to sell their Amel, please let us know. Also, any advice you have for first time buyers would be appreciated.
AMEL is the best you can buy. You can find AMEL boats in differnt places. Where are you located?






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Re: [Amel] Re: Retiring Soon, Looking for a Pre-Owned Amel

Richard Piller <richard03801@...>
 

Tim, I don't what your plans are once you get your Amel. Keep in mind that there are VATaxes in Europe that run from about 13% in the Azores or about 20% of the boat value in other areas. And the sales tax in the State you buy it does make a difference.
The Yacht World site is a good one if not to buy at least get a good idea as to what is out there and for how much.
Best of Luck and welcome to the Amel family.
Richard and Joan Challenge SM 209




________________________________
From: timandsusanallen <timandsusanallen@yahoo.com>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, December 14, 2009 1:57:36 AM
Subject: [Amel] Re: Retiring Soon, Looking for a Pre-Owned Amel




We're in Dallas. Found a few in the U.S.; 2000 Nike in Florida.

--- In amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com, "Paul" <aebersoldp@ ...> wrote:





--- In amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com, "timandsusanallen" <timandsusanallen@ > wrote:

WOW! We are about to create a new reality! Retiring and sailing aboard a beautiful sailboat. An Amel is an obvious choice. If you know of anyone looking to sell their Amel, please let us know. Also, any advice you have for first time buyers would be appreciated.
AMEL is the best you can buy. You can find AMEL boats in differnt places. Where are you located?






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Re: [Amel] Type of metal for retaining pin

Eric Lindholm <etlindholm@...>
 

I have used stainless for the pin for over 40 years with no problems. In fact I have never seen any other material used or recomend. Eric maramu 105




________________________________
From: sv Sangaris <sangaris@aol.com>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, December 14, 2009 9:10:41 AM
Subject: [Amel] Type of metal for retaining pin

 
This question was asked by Kent Robertson:
"I'll have to ask the yard what kind of pin they used (as a safety retainer for the prop nut). The shaft is SS, and the prop is bronze. What should the pin be made of?" .....

The only answer posted was this one:
"Kent, I would suggest that you use a Brass pin to hold the nut, or depending on the size a wire tie."

Kent, I'd strongly recommend you do not use Brass. Since the purpose is to be sure the nut doesn't fall off, you need to use either stainless or the plastic wire tie (I use stainless seizing wire.) Same reason one never uses brass in any thru-hull assembly - it is the least "noble" metal amoungst stainless, bronze and brass and will corrode away quickly, much like a sacrificial zinc (brass being copper and zinc, bronze being copper and tin), leaving you with just the single retaining nut that you were uncomfortable with in the first place.

The memory jogger I always use is "Brass - my ass!"

Cheers, Craig




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Type of metal for retaining pin

Craig Briggs
 

This question was asked by Kent Robertson:
"I'll have to ask the yard what kind of pin they used (as a safety retainer for the prop nut). The shaft is SS, and the prop is bronze. What should the pin be made of?" .....

The only answer posted was this one:
"Kent, I would suggest that you use a Brass pin to hold the nut, or depending on the size a wire tie."

Kent, I'd strongly recommend you do not use Brass. Since the purpose is to be sure the nut doesn't fall off, you need to use either stainless or the plastic wire tie (I use stainless seizing wire.) Same reason one never uses brass in any thru-hull assembly - it is the least "noble" metal amoungst stainless, bronze and brass and will corrode away quickly, much like a sacrificial zinc (brass being copper and zinc, bronze being copper and tin), leaving you with just the single retaining nut that you were uncomfortable with in the first place.

The memory jogger I always use is "Brass - my ass!"

Cheers, Craig


Re: [Amel] Retiring Soon, Looking for a Pre-Owned Amel

jlm@jlmertz.fr
 

The best place to buy a AMEL is in Frejus, France the broker is Michel
Charpentier (http://www.michelcharpentier.com/)
You will find there the best offer *and *the best prices !
Also you probably will have a better price with this broker than that
obtained by an individual owner's
you can call me (European time)

jluc
CottonBay
SM316


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Re: Retiring Soon, Looking for a Pre-Owned Amel

timandsusanallen <timandsusanallen@...>
 

We're in Dallas. Found a few in the U.S.; 2000 Nike in Florida.

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Paul" <aebersoldp@...> wrote:





--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "timandsusanallen" <timandsusanallen@> wrote:

WOW! We are about to create a new reality! Retiring and sailing aboard a beautiful sailboat. An Amel is an obvious choice. If you know of anyone looking to sell their Amel, please let us know. Also, any advice you have for first time buyers would be appreciated.
AMEL is the best you can buy. You can find AMEL boats in differnt places. Where are you located?


Re: Retiring Soon, Looking for a Pre-Owned Amel

Paul <aebersoldp@...>
 

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "timandsusanallen" <timandsusanallen@...> wrote:

WOW! We are about to create a new reality! Retiring and sailing aboard a beautiful sailboat. An Amel is an obvious choice. If you know of anyone looking to sell their Amel, please let us know. Also, any advice you have for first time buyers would be appreciated.
AMEL is the best you can buy. You can find AMEL boats in differnt places. Where are you located?


Re: [Amel] Retiring Soon, Looking for a Pre-Owned Amel

Eric Freedman
 

Hi,

There are a number of Amels for sale on Yacht world.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of timandsusanallen
Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 10:00 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] Retiring Soon, Looking for a Pre-Owned Amel





WOW! We are about to create a new reality! Retiring and sailing aboard a
beautiful sailboat. An Amel is an obvious choice. If you know of anyone
looking to sell their Amel, please let us know. Also, any advice you have
for first time buyers would be appreciated.


Retiring Soon, Looking for a Pre-Owned Amel

timandsusanallen <timandsusanallen@...>
 

WOW! We are about to create a new reality! Retiring and sailing aboard a beautiful sailboat. An Amel is an obvious choice. If you know of anyone looking to sell their Amel, please let us know. Also, any advice you have for first time buyers would be appreciated.


Re: [Amel] the art of "hoving to"

Richard Piller <richard03801@...>
 

Kent, we used a very short head sail and small main. With the head sail back winded the main on center and sheeted tight and the wheel tied off to windward we just sat there in both light and heavy winds.
With the wheel to windward and tied off it is hard to know why she turned on the wind. The bow normally will move around and head up then drop off. Did you have a big crossing sea that pushed you over??
Glad to know you got to the islands in good shape..
Fair winds
Richard and Joan SM 209




________________________________
From: Kent Robertson <karkauai@yahoo.com>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, December 12, 2009 9:28:47 AM
Subject: [Amel] the art of "hoving to"


Hi, John, et al,
I tried heaving-to while waiting to come into St Thomas. We were in 25kt winds and 4-6 ft seas. With the main and jib (135%) each at about 1 "reef" the motion was comfortable, but the bow kept dropping off and I sailed out of my "slick" at about 1.5kts. When I brought out the mizzen and finally rolled up the jib completely she sat at the prescribed "50degrees" off the wind, but still made enough headway that I sailed out of the slick. It was fine for the purpose this time, but if I understand correctly, I want to be slipping directly downwind to keep the slick between me and the oncoming waves if I'm in a breaking sea (a la the Pardee's).Anyone with an SM who's figured out how to do that without deploying a sea anchor off the side of the boat?

Thanks,
Kent
SM 243
"Kristy"









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Re: [Amel] Re: rpm problems

Richard Piller <richard03801@...>
 

Kent, I would suggest that you use a brass pin to hold the nut, or depending on the size a wire tie.
good sailing
Richard and Joan on Challenge SM 209




________________________________
From: Kent Robertson <karkauai@yahoo.com>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, December 12, 2009 9:06:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel] Re: rpm problems


Thanks, Richard. I'll have to ask the yard what kind of pin they used. The shaft is SS, and the prop is bronze. What should the pin be made of?
Kent
Kristy
SM 243

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Re: [Amel] Re: Liferaft Location

Attilio Siviero <attilio.siviero@...>
 

Bill,
I deem your opinion the right one, the problem is fitting the cradle: do you have any photo of your arrangement?
Thanks
Attilio&Maria
Santorin#84 Sisila




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Da: svbebe <yahoogroups@svbebe.com>
A: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Inviato: Sab 12 dicembre 2009, 02:20:09
Oggetto: [Amel] Re: Liferaft Location

 
We found 10 - 18.9 liter jerry jugs that fit perfect in 2 layers in the liferaft locker. This enables us to safely carry an additional 190 liters of fuel. We moved our 6-man Zodiac valise liferaft to the cockpit port lazerette.

We think the liferaft locker is a perfect location to carry extra fuel for weight distribution and safety...and we believe that the liferaft can be deployed easier from the lazerette than the locker.

Best,

Bill
s/v Bebe, SM2, #387
currently Malaysia

--- In amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com, "hollambyuk" <annejohnholl@ ...> wrote:

Hello Al,
We cannot see your pics as Yahoo does not allow attachments as they can carry viruses. Can you lease load the pics into Photos. My solution can be seen in that section under SM319,changes to Bali Hai.

Best wishes from Malta, John,SM 319






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Re: [Amel] the art of "hoving to"

john martin <symoondog@...>
 

Kent, You did every thing right. The boat was lying quietly and you were making only 1.5 knots. You won't get it to go any slower in 25 kts. or above. The fact that the boat was comfortable as you said, means you had a good angle on the seas, so I wouldn't worry about slicks and "50degrees" or whatever. Every boat is different. John "Moon Dog" SM 248



To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
From: karkauai@yahoo.com
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 06:28:47 -0800
Subject: [Amel] the art of "hoving to"





Hi, John, et al,
I tried heaving-to while waiting to come into St Thomas. We were in 25kt winds and 4-6 ft seas. With the main and jib (135%) each at about 1 "reef" the motion was comfortable, but the bow kept dropping off and I sailed out of my "slick" at about 1.5kts. When I brought out the mizzen and finally rolled up the jib completely she sat at the prescribed "50degrees" off the wind, but still made enough headway that I sailed out of the slick. It was fine for the purpose this time, but if I understand correctly, I want to be slipping directly downwind to keep the slick between me and the oncoming waves if I'm in a breaking sea (a la the Pardee's).Anyone with an SM who's figured out how to do that without deploying a sea anchor off the side of the boat?

Thanks,
Kent
SM 243
"Kristy"

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Giovanni TESTA
 

Hi to all,
thanks Jlm, but unlukily the system works unproperly for me.
In attached what appears on my pc.
Any suggestion ?
Thanks to all
Giovanni


Re: [Amel] error in photo

jlm@jlmertz.fr
 

yes it's work properly
jlm
from France
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gtesta23@tin.it a écrit :


hi to all,
I cannot open correctly
the "photo" section on forum site.
I see only little frame with red cross.
Do you know if the "forum" is working properly
Thanks
Giovanni Testa
s/v EUTIKIA SM2K 428

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