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Re: Need to align C-Drive to Engine - Santorin currently North side of Sicily

Marco Baldan
 

Dear Sabine and Amel Group,


In Italy a reference for Amel Yachts and also other sailboats is Davide Zerbinati (info@...). 
He is based in the north of Italy but has a good knowledge of available resources in the country. Unless a better option through the Amel Group, I would contact him for advice.

Fair winds,
Marco Baldan (not yet an Amel owner but looking for a Maramu)





On 25 Sep 2021, at 17:30, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

Sabine Stein <s.stein64@...> asks, "Is there anybody in Italy who knows a mechanic who did exactly that to the boat already 
or if in Italee anybody can recommend a mechanic who has worked on an Amel before"
 
Best,
 
CW Bill Rouse
Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970


Re: Bowman DC60-XCC Transmission Oil Cooler Failure; ZF Hurth ZF 25; Yanmar 4JH3-HTE #lessons

Alain Durante <info@...>
 

Hello,

 

Just came back from the boat and took the photo here under.

 

As you can see, the MOTA is bigger and longer than the original oil cooler and that might be a little more work to fix it on the engine frame.

 

Not difficult but needs to be very tight to avoid to touch the shaft brake disk when engine is running.

 

Maybe it will be easier to only order a new Bowman oil cooler together with 2 additional neoprene moulding to be used with the old cooler as a spare unit.

 

 

 

Cordialement,

 

Alain Durante

A54 / 21 / Meige

 

De : main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> De la part de Lior Keydar via groups.io
Envoyé : vendredi 24 septembre 2021 16:14
À : main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Objet : Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Bowman DC60-XCC Transmission Oil Cooler Failure; ZF Hurth ZF 25; Yanmar 4JH3-HTE #lessons #lessons

 

Hi everybody, dear Alain

I would like to order the Bowman DC60-XCC or the MOTA G058-235-1 / CC32.

The CC is 32 (on both products) but the oil ports on my boat are about 16 mm or 5/8 inches. Should I replace the oil ports to 3/8 or 1/2 inches (DC60-X or Y)?


Thank you for your help.

Lior, A54 #18


Re: Air in the cooling system of CLIMMA Aircon

Bertrand Quénot
 

Lior,
Don’t know if this could help but I have got the same trouble once because of a dusty filter at the entrance of the aircon. 
Regards
Bertrand 
ANTINEA A54#43

Le 25 sept. 2021 à 12:03, Lior Keydar <lior246@...> a écrit :

Hi

Today I serviced the saltwater pump of the Air condition (3x CLIMMA 9 BH).
Only the aircon in the aft cabin does not work. It is getting very fast hot and shut off incl. the 220v switch. Is it possible that there is air inside the water cooling system of this air con? the water flows out. The other two air con works perfectly.

Thanks for your help.

Lior, SHARONA A54 #18


Re: Bowman DC60-XCC Transmission Oil Cooler Failure; ZF Hurth ZF 25; Yanmar 4JH3-HTE #lessons

Lior Keydar
 

Dear Bill

my transmission oil cooler has a fitting of about 1.6 cm (5/8 Zoll). Should I replace the L fitting (by Bowman or Mota)?

Thank you in advance.

Lior




Air in the cooling system of CLIMMA Aircon

Lior Keydar
 

Hi

Today I serviced the saltwater pump of the Air condition (3x CLIMMA 9 BH).
Only the aircon in the aft cabin does not work. It is getting very fast hot and shut off incl. the 220v switch. Is it possible that there is air inside the water cooling system of this air con? the water flows out. The other two air con works perfectly.

Thanks for your help.

Lior, SHARONA A54 #18


Re: Water maker - mental moment

 

David, the actual 3-way manual valve has been known to leak also...And, of course, it could be a leaking 1-way valve on the freshwater pump.


CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar

On Sat, Sep 25, 2021 at 11:28 AM David Crisp <david@...> wrote:
Thanks Olivier and Roque,

I have checked for leaks everywhere and all is tight so before getting into more technical thoughts I wanted to check I wasn't making a silly mistake.  Will check the solenoid valve.
--
David Crisp
SV Wilna Grace
Amel 54 #58


Re: Water maker - mental moment

David Crisp
 

Thanks Olivier and Roque,

I have checked for leaks everywhere and all is tight so before getting into more technical thoughts I wanted to check I wasn't making a silly mistake.  Will check the solenoid valve.
--
David Crisp
SV Wilna Grace
Amel 54 #58


Re: Need to align C-Drive to Engine - Santorin currently North side of Sicily

 

Sabine Stein <s.stein64@...> asks, "Is there anybody in Italy who knows a mechanic who did exactly that to the boat already 
or if in Italee anybody can recommend a mechanic who has worked on an Amel before"
 
Best,
 
CW Bill Rouse
Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970


SM Skeg

Andrew & Kate Lamb
 

On  the skeg at one of the rudder fixtures there is a screw on either side fixed into I think a Nylon bush. They look like they might be for grease? There is no mention of this being a maintenance point in the Amel documentation. Does anyone know what these screws are for - see photo- perhaps they are just to be removed in the event of lifting of the rudder?

Image.jpeg

Andrew
Ronpische 
SM 472
Canet-en-Roussillon


Re: Water maker - mental moment

Olivier Beaute
 

Hello David,

The solenoid valve that flushes the watermaker automatically (located above the primary filters) mat be leaking internally.
Check it (undo the plumbing fitting after the valve).

Olivier

Envoyé de mon iPhone


Re: Water maker - mental moment

Roque
 

Hi David

Just to confirm, on Amel54 #117 it works like you described:

- handle vertical upwards - fresh water flush
- handle horizontal everything shut off
- handle vertically down sea water allowed to flow.

Roque
Attika A54 117
Paraty - Brazil


Re: Solar/MPPT or Multiplus during winter lay up?

James Alton
 

David,

    Some gel batteries have such low self discharge rates that it might be best to just unhook them to insure there are no phantom loads and don't do any charging.  The Sonnenschien Gels that I have been using can sit on the shelf without charging for up to 2 years according to the manufacturer.  I unfortunately  ended up going almost that long without charging due to COVID travel restrictions to Greece and despite my batteries being quite old they were fine when I returned.  So maybe check with Victron to get their guidance since there are various gel chemistries.  The most critical thing about gels is to avoid overcharging them so there is always some risk leaving an unmonitored charging source on a boat.  Overcharging can boil the electrolyte out you cannot replace it.  

Best,
James Alton
SV Sueno,  Vonista, Greece




-------- Original message --------
From: David Crisp <david@...>
Date: 9/25/21 11:02 AM (GMT+02:00)
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Solar/MPPT or Multiplus during winter lay up?

Wilna Grace has twelve new 110AH Victron Gel batteries and I'm keen to look after them carefully! The bank is charged either by solar and a Victron MPPT 100/50 or a Victron Multiplus 24V 3000W 70A.

I am about to store my boat onshore in Greece for the winter (6 months) and I am wondering what the best way is to leave my Gel batteries powered with the solar/MPPT or Multiplus? I ask because I note the Multiplus has a storage mode whereas the MPPT does not.

--
David Crisp
SV Wilna Grace
Amel 54 #58


Re: After market engine mounts ? #replacement

Helen and Kostas Yuvanidi
 

Hi Kevin,

We just replaced our c-drive this summer. Along with the new c-drive Maud at Amel sent us all the engine mounts , (for Perkins Prima M80T )mounts for the new c-drive and the base for the engine . So they can definitely supply the c-drive mounts.

Best regards,
Helen and Kosta on SM 29 , Meditation 


On 24 Sep 2021, at 9:10 PM, Kevin Schmit <kevschmit64@...> wrote:

Folks,

It’s my understanding that the four (4) Yanmar mounts should ordered direct from Yanmar.  Where did you get the Two (2) C drive mounts from-Amel?

Thanks,
--
Kevin & Kristen Schmit
KIANA
SM #362


Water maker - mental moment

David Crisp
 

I'm having a mental moment/doubts concerning the correct positions for the three-way valve on the watermaker (Duo 100 on an A54)

Restarted the watermaker yesterday (after it had been pickled for a couple of months) turned the valve upwards to flush with fresh water.  Then the turned the valve handle downwards to allow sea water to be taken in from the manifold to the HP pump.  All seemed okay.  I've left the handle turned downwards as normal for day to day operation but I find the fresh water pump keeps kicking in every few minutes, I can only stop this by having the valve handle horizontal.

As I recall/understood: 
- handle vertical upwards - fresh water flush
- handle horizontal everything shut off
- handle vertically down sea water allowed to flow.

Am I having a mental moment or is there a problem somewhere please?

--
David Crisp
SV Wilna Grace
Amel 54 #58


Solar/MPPT or Multiplus during winter lay up?

David Crisp
 

Wilna Grace has twelve new 110AH Victron Gel batteries and I'm keen to look after them carefully! The bank is charged either by solar and a Victron MPPT 100/50 or a Victron Multiplus 24V 3000W 70A.

I am about to store my boat onshore in Greece for the winter (6 months) and I am wondering what the best way is to leave my Gel batteries powered with the solar/MPPT or Multiplus? I ask because I note the Multiplus has a storage mode whereas the MPPT does not.

--
David Crisp
SV Wilna Grace
Amel 54 #58


Re: Update to Bow Thruster will not go down

Mark McGovern
 

Steve,

No problem.  I am by no means an expert but it sounds like Stefan might be able to assist you in identifying the component and possibly sourcing a similar one to replace it.  Here is a link to a diode that is similar to the one that was used in the Bowthruster PCBs found in later model SMs like mine:  https://www.newark.com/vishay/gi754-e3-73/rectifier-diode-single-400-v-6/dp/97K0535?CMP=AFC-SF-T11-US

And if the trace is indeed damaged beyond repair, you can solder a small piece of wire in it's place to complete the circuit between the two through-holes that the trace previously connected.

--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Block Island, RI USA


Re: SM & A54 Main + Mizzen manual furling gear boxes - seals, o-rings, dust cover … + source(s) ???

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Stefan. I have just completed a service of the main furler gearbox. Seals are available from SKF. As you would expect the list Maud has sent you shows the correct dimensions.

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 25 September 2021 at 06:54 Stefan Schaufert <mail@...> wrote:

Dear Amelians,

I want to change all seals etc. for the main and mizzen manual rolling gear.
I was in contact with Maud.  She sends me a good picture, but cannot send me a list of measurements etc. and a set of seals etc. (at least not at the moment).
The forum helped me more (posts and references from Pat SM 123, Scott, Ken ...) but I'm completely stuck now.
Not sure about the dimensions or type of the seals, I haven't found a good source.
 
So I hope that someone has a list with the proven number, dimension, etc. of all the seals required, etc.,
as well as a good source in Europe, ideally in Germany (preferably all parts together).
 
Thanks a lot you for your help.
 
 Best regards
 Stefan
 A54 # 119 Lady Charlyette, currently La Palma - Canary Islands


Re: Bowman DC60-XCC Transmission Oil Cooler Failure; ZF Hurth ZF 25; Yanmar 4JH3-HTE #lessons

 

Mark,

In that case, the cooler themselves take the same plumbing because they both have two (2) x Female 3/8" BSP threaded holes.

Bill

CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar

On Fri, Sep 24, 2021 at 3:48 PM Mark McGovern <mfmcgovern@...> wrote:
Bill,

Not to add more confusion to what is already a confusing topic, but here is what I found on my SM #440:

The DC60-XCC oil cooler has two (2) x Female 3/8" BSP threaded holes in it for the oil lines.  As sold by Bowman, there are no included fittings, just the the 3/8" BSP threaded holes. 

My original DC60-XCC oil cooler that failed had two (2) 90 degree fittings that were Male 3/8" BSP on one leg and Male 3/8" JIC 37° on the other leg.  These were installed in the threaded holes of the oil cooler using some kind of thread sealant.  The hydraulic hoses had one (1) Straight Female JIC 37° swivel fitting on the oil cooler end.  The transmission end of the hoses were what Parker calls a "Female Metric L - Swivel - (24° Cone with O-Ring)".  I believe that the 24° Cone makes it either an SAE or DIN standard fitting but I honestly don't know.  That end of the hose actually threads into some kind of straight fitting that comes out of the transmission.

--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Belfast, ME USA


Re: Bowman DC60-XCC Transmission Oil Cooler Failure; ZF Hurth ZF 25; Yanmar 4JH3-HTE #lessons

Mark McGovern
 

Bill,

Not to add more confusion to what is already a confusing topic, but here is what I found on my SM #440:

The DC60-XCC oil cooler has two (2) x Female 3/8" BSP threaded holes in it for the oil lines.  As sold by Bowman, there are no included fittings, just the the 3/8" BSP threaded holes. 

My original DC60-XCC oil cooler that failed had two (2) 90 degree fittings that were Male 3/8" BSP on one leg and Male 3/8" JIC 37° on the other leg.  These were installed in the threaded holes of the oil cooler using some kind of thread sealant.  The hydraulic hoses had one (1) Straight Female JIC 37° swivel fitting on the oil cooler end.  The transmission end of the hoses were what Parker calls a "Female Metric L - Swivel - (24° Cone with O-Ring)".  I believe that the 24° Cone makes it either an SAE or DIN standard fitting but I honestly don't know.  That end of the hose actually threads into some kind of straight fitting that comes out of the transmission.

--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Belfast, ME USA


Re: Need to align C-Drive to Engine - Santorin currently North side of Sicily

 

Herbert, Sabine is not a member of this group. I sent her your message.

Bill


CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar

On Fri, Sep 24, 2021 at 3:15 PM Herbert Lackner <herbert@...> wrote:
Sabine,  you can send me a message at Herbert-at-lackner.at,  can give you a call to share my experience with Santorin engine  alignment

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