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Re: Fresh Water Leak At Aft Head
Hi, all,
I now have a fresh water leak into the bilge inboard of the aft head, too. We've also noticed the fresh water pump running for a few seconds every couple of hours. There has never been water found in the bilge until a boisterous sail last night, tacking into a 20kt wind. Found at least 10-12 liters there. It's only barely salty to taste. We haven't been running the AC, so guessing it's one of the supply lines for sink or shower. Maybe it accumulated outboard of one of the stringers, then sloshed inboard when heeled? Would that help diagnose where the leak is?
I've looked at the aft cabin side of the wall where the shower is, no evidence of a leak there. Do I need to remove the shower valve assembly? Is there a space between the shower wall and the aft cabin wall?
Likewise no evidence of leak where the lines enter the bulkhead from the engine room to the aft sink. Is this a double-walled bulkhead with a space between?
Thanks for any insight.
-- Kent & Iris KRISTY
SM243
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Re: Opacmare - replacing sensor
Hi Vladan,
In my case the sensors were the same as in the picture you made. Removing the cover is a bit of a pain. Remove the two screws on the side that is exposed when the passerelle is in the closed postion. Next remove one of the screws that holds the two halves together at the back of the passerelle. Now you should be able to remove the wooden slate on the top. In my case it is fixed with some sort of velcro. Now you can acces three screws on the top that loosen the second half. You will need to rotate the passerelle in and out to be able to access all three screws. The connectors are on top directly under the cover (see enclosed picture). Regards, Arno Luijten SV Luna, A54-121 
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Re: Main Outhaul gearbox ware to buy
Amel is a good source to get parts for your boat.
Maud TOUILLET Service clientèle/Customer service
Phone : +33 (0) 546 55 00 75
Chantiers AMEL S.A. 8 rue Joseph Cugnot - CS 80015 - 17183 Périgny cedex - France-- Jason Rutledge SV Liahona SM 335
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Re: Opacmare - replacing sensor
Lior Keydar
Dear Vladan
I replaced exactly the same sensors. I did not need to solder anything. The old ones were the same. When the passerelle is in a close position, remove the two screws on the picture. After that, half of the cover comes out with the wooden part above. Open the Passerelle and remove the third screw on the other side + another one that is located under the wood part and remove the second half of the cover. Best, Lior
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Re: Opacmare - replacing sensor
Vladan SV PAME
Hi Arno, Lior and Tony
Arno, Thanks for sharing your expertise. I just received sensors this afternoon and will proceed with replacing them as soon as weather conditions allows me. Before I start please let me know following: - As of sensors connectors are they look like one on photo attached. Asking this because the guy from Greek dealership of Opacmare who sold me sensors keep saying that I need to cut connectors and solder sensor wires to existing wires. That doesn't sound right to me. - As of removing SS cover of rotating part you are mentioning both parts. As far as I can see it's only one part that goes around rotating part and I can locate only 3 screws from the outside. Two on starboard side ( when passarella is out ) and one at the back. Is it any other screw inside that I should look for? See attached photo. Lior, Thanks for detailed explanation how to access to other end of sensor cable. That is exactly what I was looking for. Tony, Thanks for your advise. I hear same from some other Amel owners and that is first that I checked. Unfortunately sensor is dead. For anyone else interested in this topic I'm attaching photo of label from manufacturer's packaging with Type and Part No of sensor and I'm sure that can be purchased somewhere else ( cheaper ) then Opacmare dealership. Best Regards, -- Vladan A54 #157 SV PAME
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Re: Air in the cooling system of CLIMMA Aircon
Billy Newport
I'm about to swap my broken climma cws201 with a Climma DC35 inverting unit. The cws unit had a refrigerant leak by the reversing valve which turns out to be impossible or very difficult to fix. So, replace seems only option. Finding a similar sized units is challenging, Dometic don't have one. Webasto only had smaller capacity units and the DC35 (even at 35k BTU vs 20k) fits in same volume and is an inverter based unit with those advtanges. It's also double the price. Should be installed end of October, lets see how well it works.
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Re: B&G Sonic Speed sensors replacement
antonio scipioni
Hi Michele,
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If you live in Rome you can try to powerline by paolo ceccarelli that’s BeG dealer. Br Antonio Vagabundo SN108 Tuscany Inviato da iPhone
Il giorno 19 set 2021, alle ore 12:52, Marco Mancini <marcomancini61@...> ha scritto:
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Re: Opacmare - replacing sensor
Hi Vladan,
I am by now an expert in this fantastic piece of Italian engineering. You need to remove both covers of the rotating part of the passarelle. To do this you will need to rotate the passarelle into two positions. Under the cover you will find the connectors that connect the sensors to the wiring-loom that leads to the control box inside the locker. If you are lucky the connectors are still usable but you may find them very badly corroded. Once you manage to replace the sensor make sure to cover the connectors with self-vulcanising tape to protect them. The bad the news is that there are a lot of other things that can and will go bad with this thing, most of them very expensive. I spent about 20k$ by now on this thing. Kind regards, Arno Luijten SV Luna A54-121
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Re: Air in the cooling system of CLIMMA Aircon
For our boat I have changed the Climma’s for Frigomar Inverter units (http://frigomar.com/). A huge improvement. They use less power, have no startup surge and are more quiet during operation. The rear unit (10k BTU) was a bit tricky to install because of the water connections but by using some 90 degree elbows and shortening the pipes I was able to install it quite handsomely.
I replaced the rear and the center one with Frigomar, the center one is now 16kBTU. The front one was taken from the center as that one was replace just before I bought the boat with a Webasto 9k model. I find this one not very well build. Whoever came up with the idea to use a fan with steel blades in a A/C unit should have his head examined as its rusting away as we speak. Regards, Arno Luijten SV Luna, A54-121
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Re: Air in the cooling system of CLIMMA Aircon
amelforme
Glad they provided more room for the aft A/C unit in boats after Amel 54 # 14. My failed A/C unit needed to be deeply deconstructed for both the removal and reinstall. Or, maybe they tried something new on my boat. Will never know as the production manager from that time period is long retired and doesn’t like to remember his working days.
All the best, Joel
JOEL F. POTTER ~ CRUISING YACHT SPECIALIST, L.L.C. The Experienced AMEL Guy UNSURPASSED AMEL MARKETING EXPERIENCE AND PRODUCT KNOWLEDGE Office 954-462-5869 Cell 954-812-2485
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dominique Sery via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 2:45 PM To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Air in the cooling system of CLIMMA Aircon
Lior, it was a bit more difficult for the saloon because the new Climma 12000 is bigger than the original.
Cordialement
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Re: Air in the cooling system of CLIMMA Aircon
Dominique Sery
Lior, it was a bit more difficult for the saloon because the new Climma 12000 is bigger than the original.
Cordialement
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Re: Water maker - mental moment
rossirossix4
For us, the easiest way to check for a leak in the freshwater valve is to close the seacock to the main intake strainer/sea-chest and then remove the top of the strainer and disable the head intake pumps (you can flush using water jugs of sea or fresh water or fresh water from the sink or shower in the head), AC, etc. Note the water level (you can pull out a few inches with the toilet supply pump before disabling it). You can continue to use fresh water in the boat.
After a few hours and certainly by 24 hours you will see a rise in the level in the strainer. That water is coming from the leak and the 3-way valve needs to be replaced. A leak in the 3 way can flood your generator and possibly your engine with fresh water under certain conditions. This happened to us at the dock and we caught it just before it flooded the generator. We had the sea-cock to the strainer closed and were using fresh water in the heads and weren't using AC. Because the strainer seacock is closed water will force itself through the raw water pumps of both the generator and engine filling the lift muffler and then exhaust loop before flowing out the exhaust Water then floods the exhaust manifold of the engine and will flood the cylinders and then make its way into the oil pan. For some reason the water does not exit the AC system which is lower. Probably because of resistance in the one-way valve. The main point is that the risk of a leaking 3-way can be more than just excessive fresh water usage. It is well worth testing this, particularly if you are at dock with the sea-cock closed. Hearing your fresh water pump cycle on during a period of non-water usage is a good reason to check for this or other leaks. Bob KAIMI 429
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Re: Air in the cooling system of CLIMMA Aircon
Lior Keydar
Dear Dimitris, Dominique, and Joel
Thank you very much for your feedback. I am sure now that the right decision is to order exactly the same CLIMMA 9000 model. I just hope that it is still the same size. I saw that It should not be easy to replace it. I just hope that the furniture is not glued and that it will be possible to take it apart with screws only. Thanks again Lior, SHARONA, A54 #18
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Re: Opacmare - replacing sensor
tony wells
In my experience, sometimes the sensors fail to work because they’ve become too far apart - insert a thin knife blade, for example, between them and test the function. Hope helps someone someday, if not you Vladan. Tony Wells Previous A54 Owner
On 27 Sep 2021, at 18:20, Vladan SV PAME <vladan.bojic@...> wrote:
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Re: Opacmare - replacing sensor
Lior Keydar
dear vladan
i replaced those sensors several times. i have an earlier model but maybe it is the same. you have to move the round cover around the sensors. then, there are two part with two small screws. the first part you can take out while the gangway is in close position ,and the second part when the gangway is turned to the left. there is also a screw to open at the top of the second cover. now you can easily replace the sensors. i hope it helps best lior, SHARONA, A54 #18
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Main Outhaul gearbox ware to buy
Peter Attinge
Hello
We have just bout a SM2K red line #451 The Main Outhaul gearbox is stuck. ware can i buy a new one and whats the approximately price. The broker told me the jib gearbox was stuck, but its work great. Thanks //Peter #451
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Re: Researching low profile solar panels
Thanks for your email Greg!
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I have a different set, as my main sail boom is ABOVE the arch. I’ll check out Offgristech. Here are some photos of my setup. Best, JB      
On Sep 27, 2021, at 01:05, Gregory Shea <gmshea@...> wrote:
Hey JB,
I have the same "in front of the mizzen" arrangement as you. The issue with that arrangement is that the width of the panels is constrained by the mizzen and the boom and/or topping lift. Finding panels with the correct geometry I found challenging. The only
vendor that offered panels that would work for me was a German outfit, Offgridtech.
They are not particularly cheap but their technolgy seems more than adequate, their quality is excellent, the performance works for me and their delivery is reliable. I have two of their semi-flexibles in front of the mizzen and two of their rigids on the rail.
Flexibility was not something I really needed, geometry and weight were my primary drivers in choosing the semi-flexibles.
You can order direct from them or via Amazon.de. In one instance I had them ship to Italy and this year to Greece. Spain should be a snap. Their website is a mix of German and English but you can figure it out if you find yourself in a German bit.
In case you are looking at new panels that are wider than the old ones, don't just check the clearance with the sail furled. Lift the boom up to the "to-be" position of the new panels and make sure they clear. Everything may seem OK in the static position
but when the boom raises, as the sail is deployed, the dynamic clearance may be much less than you thought. I put a new main on my boat this year and with the sail furled everything looked fine. However, the cut of the new sail was sufficiently different to
the old one that the end of the boom, when sailing, was much higher than with my old sail. The first time I gybed, the boom hit the solar framework. An Amel boom hitting anything will put the fear of god in you. A gybing Amel boom even more so. The framework
was immediately raised to clear.
Attached are some pics of an early version of my setup with my old main deployed.
<image1.jpeg><image2.jpeg>Good luck with the project.
Greg Shea
Sharki 133 Cap des Iles Kilada, Greece
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of JB Duler <jbduler@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2021 3:20 PM To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Researching low profile solar panels Hello,
I have a unique setup, an arch in front of the mizzen mast where 19W flexible solar panels were installed maybe 20 years ago. They are dead.
The boat is based near Barcelona. Where is a good source to get panels in Europe? I know where to go in the US but not in Europe. Thanks again for the help, -- John Bernard "JB" Duler San Francisco Meltem # 19, Western Med -- John Bernard "JB" Duler San Francisco Meltem # 19, Western Med
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Re: SM & A54 Main + Mizzen manual furling gear boxes - seals, o-rings, dust cover … + source(s) ???
Maybe that is the top seal of the motor, but I cannot tell the size. If the seal size is 45mmX65mmX8mm, it is for the top of the motor.
On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 12:37 PM Vladan SV PAME <vladan.bojic@...> wrote:
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Re: SM & A54 Main + Mizzen manual furling gear boxes - seals, o-rings, dust cover … + source(s) ???
Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Hi again Vladan. What is the size, You can read it off the seal. For example the one for the top of the gearbox is 60x45x7 if my memory serves me correctly. Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl
On 28 September 2021 at 06:36 Vladan SV PAME <vladan.bojic@...> wrote:
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Re: SM & A54 Main + Mizzen manual furling gear boxes - seals, o-rings, dust cover … + source(s) ???
Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Hi Vladan, sorry I dont. Havent been there yet. Kind Regards Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl
On 27 September 2021 at 20:27 Vladan SV PAME <vladan.bojic@...> wrote:
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