Re: What to do with LiFePO4 batteries when the boat is layed up?
Hi Matt,
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Re: Fresh Water Leak At Aft Head
Hi Kent,
I think the answer is here.... " There has never been water found in the bilge until a boisterous sail last night, tacking into a 20kt wind. Found at least 10-12 liters there. It's only barely salty to taste." I had exactly this scenario on the way to Tahiti some years ago. Water sloshing around in the space under the aft head. I tried and almost convinced myself that it wasn't salty, but it was...... Where did it come from? The seals on the rudder shaft. We were on starboard tack in big seas for quite a while and the water pressure from the pounding forced water up past those compressed rings. It then worked its way along the port side under the aft bunk and went to the lowest point under the aft head. Tightened up the nut and that stopped it temporarily. Permanent fix was to replace the shaft sealing. All the best Alan Elyse SM437
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Re: Height of the SM Mizzen Mast
43’4” - Mizzen mast length from the deck to top of the mast.
On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 9:30 AM Richie Whyte <richiewhyte@...> wrote: Gentlefolk,
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Hi Gary--- Companionway Door Seal - New Photos Album & Photos
eric freedman <kimberlite@...>
Would you please send me the photos of this modification to: kimberlite@.... Fair Winds ERIC Kimberlite@...
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of eric freedman
Sent: Sunday, April 7, 2019 8:40 AM To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Companionway Door Seal - New Photos Album & Photos
Hi Gary, Nice Job, Where do I get the aircraft silicone rubber in the USA? Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gary Silver via Groups.Io
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Height of the SM Mizzen Mast
Richie Whyte
Gentlefolk,
A quick question for anyone who has done this recently. I am ordering a new AIS and need to tell the supplier how much VHF cable I’ll need. I’m presuming the black box AIS will be mounted in the Nav Station area. I can measure the circuitous route to the bottom of the mast (in the aft head panel beside the mirror) but I can’t get a figure for the height of the mizzen mast of the Super Maramu anywhere. Anyone got any ideas? Richie Richie Whyte ‘Why Knot’, SM2K#261 Kos Marina, Kos Greece
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Re: SM Skeg
Andrew & Kate Lamb
Hi Stefan
Many thanks that is very helpful. Sounds like greasing that might actually be harmful.
Andrew
Ronpische SM #472 Canet-en-roussillon
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Stefan Jeukendrup via groups.io
Sent: 01 October 2021 12:42 To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] SM Skeg
Hi Andrew,
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Re: SM Skeg
Stefan Jeukendrup
Hi Andrew,
I had to remove the rudder in the past weeks for a succesfull repair. From what I saw the nylon bushing is just water lubricated. Those 2 screws on the side hold the bushing in place. Olaf Bauer made a description of the rudder removal which may help you too: https://amelyachtowners.groups.io/g/main/files/AMEL%20SM2K%20Rudder%20Removal/Rudder%20removal%20at%20a%20AMEL%20Super%20Maramu%202000.pdf Best regards, Stefan Jeukendrup sv malaka Queen SM2k #348 @ Northern Ireland
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Re: Opacmare - replacing sensor
Hi Paul, Actually I have been considering to enhance the system using an Arduino controller or similar. But builing something like that and also making it reliable takes time and I had other priorities. The passerelle has several flaws, not only the electronics. I don’t think the sensors themselves are bad design. The connectors and wireing is more of a problem. The current control system is crude but does the job. If improvements are made it would be in adding sensors and automate the closure/opening sequence a bit more. In the end it would add a fairly limited amount of functionality. For me it would be more a challenge to do so then a solution to a problem. So maybe I will take it on at some point but not now. The main problem with the thing is the ingress of salt water in the rotational actuator. I had to replace mine at 6k$ cost. Protecting it totally from seawater is not so easy.
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Re: SM & A54 Main + Mizzen manual furling gear boxes - seals, o-rings, dust cover … + source(s) ???
Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Hi Vladan, I did give the dimensions of one seal at 60x45x7. However I did say that was from memory. I will check in the next days and let you know. Kind Regards Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl
On 01 October 2021 at 01:56 Vladan SV PAME <vladan.bojic@...> wrote:
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Re: What to do with LiFePO4 batteries when the boat is layed up?
Matt & Michelle
For what it is worth....
Michelle and I just received our shipment of Victron 200Ah LiFePO4 batteries. I measured all six of our batteries as received, and they are at an identical 48.2% SOC. I purchased the batteries from PKYS (shipped direct from Victron). Peter Kennedy (great technical guy to work with) ensured I purchased a small Victron battery charger to fully charge each battery individually prior to install. To Scott's point, Victron is not going to have inventory age and expire in storage as an ongoing money making enterprise, and the SOC matches what all those boring peer reviewed studies say. Just another data point worth considering. If anyone is considering doing a LiFePO4 conversion, I would strongly recommend you read Scott's write-up, Bill Kinney's post, and then the peer reviewed papers. The lithium conversion world is the wild west right now, with multiple companies selling silly "drop-in" full conversion batteries. You are ultimately changing the power distribution architecture of your boat which has significant life safety risk. Finding the right experienced technical resources has been challenging for us. One can easily see why insurance companies are nervous, and I suspect redneck engineered conversions will be a fun new topic of new used boat sales in the near future. Matt & Michelle Day SM#209 SV Talia Hampton, VA
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Re: Opacmare - replacing sensor
Paul Harries
Arno
You are such an intelligent guy I wonder as to whether you have considered re engineering this marvel of Italian engineering into a more reliable solution. Would a different position sensor technology work? From what you say the central control unit is fairly simple. -- Paul Harries Prospective Amel Buyer
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Re: Converting my Amel 54 to lithium batteries: what I did, what I like and what I don't like (after one year of full time live aboard use)
Lior Keydar
Ruedi
I forward you the solution that Robin from SV Carré d’As sent me. He had the same problem and me too. It is actually very easy. Best, Lior "We found the solution:
find the cable that comes from the pump in the 230V Tableau in the galley and connect it to the side where there is always power - secure it with a 5 amp fuse and you are done!
fair winds
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Re: SM & A54 Main + Mizzen manual furling gear boxes - seals, o-rings, dust cover … + source(s) ???
Vladan SV PAME
Bill,
the extra seal number 5 is 45 x 58 x 7 It’s difficult to check size of the motor seal without taking off motor. For sure shaft coming out of motor is 45 mm so it can be. Also as I see Danny is mentioning slightly different size of seal so could it be that not all manual furlers installed through production line were same? Best Regards, -- Vladan A54 #157 SV PAME
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Re: SM & A54 Main + Mizzen manual furling gear boxes - seals, o-rings, dust cover … + source(s) ???
Vladan SV PAME
Hi Stefan,
I’m attaching again photo. Highlighted green are description and dimensions. however here they are: 1. Joint V-ring VA45 2. Joint OR Fi 94 x 2 3. Bague d’etancheite 25 x 33 x 6 4. Bague d’etancheite 30 x 40 x 7 AS 5. Bague d’etancheite 45 x 58 x 7 6. Joint OR Fi 62 x 1,5 Hope this helps. Best Regards, -- Vladan A54 #157 SV PAME
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Re: Opacmare - replacing sensor
Scott SV Tengah
Arno,
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This is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you. -Scott
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Re: Opacmare - replacing sensor
Hi Scott,
The brain of this thing is fairly rudimentary so not too likely to fail unless water has entered the enclosure or the connectors. The way they routed the sensor cables is not the best leaving the connectors in a place where seawater easily gets. So your first step is checking the wires and other parts for corrosion and water ingress. As you may have noticed the sensors have a light build in that lights up when the sensor senses metal. There are four sensors in total. Two are used to sense the height of the passerelle and the middle (level) position. They are prone to mis-adjustment because of the way they are mounted on metal brackets. The logic is that both must be actuated at the level-position of the gangway. So there is a very small area of possible positions for which both are actuated. This can give you problems if the cylinders are not working properly. The way it works is that the pump pushes oil that gets routed by the electromagnetic valves. Behind these valves there are adjustable restrictors that limit the oil-flow to the cylinders. These restrictors need to be adjusted in such a way that the up-down speed is not too high for the system to stop the motion at the point where both sensors are actuated. In my case I had problems with the seals inside the cylinders that made this into a total hell and it took us moths of trial and error to realize the cylinders needed to be overhauled. Reading what you are saying, my guess is that the brain is getting information that both up-down sensors are active all the time and the rotation sensor is also active all the time. On the brainbox there are LEDs that will tell you which sensors are actuated according to the brainbox. From memory they are marked X,Y,W and V. When the passerelle is tucked away only one of them should be dim and three should light up. The dim one is the rotational sensor that only lights up if the passerelle is at an angle of 80-100 degrees with the stern. Only at that point the up-down and extend functions will operate. So if your rotational sensor is active all the time you can really crash your passerelle into the GRP slot. The lights on the brainbox can really help you identifying the problem. As said before the connectors and brainbox enclosure are suspect for creating false signals. Compare the signal light at the back of the sensors with the lights in the brainbox. Hope this helps, Arno Luijten, SV Luna, A54-121
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Re: SM & A54 Main + Mizzen manual furling gear boxes - seals, o-rings, dust cover … + source(s) ???
Stefan Schaufert
Thank you Bill and Danny.
That helps. Dear Vladan, thx a lot. Unfortunately the photo is not readable (list of seals). Thus I appreciate a better resolution. Thanks for that. I found 2 good sources of supply (in Germany/ for Europe): https://www.kugellager-express.de/va-und-wellendichtringe (v-rings, oil seals)
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Re: Converting my Amel 54 to lithium batteries: what I did, what I like and what I don't like (after one year of full time live aboard use)
Scott SV Tengah
Reudi,
My AC pump works on inverter just fine. We got rid of the Amel transfer switch when we upgraded to the Victron Quattro which has it's own "smart" transfer switch that can limit input current and also use the inverter to supplement draws above this limit current. Carre D'As had a problem with his AC pump not working on inverter - you should ask if he's resolved it. He has the Multiplus, which doesn't have the internal transfer switch so relies on the Amel switch. If I had to guess based on the fact that it works fine for me and it doesn't work with Carre D'As, the AC pump is probably wired to the Amel switch? A proper electrician should surely be able to figure it out in 15 minutes. -- Scott 2007 A54 #69 SV Tengah http://www.svtengah.com
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Re: Opacmare - replacing sensor
Scott SV Tengah
Arno,
Like you, I have spent lots of money making this thing work. I have sort of given up after spending around half of what you spent. It sounds like you were more determined that I was! Now it's working 90% correct but I have a very odd problem. Earlier, when the sensors didn't work, the passerelle wouldn't operate in the direction that is sensed by the faulty sensor. I presume this was a safety measure. Currently, the problem is that it will NOT automatically retract and lower itself to fit into the fiberglass slot in the stern if I try to use the rotate button to bring the passerelle into the boat. In other words, when I'm about to leave the marina and the passerelle is fully extended and tilted a bit higher than parallel with the water, the passerelle will happily rotate towards the boat even though it clearly would not fit into the fiberglass slot in the stern in the extended/raised position! I need to retract it manually and lower it to match the slot manually. As a corollary, if it's safely tucked into the fiberglass slot in the stern, it will happily extend or tilt vertically, even though that would obviously damage the slot. I was just about to give up and disconnect power to it for safety reasons, but perhaps since you've become an expert at this damn thing, you could suggest a solution? I've spent enough on sensors, I'd rather not try to source some more if the problem is elsewhere. Thanks! -- Scott 2007 A54 #69 SV Tengah http://www.svtengah.com
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Re: What to do with LiFePO4 batteries when the boat is layed up?
Scott SV Tengah
Joerg, Charging to 80% is the foolproof way to go, for sure as it reduces the likelihood of low voltage battery death in the off chance that the charger/power source is cut off. The cost of this is reduced longevity.
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