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How much gear oil is needed for the 'C' Drive

Eric Freedman <kimberlite@...>
 

Kimberlite is on the hard for it bottom paint job. I replaced the lips seals, greased the prop, rebuilt the spurs line cutter,  and wearing out bearing. I also drained the gear oil. Tomorrow I want to fill up the ‘C” drive, but I forgot to read the manual and I don’t recall how much gear oil I need for Kimberlite. I would like to save a trip to the boat. Does anyone know how much gear oil I need for the “C” drive?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 
Re: Rudder Stuffing Box Packing Material

rossirossix4
 

I believe the rudder packing supplied by Amel is 10mmx10mm (at least for Super Maramus).  I just put a caliper to the 3 pieces of white flax packing that amel sent to me and it is 10x10mm.  I think there ae several places in our postings that say it is 8x8mm.  I think that is not correct.

Anyone else out there with some packing from Amel that could measure and confirm this?

Bob    KAIMI SM429
Re: Galley sink drains

Bruno COTTE
 

Not easy to play with the grey water tank for the kitchen sink . When you have a boat  like A 55 to think for a direct sea cock is a true subject . I am studying it . Amel 55#63

Envoyé de mon iPhone

Le 19 oct. 2021 à 22:54, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> a écrit :



We wipe all the dishes with paper towels before washing. NEVER put coffee grounds down the sink drain

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 20 October 2021 at 08:23 "ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@...>" <ianjudyjenkins@...> wrote:

Can I assume that everyone has a plastic washing up bowl in their galley sinks ? Its use reduces the volume of washing up water , saves the sink surface from being chipped by a careless saucepan and , not least , if you have really dirty washing up (a fish supper maybe) you can either tip the bowl overboard or down the head.

Fresh water and washing up liquid does the head no harm.

Failing that , in England young mothers use a product called Milton to sterilise babies’ bottles . Does a great job on an Amel bilge as well. 

Ian and Judy , Pen Azen , SM 302, Kilada, Greece

 

On 19 Oct 2021, at 20:57, Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...> wrote:

We flush the bilge several times with water and dish washing liquid once or twice every season and we do not have any issues with smell. I pour dish washing liquid in the bilge and leave the water hose running. This creates a large foam volume in the bilge. While the bilge pump runs, I also pump the manual pump that extracts all the solids from the bottom. I usually spend 2-4 hours a season on this task. In my opinion, the design is sound and eliminating this task by making an additional hole in the hull, creates more issues than it solves.

 

Also, as Bill stated, If I were looking at purchasing another Amel, this modification would certainly weigh heavily on the negative side.

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joerg Esdorn via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2021 10:43 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Galley sink drain

 

The other advantage of the Amel 50/60 grey water tank vs. the prior models’ grey water in the bilge is that the tank doesn’t smell as it is hermetically sealed.  At least, that’s the theory.  So presumably you can wait longer to clean the tank …..

This summer, we used the cockpit drain on the starboard side for the first time to dispose of left over food stuff.  The problem is that whatever you throw down there has the tendency of ending up on the cockpit door which slides down into the space by the drain.  But one could put a board there to close the space off from the cockpit door.  Another option I’m considering.  Thanks everyone for your thoughts.  I would love to hear from the A55 owner who put in the through hull.  Does it gurgle like on Mark’s SM?  

Joerg

Joerg Esdorn
A55 #53 Kincsem
Currently in La Rochelle

 



 


 
Re: Number plate

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Thanks Trevor, I think you are right on both counts. As I said in my previous reply if we can identify the jurisdiction the plate refers to we could save people difficulties in getting their registered tonnage.

Kind Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean pearl

On 20 October 2021 at 09:43 Trevor Lusty <trevlusty@...> wrote:

Hi Danny,
               Years ago it was also called a carving mark, when the official registration number along with the registered tonnage were literally carved into a structural member of the vessel in a manner that they couldn't be tampered with or altered. The 24/100 is the registered tonnage measured in 100ths which relate to volume in cubic feet rather than tons weight. I think that the ratio was something like one imperial ton  was  the equivalent of 100 cubic feet of volume.
I vaguely remember Martin Bandy, who was the Amel UK representative explaining this to me when I bought my SM and a new plate had to be fitted. Typically Amel, Bandy never had a written formal contract, simply a gentleman's agreement to sell their boats.
If the second plate is in a similar format, is it possible that your boat got registered in a different country at some point by a new owner, hence the second plate in the engine room?
Best regards,
Trevor Lusty
Ireland
Re: Number plate

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Thanks Mike, I thought it may be pertinent to the recent questions about registered tonnage which of course as we know is not the weight of the boat. If we can work out which jurisdiction the plate belongs to we may save hassles getting a registered tonnage for some people.

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 20 October 2021 at 08:27 "Mike Johnson via groups.io" <mike.k.johnson@...> wrote:

 
Hi Danny,

The boats ‘marking plate’.

ON - Official Number
RT - Regulated Tonnage

Is my best guess.

Regards

Mike & Peta

SOLITUDE
SM 2K 461

On 19 Oct 2021, at 19:32, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:

Hi all. This wooden plate with numbers is fixed to the bulkhead inside the lazurette, on SM 299. I have no idea what it denotes. Any one Know?

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl


 


 
Re: Galley sink drains

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

We wipe all the dishes with paper towels before washing. NEVER put coffee grounds down the sink drain

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 20 October 2021 at 08:23 "ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@...>" <ianjudyjenkins@...> wrote:

Can I assume that everyone has a plastic washing up bowl in their galley sinks ? Its use reduces the volume of washing up water , saves the sink surface from being chipped by a careless saucepan and , not least , if you have really dirty washing up (a fish supper maybe) you can either tip the bowl overboard or down the head.

Fresh water and washing up liquid does the head no harm.

Failing that , in England young mothers use a product called Milton to sterilise babies’ bottles . Does a great job on an Amel bilge as well. 

Ian and Judy , Pen Azen , SM 302, Kilada, Greece

 

On 19 Oct 2021, at 20:57, Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...> wrote:

We flush the bilge several times with water and dish washing liquid once or twice every season and we do not have any issues with smell. I pour dish washing liquid in the bilge and leave the water hose running. This creates a large foam volume in the bilge. While the bilge pump runs, I also pump the manual pump that extracts all the solids from the bottom. I usually spend 2-4 hours a season on this task. In my opinion, the design is sound and eliminating this task by making an additional hole in the hull, creates more issues than it solves.

 

Also, as Bill stated, If I were looking at purchasing another Amel, this modification would certainly weigh heavily on the negative side.

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joerg Esdorn via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2021 10:43 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Galley sink drain

 

The other advantage of the Amel 50/60 grey water tank vs. the prior models’ grey water in the bilge is that the tank doesn’t smell as it is hermetically sealed.  At least, that’s the theory.  So presumably you can wait longer to clean the tank …..

This summer, we used the cockpit drain on the starboard side for the first time to dispose of left over food stuff.  The problem is that whatever you throw down there has the tendency of ending up on the cockpit door which slides down into the space by the drain.  But one could put a board there to close the space off from the cockpit door.  Another option I’m considering.  Thanks everyone for your thoughts.  I would love to hear from the A55 owner who put in the through hull.  Does it gurgle like on Mark’s SM?  

Joerg

Joerg Esdorn
A55 #53 Kincsem
Currently in La Rochelle

 



 


 
Re: Number plate

Trevor Lusty
 

Hi Danny,
               Years ago it was also called a carving mark, when the official registration number along with the registered tonnage were literally carved into a structural member of the vessel in a manner that they couldn't be tampered with or altered. The 24/100 is the registered tonnage measured in 100ths which relate to volume in cubic feet rather than tons weight. I think that the ratio was something like one imperial ton  was  the equivalent of 100 cubic feet of volume.
I vaguely remember Martin Bandy, who was the Amel UK representative explaining this to me when I bought my SM and a new plate had to be fitted. Typically Amel, Bandy never had a written formal contract, simply a gentleman's agreement to sell their boats.
If the second plate is in a similar format, is it possible that your boat got registered in a different country at some point by a new owner, hence the second plate in the engine room?
Best regards,
Trevor Lusty
Ireland
Re: Amel 54 displacement

Dominique Sery
 

Hello, the weight of my 54 with the water and diesel tanks half full has been measured at 21,000 kgs.

Dominique
Irko A54#16
Re: Number plate

Mike Johnson
 

Hi Danny,

The boats ‘marking plate’.

ON - Official Number
RT - Regulated Tonnage

Is my best guess.

Regards

Mike & Peta

SOLITUDE
SM 2K 461

On 19 Oct 2021, at 19:32, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:



Hi all. This wooden plate with numbers is fixed to the bulkhead inside the lazurette, on SM 299. I have no idea what it denotes. Any one Know?

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl
Re: Galley sink drains

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Can I assume that everyone has a plastic washing up bowl in their galley sinks ? Its use reduces the volume of washing up water , saves the sink surface from being chipped by a careless saucepan and , not least , if you have really dirty washing up (a fish supper maybe) you can either tip the bowl overboard or down the head.

Fresh water and washing up liquid does the head no harm.

Failing that , in England young mothers use a product called Milton to sterilise babies’ bottles . Does a great job on an Amel bilge as well. 

Ian and Judy , Pen Azen , SM 302, Kilada, Greece


On 19 Oct 2021, at 20:57, Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...> wrote:



We flush the bilge several times with water and dish washing liquid once or twice every season and we do not have any issues with smell. I pour dish washing liquid in the bilge and leave the water hose running. This creates a large foam volume in the bilge. While the bilge pump runs, I also pump the manual pump that extracts all the solids from the bottom. I usually spend 2-4 hours a season on this task. In my opinion, the design is sound and eliminating this task by making an additional hole in the hull, creates more issues than it solves.

 

Also, as Bill stated, If I were looking at purchasing another Amel, this modification would certainly weigh heavily on the negative side.

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joerg Esdorn via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2021 10:43 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Galley sink drain

 

The other advantage of the Amel 50/60 grey water tank vs. the prior models’ grey water in the bilge is that the tank doesn’t smell as it is hermetically sealed.  At least, that’s the theory.  So presumably you can wait longer to clean the tank …..

This summer, we used the cockpit drain on the starboard side for the first time to dispose of left over food stuff.  The problem is that whatever you throw down there has the tendency of ending up on the cockpit door which slides down into the space by the drain.  But one could put a board there to close the space off from the cockpit door.  Another option I’m considering.  Thanks everyone for your thoughts.  I would love to hear from the A55 owner who put in the through hull.  Does it gurgle like on Mark’s SM?  

Joerg

Joerg Esdorn
A55 #53 Kincsem
Currently in La Rochelle

Re: Number plate

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Thanks Michael, there is another fixed in the engine room with a completely  different set of numbers.

Danny

SM 299 Ocean Pearl

On 20 October 2021 at 07:56 Michael Winand <mickwinand@...> wrote:

That would be the registration of ship  numbers, 
Not sure what country. 
Michael Nebo sm251 

On Wed, 20 Oct 2021, 4:32 am Danny and Yvonne SIMMS, < simms@...> wrote:

Hi all. This wooden plate with numbers is fixed to the bulkhead inside the lazurette, on SM 299. I have no idea what it denotes. Any one Know?

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

 

 
Re: Number plate

Michael Winand
 

That would be the registration of ship  numbers, 
Not sure what country. 
Michael Nebo sm251 

On Wed, 20 Oct 2021, 4:32 am Danny and Yvonne SIMMS, <simms@...> wrote:

Hi all. This wooden plate with numbers is fixed to the bulkhead inside the lazurette, on SM 299. I have no idea what it denotes. Any one Know?

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl
Number plate

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi all. This wooden plate with numbers is fixed to the bulkhead inside the lazurette, on SM 299. I have no idea what it denotes. Any one Know?

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl
Re: Hardtop for Amel 54 and SM

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Steve, I agree, it looks very good.

Danny

SM 299 Ocean Pearl

On 20 October 2021 at 04:41 "Steve Bell s/y Dusk SM378 via groups.io" <stevect@...> wrote:

https://youtu.be/xOpJ0X_NQdE
Hi All.
Watch this youtube video I think it's one of the best hard tops I have seen Jump to the 
12 minute mark to see it.
Not sure which boat it is maybe someone out there can find out and who built it for them .
Regards

Steve
Dusk
SM 378

Re: Autopilot drive on a Amel Maramu 46ft

Warren Traill <trailz@...>
 

Thanks for that info Volker.
I also have a Sharki. Hull#15.
Could you give me the model # of the Raymarine unit you use with the Jefa drive?
And any photo of the set up in the compartment above the sink would be really helpful also.
I have no autopilot at all.
Thanks,
Warren
Manon2

Sent from Android device

On 17 Oct 2021 12:39 am, Volker <Puchta@...> wrote:
Dirk,
we do have a Sharki snd did install the second autpilot in the aft compartment as a complete independent drive from our old 6000 system.
The second system is a Raymarine with a Jefa drive. We are very pleased with its performance.

Volker
Mickmoon, Sharki hull 176
Re: Galley sink drain

Mohammad Shirloo
 

We flush the bilge several times with water and dish washing liquid once or twice every season and we do not have any issues with smell. I pour dish washing liquid in the bilge and leave the water hose running. This creates a large foam volume in the bilge. While the bilge pump runs, I also pump the manual pump that extracts all the solids from the bottom. I usually spend 2-4 hours a season on this task. In my opinion, the design is sound and eliminating this task by making an additional hole in the hull, creates more issues than it solves.

 

Also, as Bill stated, If I were looking at purchasing another Amel, this modification would certainly weigh heavily on the negative side.

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joerg Esdorn via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2021 10:43 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Galley sink drain

 

The other advantage of the Amel 50/60 grey water tank vs. the prior models’ grey water in the bilge is that the tank doesn’t smell as it is hermetically sealed.  At least, that’s the theory.  So presumably you can wait longer to clean the tank …..

This summer, we used the cockpit drain on the starboard side for the first time to dispose of left over food stuff.  The problem is that whatever you throw down there has the tendency of ending up on the cockpit door which slides down into the space by the drain.  But one could put a board there to close the space off from the cockpit door.  Another option I’m considering.  Thanks everyone for your thoughts.  I would love to hear from the A55 owner who put in the through hull.  Does it gurgle like on Mark’s SM?  

Joerg

Joerg Esdorn
A55 #53 Kincsem
Currently in La Rochelle

Re: Galley sink drain

Joerg Esdorn
 

The other advantage of the Amel 50/60 grey water tank vs. the prior models’ grey water in the bilge is that the tank doesn’t smell as it is hermetically sealed.  At least, that’s the theory.  So presumably you can wait longer to clean the tank …..

This summer, we used the cockpit drain on the starboard side for the first time to dispose of left over food stuff.  The problem is that whatever you throw down there has the tendency of ending up on the cockpit door which slides down into the space by the drain.  But one could put a board there to close the space off from the cockpit door.  Another option I’m considering.  Thanks everyone for your thoughts.  I would love to hear from the A55 owner who put in the through hull.  Does it gurgle like on Mark’s SM?  

Joerg

Joerg Esdorn
A55 #53 Kincsem
Currently in La Rochelle
Re: Hardtop for Amel 54 and SM

Brent Cameron
 

I quite like the extended side curtains on that video for the Super Maramu.  The 54 doesn’t really need that as they seemed to make them just a bit longer.  This is one of the best that I’ve seen.  I only understand a bit of French but from what I can gather, he had it built to his design (shows the drawings).  It is very much like a factory A55 hard top as the inside is as pretty and well done as the exterior with solar panels and a port light to see the mainsail built in. Soleil Bleu has since changed owners so not sure if the previous owner is still reachable.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DT7x0SjM648&t=1s

Brent

On Oct 19, 2021, 11:41 AM -0400, Steve Bell s/y Dusk SM378 via groups.io <stevect@...>, wrote:
https://youtu.be/xOpJ0X_NQdE
Hi All.
Watch this youtube video I think it's one of the best hard tops I have seen Jump to the 
12 minute mark to see it.
Not sure which boat it is maybe someone out there can find out and who built it for them .
Regards

Steve
Dusk
SM 378

--
Brent Cameron

Future Amel Owner & Amel Owner Registry Moderator

Oro-Medonte, Ontario, Canada
Re: Hardtop for Amel 54 and SM

Ann-Sofie, S/Y Lady Annila <ann-sofie@...>
 

It was the best solution so far, but I have some thoughts.
1. It is to low
2. You can’t open up forward, where the wind comes from
3. With the hatch in the roof, you have taken away the best position for solarpanels.


regards
Ann-Sofie
S/Y Lady Annila, SM232, 1998


Skickat från min iPhone

19/10/2021 kl. 16:41 skrev Steve Bell s/y Dusk SM378 via groups.io <stevect@...>:

https://youtu.be/xOpJ0X_NQdE
Hi All.
Watch this youtube video I think it's one of the best hard tops I have seen Jump to the 
12 minute mark to see it.
Not sure which boat it is maybe someone out there can find out and who built it for them .
Regards

Steve
Dusk
SM 378
Re: Furler /Foil connection ,rivets or machine screw

Gary Wells
 

Pat,
When I was in Martinique a while back Amel had the forestay down (for other damage) but they did replace the rivets with hex bolts that went into backing plates inside the foil.
They had the backing plates.ore-made and they fit inside the foil just right.
.
Much more robust than the rivets (better purchase) but..
It's bi-metal so steel against aluminum. So, the quandary was using tef-gel to prevent corrosion or using loc-tite to keep the bolts in place.

I opted on tef-gel and a re-tightening basically every month or after a spirited sail.

Cheers!
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