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Re: Standing rigging

Martin Birkhoff
 

Hi Ian,
I fully agree with Craig. 

You will find a lot of information worth to know here: https://support.seldenmast.com/files/595-540-E.pdf

Regards
Martin

SY Mago del Sur - 54#40
currently Marina di Ragusa, Sicily


Re: Standing rigging

Craig Briggs
 

Hi Ian,
Martin's figures are just the arithmetic for various wire sizes to get to 15% or to 20% of breaking strength, which, as he pointed out is what Selden recommends (15%). The 15% or 20% applies to all wire sizes and it doesn't matter what boat the wire is on. Do note that our SN's have some 6mm stays (marocain and artimon pataras) which has a 6351 pound breaking strength, so to be at 15%, the arithmetic gives you 950 pounds of tension.

You could certainly kick it up to the 20% figures Marin's guy Franck also shows to get to "Amel tight" although I've kept my mizzen backs at 15%. With new rigging you might want to go to the 20% initially to account for the stretch that will occur after some sailing. Nance and Underwood in Ft Lauderdale do an initial tune to 15%, btw. None of this is "rocket science". 
--
Craig Briggs - s/v Sangaris / SN68  Tropic Isle Harbor, FL


Re: Standing rigging

Ian Park
 

Martin
Do you know if these figures apply to Santorin and SM as well as the 54?

Ian
Ocean Hobo SN96


Re: 220 volt microwave replacement in SM

EricOpdeweegh
 

Hi Michael,

 

Wauw that is great.

I was in NE  from Cairns and did a 10 day liveaboard some years ago with Mike Ball . Fantastic

Also was down near near Townsville diving on the SS Malongo.  Super dive with all that the GB reef offers in one dive

 

Anyway enjoy

 

Fair winds

 

Eric  ( and Els) Opdeweegh

Sv Abayomi SM 158

Mr. P. C. Vermaatlaan 17

3176 XC Poortugaal (Rotterdam) The Netherlands

Phone  +31621240217

Email     sv.abayomi@...

 

 

 

 

 

Van: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> Namens Michael Winand
Verzonden: maandag 22 november 2021 10:18
Aan: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Onderwerp: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] 220 volt microwave replacement in SM

 

Eric we are currently on the nsw coast heading to Melbourne  Australia 

 

Regards Michael Nebo sm251 

 

On Mon, 22 Nov 2021, 6:40 pm EricOpdeweegh, <sv.abayomi@...> wrote:

Hi Michael, 

Thanks for your reply. 

Where are you stationed ?

Would love to see some photos of your set-up with the combi oven . 

 

Regards 

Eric & Els Opdeweegh

sv Abayomi

SM 158

Currently in Holland 

 

Op 22 nov. 2021 om 06:35 heeft Michael Winand <mickwinand@...> het volgende geschreven:



Hi Eric   we have a portable induction plate   sometimes we used it out in the cockpit. It just sits on the bench top or the gas top.

Michael Nebo sm251 

 

On Mon, 22 Nov 2021, 10:12 am EricOpdeweegh, <sv.abayomi@...> wrote:

Hi Michael, 

That sounds really nice. I assume you have the Original two gas burner ? 

Do you have some photos of the installation of the combi oven and the induction on top?

 

Regards 

Eric & Els Opdeweegh

sv Abayomi

SM 158

Currently in Holland 

 

 

Op 21 nov. 2021 om 23:42 heeft Michael Winand <mickwinand@...> het volgende geschreven:



We replaced the gas oven with the 

Whirlpool jt479 

I removed the gas oven from under the the gas burners, I know it sounds complicated but it was simple, still having gas hobs with the electric oven works well. It is gimbaled using the existing system. Can use a induction hob on top if required. 

This oven does everything really well. 

It won't fit in the existing space for the old aeg microwave, grill. 

We now have the extra space. 

 

Michael Nebo sm251 

 

On Sun, 21 Nov 2021, 11:27 pm Peter Forbes, <ppsforbes@...> wrote:

This is very interesting- we have never used our microwave (not once) and the combi electric oven/toaster is a really good thought.

 

Peter Forbes

Carango 54-035

Lymington UK

 

On Sun, 21 Nov 2021 at 10:42, Rudolf Waldispuehl <Rudolf@...> wrote:

Hi Nick

 

Absolutely right and thanks for the food for thought…

 

We checked dozens of products/possibilities for a fan oven/grill but the MW-space for those units is just too small, because of extra air space needed re heat dispersion.

The Dishwasher compartment could be an option on the length, but still need space on both side and maybe also too small. Need to check.

 

Thanks and best regards

 

Ruedi Waldispuehl

 

SY WASABI

AMEL54 #55

Almerimar

 

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Antworten an: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Datum: Sonntag, 21. November 2021 um 11:17
An: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Betreff: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] 220 volt microwave replacement in SM

 

Maybe it is a generational thing but we hardly ever use the microwave. I sometimes use the grill function but if I had an electric fan oven/grill then for sure we would use it. 

 

We could be in the market for a replacement.

 

What about heat dispersion? I guess one does not want to install a unit that just fits.

 

Does anyone know the size of the compartment on the 54?

 

On the subject of unused equipment; we never use the dishwasher….waste of valuable galley real estate IMHO. Maybe get rid of the dishwasher and install  a good combi oven, then use the microwave space as a custom plate rack…..food for thought...

 

All the best

 

Nick

 

S/Y Amelia

 

AML 54-019 Leros

On 21 Nov 2021, at 05:58, Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:

 

We replaced ours with a confection toaster oven. I can count on one hand how often we used the microwave. Now we have a vastly expanded menu thanks this. 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.ioOn Behalf Of Kevin Schmit
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2021 4:06 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] 220 volt microwave replacement in SM

 

I’m looking to purchase a new 220 volt microwave that fits in our SM microwave cabinet (approx 23”x13.5”x15”). Has anyone replaced theirs here in the USA and if so which model fits in the space without too much customization?
-- 
Kevin & Kristen Schmit
KIANA
SM #362
Currently in Brunswick, GA 

 

--

Best wishes

Peter Forbes

+44 (0) 7836 209730

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Re: 220 volt microwave replacement in SM

Michael Winand
 

Eric we are currently on the nsw coast heading to Melbourne  Australia 

Regards Michael Nebo sm251 

On Mon, 22 Nov 2021, 6:40 pm EricOpdeweegh, <sv.abayomi@...> wrote:
Hi Michael, 
Thanks for your reply. 
Where are you stationed ?
Would love to see some photos of your set-up with the combi oven . 

Regards 
Eric & Els Opdeweegh
sv Abayomi
SM 158
Currently in Holland 

Op 22 nov. 2021 om 06:35 heeft Michael Winand <mickwinand@...> het volgende geschreven:


Hi Eric   we have a portable induction plate   sometimes we used it out in the cockpit. It just sits on the bench top or the gas top.
Michael Nebo sm251 

On Mon, 22 Nov 2021, 10:12 am EricOpdeweegh, <sv.abayomi@...> wrote:
Hi Michael, 
That sounds really nice. I assume you have the Original two gas burner ? 
Do you have some photos of the installation of the combi oven and the induction on top?

Regards 
Eric & Els Opdeweegh
sv Abayomi
SM 158
Currently in Holland 


Op 21 nov. 2021 om 23:42 heeft Michael Winand <mickwinand@...> het volgende geschreven:


We replaced the gas oven with the 
Whirlpool jt479 
I removed the gas oven from under the the gas burners, I know it sounds complicated but it was simple, still having gas hobs with the electric oven works well. It is gimbaled using the existing system. Can use a induction hob on top if required. 
This oven does everything really well. 
It won't fit in the existing space for the old aeg microwave, grill. 
We now have the extra space. 

Michael Nebo sm251 

On Sun, 21 Nov 2021, 11:27 pm Peter Forbes, <ppsforbes@...> wrote:
This is very interesting- we have never used our microwave (not once) and the combi electric oven/toaster is a really good thought.

Peter Forbes
Carango 54-035
Lymington UK

On Sun, 21 Nov 2021 at 10:42, Rudolf Waldispuehl <Rudolf@...> wrote:

Hi Nick

 

Absolutely right and thanks for the food for thought…

 

We checked dozens of products/possibilities for a fan oven/grill but the MW-space for those units is just too small, because of extra air space needed re heat dispersion.

The Dishwasher compartment could be an option on the length, but still need space on both side and maybe also too small. Need to check.

 

Thanks and best regards

 

Ruedi Waldispuehl

 

SY WASABI

AMEL54 #55

Almerimar

 

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Antworten an: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Datum: Sonntag, 21. November 2021 um 11:17
An: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Betreff: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] 220 volt microwave replacement in SM

 

Maybe it is a generational thing but we hardly ever use the microwave. I sometimes use the grill function but if I had an electric fan oven/grill then for sure we would use it. 

 

We could be in the market for a replacement.

 

What about heat dispersion? I guess one does not want to install a unit that just fits.

 

Does anyone know the size of the compartment on the 54?

 

On the subject of unused equipment; we never use the dishwasher….waste of valuable galley real estate IMHO. Maybe get rid of the dishwasher and install  a good combi oven, then use the microwave space as a custom plate rack…..food for thought...

 

All the best

 

Nick

 

S/Y Amelia

 

AML 54-019 Leros

On 21 Nov 2021, at 05:58, Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:

 

We replaced ours with a confection toaster oven. I can count on one hand how often we used the microwave. Now we have a vastly expanded menu thanks this. 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Schmit
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2021 4:06 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] 220 volt microwave replacement in SM

 

I’m looking to purchase a new 220 volt microwave that fits in our SM microwave cabinet (approx 23”x13.5”x15”). Has anyone replaced theirs here in the USA and if so which model fits in the space without too much customization?
-- 
Kevin & Kristen Schmit
KIANA
SM #362
Currently in Brunswick, GA 

 

--
Best wishes
Peter Forbes
+44 (0) 7836 209730

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<20211122_163117.jpg>


Re: 220 volt microwave replacement in SM

EricOpdeweegh
 

Hi Michael, 
Thanks for your reply. 
Where are you stationed ?
Would love to see some photos of your set-up with the combi oven . 

Regards 
Eric & Els Opdeweegh
sv Abayomi
SM 158
Currently in Holland 

Op 22 nov. 2021 om 06:35 heeft Michael Winand <mickwinand@...> het volgende geschreven:


Hi Eric   we have a portable induction plate   sometimes we used it out in the cockpit. It just sits on the bench top or the gas top.
Michael Nebo sm251 

On Mon, 22 Nov 2021, 10:12 am EricOpdeweegh, <sv.abayomi@...> wrote:
Hi Michael, 
That sounds really nice. I assume you have the Original two gas burner ? 
Do you have some photos of the installation of the combi oven and the induction on top?

Regards 
Eric & Els Opdeweegh
sv Abayomi
SM 158
Currently in Holland 


Op 21 nov. 2021 om 23:42 heeft Michael Winand <mickwinand@...> het volgende geschreven:


We replaced the gas oven with the 
Whirlpool jt479 
I removed the gas oven from under the the gas burners, I know it sounds complicated but it was simple, still having gas hobs with the electric oven works well. It is gimbaled using the existing system. Can use a induction hob on top if required. 
This oven does everything really well. 
It won't fit in the existing space for the old aeg microwave, grill. 
We now have the extra space. 

Michael Nebo sm251 

On Sun, 21 Nov 2021, 11:27 pm Peter Forbes, <ppsforbes@...> wrote:
This is very interesting- we have never used our microwave (not once) and the combi electric oven/toaster is a really good thought.

Peter Forbes
Carango 54-035
Lymington UK

On Sun, 21 Nov 2021 at 10:42, Rudolf Waldispuehl <Rudolf@...> wrote:

Hi Nick

 

Absolutely right and thanks for the food for thought…

 

We checked dozens of products/possibilities for a fan oven/grill but the MW-space for those units is just too small, because of extra air space needed re heat dispersion.

The Dishwasher compartment could be an option on the length, but still need space on both side and maybe also too small. Need to check.

 

Thanks and best regards

 

Ruedi Waldispuehl

 

SY WASABI

AMEL54 #55

Almerimar

 

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Antworten an: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Datum: Sonntag, 21. November 2021 um 11:17
An: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Betreff: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] 220 volt microwave replacement in SM

 

Maybe it is a generational thing but we hardly ever use the microwave. I sometimes use the grill function but if I had an electric fan oven/grill then for sure we would use it. 

 

We could be in the market for a replacement.

 

What about heat dispersion? I guess one does not want to install a unit that just fits.

 

Does anyone know the size of the compartment on the 54?

 

On the subject of unused equipment; we never use the dishwasher….waste of valuable galley real estate IMHO. Maybe get rid of the dishwasher and install  a good combi oven, then use the microwave space as a custom plate rack…..food for thought...

 

All the best

 

Nick

 

S/Y Amelia

 

AML 54-019 Leros

On 21 Nov 2021, at 05:58, Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:

 

We replaced ours with a confection toaster oven. I can count on one hand how often we used the microwave. Now we have a vastly expanded menu thanks this. 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Schmit
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2021 4:06 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] 220 volt microwave replacement in SM

 

I’m looking to purchase a new 220 volt microwave that fits in our SM microwave cabinet (approx 23”x13.5”x15”). Has anyone replaced theirs here in the USA and if so which model fits in the space without too much customization?
-- 
Kevin & Kristen Schmit
KIANA
SM #362
Currently in Brunswick, GA 

 

--
Best wishes
Peter Forbes
+44 (0) 7836 209730

<20211122_093240.jpg>

<20211122_163117.jpg>


Re: 220 volt microwave replacement in SM

Michael Winand
 

Hi Eric   we have a portable induction plate   sometimes we used it out in the cockpit. It just sits on the bench top or the gas top.
Michael Nebo sm251 

On Mon, 22 Nov 2021, 10:12 am EricOpdeweegh, <sv.abayomi@...> wrote:
Hi Michael, 
That sounds really nice. I assume you have the Original two gas burner ? 
Do you have some photos of the installation of the combi oven and the induction on top?

Regards 
Eric & Els Opdeweegh
sv Abayomi
SM 158
Currently in Holland 


Op 21 nov. 2021 om 23:42 heeft Michael Winand <mickwinand@...> het volgende geschreven:


We replaced the gas oven with the 
Whirlpool jt479 
I removed the gas oven from under the the gas burners, I know it sounds complicated but it was simple, still having gas hobs with the electric oven works well. It is gimbaled using the existing system. Can use a induction hob on top if required. 
This oven does everything really well. 
It won't fit in the existing space for the old aeg microwave, grill. 
We now have the extra space. 

Michael Nebo sm251 

On Sun, 21 Nov 2021, 11:27 pm Peter Forbes, <ppsforbes@...> wrote:
This is very interesting- we have never used our microwave (not once) and the combi electric oven/toaster is a really good thought.

Peter Forbes
Carango 54-035
Lymington UK

On Sun, 21 Nov 2021 at 10:42, Rudolf Waldispuehl <Rudolf@...> wrote:

Hi Nick

 

Absolutely right and thanks for the food for thought…

 

We checked dozens of products/possibilities for a fan oven/grill but the MW-space for those units is just too small, because of extra air space needed re heat dispersion.

The Dishwasher compartment could be an option on the length, but still need space on both side and maybe also too small. Need to check.

 

Thanks and best regards

 

Ruedi Waldispuehl

 

SY WASABI

AMEL54 #55

Almerimar

 

Von: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> im Auftrag von "ngtnewington Newington via groups.io" <ngtnewington=aol.com@groups.io>
Antworten an: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Datum: Sonntag, 21. November 2021 um 11:17
An: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Betreff: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] 220 volt microwave replacement in SM

 

Maybe it is a generational thing but we hardly ever use the microwave. I sometimes use the grill function but if I had an electric fan oven/grill then for sure we would use it. 

 

We could be in the market for a replacement.

 

What about heat dispersion? I guess one does not want to install a unit that just fits.

 

Does anyone know the size of the compartment on the 54?

 

On the subject of unused equipment; we never use the dishwasher….waste of valuable galley real estate IMHO. Maybe get rid of the dishwasher and install  a good combi oven, then use the microwave space as a custom plate rack…..food for thought...

 

All the best

 

Nick

 

S/Y Amelia

 

AML 54-019 Leros

On 21 Nov 2021, at 05:58, Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:

 

We replaced ours with a confection toaster oven. I can count on one hand how often we used the microwave. Now we have a vastly expanded menu thanks this. 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Schmit
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2021 4:06 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] 220 volt microwave replacement in SM

 

I’m looking to purchase a new 220 volt microwave that fits in our SM microwave cabinet (approx 23”x13.5”x15”). Has anyone replaced theirs here in the USA and if so which model fits in the space without too much customization?
-- 
Kevin & Kristen Schmit
KIANA
SM #362
Currently in Brunswick, GA 

 

--
Best wishes
Peter Forbes
+44 (0) 7836 209730

<20211122_093240.jpg>


Re: 220 volt microwave replacement in SM

EricOpdeweegh
 

Hi Michael, 
That sounds really nice. I assume you have the Original two gas burner ? 
Do you have some photos of the installation of the combi oven and the induction on top?

Regards 
Eric & Els Opdeweegh
sv Abayomi
SM 158
Currently in Holland 


Op 21 nov. 2021 om 23:42 heeft Michael Winand <mickwinand@...> het volgende geschreven:


We replaced the gas oven with the 
Whirlpool jt479 
I removed the gas oven from under the the gas burners, I know it sounds complicated but it was simple, still having gas hobs with the electric oven works well. It is gimbaled using the existing system. Can use a induction hob on top if required. 
This oven does everything really well. 
It won't fit in the existing space for the old aeg microwave, grill. 
We now have the extra space. 

Michael Nebo sm251 

On Sun, 21 Nov 2021, 11:27 pm Peter Forbes, <ppsforbes@...> wrote:
This is very interesting- we have never used our microwave (not once) and the combi electric oven/toaster is a really good thought.

Peter Forbes
Carango 54-035
Lymington UK

On Sun, 21 Nov 2021 at 10:42, Rudolf Waldispuehl <Rudolf@...> wrote:

Hi Nick

 

Absolutely right and thanks for the food for thought…

 

We checked dozens of products/possibilities for a fan oven/grill but the MW-space for those units is just too small, because of extra air space needed re heat dispersion.

The Dishwasher compartment could be an option on the length, but still need space on both side and maybe also too small. Need to check.

 

Thanks and best regards

 

Ruedi Waldispuehl

 

SY WASABI

AMEL54 #55

Almerimar

 

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Antworten an: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Datum: Sonntag, 21. November 2021 um 11:17
An: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Betreff: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] 220 volt microwave replacement in SM

 

Maybe it is a generational thing but we hardly ever use the microwave. I sometimes use the grill function but if I had an electric fan oven/grill then for sure we would use it. 

 

We could be in the market for a replacement.

 

What about heat dispersion? I guess one does not want to install a unit that just fits.

 

Does anyone know the size of the compartment on the 54?

 

On the subject of unused equipment; we never use the dishwasher….waste of valuable galley real estate IMHO. Maybe get rid of the dishwasher and install  a good combi oven, then use the microwave space as a custom plate rack…..food for thought...

 

All the best

 

Nick

 

S/Y Amelia

 

AML 54-019 Leros

On 21 Nov 2021, at 05:58, Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:

 

We replaced ours with a confection toaster oven. I can count on one hand how often we used the microwave. Now we have a vastly expanded menu thanks this. 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Schmit
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2021 4:06 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] 220 volt microwave replacement in SM

 

I’m looking to purchase a new 220 volt microwave that fits in our SM microwave cabinet (approx 23”x13.5”x15”). Has anyone replaced theirs here in the USA and if so which model fits in the space without too much customization?
-- 
Kevin & Kristen Schmit
KIANA
SM #362
Currently in Brunswick, GA 

 

--
Best wishes
Peter Forbes
+44 (0) 7836 209730

<20211122_093240.jpg>


Re: 220 volt microwave replacement in SM

Michael Winand
 

We replaced the gas oven with the 
Whirlpool jt479 
I removed the gas oven from under the the gas burners, I know it sounds complicated but it was simple, still having gas hobs with the electric oven works well. It is gimbaled using the existing system. Can use a induction hob on top if required. 
This oven does everything really well. 
It won't fit in the existing space for the old aeg microwave, grill. 
We now have the extra space. 

Michael Nebo sm251 

On Sun, 21 Nov 2021, 11:27 pm Peter Forbes, <ppsforbes@...> wrote:
This is very interesting- we have never used our microwave (not once) and the combi electric oven/toaster is a really good thought.

Peter Forbes
Carango 54-035
Lymington UK

On Sun, 21 Nov 2021 at 10:42, Rudolf Waldispuehl <Rudolf@...> wrote:

Hi Nick

 

Absolutely right and thanks for the food for thought…

 

We checked dozens of products/possibilities for a fan oven/grill but the MW-space for those units is just too small, because of extra air space needed re heat dispersion.

The Dishwasher compartment could be an option on the length, but still need space on both side and maybe also too small. Need to check.

 

Thanks and best regards

 

Ruedi Waldispuehl

 

SY WASABI

AMEL54 #55

Almerimar

 

Von: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> im Auftrag von "ngtnewington Newington via groups.io" <ngtnewington=aol.com@groups.io>
Antworten an: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Datum: Sonntag, 21. November 2021 um 11:17
An: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Betreff: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] 220 volt microwave replacement in SM

 

Maybe it is a generational thing but we hardly ever use the microwave. I sometimes use the grill function but if I had an electric fan oven/grill then for sure we would use it. 

 

We could be in the market for a replacement.

 

What about heat dispersion? I guess one does not want to install a unit that just fits.

 

Does anyone know the size of the compartment on the 54?

 

On the subject of unused equipment; we never use the dishwasher….waste of valuable galley real estate IMHO. Maybe get rid of the dishwasher and install  a good combi oven, then use the microwave space as a custom plate rack…..food for thought...

 

All the best

 

Nick

 

S/Y Amelia

 

AML 54-019 Leros

On 21 Nov 2021, at 05:58, Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:

 

We replaced ours with a confection toaster oven. I can count on one hand how often we used the microwave. Now we have a vastly expanded menu thanks this. 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Schmit
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2021 4:06 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] 220 volt microwave replacement in SM

 

I’m looking to purchase a new 220 volt microwave that fits in our SM microwave cabinet (approx 23”x13.5”x15”). Has anyone replaced theirs here in the USA and if so which model fits in the space without too much customization?
-- 
Kevin & Kristen Schmit
KIANA
SM #362
Currently in Brunswick, GA 

 

--
Best wishes
Peter Forbes
+44 (0) 7836 209730


Re: Dehumidifier Drain Outlet

Dean Gillies
 

Hi folks,
Thanks for all the recommendations, suggestions and imaginative ideas.
To close out the initial question, my solution was to drain the dehumidifier down the galley sink.

I cleaned out the bilge completely and hooked up the bilge alarm switch to my Victron Cerbo system which I monitor via the internet. I can see the dehumidifier running cycle based on the modulation of the AC supply and I can see when the bilge pump operates.  If there is a bilge alarm then an email will be sent to me within minutes. 

I would have preferred to dump overboard, but this was extraordinarily awkward to accomplish without making boat modifications that I didn't like.  So I am comfortable with this solution.
Thanks again to all.
Dean
SV STELLA *****
A54-154
  


Re: Standing rigging

Martin Birkhoff
 

Hi Denis,

from Franck Chivée, La Rochelle, Greement, I got the numbers you can see in the sheet when he checked our rigging. Franck Chivée is rigger and very familiar with Amel and Amel rigs. Franck's figures are based on the values that Selden recommends. 

If there are some doubts concering your rigging ask him.
You can contact Franck by e-mail: larochellegreement@...

Diameter

breaking load in kg

nominal tension 15/100 in kg

nominal tension
20/100 in kg

7 mm

4.050

607

810

8 mm

5.220

783

1.044

10 mm

7.900

1.185

1.580

12 mm

11.055

1.658

2.211

 
The numbers are for 1/19 wires.

Regards
Martin

SY Mago del Sur - 54#40
currently Marina di Ragusa, Sicily


Re: Selling New Jordan Series Drogue

Chip Beaman
 

Davi,
  I just sent you an email to your gmail acct. 

CB
SM2K #430


On Nov 21, 2021, at 2:57 AM, Davi Rozgonyi <davi.rozgonyi@...> wrote:



Hey hey y'all, anyone need a brand new, never used, never even on a boat (stored in a heated garage in the USA) Jordan Series Drogue at 25 percent off? If you don't know what it is, Google it, because you need it if you go offshore or passages without a doubt--it's the best of the best for survival situations as I know a few on this forum can attest. I had one made for our Super maramu a few years back, but then we fell in love with Greece and aren't likely to ever leave 😁🇬🇷 The specs are: 147 cones, hybrid dyneema rode, made for up to 40,000 pounds displacement. Fits (and currently lives in) a suitcase in Colorado, FedEx shipping is about 400 bucks in the US I think. I paid 2200 plus 400 shipping, you can have it for 1700 plus shipping or pickup if you can arrange it. Pics for reference, not my shots... 

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Re: 220 volt microwave replacement in SM

Peter Forbes
 

This is very interesting- we have never used our microwave (not once) and the combi electric oven/toaster is a really good thought.

Peter Forbes
Carango 54-035
Lymington UK

On Sun, 21 Nov 2021 at 10:42, Rudolf Waldispuehl <Rudolf@...> wrote:

Hi Nick

 

Absolutely right and thanks for the food for thought…

 

We checked dozens of products/possibilities for a fan oven/grill but the MW-space for those units is just too small, because of extra air space needed re heat dispersion.

The Dishwasher compartment could be an option on the length, but still need space on both side and maybe also too small. Need to check.

 

Thanks and best regards

 

Ruedi Waldispuehl

 

SY WASABI

AMEL54 #55

Almerimar

 

Von: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> im Auftrag von "ngtnewington Newington via groups.io" <ngtnewington=aol.com@groups.io>
Antworten an: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Datum: Sonntag, 21. November 2021 um 11:17
An: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Betreff: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] 220 volt microwave replacement in SM

 

Maybe it is a generational thing but we hardly ever use the microwave. I sometimes use the grill function but if I had an electric fan oven/grill then for sure we would use it. 

 

We could be in the market for a replacement.

 

What about heat dispersion? I guess one does not want to install a unit that just fits.

 

Does anyone know the size of the compartment on the 54?

 

On the subject of unused equipment; we never use the dishwasher….waste of valuable galley real estate IMHO. Maybe get rid of the dishwasher and install  a good combi oven, then use the microwave space as a custom plate rack…..food for thought...

 

All the best

 

Nick

 

S/Y Amelia

 

AML 54-019 Leros

On 21 Nov 2021, at 05:58, Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:

 

We replaced ours with a confection toaster oven. I can count on one hand how often we used the microwave. Now we have a vastly expanded menu thanks this. 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Schmit
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2021 4:06 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] 220 volt microwave replacement in SM

 

I’m looking to purchase a new 220 volt microwave that fits in our SM microwave cabinet (approx 23”x13.5”x15”). Has anyone replaced theirs here in the USA and if so which model fits in the space without too much customization?
-- 
Kevin & Kristen Schmit
KIANA
SM #362
Currently in Brunswick, GA 

 

--
Best wishes
Peter Forbes
+44 (0) 7836 209730


Selling New Jordan Series Drogue

Davi Rozgonyi
 

Hey hey y'all, anyone need a brand new, never used, never even on a boat (stored in a heated garage in the USA) Jordan Series Drogue at 25 percent off? If you don't know what it is, Google it, because you need it if you go offshore or passages without a doubt--it's the best of the best for survival situations as I know a few on this forum can attest. I had one made for our Super maramu a few years back, but then we fell in love with Greece and aren't likely to ever leave 😁🇬🇷 The specs are: 147 cones, hybrid dyneema rode, made for up to 40,000 pounds displacement. Fits (and currently lives in) a suitcase in Colorado, FedEx shipping is about 400 bucks in the US I think. I paid 2200 plus 400 shipping, you can have it for 1700 plus shipping or pickup if you can arrange it. Pics for reference, not my shots... 


Re: 220 volt microwave replacement in SM

WASABI - Rudolf Waldispuehl
 

Hi Nick

 

Absolutely right and thanks for the food for thought…

 

We checked dozens of products/possibilities for a fan oven/grill but the MW-space for those units is just too small, because of extra air space needed re heat dispersion.

The Dishwasher compartment could be an option on the length, but still need space on both side and maybe also too small. Need to check.

 

Thanks and best regards

 

Ruedi Waldispuehl

 

SY WASABI

AMEL54 #55

Almerimar

 

Von: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> im Auftrag von "ngtnewington Newington via groups.io" <ngtnewington@...>
Antworten an: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Datum: Sonntag, 21. November 2021 um 11:17
An: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Betreff: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] 220 volt microwave replacement in SM

 

Maybe it is a generational thing but we hardly ever use the microwave. I sometimes use the grill function but if I had an electric fan oven/grill then for sure we would use it. 

 

We could be in the market for a replacement.

 

What about heat dispersion? I guess one does not want to install a unit that just fits.

 

Does anyone know the size of the compartment on the 54?

 

On the subject of unused equipment; we never use the dishwasher….waste of valuable galley real estate IMHO. Maybe get rid of the dishwasher and install  a good combi oven, then use the microwave space as a custom plate rack…..food for thought...

 

All the best

 

Nick

 

S/Y Amelia

 

AML 54-019 Leros

On 21 Nov 2021, at 05:58, Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:

 

We replaced ours with a confection toaster oven. I can count on one hand how often we used the microwave. Now we have a vastly expanded menu thanks this. 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Schmit
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2021 4:06 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] 220 volt microwave replacement in SM

 

I’m looking to purchase a new 220 volt microwave that fits in our SM microwave cabinet (approx 23”x13.5”x15”). Has anyone replaced theirs here in the USA and if so which model fits in the space without too much customization?
-- 
Kevin & Kristen Schmit
KIANA
SM #362
Currently in Brunswick, GA 

 


Re: 220 volt microwave replacement in SM

Nick Newington
 

Maybe it is a generational thing but we hardly ever use the microwave. I sometimes use the grill function but if I had an electric fan oven/grill then for sure we would use it. 

We could be in the market for a replacement.

What about heat dispersion? I guess one does not want to install a unit that just fits.

Does anyone know the size of the compartment on the 54?

On the subject of unused equipment; we never use the dishwasher….waste of valuable galley real estate IMHO. Maybe get rid of the dishwasher and install  a good combi oven, then use the microwave space as a custom plate rack…..food for thought...

All the best

Nick

S/Y Amelia

AML 54-019 Leros

On 21 Nov 2021, at 05:58, Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:

We replaced ours with a confection toaster oven. I can count on one hand how often we used the microwave. Now we have a vastly expanded menu thanks this. 
 
 
With best regards,
 
Mark
 
Skipper
Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275
Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia
 
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Schmit
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2021 4:06 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] 220 volt microwave replacement in SM
 
I’m looking to purchase a new 220 volt microwave that fits in our SM microwave cabinet (approx 23”x13.5”x15”). Has anyone replaced theirs here in the USA and if so which model fits in the space without too much customization?
-- 
Kevin & Kristen Schmit
KIANA
SM #362
Currently in Brunswick, GA 



Re: 220 volt microwave replacement in SM

WASABI - Rudolf Waldispuehl
 

Hi Marc

We also rarely use our microwave but my wife would love to get a real heating oven instead. 
Can you please let me know what brand of convection oven you installed and what are the measures?

Thanks and best regards 
Ruedi
WASABI, A54#55
Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 21.11.2021 um 12:59 schrieb Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...>:



We replaced ours with a confection toaster oven. I can count on one hand how often we used the microwave. Now we have a vastly expanded menu thanks this.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Schmit
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2021 4:06 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] 220 volt microwave replacement in SM

 

I’m looking to purchase a new 220 volt microwave that fits in our SM microwave cabinet (approx 23”x13.5”x15”). Has anyone replaced theirs here in the USA and if so which model fits in the space without too much customization?
--
Kevin & Kristen Schmit
KIANA
SM #362
Currently in Brunswick, GA


Re: 220 volt microwave replacement in SM

Mark Erdos
 

We replaced ours with a confection toaster oven. I can count on one hand how often we used the microwave. Now we have a vastly expanded menu thanks this.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Schmit
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2021 4:06 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] 220 volt microwave replacement in SM

 

I’m looking to purchase a new 220 volt microwave that fits in our SM microwave cabinet (approx 23”x13.5”x15”). Has anyone replaced theirs here in the USA and if so which model fits in the space without too much customization?
--
Kevin & Kristen Schmit
KIANA
SM #362
Currently in Brunswick, GA


Re: National ensign on top of mizzen mast

Nick Newington
 

So, to fly the ensign from the top of the mizzen the vessel must be under way. You would then have to drop it and fly it from the taffrail at anchor or moored…or have I mis-understood the rules?

I have noticed that Dutch and Scandinavian boats often fly their ensigns from the mizzen mast and it looks nice but…. I would not in countries that are sensitive about courtesy flags, such as Turkey and many others…you may find yourself at the receiving end of an angry official. In such countries I like to buy a slightly larger courtesy flag than normal and make sure it is in good condition and keep it high….
Nick

Amelia

AML 54-019

Leros (ashore for the winter)


On 20 Nov 2021, at 17:32, Joerg Esdorn via groups.io <jhe1313@...> wrote:

Gentlemen, let me point you to the attached YRA guidance on where to fly the national ensign, which I received from A54 owner Peter Forbes some time ago.  Please see 4b.  It‘s ok to fly the mizzen on top of the mizzen and in fact, it‘s done quite frequently in Germany and the Nordic countries.  I did it myself on an earlier boat in the 70s (dating myself here).
 
I‘d be very interested in seeing how it‘s done mechanically given all the antennas on top of the mizzen of an Amel.  Many thanks in advance!

Joerg Esdorn  <YRA Flag Etiquette.pdf>


Re: National ensign on top of mizzen mast

Joerg Esdorn
 

Gentlemen, let me point you to the attached YRA guidance on where to fly the national ensign, which I received from A54 owner Peter Forbes some time ago.  Please see 4b.  It‘s ok to fly the mizzen on top of the mizzen and in fact, it‘s done quite frequently in Germany and the Nordic countries.  I did it myself on an earlier boat in the 70s (dating myself here).
 
I‘d be very interested in seeing how it‘s done mechanically given all the antennas on top of the mizzen of an Amel.  Many thanks in advance!

Joerg Esdorn 

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