Re: Should I Refit a Furuno or choose a B&G plotter?
Scott SV Tengah
Arno,
Just curious - how much did that entire system cost you? Which radar do you have? We have the Navnet VX2 so perhaps our radar is older and won't work with the TZ2. Ours works reasonably well aside from GPS rollover bugs (ha!) and I'm loathe to upgrade since you confirmed what I feared: "But it was a lot of work installing it all." -- Scott 2007 A54 #69 SV Tengah http://www.svtengah.com
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Re: Check your GPS / AIS devices. Some of them failed on Jan 2, 2022 due to the "GPS Rollover" bug
Scott SV Tengah
Bill,
I have the relevant files for the devices I have onboard. The issue is that I cannot connect to my GP-150 through the Furuno update software, even though I have been able to connect using Opencpn for years. But thanks for posting - others can give it a go and report back. -- Scott 2007 A54 #69 SV Tengah http://www.svtengah.com
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Re: Check your GPS / AIS devices. Some of them failed on Jan 2, 2022 due to the "GPS Rollover" bug
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On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 2:51 PM Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...> wrote: I successfully updated my FA-50 AIS. Had to make a crossover ethernet cable since we don't have a hub onboard and the tiny shops on the remote South Pacific atolls are out of fresh vegetables and don't seem to carry crossover ethernet cables, either. ;) A bit of splicing + turning off windows firewall and I was able to update our FA-50.
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Re: Check your GPS / AIS devices. Some of them failed on Jan 2, 2022 due to the "GPS Rollover" bug
Scott SV Tengah
I successfully updated my FA-50 AIS. Had to make a crossover ethernet cable since we don't have a hub onboard and the tiny shops on the remote South Pacific atolls are out of fresh vegetables and don't seem to carry crossover ethernet cables, either. ;) A bit of splicing + turning off windows firewall and I was able to update our FA-50.
Do you have the GP-150? I cannot connect to it to update it. I have the serial output on Data4 enabled with a DB9 output and then connected to a DB9-USB converter. I have been using that for years to provide GPS data to my computer, but I can't get the Furuno update software to connect. FYI - We know a SM with Garmin and they have been blissfully unaware that they may have been transmitting erroneous AIS position information since 2019. It is not a Furuno specific bug. It's easy to remain unaware that your reported position is missing or incorrect. -- Scott 2007 A54 #69 SV Tengah http://www.svtengah.com
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Re: In Mast Furling
Hello Joerg,
Since we got these sails we never had any problem furling them downwind or on broad reach. The only problem that can occur when unfurling is that the top of the first batten gets caught in the V1 shroud. To avoid this, we bring the boom closer if necessary.
From our point of view one of the most important skills a bluewater yacht must have is the ability to reef and furl main (and mizzen) on all courses to the wind. It may sound strange but my captain and I voted for full battened sails because we were (and still are) convinced that it is the most reliable solution using an in mast furling system. --- Interesting to see your pics, Laurens. The front battens end clearly above the foot. This certainly makes it much easier to pull out the battens compared to our design. The sails on the pics have fewer battens: 4 and 3 instead of 5 and 4 like ours. The sail cloth seems to be membrane instead of our laminate fabrics (triradial).
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Re: In Mast Furling
Dave_Benjamin
As a sailmaker, I hope that your Elvstrom representative is local and can sort out any issues you have in person. When adding battens to a furling mainsail, we are eliminating leech hollow somewhat or completely and in some cases adding some positive roach. I've been very cautious with battens in furling mains because we've seen some fellow cruisers have issues with them. I think the advantage of attempting this on the Amel is that the cavity is generously sized unlike the masts we encounter on common production boats. The way Henri designed these boats was with a low aspect ratio sailplan that relies more on the genoa to drive the boat. The performance gains of adding battens to furling mains on an Amel are not the same gains that someone with a high aspect sloop rig would have. Also, the gains are most notable while sailing upwind, which whilst cruising, hopefully we are not doing so much of. Many years ago we set up an Oyster furling main with partial battens to eliminate hollow and the boat transited the Southern Ocean without issue. Regards, Dave Benjamin
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Re: Should I Refit a Furuno or choose a B&G plotter?
Joan, I have the Navnet TZ Touch 14 plotter on my boat (#53 from 2016) integrated with a laptop at the chart table running the Time Zero Professional software. The laptop uses the same charts as the plotter - so you don't have to buy separate licenses. The TZ Professional integrates very well with the TZT so I do all my course work and navigation at the laptop with a mouse and send the courses to the plotter at the press of a button. This is much easier than working on the plotter or a second plotter down below. I have the B&G 5000 system for sailing instruments which are great. I like the overall system very much but I don't like the Furuno autopilots - they are made for fishing and motorboats, not sailboats. I find it impossible to adjust the sensitivity to my liking and the "learning" function seems to have no brain for sailing at all. for example, every time the wind speed changes by a few knots and the balance of the boat changes as a result, the pilot initially will keep the old rudder angle for a few minutes rather than keeping the course to the apparent wind constant. Eventually, it "learns" but it takes way too long and meanwhile the sails are flogging or way overtrimmed.
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Re: Should I Refit a Furuno or choose a B&G plotter?
Arno,
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Brilliant thank you - please send me the schematic circuit diagram and equipment list. i think I will follow your example. best wishes Peter Peter Forbes The Old Rectory Farnham Blandford DT11 8 DE 07836 209730
On 10 Jan 2022, at 12:00, Arno Luijten <arno.luijten@...> wrote:
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Re: Should I Refit a Furuno or choose a B&G plotter?
Hi Joan,
I can tell you what I have done on our 54. Originally our boat came with the Navnet3D system, two 502 Autopilots and the B&G H3000 set. Although the Navnet 3D is not a bad system the power consumption is very high. Having tough about the situation for some time I decided to go for Furuno for most stuff as that was the most cost effective. I replaced the course computers and control boxes with the new 702 generation. They work excellent. You may need to update the software on the computers if you have problems. The NavNet 3D has been replaced with the Navnet TZ2 blackbox. This box can drive two displays independently so it now drives the inside screen and a new outside screen that replaced the 12" Navnet plotter that was there. I kept the radar, AIS and weatherfax as all work together with the new TZ2 blackbox. The instruments are replaced with Furuno's FI70. I bought a NMEA183 multiplexer and NMEA2000 bridge (Shipmodul Miniplex) to get data to and from the H3000 CPU and the NMEA2000 backbone. A TCP/IP bridge puts all navdata on the local WiFi network. The system works very good and kept the costs acceptable. It takes about 25% of the power of the original system. But it was a lot of work installing it all. If you want I can send you the schematic diagram of the system. Kind regards, Arno Luijten SV Luna, A54-121
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Re: Check your GPS / AIS devices. Some of them failed on Jan 2, 2022 due to the "GPS Rollover" bug
Yep same issue on my boat, A55 Renaissance 3 and also Another 55 Serenity in Sydney, all went silent mode and date went to may 2002, I got the date back by changing the time source to my TZ15. Have to contact Furuno on how to get the ais transmit back.
Bob Grey Renaissance 3 A55 #25
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Re: Check your GPS / AIS devices. Some of them failed on Jan 2, 2022 due to the "GPS Rollover" bug
Wolfgang Weber
Hi Scott, I found some help ( softwareupdate etc) for this problem. Wolfgang SY ELISE Amel 54 #162 La Rochelle
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Re: Should I Refit a Furuno or choose a B&G plotter?
Bruno,
That is indeed very luxurious! And I guess you have some b&g displays at the helm? Or do you use the the Zeus with sailsteer? What about your autopilot? Sorry for all the questions. Kind regards, Joan
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Re: Should I Refit a Furuno or choose a B&G plotter?
Bruno COTTE
I have a TZ2 16 inches plus a 9 inches Zeus 3S ( Zeus with Navionics or front looking BG sonar ) and TZ2 with C map .
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At the table chart I have a 16inched Zeus 3S BG and a Furuno 9inches … it is a little bit luxury and you ca ´ use an iPad with navionics or c map but both maps are complementary due to my previous experience sailing around the world . The Furuno chart plotter is excellent and very fluid . Envoyé de mon iPhone
Le 9 janv. 2022 à 21:28, Joan Blaas <joan.blaas@...> a écrit :
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Re: Should I Refit a Furuno or choose a B&G plotter?
Hi Bruno,
I have an older model the FURUNO Radar Chartplotter NavNet Vx2 RDP149. Unfortunately the screen has become unreadable due to UV damage. My helmstation isn't very fancy yet. (See photo). Do you have the Furuno TZ2 12 inch or 16 inch? And B&G H3000 or H5000? Kind regards, Joan
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Re: Should I Refit a Furuno or choose a B&G plotter?
Bruno COTTE
On my A 55#63 I am very happy with the Furuno TZ2 plotter . What problems have you ?
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Envoyé de mon iPhone
Le 9 janv. 2022 à 20:12, Joan Blaas <joan.blaas@...> a écrit :
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Re: From 230V to 120V
#alignment
Bertrand,
Our experience (7 years and counting) is in 110v countries the marinas offer a 220 shore-power source. Without 220v, they will seriously limit their appeal for boats docking with them. We have yet to encounter no 220 power option.
With best regards,
Mark
Skipper Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275 Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia www.creampuff.us
From:
main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Bertrand Quénot
Hi all,
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Should I Refit a Furuno or choose a B&G plotter?
Dear fellow Amel owners,
The original Furuno Navnet plotter & radar on my Amel 55 needs to be replaced. I also have a b&g H3000 Hydra system as wel as two Furuno Fab 7002 autopilots. The Hydra works fine the autopilots have a bit a mind of their own... I now only want to replace the plotter & radar and later on this year/next year replace the whole system. We are planning a Atlantic circumnavigation in 2023/2024. I need some advice / opinion what I should do? Should I stick to the Amel tradition with a Furuno plotter/radar (and complexity of a multi brand system) or gradually move to an B&G only system? And what model should I choose? Your experience and advise.is highly appreciated. Kind regards, Joan SV Caconano Amel55 #05
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Re: Genoa car control wheel
Thomas Kleman
Thanks, Bill and Bill- While tefgel is clever, I think its kind of a band-aid approach. I’m hoping Mark McGovern is reading this and can send info on the stainless steel wheels to “lorient422” at gmail.
Thomas Kleman SV L’ORIENT SM2K 422 Society Islands
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Re: Lewmar winch service kit
Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
Thank Ulrich, a great help.
Cheers, Paul
Paul Dowd & Sharon Brown S/Y Ya Fohi, Amel 54 #98 skype: pauldowd
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ulrich Michael Dangelmeyer
Sent: 06 January 2022 17:34 To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Lewmar winch service kit
Dear Paul,
on „Soleil Bleu“ (hull no 088 from 2008) we have both Lewmar 58 electric winches for the genoa /main headsail and Lewmar 46 manual winches for the stay sail / jib.
just had a look into my boat pic doku. Hope this helps.
all the Best. Ulrich.
Am 06.01.2022 um 16:45 schrieb Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...>:
-- Cheers Paul Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98
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Re: Genoa car control wheel
You are referring to Mark McGovern, and if Henri could have a "do-over" I believe that Henri would have done what Mark created.
On Sat, Jan 8, 2022 at 11:29 PM Eric Freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:
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