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Re: GPS Rollover

bernard lawson
 

it's apparently a safety bulletin?


Re: Check your GPS / AIS devices. Some of them failed on Jan 2, 2022 due to the "GPS Rollover" bug

Porter McRoberts
 

Happily. I’ll send. 
He took about 15 restarts in both his laptop and the GP150 before the update would go through. And then it did. Like finding the hammer in the drawer on the 15th look. 



Porter McRoberts 
S/V IBIS 
WhatsApp:+1 754 265 2206
Www.fouribis.net

On Jan 12, 2022, at 6:09 AM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:


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On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 3:09 AM Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...> wrote:
Did he charge for this service ?

Mind giving me his contact info? I have the software and instructions for the gp150 and the data cable for data4, but am having trouble getting the update software to connect to the gp150.



On Mon, Jan 10, 2022, 22:28 Porter McRoberts via groups.io <portermcroberts=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Yes Scott correct on both points. We have the 150 and successfully reprogrammed. And we had a software option to change the transmit to silence mode which we no longer have. 



Porter McRoberts 
S/V IBIS A54-152
WhatsApp:+1 754 265 2206

On Jan 11, 2022, at 6:03 PM, Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...> wrote:



Porter,

 

You have the GP-150 and he successfully reprogrammed it?

 

For the FA-50, I always had the hard switch. My understanding was that the software “silent mode” was not available on the FA-50, even prior to the update.

 

From: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of "Porter McRoberts via groups.io" <portermcroberts=yahoo.com@groups.io>
Reply-To: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Date: Monday, January 10, 2022 at 8:15 PM
To: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Check your GPS / AIS devices. Some of them failed on Jan 2, 2022 due to the "GPS Rollover" bug

 

We just had furuno Brisbane reprogram both the GPS and the AIS. Interesting note. No longer to silence the AIS using software, which was important to us on rare occasion.  The tech gave me the wiring diagram for the power wire to the GPS which allows a hard silencing: close the circuit between the purple and grey wires= AIS silent mode. 

 

 

<image.png>

 

 

Also date is correct after his reprogramming. 

 

 

Happy sailing, 

Porter McRoberts 

S/V IBIS A54-152

WhatsApp:+1 754 265 2206



On Jan 11, 2022, at 10:42 AM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:



Myfuruno gp 32 gps and my furino chart plotter have gone to May 2002 date. Position is OK on both as I have external aerials. ENL the NZ distributors for furuno say the date cannt be corrected and (what a surprise) recommend a replacement as the solution. Pity  abuse I like my old fashio I have a newer furuno VX 2 as my radar. Will see if I  an patch the date from that. It talks to the plotter and I can full or split screen  the radar to the plotter.

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 11/01/2022 09:51 Scott SV Tengah <scott.nguyen@...> wrote:

 

 

I successfully updated my FA-50 AIS. Had to make a crossover ethernet cable since we don't have a hub onboard and the tiny shops on the remote South Pacific atolls are out of fresh vegetables and don't seem to carry crossover ethernet cables, either. ;)  A bit of splicing + turning off windows firewall and I was able to update our FA-50.

Do you have the GP-150? I cannot connect to it to update it. I have the serial output on Data4 enabled with a DB9 output and then connected to a DB9-USB converter. I have been using that for years to provide GPS data to my computer, but I can't get the Furuno update software to connect.

FYI - We know a SM with Garmin and they have been blissfully unaware that they may have been transmitting erroneous AIS position information since 2019. It is not a Furuno specific bug. It's easy to remain unaware that your reported position is missing or incorrect. 

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: Check your GPS / AIS devices. Some of them failed on Jan 2, 2022 due to the "GPS Rollover" bug

 

image.png


On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 3:09 AM Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...> wrote:
Did he charge for this service ?

Mind giving me his contact info? I have the software and instructions for the gp150 and the data cable for data4, but am having trouble getting the update software to connect to the gp150.



On Mon, Jan 10, 2022, 22:28 Porter McRoberts via groups.io <portermcroberts=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Yes Scott correct on both points. We have the 150 and successfully reprogrammed. And we had a software option to change the transmit to silence mode which we no longer have. 



Porter McRoberts 
S/V IBIS A54-152
WhatsApp:+1 754 265 2206

On Jan 11, 2022, at 6:03 PM, Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...> wrote:



Porter,

 

You have the GP-150 and he successfully reprogrammed it?

 

For the FA-50, I always had the hard switch. My understanding was that the software “silent mode” was not available on the FA-50, even prior to the update.

 

From: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of "Porter McRoberts via groups.io" <portermcroberts=yahoo.com@groups.io>
Reply-To: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Date: Monday, January 10, 2022 at 8:15 PM
To: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Check your GPS / AIS devices. Some of them failed on Jan 2, 2022 due to the "GPS Rollover" bug

 

We just had furuno Brisbane reprogram both the GPS and the AIS. Interesting note. No longer to silence the AIS using software, which was important to us on rare occasion.  The tech gave me the wiring diagram for the power wire to the GPS which allows a hard silencing: close the circuit between the purple and grey wires= AIS silent mode. 

 

 

<image.png>

 

 

Also date is correct after his reprogramming. 

 

 

Happy sailing, 

Porter McRoberts 

S/V IBIS A54-152

WhatsApp:+1 754 265 2206



On Jan 11, 2022, at 10:42 AM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:



Myfuruno gp 32 gps and my furino chart plotter have gone to May 2002 date. Position is OK on both as I have external aerials. ENL the NZ distributors for furuno say the date cannt be corrected and (what a surprise) recommend a replacement as the solution. Pity  abuse I like my old fashio I have a newer furuno VX 2 as my radar. Will see if I  an patch the date from that. It talks to the plotter and I can full or split screen  the radar to the plotter.

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 11/01/2022 09:51 Scott SV Tengah <scott.nguyen@...> wrote:

 

 

I successfully updated my FA-50 AIS. Had to make a crossover ethernet cable since we don't have a hub onboard and the tiny shops on the remote South Pacific atolls are out of fresh vegetables and don't seem to carry crossover ethernet cables, either. ;)  A bit of splicing + turning off windows firewall and I was able to update our FA-50.

Do you have the GP-150? I cannot connect to it to update it. I have the serial output on Data4 enabled with a DB9 output and then connected to a DB9-USB converter. I have been using that for years to provide GPS data to my computer, but I can't get the Furuno update software to connect.

FYI - We know a SM with Garmin and they have been blissfully unaware that they may have been transmitting erroneous AIS position information since 2019. It is not a Furuno specific bug. It's easy to remain unaware that your reported position is missing or incorrect. 

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: From 230V to 120V #alignment

Matt & Michelle
 

Baomain Universal Rotary Changeover Cam Switch SZW26-63/D303.3D 660V 63A 3 Position 3 Phase with Master Switch Exterior Box LW28-63/4
(can be obtained on Amazon, or a chandlery for 4X as much; BlueSea also makes similar switches)

Another option I thought about was feeding the shore power input to two 32A breakers in parallel.  To do so, I would need a junction box.  Well, the switch is effectively a junction box...so why make things more complicated.  I only mention it in case you are remote and cannot get a rotary switch.
 

Hope the info is helpful.

Matt


Re: From 230V to 120V #alignment

Scott SV Tengah
 

Great solution that's more elegant than my intended manual rewiring. Can you post a link to the switch you used?


On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 9:29 AM Matt & Michelle Day, SM#208 SV Talia <charlesmatthewday@...> wrote:
Scott,

Our Quattro, installed last October, functions as you stated with reference to frequency.  Our solution is similar, we installed a Skylla-IP65 24/35 120-240V charger with a high capacity switch at the 30A shore power breaker.  We can then charge with the Skylla (bypassing the Quattro input), and use the Quattro to invert supplying 50Hz.

Matt
SM208
SV Talia 

 

 


--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: From 230V to 120V #alignment

Matt & Michelle
 

Scott,

Our Quattro, installed last October, functions as you stated with reference to frequency.  Our solution is similar, we installed a Skylla-IP65 24/35 120-240V charger with a high capacity switch at the 30A shore power breaker.  We can then charge with the Skylla (bypassing the Quattro input), and use the Quattro to invert supplying 50Hz.

Matt
SM208
SV Talia 

 

 


Re: From 230V to 120V #alignment

Scott SV Tengah
 

Absolutely right.

 

I asked my high level Victron contact if I could have my 2018 vintage Quattro take 240v/60hz shore power and just use it to charge, but NOT pass it through. He said “no”. Maybe the newer Victrons or maybe the Mastervolts can do that?

As mentioned, our solution is to charge for an hour or two and even with AC running, we’re good for almost 24 hours on battery. Then plug back in to charge them back up and repeat.

 

Not the most elegant solution, but we have not and do not anticipate staying in marinas that much. If we did at some point and want to be really lazy, I’ll probably just rewire so 60hz shore power ONLY goes to our secondary Skylla 80 amp charger and have that charge all day and then just run everything off the 50hz producing Quattro inverter.


 

From: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Dan Carlson <carlsdan61@...>
Reply-To: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Date: Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 6:05 AM
To: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] From 230V to 120V #alignment

 

Another important "watch-out" if you have a Victron Multi-Plus.  Even if you have set the inverter to produce 50hz power, if the inverter "sees" the shore power frequency on the 240v input side of the device it will synchronize to that 60hz frequency. So double check if you are on shore power that your inverter circuit is still on the right frequency! 

 

Dan Carlson on sv BeBe, sm # 387

 

On Thu, Jan 6, 2022, 10:28 PM JB Duler <jbduler@...> wrote:

Bertrand, keep in mind that a simple transformer will not deal with frequency. In france you have 50Hz, and it is 60Hz in the US and other parts of the world. So electronics won't work (washing machine, microwave,etc...). A simple coffee machine will work.
You may just be better off using your inverter providing 220v/50Hz and charging batteries with the generator/solar.
Check your charger, if it is a new one it may be able to accept 110v (but you may have to run a different cable).
good luck
--
John Bernard "JB" Duler
San Francisco
Meltem # 19, Western Med


--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: Should I Refit a Furuno or choose a B&G plotter?

Arno Luijten
 

Hi Joerg,

Here is the software update log for the autopilot

Cheers,

Arno


Re: From 230V to 120V #alignment

Dan Carlson
 

Another important "watch-out" if you have a Victron Multi-Plus.  Even if you have set the inverter to produce 50hz power, if the inverter "sees" the shore power frequency on the 240v input side of the device it will synchronize to that 60hz frequency. So double check if you are on shore power that your inverter circuit is still on the right frequency! 

Dan Carlson on sv BeBe, sm # 387

On Thu, Jan 6, 2022, 10:28 PM JB Duler <jbduler@...> wrote:
Bertrand, keep in mind that a simple transformer will not deal with frequency. In france you have 50Hz, and it is 60Hz in the US and other parts of the world. So electronics won't work (washing machine, microwave,etc...). A simple coffee machine will work.
You may just be better off using your inverter providing 220v/50Hz and charging batteries with the generator/solar.
Check your charger, if it is a new one it may be able to accept 110v (but you may have to run a different cable).
good luck
--
John Bernard "JB" Duler
San Francisco
Meltem # 19, Western Med


HydraNet deliveries to sailmakers from Dimension Polyant in Germany

 

HydraNet is in short supply from Dimension Polyant in Germany and delivery by all sailmakers is impacted. The unreliable delivery of HydraNet from Dimension Polyant (DP Germany) has been going on for at least 12 months and is to be expected for a while. I believe that each sailmaker is receiving allotments of HydraNet from DP, and allocating it to orders that they have prioritized. It is very likely that the boat builder clients of certain sailmakers penalize the sailmakers for late delivery. These issues are common across the industry. How your particular order is handled will depend on the sailmaker's ability to work with the limited supply from DP, their allocation of HydraNet, and their abilities in communication with you.

Incidence Sails:
"Dimension-Polyant, the company that produces the Hydranet, has again postponed the delivery of the material that we were supposed to receive in November… for the moment we are not able to give you a delivery time, really sorry for that. They told us that should be able to send us some sailcloth at end of January but we do not yet know what type of Hydranet we will receive. Rest assured that we are doing everything we can do to produce your sails as soon as possible."

QSails:
"Dimension Polyant in Germany (sailcloth manufacturer) has been very unreliable since COVID, blaming their bad delivery problems on the delivery to them of fiber from China and other locations. DP announced another price increase of 6% on top of 9%. Things are not going well in Germany. Still some supply issues on HydraNet but no problem on Pro Radial at all. Pro-Radial delivery time is still 30-35 days."
 

Bill

CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   


Re: Should I Refit a Furuno or choose a B&G plotter?

Joerg Esdorn
 

Arno, thanks for the reminder to check on software updates.  I looked at the history and the update you must be referencing was in February 2015 so should have been done on my 2016 system.  But I’ll confirm when I get back to the boat!  Cheers Joerg 


Re: Check your GPS / AIS devices. Some of them failed on Jan 2, 2022 due to the "GPS Rollover" bug

Scott SV Tengah
 

Did he charge for this service ?

Mind giving me his contact info? I have the software and instructions for the gp150 and the data cable for data4, but am having trouble getting the update software to connect to the gp150.



On Mon, Jan 10, 2022, 22:28 Porter McRoberts via groups.io <portermcroberts=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Yes Scott correct on both points. We have the 150 and successfully reprogrammed. And we had a software option to change the transmit to silence mode which we no longer have. 



Porter McRoberts 
S/V IBIS A54-152
WhatsApp:+1 754 265 2206

On Jan 11, 2022, at 6:03 PM, Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...> wrote:



Porter,

 

You have the GP-150 and he successfully reprogrammed it?

 

For the FA-50, I always had the hard switch. My understanding was that the software “silent mode” was not available on the FA-50, even prior to the update.

 

From: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of "Porter McRoberts via groups.io" <portermcroberts=yahoo.com@groups.io>
Reply-To: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Date: Monday, January 10, 2022 at 8:15 PM
To: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Check your GPS / AIS devices. Some of them failed on Jan 2, 2022 due to the "GPS Rollover" bug

 

We just had furuno Brisbane reprogram both the GPS and the AIS. Interesting note. No longer to silence the AIS using software, which was important to us on rare occasion.  The tech gave me the wiring diagram for the power wire to the GPS which allows a hard silencing: close the circuit between the purple and grey wires= AIS silent mode. 

 

 

<image.png>

 

 

Also date is correct after his reprogramming. 

 

 

Happy sailing, 

Porter McRoberts 

S/V IBIS A54-152

WhatsApp:+1 754 265 2206



On Jan 11, 2022, at 10:42 AM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:



Myfuruno gp 32 gps and my furino chart plotter have gone to May 2002 date. Position is OK on both as I have external aerials. ENL the NZ distributors for furuno say the date cannt be corrected and (what a surprise) recommend a replacement as the solution. Pity  abuse I like my old fashio I have a newer furuno VX 2 as my radar. Will see if I  an patch the date from that. It talks to the plotter and I can full or split screen  the radar to the plotter.

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 11/01/2022 09:51 Scott SV Tengah <scott.nguyen@...> wrote:

 

 

I successfully updated my FA-50 AIS. Had to make a crossover ethernet cable since we don't have a hub onboard and the tiny shops on the remote South Pacific atolls are out of fresh vegetables and don't seem to carry crossover ethernet cables, either. ;)  A bit of splicing + turning off windows firewall and I was able to update our FA-50.

Do you have the GP-150? I cannot connect to it to update it. I have the serial output on Data4 enabled with a DB9 output and then connected to a DB9-USB converter. I have been using that for years to provide GPS data to my computer, but I can't get the Furuno update software to connect.

FYI - We know a SM with Garmin and they have been blissfully unaware that they may have been transmitting erroneous AIS position information since 2019. It is not a Furuno specific bug. It's easy to remain unaware that your reported position is missing or incorrect. 

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: Should I Refit a Furuno or choose a B&G plotter?

Peter Forbes
 

Many thanks Arno - will study and discuss with my guru.

Peter

Peter Forbes
The Old Rectory 
Farnham
Blandford
DT11 8 DE
07836 209730

On 11 Jan 2022, at 00:11, Arno Luijten <arno.luijten@...> wrote:

Peter,
Below is the spec-sheet of the secondary display I've used.

For the primary display I did some modifications as the LCD was very bad. I replaced the LCD and also replaced the glass panel in front of it by a touch-sensitive acrylic panel making it effectively a touchscreen monitor.

Cheers,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121


Re: Check your GPS / AIS devices. Some of them failed on Jan 2, 2022 due to the "GPS Rollover" bug

Porter McRoberts
 

Yes Scott correct on both points. We have the 150 and successfully reprogrammed. And we had a software option to change the transmit to silence mode which we no longer have. 



Porter McRoberts 
S/V IBIS A54-152
WhatsApp:+1 754 265 2206
Www.fouribis.net

On Jan 11, 2022, at 6:03 PM, Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...> wrote:



Porter,

 

You have the GP-150 and he successfully reprogrammed it?

 

For the FA-50, I always had the hard switch. My understanding was that the software “silent mode” was not available on the FA-50, even prior to the update.

 

From: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of "Porter McRoberts via groups.io" <portermcroberts@...>
Reply-To: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Date: Monday, January 10, 2022 at 8:15 PM
To: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Check your GPS / AIS devices. Some of them failed on Jan 2, 2022 due to the "GPS Rollover" bug

 

We just had furuno Brisbane reprogram both the GPS and the AIS. Interesting note. No longer to silence the AIS using software, which was important to us on rare occasion.  The tech gave me the wiring diagram for the power wire to the GPS which allows a hard silencing: close the circuit between the purple and grey wires= AIS silent mode. 

 

 

<image.png>

 

 

Also date is correct after his reprogramming. 

 

 

Happy sailing, 

Porter McRoberts 

S/V IBIS A54-152

WhatsApp:+1 754 265 2206

Www.fouribis.net



On Jan 11, 2022, at 10:42 AM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:



Myfuruno gp 32 gps and my furino chart plotter have gone to May 2002 date. Position is OK on both as I have external aerials. ENL the NZ distributors for furuno say the date cannt be corrected and (what a surprise) recommend a replacement as the solution. Pity  abuse I like my old fashio I have a newer furuno VX 2 as my radar. Will see if I  an patch the date from that. It talks to the plotter and I can full or split screen  the radar to the plotter.

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 11/01/2022 09:51 Scott SV Tengah <scott.nguyen@...> wrote:

 

 

I successfully updated my FA-50 AIS. Had to make a crossover ethernet cable since we don't have a hub onboard and the tiny shops on the remote South Pacific atolls are out of fresh vegetables and don't seem to carry crossover ethernet cables, either. ;)  A bit of splicing + turning off windows firewall and I was able to update our FA-50.

Do you have the GP-150? I cannot connect to it to update it. I have the serial output on Data4 enabled with a DB9 output and then connected to a DB9-USB converter. I have been using that for years to provide GPS data to my computer, but I can't get the Furuno update software to connect.

FYI - We know a SM with Garmin and they have been blissfully unaware that they may have been transmitting erroneous AIS position information since 2019. It is not a Furuno specific bug. It's easy to remain unaware that your reported position is missing or incorrect. 

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: Check your GPS / AIS devices. Some of them failed on Jan 2, 2022 due to the "GPS Rollover" bug

Scott SV Tengah
 

Porter,

 

You have the GP-150 and he successfully reprogrammed it?

 

For the FA-50, I always had the hard switch. My understanding was that the software “silent mode” was not available on the FA-50, even prior to the update.

 

From: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of "Porter McRoberts via groups.io" <portermcroberts@...>
Reply-To: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Date: Monday, January 10, 2022 at 8:15 PM
To: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Check your GPS / AIS devices. Some of them failed on Jan 2, 2022 due to the "GPS Rollover" bug

 

We just had furuno Brisbane reprogram both the GPS and the AIS. Interesting note. No longer to silence the AIS using software, which was important to us on rare occasion.  The tech gave me the wiring diagram for the power wire to the GPS which allows a hard silencing: close the circuit between the purple and grey wires= AIS silent mode. 

 

 

 

 

Also date is correct after his reprogramming. 

 

 

Happy sailing, 

Porter McRoberts 

S/V IBIS A54-152

WhatsApp:+1 754 265 2206

Www.fouribis.net



On Jan 11, 2022, at 10:42 AM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:



Myfuruno gp 32 gps and my furino chart plotter have gone to May 2002 date. Position is OK on both as I have external aerials. ENL the NZ distributors for furuno say the date cannt be corrected and (what a surprise) recommend a replacement as the solution. Pity  abuse I like my old fashio I have a newer furuno VX 2 as my radar. Will see if I  an patch the date from that. It talks to the plotter and I can full or split screen  the radar to the plotter.

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 11/01/2022 09:51 Scott SV Tengah <scott.nguyen@...> wrote:

 

 

I successfully updated my FA-50 AIS. Had to make a crossover ethernet cable since we don't have a hub onboard and the tiny shops on the remote South Pacific atolls are out of fresh vegetables and don't seem to carry crossover ethernet cables, either. ;)  A bit of splicing + turning off windows firewall and I was able to update our FA-50.

Do you have the GP-150? I cannot connect to it to update it. I have the serial output on Data4 enabled with a DB9 output and then connected to a DB9-USB converter. I have been using that for years to provide GPS data to my computer, but I can't get the Furuno update software to connect.

FYI - We know a SM with Garmin and they have been blissfully unaware that they may have been transmitting erroneous AIS position information since 2019. It is not a Furuno specific bug. It's easy to remain unaware that your reported position is missing or incorrect. 

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: Check your GPS / AIS devices. Some of them failed on Jan 2, 2022 due to the "GPS Rollover" bug

Porter McRoberts
 

We just had furuno Brisbane reprogram both the GPS and the AIS. Interesting note. No longer to silence the AIS using software, which was important to us on rare occasion.  The tech gave me the wiring diagram for the power wire to the GPS which allows a hard silencing: close the circuit between the purple and grey wires= AIS silent mode. 




Also date is correct after his reprogramming. 


Happy sailing, 
Porter McRoberts 
S/V IBIS A54-152
WhatsApp:+1 754 265 2206
Www.fouribis.net

On Jan 11, 2022, at 10:42 AM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:


Myfuruno gp 32 gps and my furino chart plotter have gone to May 2002 date. Position is OK on both as I have external aerials. ENL the NZ distributors for furuno say the date cannt be corrected and (what a surprise) recommend a replacement as the solution. Pity  abuse I like my old fashio I have a newer furuno VX 2 as my radar. Will see if I  an patch the date from that. It talks to the plotter and I can full or split screen  the radar to the plotter.
Danny
SM 299
Ocean Pearl
On 11/01/2022 09:51 Scott SV Tengah <scott.nguyen@...> wrote:


I successfully updated my FA-50 AIS. Had to make a crossover ethernet cable since we don't have a hub onboard and the tiny shops on the remote South Pacific atolls are out of fresh vegetables and don't seem to carry crossover ethernet cables, either. ;)  A bit of splicing + turning off windows firewall and I was able to update our FA-50.

Do you have the GP-150? I cannot connect to it to update it. I have the serial output on Data4 enabled with a DB9 output and then connected to a DB9-USB converter. I have been using that for years to provide GPS data to my computer, but I can't get the Furuno update software to connect.

FYI - We know a SM with Garmin and they have been blissfully unaware that they may have been transmitting erroneous AIS position information since 2019. It is not a Furuno specific bug. It's easy to remain unaware that your reported position is missing or incorrect. 

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Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: Check your GPS / AIS devices. Some of them failed on Jan 2, 2022 due to the "GPS Rollover" bug

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Myfuruno gp 32 gps and my furino chart plotter have gone to May 2002 date. Position is OK on both as I have external aerials. ENL the NZ distributors for furuno say the date cannt be corrected and (what a surprise) recommend a replacement as the solution. Pity  abuse I like my old fashio I have a newer furuno VX 2 as my radar. Will see if I  an patch the date from that. It talks to the plotter and I can full or split screen  the radar to the plotter.
Danny
SM 299
Ocean Pearl

On 11/01/2022 09:51 Scott SV Tengah <scott.nguyen@...> wrote:


I successfully updated my FA-50 AIS. Had to make a crossover ethernet cable since we don't have a hub onboard and the tiny shops on the remote South Pacific atolls are out of fresh vegetables and don't seem to carry crossover ethernet cables, either. ;)  A bit of splicing + turning off windows firewall and I was able to update our FA-50.

Do you have the GP-150? I cannot connect to it to update it. I have the serial output on Data4 enabled with a DB9 output and then connected to a DB9-USB converter. I have been using that for years to provide GPS data to my computer, but I can't get the Furuno update software to connect.

FYI - We know a SM with Garmin and they have been blissfully unaware that they may have been transmitting erroneous AIS position information since 2019. It is not a Furuno specific bug. It's easy to remain unaware that your reported position is missing or incorrect. 

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: Should I Refit a Furuno or choose a B&G plotter?

David Vogel
 

Greetings,

 

Into the question is also that of the autopilot … more on this later.  But firstly, decision of brand for chartplotter.

 

For the chartplotter, we have Furuno TZT14 (version 1, touchscreen plus wheel, located at the nav station).  This is integrated Furuno with FAX50 (AIS) and DRS4 (digital radar).  We can also do weather download and display of weather data onto the TZT display, but rarely do so; but do regularly use the tidal and current information.  In any event, this stayed with the with the original AMEL Furuno fitout for the radar, but upgraded to digital sensors and N2K interoperability.  The system works extremely well.  HOWEVER, the original TZT14 has a design/manufacturing fault, in that the display, when in tropical conditions for extended periods of time, starts to degrade with ‘bubbles’ appearing at the corners and edge of the display.  This was, apparently, a known fault with the original displays.  When I first saw this problem (in Martinique), I couriered the TZT14 unit back to the US (at my own expense), the display was replaced (under ‘warrantee’, even though the unit was more than 3 years old at that time), and returned to me by courier at Furuno’s expense, to be back on board and installed within 7 business days after removal.  So, 11/10 to Furuno USA for after-market customer service.   But this does give me cause to wonder if I will soon see the same problem with the replacement display – which would be due to occur about now.  So, I am always interested to understand what might be my next step, if the need for a new chartplotter display should present itself.

 

One feature of Furuno is that the display of the TZT chartplotter can be mirrored in read-only or control mode to a tablet or phone, which is nice (we use iDevices on board); meaning that that the display itself can fail, but in a contingency situation you can still control the TZT as a ‘black box’.  In normal use, you can have a mirrored display at the helm using an iPad, avoiding the expense of a duplicated wired TZT unit.  And Furuno / TZT is expanding the functionality of the paired APPs (now known as “TZ iBoat”), which is even better!  HOWEVER, the data from the Furuno radar can only be used and seen on Furuno equipment, or via the paired APP.   SO, you need to rely on the chartplotter, or the paired phone/tablet.  In contrast, the data from some NAVICO radars (i.e. SimRad, or B&G) can be ‘ported’ directly to other chartplotter software, such as OpenCPN.  So, if you might ever wish to see the radar data directly in OpenCPN, for example, then you will likely never be able to do this with a FURUNO radar.

 

Regarding the autopilot.  This is an integration issue.  I upgraded the autopilot, keeping to the original AMEL equipment fitout – so still Raymarine, but upgraded to EV400.  And we have been absolutely happy with that.  The Raymarine A/P can (like for the original) take the course (route) outputs from the TZT Chartplotter, and operate in “TRACK” mode.  This is very useful when motoring in nil-wind conditions, and when following a defined track across the island-atolls of French Polynesia, where we use tracks derived from satellite pictures in order to avoid isolated reefs and bommies.  We drive the autopilot, the autopilot drives the boat, and we can maintain better situational awareness and lookout.  Wind and current effects mean that using heading mode is not as reliable in such situations.  It is also good for following an earlier track, such as when one has to leave the anchorage in early morning, late afternoon, or at night, such as when weather conditions change unexpectedly and make the anchorage untenable.

 

We also have a B&G Vulcan 7” MFD at the Nav station.  This replaces the functionality of the B&G N2K Hydra2000 display (which is now retired, although still installed).  Expanded functionality of the V7 over the Hydra, because it is graphic (not text/based), also showing laylines, along with wind-, speed, and depth- plots, and as well as can provide basic chartplotter functionality should the Furuno TZT fail in service.   HOWEVER, the course outputs from the B&G Vulcan cannot be seen or understood by the Raymarine Autopilot.  So, we cannot use a route from the V7 as the basis for TRACK mode on the Raymarine autopilot.  I am not sure if this would the case with other B&G chart-plotters, but it is something to keep in mind when investigating the interoperability of various brands. 

 

If I were approaching the decision about an autopilot upgrade again, I think I would have changed over to B&G for the autopilot as well, which would mean that I could use the Vulcan MFD as an alternate A/P control head (Heading & Wind modes), situated downstairs at the nav station, whilst also enjoying the redundant functionality of routing from the V7 to the autopilot.  If I had done so, then if/when it comes time to replace/upgrade the Furuno TZT Chartplotter, the decision would almost certainly be to go all B&G.  (Some NAVICO radars can also be connected by WiFi, not cable. I am still unconvinced about this – but this is a separate discussion.)

 

As an aside, we also upgraded to three B&G Triton2 displays at the helm, and find these MFDs to be perfectly suited to the task, whether on-anchor, manoeuvring in-harbour, coastal, or offshore – we configure the displays for each different environment, or depending on what else is going on. 

 

Hope this helps,

 

David

SM#396, Perigee

New Zealand

 

 

From: <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Joan Blaas <joan.blaas@...>
Reply-To: <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Date: Monday, 10 January 2022 at 8:12 am
To: <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Should I Refit a Furuno or choose a B&G plotter?

 

Dear fellow Amel owners,

The original Furuno Navnet plotter & radar on my Amel 55 needs to be replaced. I also have a b&g H3000 Hydra system as wel as two Furuno Fab 7002 autopilots. The Hydra works fine the autopilots have a bit a mind of their own...

I now only want to replace the plotter & radar and later on this year/next year replace the whole system. We are planning a Atlantic circumnavigation in 2023/2024. 

I need some advice / opinion what I should do? Should I stick to the Amel tradition with a Furuno plotter/radar (and complexity of a multi brand system) or gradually move to an B&G only system? 

And what model should I choose?

Your experience and advise.is highly appreciated.

Kind regards,

Joan

SV Caconano
Amel55 #05


Re: Should I Refit a Furuno or choose a B&G plotter?

Arno Luijten
 

Peter,
Below is the spec-sheet of the secondary display I've used.

For the primary display I did some modifications as the LCD was very bad. I replaced the LCD and also replaced the glass panel in front of it by a touch-sensitive acrylic panel making it effectively a touchscreen monitor.

Cheers,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121


Re: Should I Refit a Furuno or choose a B&G plotter?

Arno Luijten
 

Peter,

This is the schematic diagram with all the parts. Be aware that I have two Furuno course computers and the diagram shows only one as there can only one be active at a given moment.

Cheers,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121

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