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Re: [Amel] Standing Rigging

minaxi53
 

My 1989 SM hull #6 is currently in the boatyard having the rigging replaced.
I can ask boatyard for details if that helps.

Bob

s/v Minaxi



From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of paraic44
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 7:35 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] Standing Rigging





We are considering the replacement of the standing rigging on our 1998 SM
(hull no. 228).
I would be pleased to accept advice as to where I can obtain rigging
specifications - lengths & wire diameters etc.
I remember finding such a spec some time ago, but have mislaid it.

Myra & Paraic Reid


Anti-foul Removal

paraic44 <paraic44@...>
 

We intend to coppercoat our hull and in these recessionary times we are considering doing the work ourselves. We seek advice as to the most effective method of anti-foul removal, and wonder if strong caustic might do the trick, or would it damage the gel ?.


Standing Rigging

paraic44 <paraic44@...>
 

We are considering the replacement of the standing rigging on our 1998 SM (hull no. 228).
I would be pleased to accept advice as to where I can obtain rigging specifications - lengths & wire diameters etc.
I remember finding such a spec some time ago, but have mislaid it.

Myra & Paraic Reid


Re: [Amel] 8 HP OUTBOARD ENGINE

Horst Pause <horst.puddleduck@...>
 

Hi Bob,
First hoist the mizzen boom end with its topping lift. Then I open the fasteners of the motor on the wooden board and attach the lower block to the top of the engine. Now take the free end of the sheet down to the dinghy, lift the motor and swing it out. Lower it to the dinghy transom and close the fasteners. Re-do the mizzen now or wait until you lift the motor back up again.

Horst




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From: rossirossix4 <rossidesigngroup@gmail.com>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, 24 February, 2010 16:16:11
Subject: Re: [Amel] 8 HP OUTBOARD ENGINE


Horst,
Sounds interesting. Could you elaborate on this? Where do you run the sheet exactly?

Bob

--- In amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com, Horst Pause <horst.puddleduck@ ...> wrote:

I have always lowered my outboard on my own. I undo the mizzen sheet at the traveller and lower the motor with that, controlling the mizzen sheet from the dinghy. Very easy, and it even works in a bit of a roll. Horst




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From: Vicente Pereda Hernández <VPEREDA@... >
To: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wed, 24 February, 2010 5:40:00
Subject: Re: [Amel] 8 HP OUTBOARD ENGINE

Thanks Dimitris, I have clear the procedure to do it with two persons
but the idea is to handle it only one person and in my understanding
should be made from the dingy and this is the problem.
VICENTE


El 23/02/2010, a las 13:53, Dimitris Krassopoulos escribió:

I have the same engine on my SM2000. The best is to attached to
rings on the
metal side of the motor so you can hang the motor from there is very
helpful. The second is to find in your boat the rope with two inox
shackles
that you put on the rings on the motor and you put the put through
the two
rollers on the mizzen boom. The end of the rope has a small loop and
you
attach this to the halyard used for the passarele by this way you
can pull
up the motor with the winch and release it to the dinghy by moving
the boom
over the dinghy and lower the motor. It is better to try the procedure
without swell. I put a rope from the back of the dinghy to the boat
to fix
it alongside the side of the boat.

From: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Vicente Pereda
Hernandez
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 2:38 PM
To: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [Amel] 8 HP OUTBOARD ENGINE

Hello everybody, I have a new outboard 8 hp engine in my Supermaramu
(AILAMA). I am looking for a procedure to put the engine in the dingy
by myself. It weight 40 Kg and I do not Know the proper procedure to
do it. Does anybody Know the procedure?.
THANKS in advance
VICENTE PEREDA
SM 107 AILAMA

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Re: [Amel] 8 HP OUTBOARD ENGINE

rossirossix4
 

Horst,
Sounds interesting. Could you elaborate on this? Where do you run the sheet exactly?

Bob

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Horst Pause <horst.puddleduck@...> wrote:

I have always lowered my outboard on my own. I undo the mizzen sheet at the traveller and lower the motor with that, controlling the mizzen sheet from the dinghy. Very easy, and it even works in a bit of a roll. Horst




________________________________
From: Vicente Pereda Hernández <VPEREDA@...>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, 24 February, 2010 5:40:00
Subject: Re: [Amel] 8 HP OUTBOARD ENGINE

Thanks Dimitris, I have clear the procedure to do it with two persons
but the idea is to handle it only one person and in my understanding
should be made from the dingy and this is the problem.
VICENTE


El 23/02/2010, a las 13:53, Dimitris Krassopoulos escribió:

I have the same engine on my SM2000. The best is to attached to
rings on the
metal side of the motor so you can hang the motor from there is very
helpful. The second is to find in your boat the rope with two inox
shackles
that you put on the rings on the motor and you put the put through
the two
rollers on the mizzen boom. The end of the rope has a small loop and
you
attach this to the halyard used for the passarele by this way you
can pull
up the motor with the winch and release it to the dinghy by moving
the boom
over the dinghy and lower the motor. It is better to try the procedure
without swell. I put a rope from the back of the dinghy to the boat
to fix
it alongside the side of the boat.

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Vicente Pereda
Hernandez
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 2:38 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] 8 HP OUTBOARD ENGINE

Hello everybody, I have a new outboard 8 hp engine in my Supermaramu
(AILAMA). I am looking for a procedure to put the engine in the dingy
by myself. It weight 40 Kg and I do not Know the proper procedure to
do it. Does anybody Know the procedure?.
THANKS in advance
VICENTE PEREDA
SM 107 AILAMA

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Re: [Amel] 8 HP OUTBOARD ENGINE

joseph mc donnell
 

Hi Vicente
In any conditions your 4 stroke is a heavy engine to handle even with a second person. Would you consider a second option. We have a small Susuki 2 stroke engine as back up and it is much lighter and easier for one person to handle. We have a 3.10 meter dingy and the
2 stroke pushes it along just fine.
Regards Joe
Khamsin B


Re: [Amel] 8 HP OUTBOARD ENGINE

Horst Pause <horst.puddleduck@...>
 

I have always lowered my outboard on my own. I undo the mizzen sheet at the traveller and lower the motor with that, controlling the mizzen sheet from the dinghy. Very easy, and it even works in a bit of a roll. Horst




________________________________
From: Vicente Pereda Hernández <VPEREDA@telefonica.net>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, 24 February, 2010 5:40:00
Subject: Re: [Amel] 8 HP OUTBOARD ENGINE

Thanks Dimitris, I have clear the procedure to do it with two persons
but the idea is to handle it only one person and in my understanding
should be made from the dingy and this is the problem.
VICENTE


El 23/02/2010, a las 13:53, Dimitris Krassopoulos escribió:

I have the same engine on my SM2000. The best is to attached to
rings on the
metal side of the motor so you can hang the motor from there is very
helpful. The second is to find in your boat the rope with two inox
shackles
that you put on the rings on the motor and you put the put through
the two
rollers on the mizzen boom. The end of the rope has a small loop and
you
attach this to the halyard used for the passarele by this way you
can pull
up the motor with the winch and release it to the dinghy by moving
the boom
over the dinghy and lower the motor. It is better to try the procedure
without swell. I put a rope from the back of the dinghy to the boat
to fix
it alongside the side of the boat.

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Vicente Pereda
Hernandez
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 2:38 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] 8 HP OUTBOARD ENGINE

Hello everybody, I have a new outboard 8 hp engine in my Supermaramu
(AILAMA). I am looking for a procedure to put the engine in the dingy
by myself. It weight 40 Kg and I do not Know the proper procedure to
do it. Does anybody Know the procedure?.
THANKS in advance
VICENTE PEREDA
SM 107 AILAMA

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Re: 8 HP OUTBOARD ENGINE

Craig Briggs
 

Vicente,
Yes, the problem is that you cannot lower the motor when you are in the dinghy.
From the main boat, I lift mine off the rail, then swing it out about the distance needed to meet the dinghy transom properly (approx 1 meter)and tie the mizzen boom in that position with an elastic bungy cord.
Then I lower the motor so the bottom of the engine housing is just out of the water (this does not work if the boat is rolling very much!).
Finally, I get in the dinghy, move it in place under the motor and pick up the motor the few centimeters needed to get the bracket over the transom. Voila!
Cheers, Craig

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Vicente Pereda Hernández <VPEREDA@...> wrote:

Thanks Dimitris, I have clear the procedure to do it with two persons
but the idea is to handle it only one person and in my understanding
should be made from the dingy and this is the problem.
VICENTE


Re: [Amel] 8 HP OUTBOARD ENGINE

Vicente Pereda Hernández <VPEREDA@...>
 

Thanks Dimitris, I have clear the procedure to do it with two persons
but the idea is to handle it only one person and in my understanding
should be made from the dingy and this is the problem.
VICENTE


El 23/02/2010, a las 13:53, Dimitris Krassopoulos escribi:

I have the same engine on my SM2000. The best is to attached to
rings on the
metal side of the motor so you can hang the motor from there is very
helpful. The second is to find in your boat the rope with two inox
shackles
that you put on the rings on the motor and you put the put through
the two
rollers on the mizzen boom. The end of the rope has a small loop and
you
attach this to the halyard used for the passarele by this way you
can pull
up the motor with the winch and release it to the dinghy by moving
the boom
over the dinghy and lower the motor. It is better to try the procedure
without swell. I put a rope from the back of the dinghy to the boat
to fix
it alongside the side of the boat.

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Vicente Pereda
Hernandez
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 2:38 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] 8 HP OUTBOARD ENGINE

Hello everybody, I have a new outboard 8 hp engine in my Supermaramu
(AILAMA). I am looking for a procedure to put the engine in the dingy
by myself. It weight 40 Kg and I do not Know the proper procedure to
do it. Does anybody Know the procedure?.
THANKS in advance
VICENTE PEREDA
SM 107 AILAMA

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Re: [Amel] 8 HP OUTBOARD ENGINE

Dimitris Krassopoulos <dkra@...>
 

I have the same engine on my SM2000. The best is to attached to rings on the
metal side of the motor so you can hang the motor from there is very
helpful. The second is to find in your boat the rope with two inox shackles
that you put on the rings on the motor and you put the put through the two
rollers on the mizzen boom. The end of the rope has a small loop and you
attach this to the halyard used for the passarele by this way you can pull
up the motor with the winch and release it to the dinghy by moving the boom
over the dinghy and lower the motor. It is better to try the procedure
without swell. I put a rope from the back of the dinghy to the boat to fix
it alongside the side of the boat.



From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Vicente Pereda
Hernandez
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 2:38 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] 8 HP OUTBOARD ENGINE





Hello everybody, I have a new outboard 8 hp engine in my Supermaramu
(AILAMA). I am looking for a procedure to put the engine in the dingy
by myself. It weight 40 Kg and I do not Know the proper procedure to
do it. Does anybody Know the procedure?.
THANKS in advance
VICENTE PEREDA
SM 107 AILAMA



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8 HP OUTBOARD ENGINE

Vicente Pereda Hernández <VPEREDA@...>
 

Hello everybody, I have a new outboard 8 hp engine in my Supermaramu (AILAMA). I am looking for a procedure to put the engine in the dingy by myself. It weight 40 Kg and I do not Know the proper procedure to do it. Does anybody Know the procedure?.
THANKS in advance
VICENTE PEREDA
SM 107 AILAMA


MARAMU CHARGER PROBLEMS

Alejandro Paquin
 

We own Maramu hull #94, built in 1981. It is equipped with the original Scheiber S.A. charger/transformer which is not sending any charge to the house batteries. I also recently changed my batteries but something seems to be wrong with the charger or the way I connected the batteries. Can anyone tell me if there is a way to test the charger to insure it is working properly or not? Does anyone have a diagram of how the 4 6V house batteries should be connected onboard to provide 12V?

Alex Paquin
s/v SIMPATICO


Re: Bow thruster seals

rossirossix4
 

It is a sealant. RTV means Room Temperature Vulcanization meaning that the rubber sets up and binds without heat. These are "adhesive sealants" and they have are not strong like say 5200 or urethane glue, but more like regular silicone adhesive/sealants. The Blue RTV is a Loctite Permatex product that can be used to make gaskets (handy to have on your boat). I have used it both on the thruster seals (on the seal surface that is on the thruster body NOT on the rotating shaft) and it works well. This product is also good for bedding the rubber push buttons on the windlass.

Bob
Brittany de la Mer
1993 Santorin #86

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "jeffrapp2" <rapp.jeffrey@...> wrote:

A couple of years ago, someone posted an excellent file and photos related to servicing bow thruster seals. They referred to something called RTV, which was used to help secure the seals to the opening. I believe RTV is silicone. Were they referring to silicone grease or sealant? Thanks!


Bow thruster seals

jeffrapp2 <rapp.jeffrey@...>
 

A couple of years ago, someone posted an excellent file and photos related to servicing bow thruster seals. They referred to something called RTV, which was used to help secure the seals to the opening. I believe RTV is silicone. Were they referring to silicone grease or sealant? Thanks!


Bow thruster seals

jeffrapp2 <rapp.jeffrey@...>
 

Hi


Bow thruster seals

jeffrapp2 <rapp.jeffrey@...>
 

Hi


Re: [Amel] Eno 4 burner Stove

Dimitris Krasopoulos <dkra@...>
 

The batery compatment is outside the stove you have to remove the
stove in order to be able to get to the batery and check the connection.


The only problem is that the stove is heavy and you have to remove the
gas hose as well.

Dimitris

Από το iPhone μου

22 Φεβ 2010, 16:40, ο/η kimberlite <kimberlite@optonline.net>
έγραψε:

Dimitri,
How do you get to the battery compartment?
Thanks
Fair Winds
Eric

-----Original Message-----
From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dimitris
Krassopoulos
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 3:02 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Amel] Eno 4 burner Stove

I had the same problem. You do not need to take the stove apart. You
have to
unhang it from the gimbaled system and then clean the contacts of the
battery compartment on the back left side of the stove. Probably it
will
work after cleaning the contacts .

Regards

Dimitris

SM 2000 Alma Libre

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of kimberlite
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 9:10 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] Eno 4 burner Stove

Hi,

My automatic burner lighter has stopped working (the thing that
clicks when
to depress the igniter button).

The battery is new and the switch is working properly. The battery
contacts
are clean.

I assume I have to take the stove apart. I also do not have a
drawing of the
stove. . Does anyone have a drawing?

Has anyone else had this problem?

How do I take the stove apart?

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

_____

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Richard
Piller
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 3:29 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Amel] Hove to and enjoy.

Eric, I don't have a drawing of hoving to.. We simply back wind a
shorten
head sail, move the sheet car forward as far as we can. Keep on the
sheet
for chafe. We had none. Shorten the main and pull it flat on the
center
line. Turn the wheel to windward and tie it off. The boat STOPS. The
angle
to the wind is about 50-60 deg. The boat creates it's own slick to
windward
as it drifts. The motion is to slowly move up and down the big seas
(25-35
ft.) seas with an easy motion. When the bow comes up to the wind it
just
falls off. Over two days of 45-60 kts we moved 75 miles. From time
to time
we'd get hit with a wave from the wrong side other then that all was
well.
We slept, ate, and rested for two days while the storm blow itself
out.

--- On Sun, 9/27/09, kimberlite <kimberlite@optonlin
<mailto:kimberlite%40optonline.net> e.net> wrote:

From: kimberlite <kimberlite@optonlin <mailto:kimberlite
%40optonline.net>
e.net>
Subject: RE: [Amel] Heading South for the Winter
To: amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, September 27, 2009, 12:47 AM

Richard ,

Could you send me a scan of that drawing>

Kimberlite@optonlin e.net

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

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From: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com

[mailto:amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Steve
Constantine

Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 3:46 PM

To: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: Re: [Amel] Heading South for the Winter

Richard,

When we bought our boat, there was a hand drawn sketch in the manual
showing

a ketch rig heave-to technique using only the main and mizzen (i.e. no

headsail at all, backwinded main on the traveller, and center line
mizzen).

Have you tried this technique? If so, what is it about the
conventional

sloop-style headsail/main technique you prefer?

Has anyone else compared the two techniques? We haven't practiced
either, so

we're interested in the benefits of what works best.

Steve and Donna

Summer Love

SM 340

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From: Richard Piller <richard03801@ <mailto:richard0380 1%40yahoo.
com>

yahoo.com>

To: amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtow ners%40yahoogrou ps.com>

yahoogroups. com

Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 9:45:11 PM

Subject: RE: [Amel] Heading South for the Winter

Kent, you are new at this. There are a lot of us that have done this
trip

for years. I know the Bahama's look like an easy way, they are NOT>>
Once

you get our of Norfolk the winds normally will take you to Bermuda
anyway..

Take advantage of that go east.. When you depart from Bermuda head
for 60

degs as you go south. DON't be tricked into a straight line course
to St.

Martin.. you head a bit east and when the winds come on your port
let them

carry you to St. Martin.. Bring lots of fuel cans as there will be
wind or

NONE... Eric carries lots of fuel so do we. You'll need it.. Also be
sure to

get your cook gas cans filled before to take off. USE Herb and be
sure to

call in every day he HATES people that don't.. in fact he worries to
death

if you don't.. Try hoving two from time to time before you need too.
It

works. Back wind the shortened headsail, bring the main on center
shorten it

up to about a #3 reef with a short head sail bring

the wheel to windward and tie off the wheel with the mizzen rolled up.

She'll sit there and all will be well. We have done it in several big

nor'easter and two tropical blows.. It works.. even 35 foot seas. If
you

find yourself running before the wind we lay out a big 300 foot u
shaped

warp of 3/4 line to slow the boat and keep her steady so the auto
pilot

doesn't kill itself. You've got one of the be sea going boats in the
world.

Don't panic and you'll do just fine.

Richard and Joan on Challenge SM 209 in Annapolis.

--- On Tue, 9/8/09, Kent Robertson <karkauai@yahoo. . com> wrote:

From: Kent Robertson <karkauai@yahoo. com>

Subject: RE: [Amel] Heading South for the Winter

To: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com

Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 7:36 PM

Thanks a bunch John. That's what I needed to hear. All I have to do
now is

get my SSB working for weather faxes and communications, and get my
nerve up

enough to go to sea for 12 days. I'll probably have to get some
professional

crew since none of my friends are up for that kind of trip yet. I
think I'll

be OK with it if I have reliable weather info.

Where are you getting your shoulder worked on? I'm an
anesthesiologist in

North Carolina. Ask for an interscalene block and catheter for
postop pain

relief...it' ll make you pretty much pain free for 2-3 days after
surgery.

Only other advice on shoulder surgery is to do your PT religiously
no matter

what. Worst thing that can happen is to limit your movement enough
that you

get a frozen shoulder.

Good luck with that.

My phone number is 828 234 6819 (cell). I may give you a call in a
week or

two if I haven't made my mind up yet.

Thanks again,

Kent

--- On Tue, 9/8/09, john martin <symoondog@hotmail. com> wrote:

From: john martin <symoondog@hotmail. com>

Subject: RE: [Amel] Heading South for the Winter

To: "Amel YAHOO GROUP" <amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com>

Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 4:15 PM

Kent, I've done that trip many times over the last 35 years. Don't
even

think about going the gentlemens route. Its a real tough way to go.
You will

spend a lot of time waiting for weather, like months, And motoring
most of

the time into big seas. Bite the bullet,head to Bermuda to get your
easting

in, and then head for St, Martin's. You'l be there in 12 days. If
you go to

the Virgins first you will have a 80 mile bash to windward to get to
St,

Martin's, Better to pick up the Virgins on the way back. Also stop
in the

Bahamas on the way back, they are warm and beautiful in the
springtime but

are terrible in the winter. You should also consider the Caribbean
1500.

They leave from Hampton Va, on the 2nd of Nov. Well organized with
weather

routing etc. I wouldn't leave the Chesapeake before the first week
in Nov.{

think hurricane.} Going to Savannah is good because they don't get

hurricanes, but you are going west when you want to go east. The
Gentlemens

guide is a wonderful book, I have read it twice. He's a great
writer. I'm

going to the States for a shoulder opperation this week so will have
plenty

of time to talk while recovering. E-mail me your phone no. if you
need any

more help.symoondog@ hotmail.com John "moon Dog" sm248

To: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com

From: karkauai@yahoo. com

Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 14:27:36 +0000

Subject: [Amel] Heading South for the Winter

Hi, all,

I'm making plans for the trip South from the Chesapeake to the
Caribbean and

thought I'd ask for some advice. I've done a few 3-5 day offshore
trips

across the Gulf and up the coast, but haven't tackled the trip South
yet.

From what I've read a lot of people sail out to Bermuda, then South
to
avoid

the upwind beat from the Bahamas down the chain, but I still don't
have my

SSB working (or have a good way to get weather that far offshore) I'm

working on that, but haven't had much luck yet. I have a week in Oct
that I

could take her down to Savannah, then a month from mid Nov to mid
Dec. I've

ordered the book "A Gentleman's Guide to Passages South", but wanted
some

advice from folks who've been there and done that. Just how "bad"
are the

two approaches to getting to the BVI from the E Coast?

Thanks in advance for your thoughts.

Kent

"Kristy" SM 243

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Re: [Amel] Eno 4 burner Stove

kimberlite <kimberlite@...>
 

Dimitri,
How do you get to the battery compartment?
Thanks
Fair Winds
Eric

-----Original Message-----
From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dimitris Krassopoulos
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 3:02 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Amel] Eno 4 burner Stove

I had the same problem. You do not need to take the stove apart. You have to
unhang it from the gimbaled system and then clean the contacts of the
battery compartment on the back left side of the stove. Probably it will
work after cleaning the contacts .



Regards



Dimitris

SM 2000 Alma Libre



From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of kimberlite
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 9:10 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] Eno 4 burner Stove







Hi,

My automatic burner lighter has stopped working (the thing that clicks when
to depress the igniter button).

The battery is new and the switch is working properly. The battery contacts
are clean.

I assume I have to take the stove apart. I also do not have a drawing of the
stove. . Does anyone have a drawing?

Has anyone else had this problem?

How do I take the stove apart?

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

_____

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Richard Piller
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 3:29 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Amel] Hove to and enjoy.

Eric, I don't have a drawing of hoving to.. We simply back wind a shorten
head sail, move the sheet car forward as far as we can. Keep on the sheet
for chafe. We had none. Shorten the main and pull it flat on the center
line. Turn the wheel to windward and tie it off. The boat STOPS. The angle
to the wind is about 50-60 deg. The boat creates it's own slick to windward
as it drifts. The motion is to slowly move up and down the big seas (25-35
ft.) seas with an easy motion. When the bow comes up to the wind it just
falls off. Over two days of 45-60 kts we moved 75 miles. From time to time
we'd get hit with a wave from the wrong side other then that all was well.
We slept, ate, and rested for two days while the storm blow itself out.

--- On Sun, 9/27/09, kimberlite <kimberlite@optonlin
<mailto:kimberlite%40optonline.net> e.net> wrote:

From: kimberlite <kimberlite@optonlin <mailto:kimberlite%40optonline.net>
e.net>
Subject: RE: [Amel] Heading South for the Winter
To: amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, September 27, 2009, 12:47 AM

Richard ,

Could you send me a scan of that drawing>

Kimberlite@optonlin e.net

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

_____

From: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com

[mailto:amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Steve Constantine

Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 3:46 PM

To: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: Re: [Amel] Heading South for the Winter

Richard,

When we bought our boat, there was a hand drawn sketch in the manual showing

a ketch rig heave-to technique using only the main and mizzen (i.e. no

headsail at all, backwinded main on the traveller, and center line mizzen).

Have you tried this technique? If so, what is it about the conventional

sloop-style headsail/main technique you prefer?

Has anyone else compared the two techniques? We haven't practiced either, so

we're interested in the benefits of what works best.

Steve and Donna

Summer Love

SM 340

____________ _________ _________ __

From: Richard Piller <richard03801@ <mailto:richard0380 1%40yahoo. com>

yahoo.com>

To: amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtow ners%40yahoogrou ps.com>

yahoogroups. com

Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 9:45:11 PM

Subject: RE: [Amel] Heading South for the Winter

Kent, you are new at this. There are a lot of us that have done this trip

for years. I know the Bahama's look like an easy way, they are NOT>> Once

you get our of Norfolk the winds normally will take you to Bermuda anyway..

Take advantage of that go east.. When you depart from Bermuda head for 60

degs as you go south. DON't be tricked into a straight line course to St.

Martin.. you head a bit east and when the winds come on your port let them

carry you to St. Martin.. Bring lots of fuel cans as there will be wind or

NONE... Eric carries lots of fuel so do we. You'll need it.. Also be sure to

get your cook gas cans filled before to take off. USE Herb and be sure to

call in every day he HATES people that don't.. in fact he worries to death

if you don't.. Try hoving two from time to time before you need too. It

works. Back wind the shortened headsail, bring the main on center shorten it

up to about a #3 reef with a short head sail bring

the wheel to windward and tie off the wheel with the mizzen rolled up.

She'll sit there and all will be well. We have done it in several big

nor'easter and two tropical blows.. It works.. even 35 foot seas. If you

find yourself running before the wind we lay out a big 300 foot u shaped

warp of 3/4 line to slow the boat and keep her steady so the auto pilot

doesn't kill itself. You've got one of the be sea going boats in the world.

Don't panic and you'll do just fine.

Richard and Joan on Challenge SM 209 in Annapolis.

--- On Tue, 9/8/09, Kent Robertson <karkauai@yahoo. . com> wrote:

From: Kent Robertson <karkauai@yahoo. com>

Subject: RE: [Amel] Heading South for the Winter

To: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com

Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 7:36 PM

Thanks a bunch John. That's what I needed to hear. All I have to do now is

get my SSB working for weather faxes and communications, and get my nerve up

enough to go to sea for 12 days. I'll probably have to get some professional

crew since none of my friends are up for that kind of trip yet. I think I'll

be OK with it if I have reliable weather info.

Where are you getting your shoulder worked on? I'm an anesthesiologist in

North Carolina. Ask for an interscalene block and catheter for postop pain

relief...it' ll make you pretty much pain free for 2-3 days after surgery.

Only other advice on shoulder surgery is to do your PT religiously no matter

what. Worst thing that can happen is to limit your movement enough that you

get a frozen shoulder.

Good luck with that.

My phone number is 828 234 6819 (cell). I may give you a call in a week or

two if I haven't made my mind up yet.

Thanks again,

Kent

--- On Tue, 9/8/09, john martin <symoondog@hotmail. com> wrote:

From: john martin <symoondog@hotmail. com>

Subject: RE: [Amel] Heading South for the Winter

To: "Amel YAHOO GROUP" <amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com>

Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 4:15 PM

Kent, I've done that trip many times over the last 35 years. Don't even

think about going the gentlemens route. Its a real tough way to go. You will

spend a lot of time waiting for weather, like months, And motoring most of

the time into big seas. Bite the bullet,head to Bermuda to get your easting

in, and then head for St, Martin's. You'l be there in 12 days. If you go to

the Virgins first you will have a 80 mile bash to windward to get to St,

Martin's, Better to pick up the Virgins on the way back. Also stop in the

Bahamas on the way back, they are warm and beautiful in the springtime but

are terrible in the winter. You should also consider the Caribbean 1500.

They leave from Hampton Va, on the 2nd of Nov. Well organized with weather

routing etc. I wouldn't leave the Chesapeake before the first week in Nov.{

think hurricane.} Going to Savannah is good because they don't get

hurricanes, but you are going west when you want to go east. The Gentlemens

guide is a wonderful book, I have read it twice. He's a great writer. I'm

going to the States for a shoulder opperation this week so will have plenty

of time to talk while recovering. E-mail me your phone no. if you need any

more help.symoondog@ hotmail.com John "moon Dog" sm248

To: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com

From: karkauai@yahoo. com

Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 14:27:36 +0000

Subject: [Amel] Heading South for the Winter

Hi, all,

I'm making plans for the trip South from the Chesapeake to the Caribbean and

thought I'd ask for some advice. I've done a few 3-5 day offshore trips

across the Gulf and up the coast, but haven't tackled the trip South yet.

From what I've read a lot of people sail out to Bermuda, then South to
avoid

the upwind beat from the Bahamas down the chain, but I still don't have my

SSB working (or have a good way to get weather that far offshore) I'm

working on that, but haven't had much luck yet. I have a week in Oct that I

could take her down to Savannah, then a month from mid Nov to mid Dec. I've

ordered the book "A Gentleman's Guide to Passages South", but wanted some

advice from folks who've been there and done that. Just how "bad" are the

two approaches to getting to the BVI from the E Coast?

Thanks in advance for your thoughts.

Kent

"Kristy" SM 243

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christophhoeke <christophhoeke@...>
 

Amelowners Hallo, liebe Freunde, / P>
Ich habe seit 2009 ein Amel 54, mein Name ist Christoph Hoeke, und ich
planen, in der Karibik im Jahr 2012 gehen für 2 Years.Now Ich bin auf
der Suche nach einem sicheren Ort / P>
Es mit gutem Service, wie in La Rochelle, weil mein Boot muss es für
viele Monate allein zu bleiben. / P>
Haben Sie ein paar Infos für mich? Thank you all! / P>
Christoph Höhe Sy Sam 3 / P>


Re: [Amel] Eno 4 burner Stove

Dimitris Krassopoulos <dkra@...>
 

I had the same problem. You do not need to take the stove apart. You have to
unhang it from the gimbaled system and then clean the contacts of the
battery compartment on the back left side of the stove. Probably it will
work after cleaning the contacts .



Regards



Dimitris

SM 2000 Alma Libre



From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of kimberlite
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 9:10 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] Eno 4 burner Stove







Hi,

My automatic burner lighter has stopped working (the thing that clicks when
to depress the igniter button).

The battery is new and the switch is working properly. The battery contacts
are clean.

I assume I have to take the stove apart. I also do not have a drawing of the
stove. . Does anyone have a drawing?

Has anyone else had this problem?

How do I take the stove apart?

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

_____

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Richard Piller
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 3:29 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Amel] Hove to and enjoy.

Eric, I don't have a drawing of hoving to.. We simply back wind a shorten
head sail, move the sheet car forward as far as we can. Keep on the sheet
for chafe. We had none. Shorten the main and pull it flat on the center
line. Turn the wheel to windward and tie it off. The boat STOPS. The angle
to the wind is about 50-60 deg. The boat creates it's own slick to windward
as it drifts. The motion is to slowly move up and down the big seas (25-35
ft.) seas with an easy motion. When the bow comes up to the wind it just
falls off. Over two days of 45-60 kts we moved 75 miles. From time to time
we'd get hit with a wave from the wrong side other then that all was well.
We slept, ate, and rested for two days while the storm blow itself out.

--- On Sun, 9/27/09, kimberlite <kimberlite@optonlin
<mailto:kimberlite%40optonline.net> e.net> wrote:

From: kimberlite <kimberlite@optonlin <mailto:kimberlite%40optonline.net>
e.net>
Subject: RE: [Amel] Heading South for the Winter
To: amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, September 27, 2009, 12:47 AM

Richard ,

Could you send me a scan of that drawing>

Kimberlite@optonlin e.net

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

_____

From: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com

[mailto:amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Steve Constantine

Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 3:46 PM

To: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: Re: [Amel] Heading South for the Winter

Richard,

When we bought our boat, there was a hand drawn sketch in the manual showing

a ketch rig heave-to technique using only the main and mizzen (i.e. no

headsail at all, backwinded main on the traveller, and center line mizzen).

Have you tried this technique? If so, what is it about the conventional

sloop-style headsail/main technique you prefer?

Has anyone else compared the two techniques? We haven't practiced either, so

we're interested in the benefits of what works best.

Steve and Donna

Summer Love

SM 340

____________ _________ _________ __

From: Richard Piller <richard03801@ <mailto:richard0380 1%40yahoo. com>

yahoo.com>

To: amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtow ners%40yahoogrou ps.com>

yahoogroups. com

Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 9:45:11 PM

Subject: RE: [Amel] Heading South for the Winter

Kent, you are new at this. There are a lot of us that have done this trip

for years. I know the Bahama's look like an easy way, they are NOT>> Once

you get our of Norfolk the winds normally will take you to Bermuda anyway..

Take advantage of that go east.. When you depart from Bermuda head for 60

degs as you go south. DON't be tricked into a straight line course to St.

Martin.. you head a bit east and when the winds come on your port let them

carry you to St. Martin.. Bring lots of fuel cans as there will be wind or

NONE... Eric carries lots of fuel so do we. You'll need it.. Also be sure to

get your cook gas cans filled before to take off. USE Herb and be sure to

call in every day he HATES people that don't.. in fact he worries to death

if you don't.. Try hoving two from time to time before you need too. It

works. Back wind the shortened headsail, bring the main on center shorten it

up to about a #3 reef with a short head sail bring

the wheel to windward and tie off the wheel with the mizzen rolled up.

She'll sit there and all will be well. We have done it in several big

nor'easter and two tropical blows.. It works.. even 35 foot seas. If you

find yourself running before the wind we lay out a big 300 foot u shaped

warp of 3/4 line to slow the boat and keep her steady so the auto pilot

doesn't kill itself. You've got one of the be sea going boats in the world.

Don't panic and you'll do just fine.

Richard and Joan on Challenge SM 209 in Annapolis.

--- On Tue, 9/8/09, Kent Robertson <karkauai@yahoo. . com> wrote:

From: Kent Robertson <karkauai@yahoo. com>

Subject: RE: [Amel] Heading South for the Winter

To: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com

Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 7:36 PM

Thanks a bunch John. That's what I needed to hear. All I have to do now is

get my SSB working for weather faxes and communications, and get my nerve up

enough to go to sea for 12 days. I'll probably have to get some professional

crew since none of my friends are up for that kind of trip yet. I think I'll

be OK with it if I have reliable weather info.

Where are you getting your shoulder worked on? I'm an anesthesiologist in

North Carolina. Ask for an interscalene block and catheter for postop pain

relief...it' ll make you pretty much pain free for 2-3 days after surgery.

Only other advice on shoulder surgery is to do your PT religiously no matter

what. Worst thing that can happen is to limit your movement enough that you

get a frozen shoulder.

Good luck with that.

My phone number is 828 234 6819 (cell). I may give you a call in a week or

two if I haven't made my mind up yet.

Thanks again,

Kent

--- On Tue, 9/8/09, john martin <symoondog@hotmail. com> wrote:

From: john martin <symoondog@hotmail. com>

Subject: RE: [Amel] Heading South for the Winter

To: "Amel YAHOO GROUP" <amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com>

Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 4:15 PM

Kent, I've done that trip many times over the last 35 years. Don't even

think about going the gentlemens route. Its a real tough way to go. You will

spend a lot of time waiting for weather, like months, And motoring most of

the time into big seas. Bite the bullet,head to Bermuda to get your easting

in, and then head for St, Martin's. You'l be there in 12 days. If you go to

the Virgins first you will have a 80 mile bash to windward to get to St,

Martin's, Better to pick up the Virgins on the way back. Also stop in the

Bahamas on the way back, they are warm and beautiful in the springtime but

are terrible in the winter. You should also consider the Caribbean 1500.

They leave from Hampton Va, on the 2nd of Nov. Well organized with weather

routing etc. I wouldn't leave the Chesapeake before the first week in Nov.{

think hurricane.} Going to Savannah is good because they don't get

hurricanes, but you are going west when you want to go east. The Gentlemens

guide is a wonderful book, I have read it twice. He's a great writer. I'm

going to the States for a shoulder opperation this week so will have plenty

of time to talk while recovering. E-mail me your phone no. if you need any

more help.symoondog@ hotmail.com John "moon Dog" sm248

To: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com

From: karkauai@yahoo. com

Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 14:27:36 +0000

Subject: [Amel] Heading South for the Winter

Hi, all,

I'm making plans for the trip South from the Chesapeake to the Caribbean and

thought I'd ask for some advice. I've done a few 3-5 day offshore trips

across the Gulf and up the coast, but haven't tackled the trip South yet.

From what I've read a lot of people sail out to Bermuda, then South to
avoid

the upwind beat from the Bahamas down the chain, but I still don't have my

SSB working (or have a good way to get weather that far offshore) I'm

working on that, but haven't had much luck yet. I have a week in Oct that I

could take her down to Savannah, then a month from mid Nov to mid Dec. I've

ordered the book "A Gentleman's Guide to Passages South", but wanted some

advice from folks who've been there and done that. Just how "bad" are the

two approaches to getting to the BVI from the E Coast?

Thanks in advance for your thoughts.

Kent

"Kristy" SM 243

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