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Re: modified stern railing on 54 to carry line drums

Courtney Gorman
 

Martin can I ask about what appears to be an electric winch attached to the deck at the aft end of your boat?
Cheers
Courtney
54#101
Trippin

On Apr 16, 2022, at 7:22 AM, Peter Forbes <ppsforbes@...> wrote:

Martin,

Very nice - where did you have this done?

Peter
Peter Forbes
Amel54 #035
Lymington UK

On 16 Apr 2022, at 12:05, Martin Birkhoff <mbirkhoff@...> wrote:

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Re: Volvo Penta D3 110i-A

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Hi Nick;

We replaced this oil pressure switch back in 2017. Attached is the invoice from Gwen Marine. They are very knowledgeable and helpful. I also found the schematic of the sensor, while I was looking, to figure out why the sensor that I ordered from Volvo by the engine serial number, was different than the one I was replacing. The answer, as others have already provided, is the modifications done by Volvo France for Amel, that were not documented at Volvo. This is one of the sensors that was changed at Volvo France, to achieve the isolated ground.

Happy Sailing;


Mohammad and Aty
B&B Kokomo
AMEL 54 #099

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Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Volvo Penta D3 110i-A

I am at home in the U.K. and Amelia is in Leros.
In the photo below you can see what I believe to be the oil pressure monitor that has a small oil leak. Located just beside the base of the dip stick tube.
It needs to be replaced but my parts catalogue is on the boat…

Anyone know the part number??.

There has been a very small oil leak that side of the engine and no space to see due to the fuel tank location.
I could not find it all last summer and autumn, until I bought a selfie stick and took lots of photos with my phone, that finally revealed the problem.


Nick

S/Y Amelia
AML54-019
Leros Gr


Re: Volvo Penta D3 110i-A

 

More info:
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CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   


On Sat, Apr 16, 2022 at 8:39 AM Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:
Nick,

As I am sure that you are aware looking up a part number for the D3 is not as straightforward as some people might think. Volvo France modified the D3 to comply with Amel's request for an isolated ground engine. For some reason the modifications are not available to all Volvo dealers...at least this is what some owners have reported. Some of the sensors were changed to receive 12 volt negative from a second wire to the sensor and the wiring harness was modified along with possibly some other modifications, resulting in an Isolated ground D3.

As far as I know, Amel never gave any information on these changed parts to any Amel owner. Thus, I have attempted over the last few years to make a list of the special sensors used in the Isolated Ground modified D3 by Volvo France. I believe the part you want is: 
Part No. 8151889 CONTACT PRESSION HUILE BIPO / OIL PRESSURE PROBE (Also supplied via Volvo Trucks). This part was available at Gwen Marine (see the following inserted document) 

This is my current list, although I am not 100% sure it applies to all D3-110 models A through H:


Bill


CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   

On Sat, Apr 16, 2022 at 7:38 AM Dominique Sery via groups.io <dominiquesery=me.com@groups.io> wrote:
 
Nick,

The oil pressure sensor on the Volvo parts catalogue does not appear to be bipolar.
I know that Amel had the engine modified by Volvo to be dual pole.
Perhaps look for a bipolar oil pressure sensor to avoid losing the protection fitted by Amel?

Dominique


Re: Volvo Penta D3 110i-A

 

Nick,

As I am sure that you are aware looking up a part number for the D3 is not as straightforward as some people might think. Volvo France modified the D3 to comply with Amel's request for an isolated ground engine. For some reason the modifications are not available to all Volvo dealers...at least this is what some owners have reported. Some of the sensors were changed to receive 12 volt negative from a second wire to the sensor and the wiring harness was modified along with possibly some other modifications, resulting in an Isolated ground D3.

As far as I know, Amel never gave any information on these changed parts to any Amel owner. Thus, I have attempted over the last few years to make a list of the special sensors used in the Isolated Ground modified D3 by Volvo France. I believe the part you want is: 
Part No. 8151889 CONTACT PRESSION HUILE BIPO / OIL PRESSURE PROBE (Also supplied via Volvo Trucks). This part was available at Gwen Marine (see the following inserted document) 

This is my current list, although I am not 100% sure it applies to all D3-110 models A through H:


Bill


CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   


On Sat, Apr 16, 2022 at 7:38 AM Dominique Sery via groups.io <dominiquesery=me.com@groups.io> wrote:
 
Nick,

The oil pressure sensor on the Volvo parts catalogue does not appear to be bipolar.
I know that Amel had the engine modified by Volvo to be dual pole.
Perhaps look for a bipolar oil pressure sensor to avoid losing the protection fitted by Amel?

Dominique


Re: Volvo Penta D3 110i-A

Dominique Sery
 

 
Nick,

The oil pressure sensor on the Volvo parts catalogue does not appear to be bipolar.
I know that Amel had the engine modified by Volvo to be dual pole.
Perhaps look for a bipolar oil pressure sensor to avoid losing the protection fitted by Amel?

Dominique


Re: Volvo Penta D3 110i-A

Dominique Sery
 

Hi Nick,

The oil pressure sensor for the Volvo 110iA is part number 3545696.
I am posting the spare parts catalog view I have with a link to download it 
(in French but with drawings)

http://dominiquesery.fr/telechargements/Volvo-eclate-pieces-detachees.pdf

Best regards
Dominique
Irko
A54#16 (Kilada Greece)


Re: change of ball bearings of traveller cars on our 54

Dominique Sery
 

Hi,

It's very easy to do, I did it last year, there is no need to dismantle the traveller car, you just have to remove a small plate to have access to the balls.

Best
Dominique
Irko A54#16 (Kilada, Greece)


Re: modified stern railing on 54 to carry line drums

Peter Forbes
 

Martin,

Very nice - where did you have this done?

Peter
Peter Forbes
Amel54 #035
Lymington UK

On 16 Apr 2022, at 12:05, Martin Birkhoff <mbirkhoff@...> wrote:

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modified stern railing on 54 to carry line drums

Martin Birkhoff
 

Hi all,

inspired by an SM we saw in La Rochelle, we modified the stern railing on our 54. It should be suitable for line drums in the future. Maybe some of you will be interested in the result (see pics). 


- The half-modified stern rail ends in the fitting of the previous centre support.

- Both crossbeam tubes can be removed

- Currently the tubes are fixed with quick release fasteners

- If necessary, the quick release fasteners can be replaced by bolts and nuts to create a very stiff connection.

- The previous cable ties only had to be shortened.


The new railing can be completely removed if necessary.

 

Regards

Martin

Mago del Sur - 54#40

currently Marina di Ragusa, Sicily

 


change of ball bearings of traveller cars on our 54

Martin Birkhoff
 

Hi all,

we fear the balls of the Antal traveller cars on our 54 have reached the end of life. Does anyone have experience in replacing the ball bearings? Do the traveller cars have to be removed? Or can this be done when the trolleys are just in place? Any advice is welcome.

Martin
Mago del Sur - 54#40
currently Marina di Ragusa, Sicily


Re: Volvo Penta D3 110i-A

Slavko Despotovic
 

This is how one can find what is he looking for.It It is not for your engine model number. It is for D3-110I-C. I do not know the difference between A and C model.

https://marinepartseurope.com/explodedview?category=Marine+Diesel+Engines&product=D3-110I-C&catalog=M-D3-B_INB&img=50584.png&header=Lubricating+System&section=54160697--

Slavko
SM 2000
#279 Bonne Anse in Croatia


Re: Volvo Penta D3 110i-A

Slavko Despotovic
 

Hi NIck,

Try site www.marinepartseurope.com. There you can search by Volvo engine model,  and for every part of the engine there is schematics as well. Then just order. I usually buy from them.

Regards.
--
Slavko
SM 2000
#279 Bonne Anse in Croatia


Volvo Penta D3 110i-A

Nick Newington
 

I am at home in the U.K. and Amelia is in Leros.
In the photo below you can see what I believe to be the oil pressure monitor that has a small oil leak. Located just beside the base of the dip stick tube.
It needs to be replaced but my parts catalogue is on the boat…

Anyone know the part number??.

There has been a very small oil leak that side of the engine and no space to see due to the fuel tank location.
I could not find it all last summer and autumn, until I bought a selfie stick and took lots of photos with my phone, that finally revealed the problem.


Nick

S/Y Amelia
AML54-019
Leros Gr


trying to contact boat owner

Eric Freedman
 

Hi,

I am trying to contact Stephen  Lees

Owner Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #349 Named Sequel.

Does anyone know him?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 


Re: Galley Exhaust Amel 54

Bill Kinney
 

I'll preface this with the comment that I believe the galley exhaust system used on the 54 us identical to the system used on the SM. If that is not true then everything below can be ignored...

On the SM the galley exhaust fan is exactly the same Jabsco fan used in the engine room ventilating system. The difference is that the galley fan runs at 24V and the engine room fans run at 12 for longer life, reduced RPM and reduced noise.  

I do not know of any option that allows you to reduce the noise, and keep the airfow.  But, one option is to do what Amel did on the engine room fans.  Run the 24V rated fan motors on 12 volts. This would involve  a significant amount of re-wiring to connect them to one of the 24 -> 12 converters.  The upside is that it would reduce the rotational speed--and noise--of the fan.  The downside is it would reduce the airflow and efficiency of the exhaust.

I tolerate the noise because it is very effective as a galley exhaust fan, much more so than most I have had even on dirt-based homes. Your opinion might be different.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
San Salvidor, Bahamas


Re: Santorin helm seat support pipe loose

JOHN HAYES
 

Morning Craig

A large crew member managed to sit in the steering seat and the whole arrangement dropped about a foot. Sorry no photos. We cut access from the engine room glued a new wooden support then fibre glassed the wooden support and base of the metal support pole (original and un modified) and it’s been fine ever since. 

The only movement now is about 1 mm where the seat pole comes through the fiber glass floor. It’s got no worse in 3 years in some pretty rough water in the pacific and sub Antarctic. 

It looked more difficult to fix than it was

John Hayes
Nga Waka (1991)

Currently in waikawa marina near Picton
 


On 16/04/2022, at 5:12 AM, Ian Park <parkianj@...> wrote:

Craig,
It is bolted on to the original pipe which is still welded to the bottom plate. If I took the bolts out it would probably slide off. 
Mine was moving from side to side. There was only one bolt holding the sleeve on (fore and aft) which suggests the white nylon insert is only at the top. I drilled a new hole across the bottom which locked everything in place. I’d tried tightening the bolts in the engine room before this. 
I guess at some stage I’ll have to address the rusting plate issue

Ian


On 15 Apr 2022, at 17:07, Craig Briggs <sangaris68@...> wrote:

Hi Ian,
     Your picture of the bottom looks exactly like mine. On top, though, I have only a single pipe going straight up to the seat. It seems pretty certain that a prior owner of your boat must have cut off the original pipe a few inches above the base and a few inches below the seat and then added the sleeve so it could be adjusted up or down, swiveled, or removed. A fine idea.
     In my case of not being able to tighten either bolt, the seat is rotating back and forth about maybe 3° or 4°. That causes it to hit the lazarette seat when you open that and to be quite wobbly when you sit in it.
     Short of cutting open the base, I suppose I could copy your sleeve idea but weld a small metal tab on either side at the bottom going down an inch or so over the base and bolt those tabs into the base to prevent any rotation.
     It would be great to know exactly how that pipe was fastened into the floor inside of the base - Joel or Olivier, any ideas?

Best regards,
Craig Briggs - s/v Sangaris / SN68  Tropic Isle Harbor, FL


Re: Wiring advice going from old outhaul motor to new

Kelly Service
 

So we must have refit fatigue, LOL.

Is this what happens when you have been going hard for the last 6 months and you are about 2 weeks from going back in the water?  Your brain shuts down?

We were so focused on "motor" that we did not even think about the relays in the head.  As soon as we opened them up the drawing that Maud sent us made perfect sense.  

The light bulb went off!  Was able to rewire the relay, hook the motor up, close it up and test it within about a hour and a half.  So silly.

Thanks for being there!

Kelly
SV LeaLou, #141
St. Marys, GA


Re: Wiring advice going from old outhaul motor to new

 

Is it possible that she sent you a replacement for the Leroy Somer motor/gearbox rather than the Bonfiglioli motor gearbox? I believe the Bonfiglioli has 4 wires and the Leroy Somer 2 wires.

Below is a Bonfiglioli
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This guy may be able to help you he is a Bonfiglioli dealer:

MITCH SILVERMAN

DRIVETECH AUTOMATION, INC.

5401 NW 102ND AVE.  #146

SUNRISE, FL. 33351

TEL: 954-746-9800

FAX: 954-746-5509

WEBSITE: WWW.DRIVETECHONLINE.COM

 

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CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   


On Fri, Apr 15, 2022 at 1:29 PM Kelly Service <svlealou@...> wrote:
So, this might be really simple, but we want to make sure we know what we are doing before we dive in.

We are at the end of a major refit and when we took the cover off the outhaul motor water poured out.  Sigh. 😒  

No worries, we were able to get another motor very quickly from Amel.  The old motor has four wires coming out of it and the new motor has two.  Maud did include a wire kit and hand drawn directions on what the wire conversions were, but we are a bit unclear as to what wires we are supposed to be hooking the conversion kit up to.  

I have no information on the old motor, it has no identifying information.  The gearbox is a Bonfiglioli though and the new motor is a Cima 30843.

So, if anyone who has replaced an old four wire motor with a newer two wire motor could just give us some direction, we would be very grateful.  Thanks so much in advance.

Gosh I hope this isn't a stupid question! 🤣

Kelly
SV LeaLou, #191
St. Mary, Georgia


Re: Solas tape

 


On Fri, Apr 15, 2022 at 10:01 AM Stefano Biffi <cptbiffi@...> wrote:
Since 2016 I had a 3M solas tape all around the lady; now it’s time to renew, unfortunately no one in USA is mailing  the solas tape to Italy. I offered them to pay the expedition in advance with no success. Anyone of You find the same tape in Europe?
My old choice was 1 inch for 150 feet, height is mandatory but any length is  manageable
Happy Eastern

Stefano Biffi
N’EVEREST Super Maramu 185
dry dock in Italy





Wiring advice going from old outhaul motor to new

Kelly Service
 
Edited

So, this might be really simple, but we want to make sure we know what we are doing before we dive in.

We are at the end of a major refit and when we took the cover off the outhaul motor water poured out.  Sigh. 😒  

No worries, we were able to get another motor very quickly from Amel.  The old motor has four wires coming out of it and the new motor has two.  Maud did include a wire kit and hand drawn directions on what the wire conversions were, but we are a bit unclear as to what wires we are supposed to be hooking the conversion kit up to.  

I have no information on the old motor, it has no identifying information.  The gearbox is a Bonfiglioli though and the new motor is a Cima 30843.

So, if anyone who has replaced an old four wire motor with a newer two wire motor could just give us some direction, we would be very grateful.  Thanks so much in advance.

Gosh I hope this isn't a stupid question! 🤣

Kelly
SV LeaLou, #141
St. Mary, Georgia

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