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Re: Feruno GPS workaround

Chuck_Kim_Joy
 

Hi Nick. 
I have a gp 80 that I brought back to life with a battery change. I also bought a mushroom antenna and installed it just like you. Tied up in the cabinet and "works a treat" as my English friends say. Don't get the right date though but everything else is functional. 
All the best!
Chuck and Kim 
Joy SM 388

On Sat, May 14, 2022 at 9:54 PM Nick Newington via groups.io <ngtnewington=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
No the GP 90 is disconnected from the network.

It still works but only to give lat/long on its own display. In practice it is turned off.
Nick
S/Y Amelia 
Aml55-019
Fethiye Bay


On 14 May 2022, at 18:12, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:


Just a guess but is the GP90 still connected to the network?



On Sat, May 14, 2022 at 4:23 PM Nick Newington via groups.io <ngtnewington=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:

I have a Feruno GP90 that still works but now all the data ports have quit.
I bought an inexpensive mushroom GPS receiver and an Actisense NMEA expander that works well so the VHF,  SSB, and Navnet 2 all have position.

Interestingly the mushroom gps antenna is just tie wrapped in the cabinet above the chart table and gets position as well as the external antenna on the main gps.

The problem is that the Navnet keeps forgetting the installation when I turn it off, though not always. I have to go through the installation wizard to get it working.

Why would this be?
Especially not always?
When I check the parameters that I set and NMEA sentences they are as I set them…so not a memory problem..

It is not a big deal as I can on powering up press MENU and POWER simultaneously and go to the wizard each time….but baffling.

Does anyone know of a trick/solution. I am wondering if it is Feruno trying to make me buy their new GPS!

Nick
S/Y Amelia
Anchored Fethiye bay
AML 54-019






Re: Feruno GPS workaround

Nick Newington
 

No the GP 90 is disconnected from the network.

It still works but only to give lat/long on its own display. In practice it is turned off.
Nick
S/Y Amelia 
Aml55-019
Fethiye Bay


On 14 May 2022, at 18:12, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:


Just a guess but is the GP90 still connected to the network?


CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   

On Sat, May 14, 2022 at 4:23 PM Nick Newington via groups.io <ngtnewington=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:

I have a Feruno GP90 that still works but now all the data ports have quit.
I bought an inexpensive mushroom GPS receiver and an Actisense NMEA expander that works well so the VHF,  SSB, and Navnet 2 all have position.

Interestingly the mushroom gps antenna is just tie wrapped in the cabinet above the chart table and gets position as well as the external antenna on the main gps.

The problem is that the Navnet keeps forgetting the installation when I turn it off, though not always. I have to go through the installation wizard to get it working.

Why would this be?
Especially not always?
When I check the parameters that I set and NMEA sentences they are as I set them…so not a memory problem..

It is not a big deal as I can on powering up press MENU and POWER simultaneously and go to the wizard each time….but baffling.

Does anyone know of a trick/solution. I am wondering if it is Feruno trying to make me buy their new GPS!

Nick
S/Y Amelia
Anchored Fethiye bay
AML 54-019






Re: Amel lost its mast - D1?

Laurens Vos
 

Our good old A54 does has the babystay in the foretriangle.
This isn’t fitted without reason. 
On the A50 and A 60 this babystay is not there anymore. 
So I was asking myself :
Would this A50 also have lost her mast if she had a babystay fitted like the A54 ?  


Re: Climma Compact 9EH M60018AMEL with M61037AMEL Electrical Box

Tony Elliott
 

Thanks Bill, but I already have all of those. I'm looking for the schematic for the electrical box and specifically the connections to the compressor capacitors and identification of components in the EB.

One of my Climma Compact 9EH is a missing 10uF compressor capacitor and also missing a small device that I cannot yet identify. The device connects between the 10 and 40uF caps as shown in the first picture. It is a device that, on one of my other units is kept in place with a riveted spring bracket, and on the other with a zip tie!!.

On the unit in question, it's gone altogether and the circuit has been "jimmy-rigged" to use the 40uF capacitor to start and run the compressor (with success I might add, it seems to work very well). This is shown in the second picture. I've also attached a picture of the device itself - it has two connectors, seems to be made by a company called Electra, and has printed upon it: P210D 230V-343. Two small holes exist on the bottom side one labeled M, the other S. 

I'm trying to identify what this part is so that I can replace it and get the unit back to its original design state.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.









Tony
SM#443-Grand Cru


Re: AML 54 fridge cooling

Laurens Vos
 
Edited

Does anyone knows where to buy in other parts of Europe ?
ii’ve search everywhere on the internet but could not find any dealer or chandlery which has Barnacle Buster. 
Or is it under a different name in Europe on the market ? 


Laurens 
Fun@Sea 
La Rochelle 


Re: Small AC unit and extra drawers

 

Jose & Mark,

In my experience in Cartagena, you can get anything made or repaired. Things like board-level electronic repair, motor rewinding, AC components rebuilt, all sorts of woodworking, etc. There was a German guy there that knew nothing about satellite phones and did some board-level repair to ours. He also repaired electronic PCBs in radars, autopilots, etc. I am sure he could repair the notorious Onan PCB that cannot be found anymore.

Bill

CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   


On Sat, May 14, 2022 at 5:04 PM Jose Venegas via groups.io <josegvenegas=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
Mark,

The carpenter’s name is Maximo Velez Gomez.
 His WhatsApp is +57 (310) 686-9188
and his daughter WhatsApp is +57 (313) 8517-243 :
He does not speak english but his daughter can translate for him.
He has detailed drawings and dimensions of the parts

Jose Gabriel Venegas
Ipanema SM2K  278







Re: Feruno GPS workaround

 

Just a guess but is the GP90 still connected to the network?


CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   


On Sat, May 14, 2022 at 4:23 PM Nick Newington via groups.io <ngtnewington=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:

I have a Feruno GP90 that still works but now all the data ports have quit.
I bought an inexpensive mushroom GPS receiver and an Actisense NMEA expander that works well so the VHF,  SSB, and Navnet 2 all have position.

Interestingly the mushroom gps antenna is just tie wrapped in the cabinet above the chart table and gets position as well as the external antenna on the main gps.

The problem is that the Navnet keeps forgetting the installation when I turn it off, though not always. I have to go through the installation wizard to get it working.

Why would this be?
Especially not always?
When I check the parameters that I set and NMEA sentences they are as I set them…so not a memory problem..

It is not a big deal as I can on powering up press MENU and POWER simultaneously and go to the wizard each time….but baffling.

Does anyone know of a trick/solution. I am wondering if it is Feruno trying to make me buy their new GPS!

Nick
S/Y Amelia
Anchored Fethiye bay
AML 54-019






Re: Small AC unit and extra drawers

Jose Venegas
 

Mark,

The carpenter’s name is Maximo Velez Gomez.
His WhatsApp is +57 (310) 686-9188
and his daughter WhatsApp is +57 (313) 8517-243 :
He does not speak english but his daughter can translate for him.
He has detailed drawings and dimensions of the parts

Jose Gabriel Venegas
Ipanema SM2K 278


Feruno GPS workaround

Nick Newington
 

I have a Feruno GP90 that still works but now all the data ports have quit.
I bought an inexpensive mushroom GPS receiver and an Actisense NMEA expander that works well so the VHF, SSB, and Navnet 2 all have position.

Interestingly the mushroom gps antenna is just tie wrapped in the cabinet above the chart table and gets position as well as the external antenna on the main gps.

The problem is that the Navnet keeps forgetting the installation when I turn it off, though not always. I have to go through the installation wizard to get it working.

Why would this be?
Especially not always?
When I check the parameters that I set and NMEA sentences they are as I set them…so not a memory problem..

It is not a big deal as I can on powering up press MENU and POWER simultaneously and go to the wizard each time….but baffling.

Does anyone know of a trick/solution. I am wondering if it is Feruno trying to make me buy their new GPS!

Nick
S/Y Amelia
Anchored Fethiye bay
AML 54-019


Re: Climma Compact 9EH M60018AMEL with M61037AMEL Electrical Box

 

Tony,

The following should be what you want


CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   


On Sat, May 14, 2022 at 3:39 PM Tony Elliott <tonye@...> wrote:
Hello all,

I have a request to make to all Amel SM owners. I am looking for the circuit diagram for the Climma Compact 9 AMEL electrical box - part number M61037AMEL. I have collected other cct diagrams through this forum for the Climma systems (M4659A panel, pump relay box M4622) but I am unable to locate this specific cct diagram. I have three of these onboard and am assuming they are original units. The M61037AMEL is the part number on the label of the internal frame where all the relays and capacitor connections are made. The black plastic electrical box cover shows a different part number of M60018AMEL. 

Thanks in advance,

Tony Elliott
SM#443, Grand Cru


Climma Compact 9EH M60018AMEL with M61037AMEL Electrical Box

Tony Elliott
 

Hello all,

I have a request to make to all Amel SM owners. I am looking for the circuit diagram for the Climma Compact 9 AMEL electrical box - part number M61037AMEL. I have collected other cct diagrams through this forum for the Climma systems (M4659A panel, pump relay box M4622) but I am unable to locate this specific cct diagram. I have three of these onboard and am assuming they are original units. The M61037AMEL is the part number on the label of the internal frame where all the relays and capacitor connections are made. The black plastic electrical box cover shows a different part number of M60018AMEL. 

Thanks in advance,

Tony Elliott
SM#443, Grand Cru


Re: Small AC unit and extra drawers

Mark McGovern
 

Jose,

The woodworking is beautiful!  Can you post the contact information or send it to me via email?


On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 8:34 PM Jose Venegas via groups.io <josegvenegas=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

I originally bought a small window AC until in Panama to keep the boat dry while we were out for a month. It cost $80, uses only 500 watts, is cooled by air, and does not need to keep the water pump running, which is a real hazard when not aboard, and it works with the boat on the hard.  After one month we went back to Colon and Ipanema was dry, cool, and smelled like a rose. The first night I fiddled around with the direction of a few fans and was able to move enough cool air to the aft cabin to make it very comfortable at night running for just one or two hours with the lithium batteries and inverter.   We liked it so much that left the AC unit in place for the next six months in rainy Bocas del Toro, and while we sailed to San Andrés and then to Cartagena Colombia.  Here, taking advantage of the inexpensive labor, we decided to make the AC unit a semi-permanent feature, protecting it with wood, while making a small table and adding a removable step to the staircase.  The carpenter was so good and reasonably priced that I added 3 sliding drawers under the stair steps.  AS it turned out, his quality was so good that I am contracting with him to fabricate doors to cover the “ex wet closet” in the next couple of weeks.
Pix were uploaded to Photos
Jose Gabriel Venegas
Ipanema SM2k  278
Club de Pesca, Cartagena


--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Annapolis, MD USA


Small AC unit and extra drawers

Jose Venegas
 
Edited

I originally bought a small window AC until in Panama to keep the boat dry while we were out for a month. It cost $80, uses only 500 watts, is cooled by air, and does not need to keep the water pump running, which is a real hazard when not aboard, and it works with the boat on the hard.  After one month we went back to Colon and Ipanema was dry, cool, and smelled like a rose. The first night I fiddled around with the direction of a few fans and was able to move enough cool air to the aft cabin to make it very comfortable at night running for just one or two hours with the lithium batteries and inverter.   We liked it so much that left the AC unit in place for the next six months in rainy Bocas del Toro, and while we sailed to San Andrés and then to Cartagena Colombia.  Here, taking advantage of the inexpensive labor, we decided to make the AC unit a semi-permanent feature, protecting it with wood, while making a small table and adding a removable step to the staircase.  The carpenter was so good and reasonably priced that I added 3 sliding drawers under the stair steps.  AS it turned out, his quality was so good that I am contracting with him to fabricate doors to cover the “ex wet closet” in the next couple of weeks.
Pix were uploaded to Photos
Jose Gabriel Venegas
Ipanema SM2k  278
Club de Pesca, Cartagena


Re: modified stern rail on 54 to carry drum (Ankarolina on a Santorin)

Jose Venegas
 

Thanks a lot, Craig,   
I have a spool of woven rode and a fortress anchor like yours, but I have kept it in a bag inside the garage without much use.  Next time I get the chance I will dig it out, assemble it and mount it like you.
Fair winds
Jose Gabriel Venegas
Ipanema SM2K 278


Re: Fresh Water Tank cleaning with isopropyl alcohol

Ulrich Michael Dangelmeyer
 

👏👍

Am 12.05.2022 um 20:51 schrieb Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...>:



Hi Ulrich;

 

Picked it up from an industrial supply house in Montenegro. I’m not on board and don’t remember the exact model, but if you search for submersible trash pumps, you should get a few pop up. They are not small but not too large either. Ours barely fits through the fresh water tank access hole. This was important so the cleaning of the water tank is now quick and easy. We did notice some spots on the walls of the tank, added 9 liters of regular bleach to 900 for a 1% mix. Left it for 24 hours , pumped it out with the pump and flushed the tank with fresh water 3 times. Ended up with a spotless tank that looked brand new.

 

I’ll be on board end of next week. If you have problems finding one, let me know and I can send you a picture of the label on the pump. We also got a long fire hose, so we can place the pump anywhere on the boat. Still hoping that this pump never has to touch salt water.

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ulrich Michael Dangelmeyer via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2022 10:28 AM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Fresh Water Tank cleaning with isopropyl alcohol

 

Hi Mohammad & Aty,

Please, what’s the brand and type of this monster pump.

Professional firefighters equipment?

Thanks for Info 

Best 

Ulrich 

Soleil Bleu A54#088



Am 12.05.2022 um 19:44 schrieb Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...>:



We carry a 220 V trash pump that pumps about 2000 liters (500 gallons)/minute for emergencies. It is designed to continue pumping even with trash and other items that may be floating around, fits through the fresh water tank opening and empties out the entire 900 liters under a minute with a fire hose. We did weigh the risk/benefits of the 220V vs 24V and felt the risk of high voltage with a pump designed to work in wet and submersible environment, was worth the benefit of moving a considerable amount of water volume. It can be run off of the inverter and with the generator and full tank of diesel, the pump can run for days. We may also pick up a good 24V pump, to have both options, since they do not take much room. When you look at how much water can come in, even from a small hole/crack, being able to move a high quantity of water, provides valuable extra time to effect repairs.

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2022 8:18 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Fresh Water Tank cleaning with isopropyl alcohol

 

I recommend the submersible pump for 2 reasons:

  1. The boat's freshwater pump can be used, but it is probably not rated for continuous use. I say probably because the original pumps installed by Amel in the SN, SM, 54, 55 & 50 are not rated for continuous use, and how do I know what the previous owner(s) replaced the original pump with. Although it would not be continuous use, it would be a lot more than normal use.
  2. You should probably have a pump similar to the RULE 1500 to 3000 GPH submersible pump for lots of other reasons, including most insurance policies currently require more than the capacity of the gray water pump.

Bill



CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School

720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 

   

 

On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 8:08 AM Gregory Dmitriev <41greg.marine@...> wrote:

Hi Bill,
looks clear, but why you recommend to use submergible pump instead of regular fresh water pump? If the chlorine solution (very diluted, like  5% of 1L ->50g to 900 L -> 0,005%) will go out through black water tanks and the bilge, would it also give extra disinfection?

Thx,

GD
A54 172


Re: Any clues to this mystery prize?

JB Duler
 

And there is a matching brush that fits nicely inside
--
John Bernard "JB" Duler
San Francisco
Meltem # 19, Western Med


Re: Fresh Water Tank cleaning with isopropyl alcohol

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Hi Ulrich;

 

Picked it up from an industrial supply house in Montenegro. I’m not on board and don’t remember the exact model, but if you search for submersible trash pumps, you should get a few pop up. They are not small but not too large either. Ours barely fits through the fresh water tank access hole. This was important so the cleaning of the water tank is now quick and easy. We did notice some spots on the walls of the tank, added 9 liters of regular bleach to 900 for a 1% mix. Left it for 24 hours , pumped it out with the pump and flushed the tank with fresh water 3 times. Ended up with a spotless tank that looked brand new.

 

I’ll be on board end of next week. If you have problems finding one, let me know and I can send you a picture of the label on the pump. We also got a long fire hose, so we can place the pump anywhere on the boat. Still hoping that this pump never has to touch salt water.

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ulrich Michael Dangelmeyer via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2022 10:28 AM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Fresh Water Tank cleaning with isopropyl alcohol

 

Hi Mohammad & Aty,

Please, what’s the brand and type of this monster pump.

Professional firefighters equipment?

Thanks for Info 

Best 

Ulrich 

Soleil Bleu A54#088



Am 12.05.2022 um 19:44 schrieb Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...>:



We carry a 220 V trash pump that pumps about 2000 liters (500 gallons)/minute for emergencies. It is designed to continue pumping even with trash and other items that may be floating around, fits through the fresh water tank opening and empties out the entire 900 liters under a minute with a fire hose. We did weigh the risk/benefits of the 220V vs 24V and felt the risk of high voltage with a pump designed to work in wet and submersible environment, was worth the benefit of moving a considerable amount of water volume. It can be run off of the inverter and with the generator and full tank of diesel, the pump can run for days. We may also pick up a good 24V pump, to have both options, since they do not take much room. When you look at how much water can come in, even from a small hole/crack, being able to move a high quantity of water, provides valuable extra time to effect repairs.

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2022 8:18 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Fresh Water Tank cleaning with isopropyl alcohol

 

I recommend the submersible pump for 2 reasons:

  1. The boat's freshwater pump can be used, but it is probably not rated for continuous use. I say probably because the original pumps installed by Amel in the SN, SM, 54, 55 & 50 are not rated for continuous use, and how do I know what the previous owner(s) replaced the original pump with. Although it would not be continuous use, it would be a lot more than normal use.
  2. You should probably have a pump similar to the RULE 1500 to 3000 GPH submersible pump for lots of other reasons, including most insurance policies currently require more than the capacity of the gray water pump.

Bill



CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School

720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 

   

 

On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 8:08 AM Gregory Dmitriev <41greg.marine@...> wrote:

Hi Bill,
looks clear, but why you recommend to use submergible pump instead of regular fresh water pump? If the chlorine solution (very diluted, like  5% of 1L ->50g to 900 L -> 0,005%) will go out through black water tanks and the bilge, would it also give extra disinfection?

Thx,

GD
A54 172


Re: Any clues to this mystery prize?

Dennis Johns
 

It's a dust/dirt pan.  If you sweep up the salon floor, all you have to do is lift the floorboard in front of the galley sink and sweep the debris into this pan, then dispose.

Dennis
Libertad
Maramu #121

On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 10:17 AM Sarah & Trevor McIlwaine <Ourbigboatyadventure@...> wrote:

Hi there, 

whilst rummanaging in lockers we came across the time below.  We’re on an 85 Amel Maramu, it’s the same colour as the heads flooring, there is nowhere else that looks like this, but neither of us can figure out where it might fit into the boat.

it’s too small to be a spare shower tray section.



there’s absolutely no prize , but massive kudos to whoever gets it right 😀

Thanks in advance, 
Sarah & Trev, Elice #162


The picture is against a standard laptop case for scale


Re: Fresh Water Tank cleaning with isopropyl alcohol

Ulrich Michael Dangelmeyer
 

Hi Mohammad & Aty,
Please, what’s the brand and type of this monster pump.
Professional firefighters equipment?
Thanks for Info 
Best 
Ulrich 
Soleil Bleu A54#088

Am 12.05.2022 um 19:44 schrieb Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...>:



We carry a 220 V trash pump that pumps about 2000 liters (500 gallons)/minute for emergencies. It is designed to continue pumping even with trash and other items that may be floating around, fits through the fresh water tank opening and empties out the entire 900 liters under a minute with a fire hose. We did weigh the risk/benefits of the 220V vs 24V and felt the risk of high voltage with a pump designed to work in wet and submersible environment, was worth the benefit of moving a considerable amount of water volume. It can be run off of the inverter and with the generator and full tank of diesel, the pump can run for days. We may also pick up a good 24V pump, to have both options, since they do not take much room. When you look at how much water can come in, even from a small hole/crack, being able to move a high quantity of water, provides valuable extra time to effect repairs.

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2022 8:18 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Fresh Water Tank cleaning with isopropyl alcohol

 

I recommend the submersible pump for 2 reasons:

  1. The boat's freshwater pump can be used, but it is probably not rated for continuous use. I say probably because the original pumps installed by Amel in the SN, SM, 54, 55 & 50 are not rated for continuous use, and how do I know what the previous owner(s) replaced the original pump with. Although it would not be continuous use, it would be a lot more than normal use.
  2. You should probably have a pump similar to the RULE 1500 to 3000 GPH submersible pump for lots of other reasons, including most insurance policies currently require more than the capacity of the gray water pump.

Bill



CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School

720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 

   

 

On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 8:08 AM Gregory Dmitriev <41greg.marine@...> wrote:

Hi Bill,
looks clear, but why you recommend to use submergible pump instead of regular fresh water pump? If the chlorine solution (very diluted, like  5% of 1L ->50g to 900 L -> 0,005%) will go out through black water tanks and the bilge, would it also give extra disinfection?

Thx,

GD
A54 172


Re: Any clues to this mystery prize?

Pierre Salaun
 

Hi

It fits under the floor board as storage above the bilge on my Amel Euros 41.

Not sure of the exact usage ...



Le jeu. 12 mai 2022 à 19:18, Sarah & Trevor McIlwaine <Ourbigboatyadventure@...> a écrit :

Hi there, 

whilst rummanaging in lockers we came across the time below.  We’re on an 85 Amel Maramu, it’s the same colour as the heads flooring, there is nowhere else that looks like this, but neither of us can figure out where it might fit into the boat.

it’s too small to be a spare shower tray section.



there’s absolutely no prize , but massive kudos to whoever gets it right 😀

Thanks in advance, 
Sarah & Trev, Elice #162


The picture is against a standard laptop case for scale

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