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Re: Watermaker membrane #solution #replacement

Slavko Despotovic
 

Hello Jose,

Here is email address where you can inquire for membranes. Cost was 609€ including VAT and delivery to Slovenia.

Bastien@...

best regards
--
Slavko
SM 2000
#279 Bonne Anse in Croatia


Re: Watermaker membrane #solution #replacement

Germain Jean-Pierre
 

Hello Gili,

You can email him directly at yachtconceptmallorca@...

C. / Vela 22,
Mallorca
07680 Porto Cristo
Spain

+34 619 658 312

He is brilliant and recommended by myself, Bruno ( Tertio A55 #63) as well as Robin on Carré d’As.

Good luck.

Jean-Pierre  


On 9 Jun 2022, at 11:56, Gili Yehzkel <gili39@...> wrote:

Hi Jean.

Do you have Peter Kuklok contact information please ? I definitely can use his service.

Best,
Gili
A55 #68 in Palma 

On Jun 9, 2022, at 16:28, Germain Jean-Pierre <jp.germain45@...> wrote:

Peter Kuklok


Re: Watermaker membrane #solution #replacement

Gili Yehzkel
 

Hi Jean.

Do you have Peter Kuklok contact information please ? I definitely can use his service.

Best,
Gili
A55 #68 in Palma 

On Jun 9, 2022, at 16:28, Germain Jean-Pierre <jp.germain45@...> wrote:

Peter Kuklok


Re: Watermaker membrane #solution #replacement

JOSE PRIETO
 

Hi Jean-Pierre,

It’s nice to know, but we left Mallorca las week, next port Genoa - Italy.

cheers

Jose

--
Jose Prieto
SV Wayag, SM 323
Currently Menorca , Spain


Re: Watermaker membrane #solution #replacement

JOSE PRIETO
 

Hi Bill, thanks for the reply.  I understand that the TDS is just a number.  I've read a lot about water quality, adequate indices, how to get the values ​​and so on.  I noticed that the quality of the water we produced dropped a lot, slightly brackish.  When I took the measurement, I found that the number was indeed high.  As a reference, the TDS of the mineral water we have on board (250ppm) showed that something was different.  The first thing that came to my mind was to change the membranes or treat them, in an attempt to make them survive.  I looked it up on the internet and the prices of membranes in Europe are absurd compared to the US.  The cleaning chemicals (citric acid I think), I'm waiting for the Dessalator dealer to inform me about availability and price.  I found the membranes in China, with different manufacturer than DOW, the price much better, but…


cheers,

JP
--
Jose Prieto
SV Wayag, SM 323
Currently Menorca, Spain


Re: Watermaker membrane #solution #replacement

Germain Jean-Pierre
 

Hello Jose,

I lived for 8 years in Majorca.  One of the finest Amel technician I’ve known works in Cala d’Oro or nearby.  His name is Peter Kuklok.  One of the best!  

Used by many Amelians.  

Good luck.

Jean-Pierre 


On 9 Jun 2022, at 10:15, JOSE PRIETO <prietomd11@...> wrote:

Hi Jean-Pierre, 

Thanks for the feedback!
By coincidence I recently replaced the primary filter with a new one.  I confess I didn't like the look of the filter, but the specifications were correct.  I will follow your suggestion and switch again.  It will be hard to find a good product around here.

cheers

JP

--
Jose Prieto
SV Wayag, SM 323
Currently Menorca, Spain


Fridge pump

Denis Elborn
 

G’day everyone,
We have a reoccurring problem with our fridge pump, it suddenly start’s transmitting the noise of the pump thru’ the boat. Changing pumps does nothing. It suddenly disappears for no reason. Any ideas would be appreciated.

Den and Julie
A54-159
Hvar, Croatia


Re: Watermaker membrane #solution #replacement

JOSE PRIETO
 

Hi Jean-Pierre, 

Thanks for the feedback!
By coincidence I recently replaced the primary filter with a new one.  I confess I didn't like the look of the filter, but the specifications were correct.  I will follow your suggestion and switch again.  It will be hard to find a good product around here.

cheers

JP

--
Jose Prieto
SV Wayag, SM 323
Currently Menorca, Spain


Re: Watermaker membrane #solution #replacement

Germain Jean-Pierre
 

Hello Jose,

When I had the same symptoms as you, I changed the primary filter and had good results.  

You can procure new filters from Water Anywhere.  Based in USA, they deliver where you are moored.  Prices are better than Dessalator.  Do a Google search, you will find them.

Good luck

Jean-Pierre Germain, formerly Eleuthera, SM007


On 9 Jun 2022, at 09:11, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:


When Judy and I were sailing around the world our primary source of freshwater was the D160 watermaker. We preferred TDS less than 300 and changed the membranes about every 3.0 to 3.5 years. With new membranes, we would get about 100 TDS. The TDS would slowly increase to near 300 in 3 years. The WHO states 500 is OK, but I am not sure because the one time we went to 350 we noticed our ankles swelling. Of course, this is not a scientific measurement and increased salt affects people differently, but I believe that generally speaking, increased salt will affect older people more than younger.

Bill

CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   

On Thu, Jun 9, 2022 at 6:26 AM JOSE PRIETO <prietomd11@...> wrote:

Dear Amelians, I ask for help.  

My Desalator D60 watermaker has been little used in its life apparently.  In the last 4 months I've been using it more intensively (at least 2 times a week).  I always measure the TDS and normally it was below 500 ppm, around 450. A few days ago the ppm suddenly went up to 960, and I notice that the watermaker often goes beyond the green range after some time of water production, and turns off (Red light).  I immediately think about replacing the membranes, but I have no experience in the behavior of the membrane, if it deteriorates quickly, or the tds goes down slowly.  Another observation is that the value of the membrane in the USA is around 250 usd, and in Europe where I am, the Desalator dealer asks for 400 euros per membrane.  Any help will be welcome
--
Jose Prieto
SV Wayag, SM 323
Currently Menorca, Spain


Re: Watermaker membrane #solution #replacement

 

When Judy and I were sailing around the world our primary source of freshwater was the D160 watermaker. We preferred TDS less than 300 and changed the membranes about every 3.0 to 3.5 years. With new membranes, we would get about 100 TDS. The TDS would slowly increase to near 300 in 3 years. The WHO states 500 is OK, but I am not sure because the one time we went to 350 we noticed our ankles swelling. Of course, this is not a scientific measurement and increased salt affects people differently, but I believe that generally speaking, increased salt will affect older people more than younger.

Bill

CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   


On Thu, Jun 9, 2022 at 6:26 AM JOSE PRIETO <prietomd11@...> wrote:

Dear Amelians, I ask for help.  

My Desalator D60 watermaker has been little used in its life apparently.  In the last 4 months I've been using it more intensively (at least 2 times a week).  I always measure the TDS and normally it was below 500 ppm, around 450. A few days ago the ppm suddenly went up to 960, and I notice that the watermaker often goes beyond the green range after some time of water production, and turns off (Red light).  I immediately think about replacing the membranes, but I have no experience in the behavior of the membrane, if it deteriorates quickly, or the tds goes down slowly.  Another observation is that the value of the membrane in the USA is around 250 usd, and in Europe where I am, the Desalator dealer asks for 400 euros per membrane.  Any help will be welcome
--
Jose Prieto
SV Wayag, SM 323
Currently Menorca, Spain


Watermaker membrane #solution #replacement

JOSE PRIETO
 

Dear Amelians, I ask for help.  

My Desalator D60 watermaker has been little used in its life apparently.  In the last 4 months I've been using it more intensively (at least 2 times a week).  I always measure the TDS and normally it was below 500 ppm, around 450. A few days ago the ppm suddenly went up to 960, and I notice that the watermaker often goes beyond the green range after some time of water production, and turns off (Red light).  I immediately think about replacing the membranes, but I have no experience in the behavior of the membrane, if it deteriorates quickly, or the tds goes down slowly.  Another observation is that the value of the membrane in the USA is around 250 usd, and in Europe where I am, the Desalator dealer asks for 400 euros per membrane.  Any help will be welcome
--
Jose Prieto
SV Wayag, SM 323
Currently Menorca, Spain


Re: Saloon 9eh Climma Air Conditioner replacement

Mark Erdos
 

 

 

Hi Eric,

Yes it fits. It is a very tight fit. I should also tell you I removed the foam and wood Amel had for the Climma unit to sit on. Since the Webasto compressor has a floating mount, this is not needed. You should measure without the wood and foam padding. If you feel the need to dampen the sound, you could use a much thinner rubber pad. I didn't see the need and am happy with the sound level. I think it is comparable to the Climma I replaced.

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us


On 6/7/2022 9:19 AM, Eric Freedman wrote:

Hi Mark,

Did this unit fit under the saloon seat?

I measure 12 inches this unit seems to be 13 inches high.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io On Behalf Of Mark Erdos
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2022 11:00 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Saloon 9eh Climma Air Conditioner replacement

 

Hi Eric,

Hope all is well.

As my Climma units die, I have been replacing them with Webasto FCF Platinum units. I am very happy with these. My oldest Webasto unit is 2 years old. The plumbing for seawater is the same size and the units are plug and play. It includes the control panel, so this is an additional savings. The units appear to be well-made.

One of the key selling points for me was the cooling water requirements (GPH). It is much lower than Dometic requirements and as you know the Amel moves the same water through all 3 units, so it is good not to have a finicky unit that will shut down. Also, they are less expensive.

https://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1&id=3050595

Hope this helps.

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff

www.creampuff.us

 

On 6/6/2022 3:44 PM, Eric Freedman wrote:

Has anyone replaced the Climma compact 9eh unit in the saloon?

I replaced the aft cabin one with a Dometic, but it will not fit under the seat in the saloon.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 


A suggestion for water cooled refrigerators

Bill Kinney
 

Just a thought for A54 owners who are struggling with their water cooled fridges.

Every boat that has a water-cooled cold box struggles with maintenance of that system.  The gains in efficiency brought by water cooling are frequently offset to a large extent by the increased complexity and decreased reliability.  Changing over to an air-cooled only system is frequently not a viable option because that can not be easily done without the tools and skills of a refrigeration technician.

But there is a viable alternative:  ADD air cooling and keep the existing water cooling loop.  

https://www.go2marine.com/Frigoboat-Add-on-Air-Cooled-Condenser-for-K35F-K50F-and-W50F (Nothing special about this vendor, just the first link to the product I could find.)

Now with TWO redundant cooling systems, you have an on-line back up if cooling water is lost.  You gain safety, because while you are away from the boat, you can shut the water circulation down and avoid the potential for a serious leak. You keep the higher efficiency of the water cooled loop when it is available, and you can use the fridge while the boat is out of the water.  Once the installation is complete, the air cooler is a passive device, until it is needed. If the water cooling clogs or fails, the air cooling just takes over without any operator intervention.

This is a relatively inexpensive modification, and is easily within the skill set of the average boat owner. The actual connections into the fridge gas piping are very simple.  The air cooled condenser comes pre-charged with the correct amount of freon, so no adjustment of the gas charge volume is needed.  The connections are all quick connect and are designed to be opened for maintenance without the loss of freon.

This is not always a walk in the park, however.  You need to have the physical room needed to install the new condenser, and you need to be sure that it can receive the air flow it needs. The fan does have a flange so you can add a flexible duct to draw air from a remote location. In some cases access to the fridge gas lines is difficult. 

But, if the air flow and mechanical access challenges can be sorted out, adding an air cooled condensor can make the system much more reliable and flexible.

Bill Kinney
SM160,  Harmonie
Le Marin, Martinique


locked Re: Engine troubles in Sardegna

Wolfgang Weber
 

We found the leakage of our coolingsystem by a pressure test . This equipment should have a normal car mechanic . The pressuetest will be done by filled up coolingsystem with pressing air in the system little above the noted pressure on the cap of the coolingsystem .
Wolfgang Weber SY Elise Amel 54 #162 La Rochelle


Re: "Filtre Eau Mer Puisard: what does it mean and how it works

 

Willem,

That EAU alarm, if not modified has two sensors. One is a high water alarm that was originally mounted behind the AC water pump, the other is a vacuum switch that is connected to the sea chest. I do not believe that Amel installed a MASS system check in your SM when new. I believe they were not installed in the SM until about 2003. Yours, if installed by Amel, is probably working unless the bulb is burned out or the toggle switch needs replacing. If yours is lighting up, look at the last photo which is a snippet from my Amel Book. This may help you. I have more.
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CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   


On Wed, Jun 8, 2022 at 8:38 AM Willem Kroes <kavanga@...> wrote:
Hi Amelians,

I have a question about this alarm on the port side of the entrance in my SM 2K. The manual is not very clear about this and also not about a sensor placed in the engine compartment. This feature is not working for years on my boat, but I am curious about for what goal it has been installed by Amel and how it works. There is also a switch to "mass +" and "mass.-". If the sensor is not working, can a replacement be bought from Amel?

Best regards,

Willem Kroes

SM2K #351 Kavanga


Re: Leaking deck hatch latch

 

Ruslan,

On page 70 of the Amel Book, you will see this:
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The embedded link in the Online Amel Book will bring you to this:


Everything you need to know is there.

Bill

CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   

On Wed, Jun 8, 2022 at 8:20 AM Ruslan Osmonov <rosmonov@...> wrote:
Hi Arno and Scott, where did you source the O-ring replacements for the lock? Thx.
--
Fair winds
Ruslan Osmonov
Phanthom, A54 #44


locked Re: Engine troubles in Sardegna

 

Also, this might be the last resort but do not rule out a machine shop fabrication of a replacement bushing or any other part. 

As your boat and installed devices get older and parts become rare, you may have to find your "favorite machine shop."

Bill


CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   


On Wed, Jun 8, 2022 at 8:50 AM James Alton via groups.io <lokiyawl2=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Kimberly,

   Back in 2016 I had a freshwater pump for the UK version of the Perkins 4.154  engine shipped to a friend in Palermo, Italy.  The pump reportably fit and the shipping while expensive was fast.  Here is the company link:  www.loaderpartssource.com.  My contact was Amanda.  If you need the part number let me know and I will locate it for you.    I have had pretty good luck with parts ordered from Parts4engines, I am surprised that you have heard that the bolt pattern for the pumps they are selling are incorrect.  Parts4Engines just shipped me a top end gasket set and processing took one day.  Shipping is fast to the US, not sure about Italy.  Best of luck. 

James Alton
SV Sueno
Maramu #220


-----Original Message-----
From: Kimberly Bunch via groups.io <kimberlybunch=yahoo.co.nz@groups.io>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Sent: Wed, Jun 8, 2022 3:51 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Mayday! Engine troubles in Sardegna

Thanks James!
We now suppose the serial number was written incorrectly or we read it wrong. And that the V is actually a U for United Kingdom 🤣

Unfortunately I think the parts 4 engines does not have the pump with the correct spacing between the bolts...we have heard good things about the company from our friends also.

Thanks for all the tips. We'll try everything we can! And we'll try to get in touch with Umberto. Hope he can help us.

Cheers,

Kimberly
SV Kujira Maramu #98
Sardegna



locked Re: Engine troubles in Sardegna

James Alton
 

Kimberly,

   Back in 2016 I had a freshwater pump for the UK version of the Perkins 4.154  engine shipped to a friend in Palermo, Italy.  The pump reportably fit and the shipping while expensive was fast.  Here is the company link:  www.loaderpartssource.com.  My contact was Amanda.  If you need the part number let me know and I will locate it for you.    I have had pretty good luck with parts ordered from Parts4engines, I am surprised that you have heard that the bolt pattern for the pumps they are selling are incorrect.  Parts4Engines just shipped me a top end gasket set and processing took one day.  Shipping is fast to the US, not sure about Italy.  Best of luck. 

James Alton
SV Sueno
Maramu #220


-----Original Message-----
From: Kimberly Bunch via groups.io <kimberlybunch@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Sent: Wed, Jun 8, 2022 3:51 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Mayday! Engine troubles in Sardegna

Thanks James!
We now suppose the serial number was written incorrectly or we read it wrong. And that the V is actually a U for United Kingdom 🤣

Unfortunately I think the parts 4 engines does not have the pump with the correct spacing between the bolts...we have heard good things about the company from our friends also.

Thanks for all the tips. We'll try everything we can! And we'll try to get in touch with Umberto. Hope he can help us.

Cheers,

Kimberly
SV Kujira Maramu #98
Sardegna



"Filtre Eau Mer Puisard: what does it mean and how it works

Willem Kroes
 

Hi Amelians,

I have a question about this alarm on the port side of the entrance in my SM 2K. The manual is not very clear about this and also not about a sensor placed in the engine compartment. This feature is not working for years on my boat, but I am curious about for what goal it has been installed by Amel and how it works. There is also a switch to "mass +" and "mass.-". If the sensor is not working, can a replacement be bought from Amel?

Best regards,

Willem Kroes

SM2K #351 Kavanga


Re: Leaking deck hatch latch

Ruslan Osmonov
 

Hi Arno and Scott, where did you source the O-ring replacements for the lock? Thx.
--
Fair winds
Ruslan Osmonov
Phanthom, A54 #44

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