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Shaft generator doesn’t load

Roland Mueller
 

Hi,

Our shaft generator was working fine, but after a total breakdown of our 24v supply (24v alternator defective and Onan generator not starting), it doesn’t load anymore.

Before the 24v breakdown, both control lamps (green and red) were off, when the shaft generator wasn’t in use. After the 24v breakdown and after recharging the batteries with shore power, the red control lamp is permanently on, even the control switch is off:
image0.jpeg

When trying to start the shaft generator (switch on, with enough speed under sails, and the prop turning backwards), normally the green control lamp should be on, but in our case the red control lamp remains continuously on, even sailing with 7 knots:
image1.jpeg

All cables at the shaft generator are well connected. It seems like the 24v breakdown changed some settings to enable the shaft generator to start loading.

Has anyone experienced this issue and knows how to solve it?

Regards,
Roland 
SM 150 Aventura 
Currently at Isola d’Elba


Re: Furler solenoid wiring from switch

Ben "Santorin LO"
 

Saga still on...
Shaken the soleniid and put back, worked for a little while and again...lioking for a new one including at amel - amel could offer only a volvo solenoid with 2 main pins (ratger then 4 as in the old one) and did not find in shops 4 pins in this shape...
anyone has an idea where to get just a similar one ? Alternativly how to use either 2 pins or double solenoud instead?
I believe double one should work but couldnt figure out the wirring


Re: Windless Rubber Caps

Kevin Schmit
 

If you need the entire switch with rubber cap, you can buy from Vetus here in USA for $43/ech.  See info and part# below:

Kevin,

 

I apologize for the delay.

 

AFSTPB is only one direction. You will need to purchase Qty 2

 

AFSTPB is in stock ETA 5-7 business days. Price is 43.84 each

 

Above I attached our Credit Card Authorization Form you may fill out and return or feel free to call me at the office to place your order.

 

Thank you.

 

Mike Haberlan, Sales & Tech Support  |  Vetus Marine

135 Imperial Street  |  Merritt Island, FL 32952

Office: 321.454.3375  |  Fax: 321.452.7966

Mike.Haberlan@... www.vetusmarine.com


--
Kevin & Kristen Schmit
KIANA
SM #362


Shaft generator doesn’t load

Roland Mueller
 

Hi,

Our shaft generator was working fine, but after a total breakdown of our 24v supply (24v alternator defective and Onan generator not starting), it doesn’t load anymore.

Before the 24v breakdown, both control lamps (green and red) were off, when the shaft generator wasn’t in use. After the 24v breakdown and after recharging the batteries with shore power, the red control lamp is permanently on, even the control switch is off:
image0.jpeg

When trying to start the shaft generator (switch on, with enough speed under sails, and the prop turning backwards), normally the green control lamp should be on, but in our case the red control lamp remains continuously on, even sailing with 7 knots:
image1.jpeg

All cables at the shaft generator are well connected. It seems like the 24v breakdown changed some settings to enable the shaft generator to start loading.

Has anyone experienced this issue and knows how to solve it?

Regards,
Roland 
SM 150 Aventura 
Currently at Isola d’Elba


Re: PredictWind Presentation - and some extra info on GRIB files

David Vogel
 

Hi there Teun,

With regards to: " Weather4D allows me to easily run and re-run various routing scenarios whilst underway, without needing to go online each time, as is the case with the PW Offshore app"

Question: > where & how does Weather4D gets it updates if the iPad is not connected to the internet or satellite?

Answer: Wx4D does not get any updated GRIBs unless connected to internet (or polling GRIBs via SailDOCs). The various routing scenarios I am referring to here are exploratory boat-scenarios.

To explain, whilst underway I download the GRIB/s once a cycle (normally daily under routine circumstances, but 12-hourly under dynamic weather conditions or when decisions need to be made). With a valid GRIB loaded, you can adjust various parameters in Wx4D, such as setting different routes, RTE start-end & intermediate waypoints, ETD, or different polars, or adjust the polar weighting; then re-run the scenario locally. Calculating each run takes about 10 seconds. You can then compare the result of each scenario-set visually on-screen. For example, what is the effect of a polar set at 85%, versus 45%, or going great-circle PresentPosition-to-Destination versus via x, y or z. You can see the estimated future position of the boat with respect to the weather systems and wind/wave fields for each of the different selected scenarios (fast, slow, left, right). This all happens locally.

Whereas with PW, the routing calculation for a single route (using different WX models) takes place online, with the results being downloaded to the Offshore app. Meaning, with PW, you need to go online to do each a new routing calculation (scenario analysis, WPT, polar setting), even within the same forecast period. And you cannot hold-over to see the results of a previous run.

Does this answer your question? Feel free to ask if any further explanation is required.

In any event, hoping to catch up if we can get back down to Hope Island marina before we wing it back to NZ. Happy to show you then.

Best,

David


From: <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Teun BAAS <teun@...>
Reply to: <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Date: Sunday, 19 June 2022 at 8:30 am
To: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] PredictWind Presentation - and some extra info on GRIB files

Morning David,

When using Weather4D on an iPad during passage (see yellow highlighted section below) where & how does Weather4D gets it updates if the iPad is not connected to the internet or satellite?

Best Regards Teun
SV AMELIT  A54  #128

HOPE ISLAND MARINA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA
June 19, 2022 08:30:18

You can follow AMELIT via this link: https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/display/AMELIT

-----Original Message-----
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Vogel via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2022 07:52
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] PredictWind Presentation - and some extra info on GRIB files

Good ZOOM hook-up - thank you Bill & Tilo for organising and moderating.

I learnt a few good things: use of high-resolution models for local forecasts; and the better speed of the PWoffshore APP because it caches data locally.

If you are like me, a little 'old school', preferring to access and study all kinds of weather information from diverse source, or for those interested in some more detail and background information about GRIB files, the attached Weather Compendium provides a general overview about how to obtain and use GRIB files, and other sources of weather data, albeit with a focus on French Polynesia.  See section 32.

As background, I have been using PredictWind on and off for 8 years - as only one of the many tools in my weather toolbox - and trialled the PW PROFESSIONAL level of subscription for our recent trip Fiji-NZ, during which we encountered some gnarly weather.  The responsiveness and level of support from the PW team is second to none.

That said, as a weather 'geek', I still prefer to run my own weather forecasting and routing tools, and my "Go To" tool is Weather4D on an iPad, which I have also been using for passage-making since 2014 without complaint.  Weather4D allows me to easily run and re-run various routing scenarios whilst underway, without needing to go online each time, as is the case with the PW Offshore app.  There are a number of other apps and PC/Mac applications that do the same thing.  But for many cruising types, increasingly PW is a fully capable and functional tool for visualising key elements of the weather forecast.

I hope the attached is of some interest.

David
SM#396, Perigee


Re: A54 backstay and staysail and genaker blocks

Teun BAAS
 

Correction below in red.

 

Best Regards Teun

SV AMELIT  A54  #128

 

HOPE ISLAND MARINA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA

June 19, 2022 10:48:41

 

You can follow AMELIT via this link: https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/display/AMELIT

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Teun BAAS via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2022 08:14
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] A54 backstay and staysail and genaker blocks

 

Hi Ruslan,

 

I have the Stay sail sheets running thru the fore & aft adjustable car on the applicable side on the foredeck; from there thru the “eye let” on the side of the hard dodger and then thru the jammer. I adjust the working Stay sail sheet, with the jammer OPEN via the small winch on the working side and then close the jammer when in position and take the sheet of the little winch. When not sailing or using the Stay sail it is hanging in a bundle from the grab rail on the dodger.

 

You must ALWAYS use the opposite (windward side) running backstay, whether using the Stay sail ONLY or in combination with the Genoa.

 

For the active backstay I use the block which you show in your second picture for the gray line. But I have that gray line running on the side of the dodger as explained above.

 

Best Regards Teun

SV AMELIT  A54  #128

 

HOPE ISLAND MARINA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA

June 19, 2022 08:14:12

 

You can follow AMELIT via this link: https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/display/AMELIT

 

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ruslan Osmonov via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2022 02:31
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] A54 backstay and staysail and genaker blocks

 

Hi,
A54 owners, can you share please the Amel intended way how to rig backstay, stay sail, and genaker blocks? 

from the user manual I found that backstay runners should be blocked to the main back stay u-bolt (photo attached). Is this what you were taught in the Amel training?

for the stay sail I found some of the pictures that show attaching a block to a Genoa block. Is this the way to go? Do you keep stay sail sheets in the jammer or take them out? The picture I’m attaching the angle suggests that the line does not run through the jammer. I assume that the grey line here is stay sail line since the grey was original color for A54 stay sail sheets.


 


and finally where do you attach a block for a genaker sheet? 

Thanks for your input. 

--
Fair winds
Ruslan Osmonov
Phanthom, A54 #44


Re: PredictWind Presentation - and some extra info on GRIB files

Teun BAAS
 

Morning David,

 

When using Weather4D on an iPad during passage (see yellow highlighted section below) where & how does Weather4D gets it updates if the iPad is not connected to the internet or satellite?

 

Best Regards Teun

SV AMELIT  A54  #128

 

HOPE ISLAND MARINA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA

June 19, 2022 08:30:18

 

You can follow AMELIT via this link: https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/display/AMELIT

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Vogel via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2022 07:52
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] PredictWind Presentation - and some extra info on GRIB files

 

Good ZOOM hook-up - thank you Bill & Tilo for organising and moderating.

 

I learnt a few good things: use of high-resolution models for local forecasts; and the better speed of the PWoffshore APP because it caches data locally.

 

If you are like me, a little 'old school', preferring to access and study all kinds of weather information from diverse source, or for those interested in some more detail and background information about GRIB files, the attached Weather Compendium provides a general overview about how to obtain and use GRIB files, and other sources of weather data, albeit with a focus on French Polynesia.  See section 32.

 

As background, I have been using PredictWind on and off for 8 years - as only one of the many tools in my weather toolbox - and trialled the PW PROFESSIONAL level of subscription for our recent trip Fiji-NZ, during which we encountered some gnarly weather.  The responsiveness and level of support from the PW team is second to none.

 

That said, as a weather 'geek', I still prefer to run my own weather forecasting and routing tools, and my "Go To" tool is Weather4D on an iPad, which I have also been using for passage-making since 2014 without complaint.  Weather4D allows me to easily run and re-run various routing scenarios whilst underway, without needing to go online each time, as is the case with the PW Offshore app.  There are a number of other apps and PC/Mac applications that do the same thing.  But for many cruising types, increasingly PW is a fully capable and functional tool for visualising key elements of the weather forecast.

 

I hope the attached is of some interest.

 

David

SM#396, Perigee

 

 

 

 

 


Re: A54 backstay and staysail and genaker blocks

Teun BAAS
 

Hi Ruslan,

 

I have the Stay sail sheets running thru the fore & aft adjustable car on the applicable side on the foredeck; from there thru the “eye let” on the side of the hard dodger and then thru the jammer. I adjust the working Stay sail sheet, with the jammer OPEN via the small winch on the working side and then close the jammer when in position and take the sheet of the little winch. When not sailing or using the Stay sail it is hanging in a bundle from the grab rail on the dodger.

 

You must ALWAYS use the opposite (lee side) running backstay, whether only using the Stay sail ONLY or in combination with the Genoa.

 

For the active backstay I use the block which you show in your second picture for the gray line. But I have that gray line running on the side of the dodger as explained above.

 

Best Regards Teun

SV AMELIT  A54  #128

 

HOPE ISLAND MARINA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA

June 19, 2022 08:14:12

 

You can follow AMELIT via this link: https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/display/AMELIT

 

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ruslan Osmonov via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2022 02:31
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] A54 backstay and staysail and genaker blocks

 

Hi,
A54 owners, can you share please the Amel intended way how to rig backstay, stay sail, and genaker blocks? 

from the user manual I found that backstay runners should be blocked to the main back stay u-bolt (photo attached). Is this what you were taught in the Amel training?

for the stay sail I found some of the pictures that show attaching a block to a Genoa block. Is this the way to go? Do you keep stay sail sheets in the jammer or take them out? The picture I’m attaching the angle suggests that the line does not run through the jammer. I assume that the grey line here is stay sail line since the grey was original color for A54 stay sail sheets.


 


and finally where do you attach a block for a genaker sheet? 

Thanks for your input. 

--
Fair winds
Ruslan Osmonov
Phanthom, A54 #44


Re: Windless Rubber Caps

Mark Erdos
 


 

Just the caps or the whole switch? I am looking for replacement caps.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us


On 6/18/2022 11:05 AM, Alan Leslie wrote:

Hi Mark,
I bought them from Jaycar in Australia...actually in the shop, not online.
Cheers
Alan


Re: PredictWind Presentation - and some extra info on GRIB files

David Vogel
 

Good ZOOM hook-up - thank you Bill & Tilo for organising and moderating.

I learnt a few good things: use of high-resolution models for local forecasts; and the better speed of the PWoffshore APP because it caches data locally.

If you are like me, a little 'old school', preferring to access and study all kinds of weather information from diverse source, or for those interested in some more detail and background information about GRIB files, the attached Weather Compendium provides a general overview about how to obtain and use GRIB files, and other sources of weather data, albeit with a focus on French Polynesia. See section 32.

As background, I have been using PredictWind on and off for 8 years - as only one of the many tools in my weather toolbox - and trialled the PW PROFESSIONAL level of subscription for our recent trip Fiji-NZ, during which we encountered some gnarly weather. The responsiveness and level of support from the PW team is second to none.

That said, as a weather 'geek', I still prefer to run my own weather forecasting and routing tools, and my "Go To" tool is Weather4D on an iPad, which I have also been using for passage-making since 2014 without complaint. Weather4D allows me to easily run and re-run various routing scenarios whilst underway, without needing to go online each time, as is the case with the PW Offshore app. There are a number of other apps and PC/Mac applications that do the same thing. But for many cruising types, increasingly PW is a fully capable and functional tool for visualising key elements of the weather forecast.

I hope the attached is of some interest.

David
SM#396, Perigee


Re: Windless Rubber Caps

Alan Leslie
 

Hi Mark,
I bought them from Jaycar in Australia...actually in the shop, not online.
Cheers
Alan


Event: PredictWind Presentation by Keyrn McMaster, Ocean Racer and Executive with PredictWind - 06/18/2022 #cal-reminder

Group Notification <noreply@...>
 

Reminder: PredictWind Presentation by Keyrn McMaster, Ocean Racer and Executive with PredictWind

When:
06/18/2022
20:00 to 21:00
(UTC+00:00) UTC

Where:
Group Zoom Meeting

Organizer: Bill Rouse brouse@... +18323804970

An RSVP is requested. Click here to RSVP

Description:
PredictWind provides the top-ranked forecast models globally. These leading models are only available through PredictWind, giving unparalleled weather data. Keryn McMaster, ocean racer and Sales Manager for Predict Wind will present Predict Wind and its benefits to Amel Owners. More information on Keryn McMaster: https://www.yachtingnz.org.nz/news/sailors-corner-keryn-mcmaster Video by Keryn PredictWind & IridiumGo: https://youtu.be/v9sCMKxdFa0  I like this website for determining times around the world: https://www.worldtimebuddy.com/ Our meeting is Saturday 18 June at 2000 UTC

Join Zoom Meeting
https://epfl.zoom.us/j/62737005442
Meeting ID: 627 3700 5442


YouTube Live: 


Re: Windless Rubber Caps

Mark McGovern SV Cara
 

Mike,

Fantastic! For the life of me I cannot find these switches or anything like it in the USA.  However, I found what appears to be that exact switch sold by Jaycar on AliExpress for US$2.19 each.  I ordered six (6) and with shipping the whole thing cost me a whopping US$27.38.  When they arrive I will see if the rubber cap fits or not.  If it does, I'll report back and will include the link from AliExpress.


Re: Windless Rubber Caps

Mike Longcor (SV Trilogy)
 

Hi Mark,

I bought them in person so I don't have a link, but those look exactly right. I think the profile is slightly taller than the originals (just a couple mm). This doesn't really matter as you can still push the switch and they seal and keep the water out. If I find one still in the package - onboard or in the store - I will confirm.

Cheers,
Mike Longcor
SV Trilogy SM23
NZ


On Fri, Jun 17, 2022, 10:28 PM Mark McGovern <mfmcgovern@...> wrote:
Mike,

Is this the switch w/rubber cover that you purchased from Jaycar NZ that worked?: 

Link: Switch





--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Annapolis, MD USA


A54 backstay and staysail and genaker blocks

Ruslan Osmonov
 

Hi,
A54 owners, can you share please the Amel intended way how to rig backstay, stay sail, and genaker blocks? 

from the user manual I found that backstay runners should be blocked to the main back stay u-bolt (photo attached). Is this what you were taught in the Amel training?

for the stay sail I found some of the pictures that show attaching a block to a Genoa block. Is this the way to go? Do you keep stay sail sheets in the jammer or take them out? The picture I’m attaching the angle suggests that the line does not run through the jammer. I assume that the grey line here is stay sail line since the grey was original color for A54 stay sail sheets.


 


and finally where do you attach a block for a genaker sheet? 

Thanks for your input. 

--
Fair winds
Ruslan Osmonov
Phanthom, A54 #44


Re: Windless Rubber Caps

Mark Erdos
 

 


Alan,

Please share a link for a site from which you have purchased the caps. Thanks.

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us


On 6/17/2022 10:31 PM, Alan Leslie wrote:

Hi Mark,
I used those as well...they are available from lots of places -Google is your friend.
As far as i can tell there's nothing particularly special about the switches Amel used on the Lofrans windlass.
AND, I have recently installed a Lofrans hand-held remote control in the port side locker.
It has a curly cord that allows you to operate the windlass closer to the bow rather than having to do acrobatics with your right toe while leaning forward !
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Help wanted for Sharki propeller shaft

Gerhard Mueller
 

Please see
https://amelyachtowners.groups.io/g/SharkiMaramuMango/topic/advise_for_broken_propeller/91839282?p=,,,20,0,0,0::recentpostdate/sticky,,,20,2,0,91839282,previd%3D1655554862542162790,nextid%3D1650194032393324760&previd=1655554862542162790&nextid=1650194032393324760
--
Gerhard Mueller
Amel Sharki #60
Currently North Sea, Germany


Re: Windless Rubber Caps

Alan Leslie
 

Hi Mark,
I used those as well...they are available from lots of places -Google is your friend.
As far as i can tell there's nothing particularly special about the switches Amel used on the Lofrans windlass.
AND, I have recently installed a Lofrans hand-held remote control in the port side locker.
It has a curly cord that allows you to operate the windlass closer to the bow rather than having to do acrobatics with your right toe while leaning forward !
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: banging cables in the mizzen

Eloi Bamberg
 

Thank you Marc,
When I pulled my mast down last year there where no lines left in the channels and I forgot to put a mouse-line in the front one :-(
I think I have to find some closed cell foam in Greece or Turkey and get up the Mast.

Eloi


Re: Event: PredictWind Presentation by Keyrn McMaster, Ocean Racer and Executive with PredictWind - Saturday, June 18, 2022 #cal-invite

Tilo & Jeannette Peters
 

Thanks JB for putting up those questions. I’ll make sure to ask Keryn about those things.

Fair winds!

Tilo

On 17 Jun 2022, at 23:03, Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:


Tilo, See JB's questions below.

JB, We will try to get answers. When you have time, you can watch the recorded meeting via YouTube 

https://youtu.be/ZbDYjps-K3g


CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   

On Fri, Jun 17, 2022 at 3:01 PM JB Duler <jbduler@...> wrote:
Hello,

I won’t be able to attend (sailing right now) but I have few questions

Their product is painfully slow even with average wifi or cell phone, hence the massive Iridium bills.

What can they do to improve downloads? Upgrade their AWS plan?
Avoid fancy graphics and colors?
Avoid Google earth when you search a new forecast point?

Their software crashes too often, do you they have any plans for improvements?

Thanks you,

JB Duler

On Jun 10, 2022, at 16:32, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

All,

I really hope that you attend this zoom meeting!

If you do not know who Keryn McMaster is, you might be interested in these:
About Keryn: https://www.yachtingnz.org.nz/news/sailors-corner-keryn-mcmaster
Video by Keryn PredictWind & IridiumGo: https://youtu.be/v9sCMKxdFa0    
--
 
Best,
 
CW Bill Rouse
Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970


--
John Bernard "JB" Duler
San Francisco
Meltem # 19, Western Med

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