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Re: Raymarine SeaTalk to SeaTalkng systems integration

 

Which one did you install?

Ordering information
(Part number/s)

The NGW-1 is available to purchase in a variety of options:

NGW-1-ISO is the standard option. With an opto-isolated input and ISO-Drive output for direct NMEA 0183 device bi-directional connection.

NGW-1-ISO-AIS is the NMEA 0183 AIS option that enables the conversion of NMEA 0183 AIS data to its equivalent in NMEA 2000. This provides an ‘out of the box’ solution for quick installation with no configuration required.

NGW-1-USB is the NMEA 0183 USB (1.1 and 2.0) interface for bi-directional connection to a PC for use with NMEA 0183 software.

 



CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   

On Thu, Jun 23, 2022 at 11:35 AM Tony Elliott <tonye@...> wrote:
Hi all,

I thought I would post an article on my recent work to integrate a fairly newly installed Raymarine Axion chart plotter, i70s MFD and ITC-5 transducer module with an original Raymarine S3G Course Computer on my SM.

The original nav equipment was removed from the SM after the supposed strike to the boat but the original autopilot system has been working since that event. When I acquired the boat, the Axiom/i70s/ITC-5 system on the SeaTalkng bus was completely separate from the Autopilot system. They were not conversing at all. The ST7001 simply responded with NO DATA with every attempt to link plotter with autopilot.

With the aid of the Raymarine tech support team, I implemented a NMEA2000 <-> NMEA0183 converter technology into the system using initially, the Raymarine E22158 SeaTalk to SeaTalkng converter and then later with the ActiSense NGW-1-STNG converter. This offering is different from the E22158 which apparently comes with some deficiencies that the NGW-1 does not have. Specifically, the E22158 does not pass Magnetic Variation data. The ActiSense also connects to the S3G course computer via one of the two NMEA ports vs the SeaTalk ports where the E22158 would connect. Other than the manual from the ActiSense vendor showing a backwards wiring configuration (NMEA inputs and outputs are reversed), the converter works wonderfully and we now have full communications between the systems with XTE, DTW and BTW data being presented to the ST7001 autopilot head for course updates to waypoints. 

I've added a diagram of the system as I currently have it and have, since the addition of the ActiSense converter, added a couple i50's, an i60 and a second i70s. I can now see just about any data source I want on the two i70s including AIS, engine and genset data without cluttering the chart plotter screens and can also have this data displayed anywhere on the boat using Raymarine apps that link an iPad to the MFD's.

The primary driver for my writing this was that it took me several tries to get the ActiSense unit to function on the NMEA bus because the manual showed the wires reversed from that which actually works - if it weren't for the advise of a Raymarine tech to reverse the wires, I would still be scratching my head as to why this system was not working! Not all manuals are as they should be!!!

Tony
SM#443-GRAND CRU


Raymarine SeaTalk to SeaTalkng systems integration

Tony Elliott
 

Hi all,

I thought I would post an article on my recent work to integrate a fairly newly installed Raymarine Axion chart plotter, i70s MFD and ITC-5 transducer module with an original Raymarine S3G Course Computer on my SM.

The original nav equipment was removed from the SM after the supposed strike to the boat but the original autopilot system has been working since that event. When I acquired the boat, the Axiom/i70s/ITC-5 system on the SeaTalkng bus was completely separate from the Autopilot system. They were not conversing at all. The ST7001 simply responded with NO DATA with every attempt to link plotter with autopilot.

With the aid of the Raymarine tech support team, I implemented a NMEA2000 <-> NMEA0183 converter technology into the system using initially, the Raymarine E22158 SeaTalk to SeaTalkng converter and then later with the ActiSense NGW-1-STNG converter. This offering is different from the E22158 which apparently comes with some deficiencies that the NGW-1 does not have. Specifically, the E22158 does not pass Magnetic Variation data. The ActiSense also connects to the S3G course computer via one of the two NMEA ports vs the SeaTalk ports where the E22158 would connect. Other than the manual from the ActiSense vendor showing a backwards wiring configuration (NMEA inputs and outputs are reversed), the converter works wonderfully and we now have full communications between the systems with XTE, DTW and BTW data being presented to the ST7001 autopilot head for course updates to waypoints. 

I've added a diagram of the system as I currently have it and have, since the addition of the ActiSense converter, added a couple i50's, an i60 and a second i70s. I can now see just about any data source I want on the two i70s including AIS, engine and genset data without cluttering the chart plotter screens and can also have this data displayed anywhere on the boat using Raymarine apps that link an iPad to the MFD's.

The primary driver for my writing this was that it took me several tries to get the ActiSense unit to function on the NMEA bus because the manual showed the wires reversed from that which actually works - if it weren't for the advise of a Raymarine tech to reverse the wires, I would still be scratching my head as to why this system was not working! Not all manuals are as they should be!!!

Tony
SM#443-GRAND CRU


Re: Start of fire from old Grundig TV in saloon

 

Steve,

I believe that all of us are thankful that you caught this early.

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I want to use this opportunity to tell all owners with this Optional TV Package that I have seen far too many owners wire things to the original installation. The original installation on many Amels prior to the 54 was a source for 230v Inverter power, 24v power, and 12v power. And this is further complicated by the fact that almost all SM owners are at the least the 2nd owner. Regrettably, the wiring changes made by the previous owner(s) are almost never passed on to future owners and few current owners have any idea how it was originally wired. This situation is very common with the Optional TV Package and with the various 24-12v converters at the Nav Station.

Bill

CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   

On Thu, Jun 23, 2022 at 10:21 AM Stephen Nicholson <stevenich@...> wrote:
Hello Amelians,
Feels like we nearly lost our SM to a fire yesterday, due to a short circuit in an old style Grundig TV which was in a starboard compartment in the saloon. This TV, which probably is the same age as the boat, 92-93, was plugged into the mains and left on standby. We are on shorepower in a marina, at present. The story as follows:  been out for the evening and returned at 9pm. Noticed a smell of burning when opening the main hatch, and when inside the saloon there was a definite ‘fog’. Switched off all the buttons on the Mains control panel, grabbed a fire extinguisher and started to look for a culprit. Heard a crackling noise behind the leather cover which conceals the TV, pulled the cover back to be confronted by lots of billowing smoke (presumably due to more oxygen) but no flames, fortunately. I didn’t fancy using the fire extinguisher, which was a messy Dry Powder type, and i hoped that by cutting the power supply that that would be enough for everything to settle down, which it gradually did.
It seems that we were Extremely Lucky that we returned when we did and were able to deal with it. We may not have been so fortunate had we returned a hour later to a full blown fire.
My lessons learnt are as follows:-
1. Don’t ever leave any equipment on standby, especially if it is elderly.
2. Install smoke detectors, possibly 2. This scenario could easily have occurred at night!
I would be grateful for any further thoughts.
Steve & Gill Nicholson 
SM89 Antigua II


Re: 𝗡𝗢𝗪 𝗛𝗘𝗔𝗥 𝗧𝗛𝗜𝗦

Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond
 

Awesome Bill we are current clients of PW so are really -leased to hear about the discount.

Cheers
Ross snd Donna
SV INTREPID KIWI
SM2K #356
Currently in Montenegro


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On Thursday, June 23, 2022, 5:32 PM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

I have negotiated a significant discount for Amel owners who are current PredictWind clients and those that want to be a client of PredictWind. I will post the details to the group within a few days.

If you missed the PredictWind ZOOM Presentation to the group, you can view it here:

YouTube: 

CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   

--
Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond
SV Intrepid Kiwi
SM2K #356
Currently in Turkey


𝗡𝗢𝗪 𝗛𝗘𝗔𝗥 𝗧𝗛𝗜𝗦

 

I have negotiated a significant discount for Amel owners who are current PredictWind clients and those that want to be a client of PredictWind. I will post the details to the group within a few days.

If you missed the PredictWind ZOOM Presentation to the group, you can view it here:

YouTube: 

CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   


Start of fire from old Grundig TV in saloon

Stephen Nicholson
 

Hello Amelians,
Feels like we nearly lost our SM to a fire yesterday, due to a short circuit in an old style Grundig TV which was in a starboard compartment in the saloon. This TV, which probably is the same age as the boat, 92-93, was plugged into the mains and left on standby. We are on shorepower in a marina, at present. The story as follows:  been out for the evening and returned at 9pm. Noticed a smell of burning when opening the main hatch, and when inside the saloon there was a definite ‘fog’. Switched off all the buttons on the Mains control panel, grabbed a fire extinguisher and started to look for a culprit. Heard a crackling noise behind the leather cover which conceals the TV, pulled the cover back to be confronted by lots of billowing smoke (presumably due to more oxygen) but no flames, fortunately. I didn’t fancy using the fire extinguisher, which was a messy Dry Powder type, and i hoped that by cutting the power supply that that would be enough for everything to settle down, which it gradually did.
It seems that we were Extremely Lucky that we returned when we did and were able to deal with it. We may not have been so fortunate had we returned a hour later to a full blown fire.
My lessons learnt are as follows:-
1. Don’t ever leave any equipment on standby, especially if it is elderly.
2. Install smoke detectors, possibly 2. This scenario could easily have occurred at night!
I would be grateful for any further thoughts.
Steve & Gill Nicholson 
SM89 Antigua II


Re: TV lift quitted working

Roque
 

Hi Martin

It is a Linak Lifting Column (High-speed lifting columns for height-adjustable desks (linak.com)). Maybe they can help you out.

On A54 #117 it is model DL4(DL4001B00675560) that probably was discontinued. Perhaps replaced by the one attached

Usually, the problem is what they call the "control box". A new one will have to be set up to work with the old lifting model. It costs around 400 Euros.

Roque

Attika A54 117
Paraty -Brazil
.

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Roque
Attika A54 117
Paraty - Brazil 


Re: TV lift quitted working

Doug Smith
 

There is a fuse inside the control box. You remove the cover and it is right there. If the fuse is good, then you should see the internal relays making contact when you push the buttons up or down. If those are actuating then, it is the actual lifting mechanism. I had some gear internal to the lift actuator that broke and had to replace that lifter. Found it on eBay for $80. 

Thanks, Doug Smith

Amel 54-113, Aventura
Hilton Head SC
Dugsmith98@...

On Jun 23, 2022, at 7:03 AM, luvkante via groups.io <luvkante@...> wrote:



Dear Amelians,

my TV lift in the salon quitted working. No reaction on the up/down button. 
Any experiences with this problem like corrosions, fuses, motors? Any hints what to check?

Best,

Martin

AMEL54 #149 „CHIARA“ 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bilge maintenance

 

I am going to go into detail in this response because I believe there are some things that everyone needs to hear regarding your modification.  I intend no offense to anyone. I certainly do not mean to "preach from above!"

All of the following is based on 40,000 miles and 11 years full-time on a SM. It reflects my opinions based on my experience for those 11 years coupled with my experience with over 300 Amel owners with over 300 Amels.

First, the easy one: Based on your hull number, you have a 4JH3 Yanmar engine. The weakest point of failure on that engine is the wet exhaust elbow. You should order an HDI cast stainless steel elbow. It costs less and will last longer than your engine. You said you repaired the Yanmar. In my experience, TIG welding is a short-term fix. Replace it.
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Second, your plumbing modification: 
I believe that it was the first two items that solved your problem. 
* use a coarse strainer in all showers and sinks to catch the solids 
* use paper towels to remove ALL grease and oil before washing the dishes and pans
What you installed is referred to as an Odor Trap or P-Trap on this side of the Atlantic. It is always installed with a vent to the roof in buildings.  It will block odor from the engine room in calm conditions, but will not block odor in conditions with the boat moving. What you installed will very likely trap water in the shower drain line between the shower and the gray water sump. It isn't necessarily an issue if you use it daily, but will become an issue if you do not. The soap in the water will sour and the water will become stagnant smelling worse than before, venting that odor back to the shower and sink. Also, if your boat is in a freezing climate, this will be one more thing to winterize. In addition to all of that, soapy shower water that lays still will create a slimy stinky scum that will be a challenge to clean inside your new plumbing. I always say that Henri Amel made his boats in such a way that he protected the owners from many failures. I think that you added a failure point and you should monitor this closely. Also, if you leave this in place, BE SURE to disclose this when selling your boat because I see too many owners new to Amel trust Henri's design only to find out later that it was modified by a well-intentioned previous owner.

Third: I trust that you have a Carbon Monoxide Detector on your boat along with a smoke detector. If not, you should install one.


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CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   

On Thu, Jun 23, 2022 at 5:03 AM Stefan Jeukendrup <sjeukendrup@...> wrote:
Even a bilge cleanup every 2 months could not avoid periodic bilge/oil/diesel smell, mainly in the aft cabin.
But no longer.,...free of it for the past 2 years and the bilge cleaning regime is back to 1 year.

These 4 changes together helped:
* use a coarse strainer in all showers and sinks to catch the solids 
* use paper towels to remove ALL grease and oil before washing the dishes and pans
* repair of a pinhole in the wet exhaust of the engine
* mounting a siphon in series with the white hose from the aft shower drain to the bilge, see picture



For me the last point is a safety issue too: a water filled siphon stops any engine room fumes from reaching the aft cabin.
(e.g. broken engine room extractor fans, leak in the exhaust system)

But as always, we have to be very carefull with non factory modifications.....looking forward to any comments you may have.


Stefan Jeukendrup
sv Malaka Queen
SM2K #348 @Newry, Northern Ireland


Re: TV lift quitted working

 

I assume this option was installed by Amel. 

Yes, check all of those as well as the remote batteries.

Also, the salon TV actuator has a small metal control box containing four fuses. In the salon, this is located behind the seating and visible after removing a wood panel. 

I do not know where this is located in the aft berth. Find it and check the fuses.


Bill


CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   

On Thu, Jun 23, 2022 at 6:04 AM luvkante via groups.io <luvkante=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Dear Amelians,

my TV lift in the salon quitted working. No reaction on the up/down button. 
Any experiences with this problem like corrosions, fuses, motors? Any hints what to check?

Best,

Martin

AMEL54 #149 „CHIARA“ 


Re: An Introduction

Kimberly Bunch
 

We look forward to meeting you on the ARC too Tony and Lel.a lagoon must be very comfortable 👍
Kimberly SV Kujira Maramu #98


TV lift quitted working

luvkante
 

Dear Amelians,

my TV lift in the salon quitted working. No reaction on the up/down button. 
Any experiences with this problem like corrosions, fuses, motors? Any hints what to check?

Best,

Martin

AMEL54 #149 „CHIARA“ 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bilge maintenance

Stefan Jeukendrup
 

Even a bilge cleanup every 2 months could not avoid periodic bilge/oil/diesel smell, mainly in the aft cabin.
But no longer.,...free of it for the past 2 years and the bilge cleaning regime is back to 1 year.

These 4 changes together helped:
* use a coarse strainer in all showers and sinks to catch the solids 
* use paper towels to remove ALL grease and oil before washing the dishes and pans
* repair of a pinhole in the wet exhaust of the engine
* mounting a siphon in series with the white hose from the aft shower drain to the bilge, see picture



For me the last point is a safety issue too: a water filled siphon stops any engine room fumes from reaching the aft cabin.
(e.g. broken engine room extractor fans, leak in the exhaust system)

But as always, we have to be very carefull with non factory modifications.....looking forward to any comments you may have.


Stefan Jeukendrup
sv Malaka Queen
SM2K #348 @Newry, Northern Ireland


Anchor wash pump

Roland Mueller
 

Hi,

We have to replace our anchor wash pump. Unfortunately, there is no specification readable anymore.
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Does anyone know the specifications of the anchor wash pump?

Regards,
Roland 
SM 150 Aventura 
Genua, Italy 


Re: drop LiFePo4 batteries vs LiFePo4 cells in a bundled pack #solution

Darren Moore
 

Thanks Matt,

We are very interested in how you go and also what you ended up installing, we are shortly installing into a Victron Lithium battery system with the Lynx BMS controlling the charge and discharge devices

I'm still undecided on whether we will go with ElectroMaax alternator or Balmar with a wakespeed controller, the ElectroMaax alternator, remote rectifier and controller seem to be leaps ahead of the Balmar gear, so your opinion will be valuable
 
Kind Regards
--
Darren
SM171
LaGecko
Tasmania, Australia


Re: Ballooner Halyard Business End specs

Tony Elliott
 

Thank you gentlemen.

Tony


Re: Whangerei, New Zealand recommendations?

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Ross, yes the Opua Cruising club meals are still going strong. The quality of the offering is really good now, a real step up in the last 2 years even though the people doing it  are the same. I would say their standard has lifted from cook to chef.
Kind Regards
Danny
SM 299 
Ocean Pearl

On 23/06/2022 08:56 Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond via groups.io <southernadventurer@...> wrote:


Thanks Danny, it has been a few years since I was last in Opua. Pleased to hear they upgraded the haulout area. I knew it was in the plan. Love those meals and social evenings at the yacht club. 

Regards
Ross


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On Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 9:08 PM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:

Hi Ross, just one update to your information they sealed the Opua boat yard this year and a couple of years ago completed a huge expansion to the marina. They also have an extensive area of what are designated work berths, obviously to get work done on your boat, 45 NZ$  per night for the SM. Toilets and showers are first class and there is a big upstairs lounge for liveaboards to use. 
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl
On 22/06/2022 22:39 Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond via groups.io <southernadventurer@...> wrote:


Hi Scott,
You are definitely spoilt for choices in New Zealand. Spent 15 years living aboard our previous yacht in three different marinas in Auckland- (city of sails) I was also in charge of four Sail Training Craft (STC) that were maintained to a very high standard using numerous boatyards and services. Ovlov did engine rebuilds and eventually replaced all the (STC) Volvo engines in theses boats over the years. My choice would be Orams in downtown Auckland for haulout and projects. This yard does not have any shower facilities so it is not set up for live aboard. It is not the cheapest but it has all the services right there including every Marina shop you ask for. Can’t beat the location as you are in downtown Auckland and have three of New Zealand’s largest chandleries within 400m.  Like the Bay of Islands - Auckland’s Hauraki Gulf has a fabulous cruising ground.

Gulf Harbour is another good location in terms of marine services and haulout facilities. Marina costs are expensive but it has good liveaboard (showers, laundry restaurant etc) facilities

Norsand is also very good and widely used by visiting boats from overseas. I was once there when there were four other Amels hauled out. This is a good choice for live aboard on the hard. Opua has good marine services and fantastic boat club and a couple of very good chandleries, but is limited in supermarkets and you will need to go the Paihia for greater selection. My experience being hauled out there was that the yard is not sealed and once when we hauled out there the hydraulic lift burst a hose and sprayed oil all over our teak decks and mainsail.

My choices in terms of cost and live aboard would be:
1. Norsand
2. Opua


My choices in terms of location and availability of services:
1. Orams, Auckland
2. Gulf Harbour, Auckland
3. Opua

There are many other options. You need to way up what are all your needs. You will love your time in New Zealand for many reasons. Sailing, maintenance and scenery. Make sure you get the South Island.

Ross snd Donna
SV INTREPID KIWI
SM2K #356
Currently cruising Montenegro



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On Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 11:34 AM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:

Hi all, I am a local being based an 8 hour sail North of Opua. For convenience I get most of my work done there and there are good tradesmen there. However there is more competition in Whangarei and surprisingly I have had good work done at a good price in central Auckland near the big Westhaven Marina. Ovlov marine beat the competition by some thousands when I replaced the motor. Again, there is competition there.
Like wise I have high regard for the Bridge Marina and hardstand in Tauranga. Bruce Goodchap the manager of the hardstand is the nicest and most honest guy you could find anywhere. Very helpful too. So guys, you have choices.
Regards
Danny 
SM 299 Ocean Pearl
On 22/06/2022 18:55 Scott SV Tengah <scott.nguyen@...> wrote:


Ah ok so my understanding was that Whangarei was cheaper and had more/better contractors compared to Opua.

Is that not the case?

We plan to leave the boat for a few months and travel by RV so we don't care that much where the boat is.

On Tue, Jun 21, 2022, 19:40 Bruno COTTE <cotte.bruno@...> wrote:
For me the best and cheapest place for all these jobs is OPUA 
Nice marina and great facilities and experienced people 


Envoyé de mon iPhone

Le 22 juin 2022 à 08:31, heinz@... a écrit :

I like Riverside Drive Marina Wangarei. Very nice and friendly Marina.  No Problem with your electricity like other marinas where you are not allowed to use the electricity before you not have a certificate elektrishen that contols your yacht. Nice town and a cool barbecue area in the Marina. 
Heinz sy Quetzal. 292

Am 22.06.2022 12:43 schrieb Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...>:
Hi all,

We're headed to New Zealand this Austral Summer and have a load of projects to get done. I know some of you are from NZ and many of you have been there, so I'm hoping to get some recommendations for the following projects:

1) Strip hull to gelcoat and repaint. It seems that in NZ, soda blasting is less common than sand blasting. I'd also like to get the cast iron ballast stripped and recoated. We also want to raise the waterline.

2) Building a hard top for our A54
After this thread, I'm seriously contemplating having a hard top added. The current favored design is something similar to Soleil Bleu
https://amelyachtowners.groups.io/g/main/topic/hardtop_for_amel_54/75406304?p=Created%2C%2C%2C20%2C1%2C0%2C0&jump=1

3) Replace motor mounts. Two bolts have broken on our motor mounts so the motor will need to be lifted and the remaining studs drilled out.

4) Acrylic window replacement

5) Solar electrical. We want to add more rigid solar on top of the new hard top. 

Currently, we have an appointment for haul out at Norsand boatyard and they're mostly an "open boatyard" except for boatbuilding and painting. For projects requiring those tradesmen, we will need to use Norsand. If Norsand is not a good choice, I'm happy to switch boatyards.

Thanks in advance!
--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah, currently Tahiti, preparing for passage to Fiji
http://www.svtengah.com


--
Sv Quetzal, Supermaramu 2000, 292, cheers Heinz




--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


--
Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond
SV Intrepid Kiwi
SM2K #356
Currently in Turkey


--
Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond
SV Intrepid Kiwi
SM2K #356
Currently in Turkey


Re: Whangerei, New Zealand recommendations?

Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond
 

Sealed means they have upgraded the haulout ground from gravel to either concrete or tar seal. I have not heard of many yards in NZ that will not allow you to work on your own boat. Many marinas do require contractors to be registered with local marinas for a number of reasons including health and safety.

Regards

On Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 11:02 PM, Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...> wrote:

What exactly does sealed mean?

Does that mean that they do not allow outside contractors? I have heard some of them don't even allow you to work on your own boat!

On Wed, Jun 22, 2022, 09:07 Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:
Hi Ross, just one update to your information they sealed the Opua boat yard this year and a couple of years ago completed a huge expansion to the marina. They also have an extensive area of what are designated work berths, obviously to get work done on your boat, 45 NZ$  per night for the SM. Toilets and showers are first class and there is a big upstairs lounge for liveaboards to use. 
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl
On 22/06/2022 22:39 Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond via groups.io <southernadventurer=yahoo.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:


Hi Scott,
You are definitely spoilt for choices in New Zealand. Spent 15 years living aboard our previous yacht in three different marinas in Auckland- (city of sails) I was also in charge of four Sail Training Craft (STC) that were maintained to a very high standard using numerous boatyards and services. Ovlov did engine rebuilds and eventually replaced all the (STC) Volvo engines in theses boats over the years. My choice would be Orams in downtown Auckland for haulout and projects. This yard does not have any shower facilities so it is not set up for live aboard. It is not the cheapest but it has all the services right there including every Marina shop you ask for. Can’t beat the location as you are in downtown Auckland and have three of New Zealand’s largest chandleries within 400m.  Like the Bay of Islands - Auckland’s Hauraki Gulf has a fabulous cruising ground.

Gulf Harbour is another good location in terms of marine services and haulout facilities. Marina costs are expensive but it has good liveaboard (showers, laundry restaurant etc) facilities

Norsand is also very good and widely used by visiting boats from overseas. I was once there when there were four other Amels hauled out. This is a good choice for live aboard on the hard. Opua has good marine services and fantastic boat club and a couple of very good chandleries, but is limited in supermarkets and you will need to go the Paihia for greater selection. My experience being hauled out there was that the yard is not sealed and once when we hauled out there the hydraulic lift burst a hose and sprayed oil all over our teak decks and mainsail.

My choices in terms of cost and live aboard would be:
1. Norsand
2. Opua


My choices in terms of location and availability of services:
1. Orams, Auckland
2. Gulf Harbour, Auckland
3. Opua

There are many other options. You need to way up what are all your needs. You will love your time in New Zealand for many reasons. Sailing, maintenance and scenery. Make sure you get the South Island.

Ross snd Donna
SV INTREPID KIWI
SM2K #356
Currently cruising Montenegro



Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad

On Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 11:34 AM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:

Hi all, I am a local being based an 8 hour sail North of Opua. For convenience I get most of my work done there and there are good tradesmen there. However there is more competition in Whangarei and surprisingly I have had good work done at a good price in central Auckland near the big Westhaven Marina. Ovlov marine beat the competition by some thousands when I replaced the motor. Again, there is competition there.
Like wise I have high regard for the Bridge Marina and hardstand in Tauranga. Bruce Goodchap the manager of the hardstand is the nicest and most honest guy you could find anywhere. Very helpful too. So guys, you have choices.
Regards
Danny 
SM 299 Ocean Pearl
On 22/06/2022 18:55 Scott SV Tengah <scott.nguyen@...> wrote:


Ah ok so my understanding was that Whangarei was cheaper and had more/better contractors compared to Opua.

Is that not the case?

We plan to leave the boat for a few months and travel by RV so we don't care that much where the boat is.

On Tue, Jun 21, 2022, 19:40 Bruno COTTE <cotte.bruno@...> wrote:
For me the best and cheapest place for all these jobs is OPUA 
Nice marina and great facilities and experienced people 


Envoyé de mon iPhone

Le 22 juin 2022 à 08:31, heinz@... a écrit :

I like Riverside Drive Marina Wangarei. Very nice and friendly Marina.  No Problem with your electricity like other marinas where you are not allowed to use the electricity before you not have a certificate elektrishen that contols your yacht. Nice town and a cool barbecue area in the Marina. 
Heinz sy Quetzal. 292

Am 22.06.2022 12:43 schrieb Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...>:
Hi all,

We're headed to New Zealand this Austral Summer and have a load of projects to get done. I know some of you are from NZ and many of you have been there, so I'm hoping to get some recommendations for the following projects:

1) Strip hull to gelcoat and repaint. It seems that in NZ, soda blasting is less common than sand blasting. I'd also like to get the cast iron ballast stripped and recoated. We also want to raise the waterline.

2) Building a hard top for our A54
After this thread, I'm seriously contemplating having a hard top added. The current favored design is something similar to Soleil Bleu
https://amelyachtowners.groups.io/g/main/topic/hardtop_for_amel_54/75406304?p=Created%2C%2C%2C20%2C1%2C0%2C0&jump=1

3) Replace motor mounts. Two bolts have broken on our motor mounts so the motor will need to be lifted and the remaining studs drilled out.

4) Acrylic window replacement

5) Solar electrical. We want to add more rigid solar on top of the new hard top. 

Currently, we have an appointment for haul out at Norsand boatyard and they're mostly an "open boatyard" except for boatbuilding and painting. For projects requiring those tradesmen, we will need to use Norsand. If Norsand is not a good choice, I'm happy to switch boatyards.

Thanks in advance!
--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah, currently Tahiti, preparing for passage to Fiji
http://www.svtengah.com


--
Sv Quetzal, Supermaramu 2000, 292, cheers Heinz




--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


--
Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond
SV Intrepid Kiwi
SM2K #356
Currently in Turkey

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com

--
Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond
SV Intrepid Kiwi
SM2K #356
Currently in Turkey


Re: Whangerei, New Zealand recommendations?

Scott SV Tengah
 

What exactly does sealed mean?

Does that mean that they do not allow outside contractors? I have heard some of them don't even allow you to work on your own boat!

On Wed, Jun 22, 2022, 09:07 Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:
Hi Ross, just one update to your information they sealed the Opua boat yard this year and a couple of years ago completed a huge expansion to the marina. They also have an extensive area of what are designated work berths, obviously to get work done on your boat, 45 NZ$  per night for the SM. Toilets and showers are first class and there is a big upstairs lounge for liveaboards to use. 
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl
On 22/06/2022 22:39 Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond via groups.io <southernadventurer=yahoo.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:


Hi Scott,
You are definitely spoilt for choices in New Zealand. Spent 15 years living aboard our previous yacht in three different marinas in Auckland- (city of sails) I was also in charge of four Sail Training Craft (STC) that were maintained to a very high standard using numerous boatyards and services. Ovlov did engine rebuilds and eventually replaced all the (STC) Volvo engines in theses boats over the years. My choice would be Orams in downtown Auckland for haulout and projects. This yard does not have any shower facilities so it is not set up for live aboard. It is not the cheapest but it has all the services right there including every Marina shop you ask for. Can’t beat the location as you are in downtown Auckland and have three of New Zealand’s largest chandleries within 400m.  Like the Bay of Islands - Auckland’s Hauraki Gulf has a fabulous cruising ground.

Gulf Harbour is another good location in terms of marine services and haulout facilities. Marina costs are expensive but it has good liveaboard (showers, laundry restaurant etc) facilities

Norsand is also very good and widely used by visiting boats from overseas. I was once there when there were four other Amels hauled out. This is a good choice for live aboard on the hard. Opua has good marine services and fantastic boat club and a couple of very good chandleries, but is limited in supermarkets and you will need to go the Paihia for greater selection. My experience being hauled out there was that the yard is not sealed and once when we hauled out there the hydraulic lift burst a hose and sprayed oil all over our teak decks and mainsail.

My choices in terms of cost and live aboard would be:
1. Norsand
2. Opua


My choices in terms of location and availability of services:
1. Orams, Auckland
2. Gulf Harbour, Auckland
3. Opua

There are many other options. You need to way up what are all your needs. You will love your time in New Zealand for many reasons. Sailing, maintenance and scenery. Make sure you get the South Island.

Ross snd Donna
SV INTREPID KIWI
SM2K #356
Currently cruising Montenegro



Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad

On Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 11:34 AM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:

Hi all, I am a local being based an 8 hour sail North of Opua. For convenience I get most of my work done there and there are good tradesmen there. However there is more competition in Whangarei and surprisingly I have had good work done at a good price in central Auckland near the big Westhaven Marina. Ovlov marine beat the competition by some thousands when I replaced the motor. Again, there is competition there.
Like wise I have high regard for the Bridge Marina and hardstand in Tauranga. Bruce Goodchap the manager of the hardstand is the nicest and most honest guy you could find anywhere. Very helpful too. So guys, you have choices.
Regards
Danny 
SM 299 Ocean Pearl
On 22/06/2022 18:55 Scott SV Tengah <scott.nguyen@...> wrote:


Ah ok so my understanding was that Whangarei was cheaper and had more/better contractors compared to Opua.

Is that not the case?

We plan to leave the boat for a few months and travel by RV so we don't care that much where the boat is.

On Tue, Jun 21, 2022, 19:40 Bruno COTTE <cotte.bruno@...> wrote:
For me the best and cheapest place for all these jobs is OPUA 
Nice marina and great facilities and experienced people 


Envoyé de mon iPhone

Le 22 juin 2022 à 08:31, heinz@... a écrit :

I like Riverside Drive Marina Wangarei. Very nice and friendly Marina.  No Problem with your electricity like other marinas where you are not allowed to use the electricity before you not have a certificate elektrishen that contols your yacht. Nice town and a cool barbecue area in the Marina. 
Heinz sy Quetzal. 292

Am 22.06.2022 12:43 schrieb Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...>:
Hi all,

We're headed to New Zealand this Austral Summer and have a load of projects to get done. I know some of you are from NZ and many of you have been there, so I'm hoping to get some recommendations for the following projects:

1) Strip hull to gelcoat and repaint. It seems that in NZ, soda blasting is less common than sand blasting. I'd also like to get the cast iron ballast stripped and recoated. We also want to raise the waterline.

2) Building a hard top for our A54
After this thread, I'm seriously contemplating having a hard top added. The current favored design is something similar to Soleil Bleu
https://amelyachtowners.groups.io/g/main/topic/hardtop_for_amel_54/75406304?p=Created%2C%2C%2C20%2C1%2C0%2C0&jump=1

3) Replace motor mounts. Two bolts have broken on our motor mounts so the motor will need to be lifted and the remaining studs drilled out.

4) Acrylic window replacement

5) Solar electrical. We want to add more rigid solar on top of the new hard top. 

Currently, we have an appointment for haul out at Norsand boatyard and they're mostly an "open boatyard" except for boatbuilding and painting. For projects requiring those tradesmen, we will need to use Norsand. If Norsand is not a good choice, I'm happy to switch boatyards.

Thanks in advance!
--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah, currently Tahiti, preparing for passage to Fiji
http://www.svtengah.com


--
Sv Quetzal, Supermaramu 2000, 292, cheers Heinz




--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


--
Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond
SV Intrepid Kiwi
SM2K #356
Currently in Turkey


--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: Whangerei, New Zealand recommendations?

Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond
 

Thanks Danny, it has been a few years since I was last in Opua. Pleased to hear they upgraded the haulout area. I knew it was in the plan. Love those meals and social evenings at the yacht club. 

Regards

On Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 9:08 PM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:

Hi Ross, just one update to your information they sealed the Opua boat yard this year and a couple of years ago completed a huge expansion to the marina. They also have an extensive area of what are designated work berths, obviously to get work done on your boat, 45 NZ$  per night for the SM. Toilets and showers are first class and there is a big upstairs lounge for liveaboards to use. 
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl
On 22/06/2022 22:39 Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond via groups.io <southernadventurer@...> wrote:


Hi Scott,
You are definitely spoilt for choices in New Zealand. Spent 15 years living aboard our previous yacht in three different marinas in Auckland- (city of sails) I was also in charge of four Sail Training Craft (STC) that were maintained to a very high standard using numerous boatyards and services. Ovlov did engine rebuilds and eventually replaced all the (STC) Volvo engines in theses boats over the years. My choice would be Orams in downtown Auckland for haulout and projects. This yard does not have any shower facilities so it is not set up for live aboard. It is not the cheapest but it has all the services right there including every Marina shop you ask for. Can’t beat the location as you are in downtown Auckland and have three of New Zealand’s largest chandleries within 400m.  Like the Bay of Islands - Auckland’s Hauraki Gulf has a fabulous cruising ground.

Gulf Harbour is another good location in terms of marine services and haulout facilities. Marina costs are expensive but it has good liveaboard (showers, laundry restaurant etc) facilities

Norsand is also very good and widely used by visiting boats from overseas. I was once there when there were four other Amels hauled out. This is a good choice for live aboard on the hard. Opua has good marine services and fantastic boat club and a couple of very good chandleries, but is limited in supermarkets and you will need to go the Paihia for greater selection. My experience being hauled out there was that the yard is not sealed and once when we hauled out there the hydraulic lift burst a hose and sprayed oil all over our teak decks and mainsail.

My choices in terms of cost and live aboard would be:
1. Norsand
2. Opua


My choices in terms of location and availability of services:
1. Orams, Auckland
2. Gulf Harbour, Auckland
3. Opua

There are many other options. You need to way up what are all your needs. You will love your time in New Zealand for many reasons. Sailing, maintenance and scenery. Make sure you get the South Island.

Ross snd Donna
SV INTREPID KIWI
SM2K #356
Currently cruising Montenegro



Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad

On Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 11:34 AM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:

Hi all, I am a local being based an 8 hour sail North of Opua. For convenience I get most of my work done there and there are good tradesmen there. However there is more competition in Whangarei and surprisingly I have had good work done at a good price in central Auckland near the big Westhaven Marina. Ovlov marine beat the competition by some thousands when I replaced the motor. Again, there is competition there.
Like wise I have high regard for the Bridge Marina and hardstand in Tauranga. Bruce Goodchap the manager of the hardstand is the nicest and most honest guy you could find anywhere. Very helpful too. So guys, you have choices.
Regards
Danny 
SM 299 Ocean Pearl
On 22/06/2022 18:55 Scott SV Tengah <scott.nguyen@...> wrote:


Ah ok so my understanding was that Whangarei was cheaper and had more/better contractors compared to Opua.

Is that not the case?

We plan to leave the boat for a few months and travel by RV so we don't care that much where the boat is.

On Tue, Jun 21, 2022, 19:40 Bruno COTTE <cotte.bruno@...> wrote:
For me the best and cheapest place for all these jobs is OPUA 
Nice marina and great facilities and experienced people 


Envoyé de mon iPhone

Le 22 juin 2022 à 08:31, heinz@... a écrit :

I like Riverside Drive Marina Wangarei. Very nice and friendly Marina.  No Problem with your electricity like other marinas where you are not allowed to use the electricity before you not have a certificate elektrishen that contols your yacht. Nice town and a cool barbecue area in the Marina. 
Heinz sy Quetzal. 292

Am 22.06.2022 12:43 schrieb Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...>:
Hi all,

We're headed to New Zealand this Austral Summer and have a load of projects to get done. I know some of you are from NZ and many of you have been there, so I'm hoping to get some recommendations for the following projects:

1) Strip hull to gelcoat and repaint. It seems that in NZ, soda blasting is less common than sand blasting. I'd also like to get the cast iron ballast stripped and recoated. We also want to raise the waterline.

2) Building a hard top for our A54
After this thread, I'm seriously contemplating having a hard top added. The current favored design is something similar to Soleil Bleu
https://amelyachtowners.groups.io/g/main/topic/hardtop_for_amel_54/75406304?p=Created%2C%2C%2C20%2C1%2C0%2C0&jump=1

3) Replace motor mounts. Two bolts have broken on our motor mounts so the motor will need to be lifted and the remaining studs drilled out.

4) Acrylic window replacement

5) Solar electrical. We want to add more rigid solar on top of the new hard top. 

Currently, we have an appointment for haul out at Norsand boatyard and they're mostly an "open boatyard" except for boatbuilding and painting. For projects requiring those tradesmen, we will need to use Norsand. If Norsand is not a good choice, I'm happy to switch boatyards.

Thanks in advance!
--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah, currently Tahiti, preparing for passage to Fiji
http://www.svtengah.com


--
Sv Quetzal, Supermaramu 2000, 292, cheers Heinz




--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


--
Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond
SV Intrepid Kiwi
SM2K #356
Currently in Turkey

--
Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond
SV Intrepid Kiwi
SM2K #356
Currently in Turkey

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